Re: [Biofuel] Starting at Square One
I have a 1991 Suburban with a 6.2 liter diesel.The Suburban is large,luxurious and has all possible options.I only have around $4,000.00invested in it.Why not look for something like this? Primarily because I don't want to drive a large vehicle. The 300TD is about as big a vehicle as I would really want to drive on a regular basis. Also, like Mr. Weaver said as well, they are hard to find, especially apparently in my area. Either they just aren't common enough, or the people who have them don't want to give them up. However. Instead of going through all that work, at least at the moment, I'll probably just bite my bullets, get the cheaper sedan automatic that I found, and drive it until I can either find something better or have less of a tight budget of time and money to build my true beauty. Having said this, here is what I'm looking at: 1975 (According to the owner, I'll be checking on it when I go out this afternoon) diesel sedan, automatic, I5. According to the seller, all it needs is a master cylinder. Checked local auto parts places, found it will cost me $45-$70 to get a rebuilt one, which seems pretty decent to me. Asking price is $450, but I have talked to him before and figured from his references he'd be willing to go down another hundred. I will be checking it to see if it cranks, sounds reasonably smooth and in good shape, and just in general overall condition. Take a couple pictures, ask a bunch of questions, and then come back to you guys to see what you all think. If it's good, I'll go back Monday, work out final prices, and own myself a diesel Mercedes. If it's bad, well there are several other options for if it's bad. Peace. -Kurt ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Starting at Square One
I just sold mine on eBay but the buyer is a zero feedback deadbeat bidder. Before I re-list it I'll offer it to anyone on the list for the high bid of $3700.00 and will even deliver it within five hours drivetime of Mountain Home, AR. The retail bluebook is over $5000.00 see eBay item 4583475727 Contact me off-list if interested Ed Normandy - Original Message - From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Starting at Square One Those things are hard to find... Ed Normandy wrote: I have a 1991 Suburban with a 6.2 liter diesel. The Suburban is large, luxurious and has all possible options. I only have around $4,000.00 invested in it. Why not look for something like this? Ed Normandy ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] A new website
On Wed, Oct 26, 2005 at 06:37:47PM -0700, Jeromie Reeves wrote: snip Indeed. You can already switch to safer and open replacements of web browser and mail reader as well as office suite (especially with just-released OpenOffice 2.0). Isn't it great ? There's a choice finally for average user. This choice exists on Windows to. That's exactly what I meant :) You can either use Windows or FreeBSD, or something else and still benefit from the same software. The core windows OS can be very stable (just needs configured correctly, not hard just takes more then a average Joe). I personally use OO 2.0, Firefox, and Thunderbird (as does my wife) over IE except in those very rare cases where a site is IE only. Avast is hands down the best Windows based AV there is and it is free (for home use) too. No need to. Just wait for unix desktop environments to become mature enough to be widely usable. Define mature enough? It can be said it's mature when you have consistent desktop environment that handles all subsystems for various components of operating system and hardware running it. So far each desktop (mainly KDE and Gnome) differ too much in basic areas to write a single piece of code that fits in both of them. Also, they have different approach to hardware interaction (scanners poorly supported, for instance), and they're way too slow on older boxes (not all machines are modern Intel P4). I think its more the add on software that needs to mature more then the OS and GUI environment. Agreed. One of the issues I find with OSS is there are to many options. Yes, it's great advance and obstacle at once. Since there is not this one app for all monolithic force in OSS, how do you get people to try something new, even if it would work very well for them? The Linux Live CD's help alot. -- cheers, Rafal Szczesniak **mir[at]diament.iit.pwr.wroc.pl Samba Team member mi***[at]samba.org +-+ *BSD, GNU/Linux and Samba http://www.samba.org +-+ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] A new website
On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 04:42:43PM +1000, Doug Foskey wrote: Rafal, congratulations on being part of the Samba team! Thank you very much :) I am constantly amazed how many Biodiesel list members are involved with Open Source software. I think it is mostly because biodiesel homebrewing and open source have (among many others) one thing in common - it attracts people with wide horizons, curious of something new and interesting. A comment to others on Linux: there is now a move by the major Linux developers to standardise the way that Linux is seen by programs, so the old issues of differing packages for different flavours of Linux will then be a thing of the past. The common Linux desktop is ever closer. Yes, many initiatives has been founded in the last 1-2 years focused on forging standards and base recommendations. -- cheers, Rafal Szczesniak **mir[at]diament.iit.pwr.wroc.pl Samba Team member mi***[at]samba.org +-+ *BSD, GNU/Linux and Samba http://www.samba.org +-+ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] oil seed expellers help please
I live out in NE Oregon, What are you after exactly? There are a number of equipment supliers out here. Jeromie Kirk McLoren wrote: I was asked where one could buy the hardware for a couple of hundred acres of oil crop in Northeastern Oregon. Any help is appreciated Kirk http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFqODRtdXQ4BF9TAzMyOTc1MDIEX3MDOTY2ODgxNjkEcG9zAzEEc2VjA21haWwtZm9vdGVyBHNsawNmYw--/SIG=110oav78o/**http%3a//farechase.yahoo.com/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Also starting out
Hi, all: I'm really excited to be participating on the biofuels mailing list. I recently learned about biodiesel from a friend and my interest in sustainable technologies was rekindled. Currently, nobody in my circle owns or operates a diesel vehicle. I have begun my search for a suitable one; like many of the list members I am seeking a vehicle that has a reputation for extreme durability and might even be useful in an off-road circumstance. I've narrowed it down to the Toyota Land Cruiser, 1975-1990, with a 3B diesel in it, though I'm open to other suggestions. I live in Canada, so whatever it is should be covered and should be able to handle cold weather and have towing capacity. I have also been exploring fully self-sufficient means of producing biodiesel; this would require making the biodiesel using anhydrous ethanol and potash (KOH). I realise it's not without its challenges, but I know that people have inquired and we know it is possible, so I'm looking at distilling ethanol for this purpose. I would welcome any advice on doing this properly. What I understand so far is that the ethanol must be distilled to 95% purity and then dehydrated by pouring it through clean pure lime (I presume the lime is hydrated and can then be dehydrated by heating it). Also, getting the reaction to complete is a challenge -- does heating the mixture help? In the meantime, of course, I'll use the ethanol to fuel my vehicle, a 2002 Chevrolet Venture. To my knowledge, this vehicle is not E85 ready, and I intend to run it on pure ethanol, so I'll likely need a Flexfuel module. I welcome any feedback from members who have used one of these. And, of course, advice on building a fuel still is very welcome, too. I'm trying to decide what the best still design is -- there are lots, and being new at it I can't really assess their comparitive merits. Personal anecdotes and opinions would be most appreciated. All in all, I expect to be here for the long haul, and look forward to learning from the experienced and teaching the new! Cheers, -Stephen- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Methanol substitution
Propane becomes liquid under pressure. Mehtane would be bubbled through the solution. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JJJN Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:00 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol substitution How would you react the solution with the gas? Teoman Naskali wrote: Just a thoght bu would it be possible to use methane or propane or buthane instead of methanol? One would have to have some methanol for the methroxide but still... that would save a lot of money. Has anynone experimented? Any good reason why I shouldn't? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.o rg Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.or g Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Methanol substitution
I knew that somebody would have thought of it if it were possible. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of michael skinner Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 2:24 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol substitution The reaction works by replacing one alcohol with another in Fats you have glycerol which has 3 alcohol groups which are attached to 3 fatty acids when you react an alcohol with a acid you get an ester it is call a transesterification because you substitute one alcohol for another since the alkanes you mentioned do not have an alcohol group you could not use them doing the transesterification reaction. if you could catalytically oxidize to form a alcohol ... (oxidize alkane think explosion or fire) them maybe. Original Message Follows From: Teoman Naskali [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol substitution Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 01:15:35 +0300 Just a thoght bu would it be possible to use methane or propane or buthane instead of methanol? One would have to have some methanol for the methroxide but still... that would save a lot of money. Has anynone experimented? Any good reason why I shouldn't? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.or g Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.or g Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] lye supply
I'd be interested also. Please provide info on payment. Thanks, Gary - Original Message - From: Evergreen Solutions To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 12:53 PM Subject: [Biofuel] lye supply Hi all, I cleared this with Keith, so please be advised it is NOT an ad.Our cooperative here just made arrangements for continuing, large scale NaOH delivery from a large chemical supply company. As an effort to share this with the community, we're prepared to offer it to homebrewers for $2 a pound plus shipping (and shipping is apparently about $6 most of the time). You might be able to find it cheaper locally, and if so I applaud you and please disregard this message. Shipping is the real killer. If you're interested, toss me an email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we'll go from there. I'm not sure yet whether it's flake or pellet, but I'll assume that it's flake since it's low-cost and bulk.If enough people are interested, we'll put up a website or something similar, maybe run it through ebay or something for security.~Thanks!~ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Starting at Square One
Kurt Nolte wrote: Update already: He obviously doesn't really want to sell it. Refused to let me try rolling it out where I could get all the way around it, or to help me out with that. When we popped the hood the litany of parts missing started up: Alternator, Master Cylinder, Glow Plugs (He lied, it's an I4), steering was more than a little funky (Bolts tore loose, but if you move the wheel a bit before you start turning it still works fine), No battery. I asked him if I could pull my car up and at least see if it would still crank, or at least turn over. Well, you can, but if it still runs it's worth more and I'm gonna charge you more for it. I walked away. I told him and his brother(?) thanks, but I was no longer interested in buying an inappropriately advertised car. Holy cow. People amaze me. One gets the feeling he makes a practice of this. Anyway -- you did the right thing. Not worth the headache. -Stephen- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor
I have used mine with a 1/2 drill, clear water pump and the winch motor that I have attached a hydraulic pump for oil transfer with no signs of overheating. Harbor freight item # 43060 ovga router speed control $24.99 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Dunn Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 6:28 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor On 10/26/05, Derick Giorchino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a router speed controller in harbor freight when it on sale that is most of the time it is inexpensive and works quite well It doesn't look like Harbor Freight is offer that item right now. I see that some other sites are offering something called a router speed controller. No issue with the motor overheating using the speed controller? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor
Hmm, I couldn't find that item earlier. I suppose that a router speed control is a different animal than a router speed controller. What a difference two letters make! Depending how much trouble I have making and balancing an impeller that performs the proper mixing, I may just track one of these down. Take care, On 10/28/05, Derick Giorchino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have used mine with a 1/2 drill, clear water pump and the winch motor that I have attached a hydraulic pump for oil transfer with no signs of overheating. Harbor freight item # 43060 ovga router speed control $24.99 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Dunn Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 6:28 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor On 10/26/05, Derick Giorchino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a router speed controller in harbor freight when it on sale that is most of the time it is inexpensive and works quite well It doesn't look like Harbor Freight is offer that item right now. I see that some other sites are offering something called a router speed controller. No issue with the motor overheating using the speed controller? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] diesennn engine to a gasolians car,
sorrry i dledeted the messagee beafore i realized i wanted to post sorry,,, for the personn wanting toput a dieslel enginee in a galsoline auto,, u must clean the gasoline tank to a farethee well and have it sealedd inside with diesel ressistant sealant the gas gas tank are zinc plated galvanized,, the ideisel and tiny amaounts of water make zinc saltsss whichh is carrieadn into the fuel injectaion system and will destraoyu it,buck _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar ö get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Also starting out
Stephen Bosch wrote: I have also been exploring fully self-sufficient means of producing biodiesel; this would require making the biodiesel using anhydrous ethanol and potash (KOH). I realise it's not without its challenges, but I know that people have inquired and we know it is possible, so I'm looking at distilling ethanol for this purpose. It's illegal for individuals to distill ethanol in Canada. Sorry to burst your bubble, but I've looked into this and if I could have obtained a permit, I would have done so already. Ethanol would be a wonderful fuel for a little hot rod truck like mine! robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Also starting out
On Oct 28, 2005, at 9:40 PM, robert luis rabello wrote: It's illegal for individuals to distill ethanol in Canada. Sorry to burst your bubble, but I've looked into this and if I could have obtained a permit, I would have done so already. Ethanol would be a wonderful fuel for a little hot rod truck like mine! Are Canadians typically a very law-abiding people? Just curious. Many US citizens would not think twice about skipping the permit, if they had some reason to believe they wouldn't get caught. -K ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] diesennn engine to a gasolians car,
Hi Buck, Out of curiosity, where are you from? What are your experiences with automobiles? Take care, Ken On 10/29/05, Buck Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sorrry i dledeted the messagee beafore i realized i wanted to post sorry,,, for the personn wanting toput a dieslel enginee in a galsoline auto,, u must clean the gasoline tank to a farethee well and have it sealedd inside with diesel ressistant sealant the gas gas tank are zinc plated galvanized,, the ideisel and tiny amaounts of water make zinc saltsss whichh is carrieadn into the fuel injectaion system and will destraoyu it,buck _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Also starting out
On 10/29/05, Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many US citizens would not think twice about skipping the permit, if they had some reason to believe they wouldn't get caught. I have to say that here as of late, you are correct about that...unfortunately. Overall, it does us no benefit, though. Firstly, we promote ourselves to be THE example and if we mean it, we should - no reason to hide our greatness. Second, if getting the proper permits to be upstanding citizens of the Earth is that much trouble, we should stand up for the right things. Take care, Ken ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Also starting out
well. Maybe not for BD, but for the gasoline cars we have around here in any case. And I plan on permitting myself properly with all the appropriate authorities; I'm on pretty good terms with local law enforcement here, I'd rather not jeopardize that. ;) -KurtOn 10/29/05, Ken Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/29/05, Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many US citizens would not think twice about skipping the permit, if they had some reason to believe they wouldn'tget caught. I have to say that here as of late, you are correct aboutthat...unfortunately.Overall, it does us no benefit, though.Firstly, we promote ourselves to be THE example and if we mean it, weshould - no reason to hide our greatness.Second, if getting the proper permits to be upstanding citizens of the Earth is that muchtrouble, we should stand up for the right things.Take care,Ken___Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] diesennn engine to a gasolians car,
butt starteddd converswions beforeee i coulold legally drivee, chevy into ford,,, ford flathead into willlys then oldss to ford, etc etc, then diesel,, 262 alilisss chalmers(buda) into ford pu,,, detraoit diesel to ford,chevy , ihc, dodge. miliatray carerr then ga and steam turbialne millwriahgt then fouar years ago,, arrest andd straoke,, cardailc arrestt, and straoke, and i do the compaurter and watach u guys,,, yeeehaaa,, buck, From: Ken Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] diesennn engine to a gasolians car, Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 01:02:54 -0400 Hi Buck, Out of curiosity, where are you from? What are your experiences with automobiles? Take care, Ken On 10/29/05, Buck Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sorrry i dledeted the messagee beafore i realized i wanted to post sorry,,, for the personn wanting toput a dieslel enginee in a galsoline auto,, u must clean the gasoline tank to a farethee well and have it sealedd inside with diesel ressistant sealant the gas gas tank are zinc plated galvanized,, the ideisel and tiny amaounts of water make zinc saltsss whichh is carrieadn into the fuel injectaion system and will destraoyu it,buck _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar ö get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _ Donât just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Also starting out
robert luis rabello wrote: It's illegal for individuals to distill ethanol in Canada. Sorry to burst your bubble, but I've looked into this and if I could have obtained a permit, I would have done so already. Ethanol would be a wonderful fuel for a little hot rod truck like mine! I've been looking for evidence of such regulations for some time now and haven't found any. To the best of my knowledge that's a provincial jurisdiction -- in Alberta there's not a word about distillation on the Alberta Gaming and Liquor Commission website. For my part, this is too important to fold the deck because of a stupid rule. If it means a court challenge, so be it. Can you point me to the regulation? -Stephen- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] diesennn engine to a gasolians car,
Hey Buck, I'm very sorry to hear about your stroke. It sounds like you must have been pretty active. Don't give up though. That's a lot of experience that you have behind you. I must say that frankly, I don't know you but I'm proud of your perseverance still the same. How do you hold up physically? I'm 35. not that it matters. I guess that it is nice to be able to relate, though. My older brother had a Willys (1947, I LOVED that Jeep) that our older cousin had put a 283 Chevy small block into. That thing wouldn't do more the 65mph but, it would climb a tree. Man, it was fun. We used to go everwhere in that thing. Sometimes, I had to lean out and help out those old vacuum assist wipers. No heat, it sucked but, we just loved it. Freedom will definitely have an affect on you. What part of California are you in? I have to admint that I really didn't have ANY desire to go to California until I went. I want to go back now...but, I can't tell anyone because I made such a big stink for so long. Take care, Ken ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Also starting out
Hi, Robert: robert luis rabello wrote: It's illegal for individuals to distill ethanol in Canada. Sorry to burst your bubble, but I've looked into this and if I could have obtained a permit, I would have done so already. Ethanol would be a wonderful fuel for a little hot rod truck like mine! Distillation of ethanol is regulated (federally) by the Excise Act, 2001. Here are the relevant sections: Article 14 states: 14. (1) Subject to the regulations, on application, the Minister may issue to a person (a) a spirits licence, authorizing the person to produce or package spirits; (b) a wine licence, authorizing the person to produce or package wine; (c) a user's licence, authorizing the person to use bulk alcohol or non-duty-paid packaged alcohol; (d) a tobacco licence, authorizing the person to manufacture tobacco products; or (e) a tobacco dealer's licence, authorizing the person to carry on the activity of a tobacco dealer. Articles 17 and 18 elaborate: 17. Subject to the regulations, on application, the Minister may issue an alcohol registration to a person authorizing the person to store or transport bulk alcohol or specially denatured alcohol. SDA registration 18. (1) Subject to the regulations, on application, the Minister may issue a specially denatured alcohol registration to a person authorizing the person to possess and use specially denatured alcohol. Restrictions on grades of SDA (2) The Minister may impose restrictions on the use of particular grades of specially denatured alcohol. Article 61: Possession of a still 61. No person shall possess a still or other equipment suitable for the production of spirits with the intent of producing spirits unless the person (a) is a spirits licensee; or (b) has a pending application for a spirits licence. The excise regulations regulate ethanol fuels and specially denatured alcohols (usually used for fuel), but there's no prohibition. There's no mention of the operation of a still in the legislation itself; I imagine that's handled in the regulations (I'm going to get a copy of them). I would encourage you to look into applying for an excise permit. Others have done it. There's nothing illegal about it if you follow the rules. -Stephen- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] diesennn engine to a gasolians car,
Just like Ken, I don't know you either Buck. However reading your message has put a big smile on my face with admiration for your life full of experience and your determination to push on regardless. Thanks for putting the spark back in my day. More power to you mate - greets from down under the equator. :-) Regz, Gary Buck Williams wrote: oriaginally farom mo, tenn buttt noww in claifoornia,,, im now almsot 60 butt starteddd converswions beforeee i coulold legally drivee, chevy into ford,,, ford flathead into willlys then oldss to ford, etc etc, then diesel,, 262 alilisss chalmers(buda) into ford pu,,, detraoit diesel to ford,chevy , ihc, dodge. miliatray carerr then ga and steam turbialne millwriahgt then fouar years ago,, arrest andd straoke,, cardailc arrestt, and straoke, and i do the compaurter and watach u guys,,, yeeehaaa,, buck, From: Ken Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] diesennn engine to a gasolians car, Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 01:02:54 -0400 Hi Buck, Out of curiosity, where are you from? What are your experiences with automobiles? Take care, Ken On 10/29/05, Buck Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sorrry i dledeted the messagee beafore i realized i wanted to post sorry,,, for the personn wanting toput a dieslel enginee in a galsoline auto,, u must clean the gasoline tank to a farethee well and have it sealedd inside with diesel ressistant sealant the gas gas tank are zinc plated galvanized,, the ideisel and tiny amaounts of water make zinc saltsss whichh is carrieadn into the fuel injectaion system and will destraoyu it,buck ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Why and How U.S. Farm Subsidies Must Be Reformed
Why and How U.S. Farm Subsidies Must Be Reformed US Farm Subsidies: Goals, Realities and Prospects Will Allen Ronnie Cummins Organic Consumers Association http://www.organicconsumers.org/clothes/farmsubs070605.cfm When US farm subsidy programs began in the 1930s, the goal was to keep family farmers on the land and provide food and fiber during times of hardship, depression and war. In the late-1940s, soil and water conservation subsidies were added to preserve rural resources. Despite these lofty goals, the Environmental Working Group has shown that only 36% of US farmers currently receive subsidies while farmers in the developing world claim that US subsidies to cotton, rice, corn, sugar and soybean farmers are trade-distorting and unfair. Studies show that US subsidies depressed prices and allowed brokers to dump commodities in foreign countries at prices well below the cost of production for local farmers. Many markets in developing countries are well-stocked with indigenous foods and fiber, but are seriously disrupted by the dumping of cheap subsidized crops from the US, EU and Japan. Since 1995, more than 25,000 bankrupt cotton farmers in India committed suicide, while more than a million West African cotton growers lost their farms. More than a million corn and cotton growers in Mexico have been driven off the land and thousands have been forced to illegally cross the border, looking for work. Since 1990, almost 20,000 small and medium-sized US farmers stopped growing cotton and many filed for bankruptcy. Large farming and brokerage corporations profit handsomely from the $25 billion in annual crop subsidies and more than $20 billion in water subsidies. Most of the subsidies go to farmers who grow corn, rice, cotton, sugar and soybeans. Seven percent of US farmers received more than 75% of farm subsidies and only 2500 farmers received 78% of the cotton subsidies (more than $9 billion) during the period from 1995 to 2003. In 2003, Brazil sued the US and the EU in the World Trade Organization (WTO) over unfair subsidies for cotton and sugar growers and in early March 2005, Brazil won both cases. Following the WTO decisions the US has agreed to change its subsidy programs. But how the subsidy system is changed will bear watching and require pressure to keep it from being business as usual in a different costume. Much of US subsidy policy is justified by agribusiness as being essential to a cheap food policy for consumers and an effective trade policy for farmers. But, claims about cheap food are largely a myth, since enormous costs are concealed from the public. In addition to the market price, costs are added to food and clothing bills by subsidies to farmers and to brokers for marketing or exporting surplus crops. Also added are subsides for irrigation programs. Taxpayers make these additional payments for meat, chicken, cereals, processed food, rice, soybeans, grain, bread, sugar, milk, cotton and cottonseed on April 15. Taxpayers pay for the external costs of farming, including the clean-up of farmland, rivers, lakes and aquifers damaged and destroyed by farm chemical use and runoff. Taxpayers also pay for the escalating Medicaid and Medicare costs associated with high cancer and birth defect rates for farmers, farmworkers and rural residents. Add up the market price, the farm subsidies and the external costs, and America's cheap food becomes very expensive. It is the subsidized farmers who are using most of the chemicals and growing controversial genetically engineered crops. Agribusiness interests argue that toxic chemicals and genetic manipulation are essential if US farmers are to stay competitive in world markets. But, this is also a myth. Pew Institute researchers have shown that since 2000, US farmers lost $300 million per year in grain shipments to the EU due to the EU refusal to buy GMO corn. The State Department believes US farmers could lose an additional $4 billion per year with the recent enactment of EU labeling and identity tracking regulations for all crops. US interests decry these trends as trade distorting and unscientific. Research from the EU and elsewhere, however, has shown that GMO crops have already caused life-threatening allergic reactions, a sharp reduction in beneficial insects and soil organisms, damage to the vital organs of test animals, an increase in the use of weed killers and a 75% reduction in this year's monarch butterfly population. At the same time that America's chemical and genetically engineered export markets are in serious decline, organic markets are rapidly increasing around the world. Tens of thousands of farmers in the US and overseas have converted to organic production. Many are looking for new markets, better prices, and how to farm without pesticides, chemical fertilizers, hormones, antibiotics and GMOs. While the shelf price for organic food is slightly more expensive,
[Biofuel] Green groups call for windfall tax as Shell reports record earnings
http://news.independent.co.uk/business/news/article322871.ece Independent Online Edition Business News Green groups call for windfall tax as Shell reports record earnings By Damian Reece, City Editor Published: 28 October 2005 Royal Dutch Shell is facing calls for a windfall tax on oil companies' profits after announcing a 68 per cent increase in third-quarter earnings to $7.4bn (£4.1bn). A record quarter for oil prices helped Shell deliver results that beat City expectations but prompted the ire of environmental groups and politicians. Shareholders will benefit from Shell's performance to the tune of $15bn, which the company is returning to investors this year in the form of share buy-backs and increased dividends. Jeroen van der Veer, the chief executive, said: Our operational performance is paying off with good results. The US Energy Secretary, Sam Bodman, said oil companies such as Shell and Exxon Mobil - which also announced record profits yesterday - should react to rocketing oil prices by improving their supply.Mr Bodman told the Senate's energy committee: These companies are turning in record profits. They have a responsibility to expand refining capacity. Exxon Mobil said its quarterly profits ballooned by 75 per cent to $10bn. Shell said its record financial results included the costs of the recent US hurricanes in the Gulf of Mexico which were expected to land it with a $350m bill, although most of this is insured. Environmental campaigners used the Shell results to pressure the Government into levying a windfall tax on oil companies, which it said were making money from the deteriorating climate of the planet. Craig Bennett, a campaigner with Friends of the Earth, said: Shell is profiting from climate change, profiting from pollution and damaging the lives of communities around the world. This is simply unacceptable for a company that claims to be responsible. The Government must not sit back and let this happen. It must curb oil company profits, but also demand higher standards from UK companies operating overseas. The stock market shrugged off concerns that the Treasury may impose a one-off tax on Shell and BP. Shell shares rose up to 1.8 per cent during the day, finishing 0.5 per cent higher at 1,702p. Shell's fortunes this year, on the back of soaring oil prices, are in marked contrast to last year when it was embroiled in a reserves reporting scandal that plunged into one of the worst periods in its long history. The scandal cost Sir Philip Watts his job as chairman and the company was ordered to pay fines of $120m in the US and £17m in the UK. The company agreed to pay $90m in damages to US employee shareholders who brought a class action lawsuit against the oil giant. Shell was able to put further distance between itself and last year's scandal yesterday with results showing that it had generated $10.5bn of cash from its operations during the third quarter, an increase of 34 per cent. The company is pumping 3.5 million barrels a day, which it said will increase only marginally next year, dashing hopes of any significant increase in supply in 2006. Earnings per share from the company in the quarter rose 69 per cent to $1.35 compared with a year ago. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Less is More for Nepali Rice - A low input rice system has more than doubled yield in Nepal
See also: Does SRI Work? http://www.i-sis.org.uk/DSRIW.php Top Indian Plant Geneticist Rebuts Nature http://www.i-sis.org.uk/TIRGRSRI.php Fantastic Rice Yields Fact or Fallacy? http://www.i-sis.org.uk/RiceWars.php SRI Homepage/System of Rice Intensifcation - Cornell International Institute for Food, Agriculture and Development (CIIFAD): http://ciifad.cornell.edu/sri/ How to help rice plants grow better and produce more: teach yourself and others -- Association Tefy Saina, Madagascar, and Cornell International Institute for Food, Agriculture and Development (180kb Acrobat file): http://tefysaina.org/manuelSRI-us.pdf Technical Presentation of the System of Rice Intensification, Based on Katayama's Tillering Model, by Fr. Henri de Laulani, who worked with Malagasy farmers for 35 years to develop SRI (208kb Acrobat file) http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/Laulanie.pdf - The Institute of Science in Society Science Society Sustainability http://www.i-sis.org.uk This article can be found on the I-SIS website at http://www.i-sis.org.uk/LIMFNR.php ISIS Press Release 06/10/05 Less is More for Nepali Rice A low input rice system has more than doubled yield in Nepal. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Rhea Gala For the past three years a dozen farmers in Morang District near the Nepali-Indian border 300 miles south of the capital Kathmandu have been testing a new cultivation method for rice. Using only a fraction of the normal amount of local mansuli variety rice seed and far less water than usual, their yield has more than doubled. The method does not need the fields to be flooded, as is traditionally the case, and chemical fertilisers and pesticides are not required. Success arises from the mode of cultivation where the seedlings are transplanted from the nursery beds when they are only two weeks old instead of six; and the field is drained instead of flooded. Seedlings are spaced farther apart and produce many more shoots than when planted conventionally, causing the harvest to more than double. A normal paddy field needs 50 kilogrammes of seed per hectare, yet this method uses less than ten kilogrammes. This is the latest success for this type of low input rice cultivation which is called the System of Rice Intensification (SRI) and has already given marvellous yields in many countries (see Fantastic rice yields: Fact or fallacy?, Top Indian rice geneticist rebuts SRI critics, and Does SRI work? http://www.i-sis.org.uk/isisnews.phpSiS27) Farmers reaped bumper harvests Farmer Dan Bahadur Rajbansi was transplanting his rice seedlings this year using the system of rice intensification as many others delayed while awaiting a late monsoon. Ananta Ram Majhi, another of Morang district's rice farmers, admits he was sceptical. Initially, I thought to myself, if this is such a great idea why didn't my ancestors think of it? But I decided to take the chance and this is my third year using the new method. Majhi, who used to harvest five tonnes per hectare and is now getting at least twice as much, has achieved this yield with only one-third of the seed he used before, and with less water. Local agriculture officer Rajendra Uprety first read about the technique on the Internet and decided to try it. Since 2002, we've achieved double and triple harvests on test plots. It's just amazing. He said. News of the bumper harvests have spread quickly from Morang where about 100 farmers are now using the new method. Uprety, who brings farmers from other districts on inspection visits, laughs, Actually, it has been more difficult convincing the agronomists and officials than the farmers. Scientists remain sceptical International scientists and agriculture research institutes have been hard to convince too. Henri de Laulani, a French Jesuit priest working in Madagascar, devised the new method back in 1983, but it was only after Norman Uphoff of the International Institute for Food, Agriculture and Development at Cornell University in the US started pushing the idea in 1997 that it was taken seriously. Nevertheless SRI has been tried and tested by many thousands of farmers in about 20 countries, from Cuba to China. Tens of thousands of farmers have adopted the method in the few years since researchers introduced it to Cambodia in 2001. And there, as in India, Laos, and Sri Lanka, farmers are reporting that SRI means bigger harvests and better incomes, for fewer seeds and less water. But critics maintain that the scientific evidence for such claims is lacking because most field trial results have not been recorded in detail and published in peer-reviewed journals. When researchers at the International Rice Research Institute (IRRI) and colleagues tested SRI in field trials in China, they found no difference in yield between SRI and conventionally-grown rice. Their study, published in Field Crops Research in March 2004, concluded that: SRI has no major role
[Biofuel] Exxon Mobil Posts New Record for Profit
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1027-06.htm Published on Thursday, October 27, 2005 by the Associated Press Exxon Mobil Posts New Record for Profit by Steve Quinn Exxon Mobil Corp. had a quarter for the record books. The world's largest publicly traded oil company said Thursday high oil and natural-gas prices helped its third-quarter profit surge almost 75 percent to $9.92 billion, the largest quarterly profit for a U.S. company ever, and it was the first to ring up more than $100 billion in quarterly sales. In a file photo Exxon Mobil Corp. Chairman and CEO Lee Raymond laughs during a news conference in Dallas, Wednesday, May 25, 2005. Exxon Mobil Corp., the largest publicly traded oil company in the world, on Thursday, Oct. 27, 2005, said third-quarter profit surged, buoyed by higher crude-oil and natural-gas prices, even as the period's hurricanes hampered production. Revenue grew to $100.72 billion from $76.38 billion in the prior-year period. (AP Photo/Donna McWilliam) Net income ballooned to $9.92 billion, or $1.58 per share, from $5.68 billion, or 88 cents per share, a year ago. Excluding certain items, earnings were $8.3 billion, or $1.32 per share, versus $6.23 billion, or 96 cents per share, in the 2004 quarter. Analysts polled by Thomson Financial, on average, predicted earnings excluding items of $1.38 per share. Revenue grew to $100.72 billion from $76.38 billion in the prior-year period. Howard Silverblatt, equity analyst at Standard Poor's, said both the net income and sales figures are all-time records for publicly traded U.S. companies. The hurricanes slashed Exxon Mobil's U.S. production volumes by 50,000 barrels of oil equivalent per day, down nearly 5 percent year-over-year, costing the company $45 million before taxes. The company said total daily production slipped to 2.45 million barrels of oil equivalent from 2.51 million barrels. Following the hurricanes, Exxon Mobil maximized gasoline production from all of our refineries which were operating in the U.S., and increased imports from overseas affiliates to meet U.S. demand, said Chairman Lee R. Raymond. Earnings from U.S. upstream operations increased by $498 million to $1.67 billion, while U.S. downstream earnings jumped $548 million to $1.11 billion. In the U.S. and abroad, income from the company's chemicals segment declined by $537 million to $472 million, as raw materials costs squeezed margins. The company cautioned that reduced volumes and higher costs will also hurt the fourth quarter. Shares of Irving-based Exxon Mobil rose 56 cents, or 1 percent, to $56.76 in early trading on the New York Stock Exchange. The stock has traded in a 52-week range between $48.25 and $65.96. Copyright © 2005 The Associated Press ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] how to build an anearobic bio-digester
Hey gang, Does anybody know where I can find plans on how to build an anearobic bio-digester?? Many thanks. Arden ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] A new website
Wrong! Try a live CD (I would suggest Mepis, which is downloadable using M$ wonderful system if you wish, from a link given on Mepis.org, ). This will load off the CD drive, run on your computer. It will not affect the harddisc unless you tell it to. If you do try this, I think you will see that the general operation is very similar to that commercial operating system, and there is generally very little problem configuring the system. (There are provisos tho: some hardware eg Winmodems, that are not always detected. Some programs away from the mainstream may require a little gigging to get working: an example could be one I have seen: Qcad, a CAD program available for Linux, which I had to Google an issue with printer configuration to find out how to fix, but this was an extreme case.) Also the help is now very good, and help is available for even the most esoteric problem you find - sometimes better than Commercial programs- occasionally the original software developer will answer a query put on a Help list. So, please try it! I really think it is worth the effort. regards Doug On Friday 28 October 2005 1:08, Jason and Katie wrote: i would be more than happy to use Linux, but i dont have the time to sit down and LEARN it. all the coding options and different ways to configure it, i would definitely spend as much time repairing my mistakes as i would configuring my computer, and quite frankly, if i want to do that, i'd have to take a years vacation. it may even be completely idiot proof, but im just that special kind of idiot that manages to find a way to screw it up. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Organic Food Standards have been greatly lowered in the US
It gets worse... http://www.organicconsumers.org/sos/weaken102705.cfm Congress Rams Through OTA Sneak Attack on Organic Standards Despite Massive Consumer Opposition NEWS RELEASE For immediate releaseOctober 27, 2005 Contact: Ronnie Cummins, 218-226-4164, Organic Consumers Association Congress Votes to Weaken Organic Standards Despite Widespread ConsumerOpposition Changes Were Sought by Large-Scale Food Processors to Cut Costs of Meeting Current Law. WASHINGTON Congress voted yesterday to weaken the nation's organic food standards in response to pressure from large-scale food manufacturers. The Organic Trade Association (OTA) and food processors have been pressing Congress to change the Organic Foods Production Act (OFPA) to allow for the use of numerous synthetic substances in products labeled "organic" and to weaken organic dairy standards. A recent court decision ruled that the OFPA does not allow synthetic (non-natural) ingredients to be used in foods labeled "organic" and that the act must ensure a strong standard under which dairy cows are converted to organic milk production. After rejecting efforts by members of the public interest and environmental community to reach an agreement on these issues, major food processors in the organic food industry, including Smucker's, Dean Foods, and Kraft, pushed Congress to "quietly" change the law to allow the use of such synthetic ingredients and potentially weaken the organic dairy standards. "Congress voted last night to weaken the national organic standards that consumers count on to preserve the integrity of the organic label," said Ronnie Cummins, National Director of the Organic Consumers Association.. "The process was profoundly undemocratic and the end result is a serious setback for the multi billion dollar alternative food and farming system that the organic community has so painstakingly built up over the past 35 years. The rider will take away the traditional role of the organic community and the National Organic Standards Board in monitoring and controling organic standards. Industry's stealth attack has unnecessarily damaged the standards that helped organic foods become the fastest growing sector in the food industry." As passed, the amendment sponsored by the Organic Trade Association allows: á Numerous synthetic food additives and processing aids, including over 500 food contact substances, to be used in organic foods without public review. á Young dairy cows to continue to be treated with antibiotics and fed genetically engineered feed prior to being converted to organic production. á Loopholes under which non-organic ingredients could be substituted for organic ingredients without any notification of the public based on "emergency decrees." The amendment was vigorously opposed by consumer, retail and growers groups, as well as public health and environmental groups, including National Cooperative Grocers Association, National Organic Coalition and Rural Advancement Foundation International USA, Beyond Pesticides, National Campaign for Sustainable Agriculture, Organic Consumers Association, and Consumers Union. Consumers sent more than 300,000 letters to Congress imploring members to stand up against industry's efforts to weaken the organic standards. In October 2002, just days after the rules governing organic under NOP were implemented, Maine blueberry farmer Arthur Harvey filed suit against USDA claiming that the USDA regulations governing foods labeled "organic" contravened several principles of the OFPA. Having initially lost on all counts, Harvey prevailed in January 2005 when the Court of Appeals ruled in his favor on the three counts finding: 1. Synthetic substances are not permitted in processing of items labeled as "organic," and only allowed in the "made with organic" labeling category.2. Provisions allowing up to 20-percent non-organic feed in the first nine months of a dairy herd's one-year conversion to organic production are not permitted.3. All exemptions for the use of non-organic products "not commercially available in organic form" must be reviewed by National Organic Standards Board, and certifiers must review the operator's attempt to source organic. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Starting at Square One
Kurt, Where are you located? I have a 240 D and a 300 D for sale. Contact me off net. Jerry On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:43:35 -0400 Kurt Nolte [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 10/28/05, Kurt Nolte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having said this, here is what I'm looking at: interested in buying an inappropriately advertised car. Peace -Kurt ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] glop
Ran my processor for the first time today and made about 150 liters of puer glop soap I think that is what it is any way. What should I do with this mess. John ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Also starting out
Ken Provost wrote: Are Canadians typically a very law-abiding people? Just curious. Many US citizens would not think twice about skipping the permit, if they had some reason to believe they wouldn't get caught. I'm not Canadian, but it seems to me that people are no more law abiding here than they are in the US. However, the penalties for illegal distillation up here include seizure of property--something that happens to the grow op people all the time. I wouldn't want to risk losing my house for the sake of a little fuel. robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Also starting out
Stephen Bosch wrote: I've been looking for evidence of such regulations for some time now and haven't found any. Here's how it works. The Excise Act outlines very stiff penalties for distillation of spirits without a license and registration for the still. The license and registration forms come from the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency, they are intended for registered businesses, and you'll find that they do not even contemplate provision for individuals to own a distillation apparatus. Now, if you had a secure premises and could post the ridiculous bond (which is something like $10 000), set up a business to distill ethanol and pay the appropriate taxes, you could probably distill ethanol in Canada. This approach, however, moves beyond the garage tinkering efforts of someone who wants to make a few dozen liters of fuel for personal use. To the best of my knowledge that's a provincial jurisdiction -- in Alberta there's not a word about distillation on the Alberta Gaming and Liquor Commission website. That's because there's no provision for individuals to do so. For my part, this is too important to fold the deck because of a stupid rule. If it means a court challenge, so be it. If you've got the money, have fun! I'm a guest in this country. I don't want to make a stink. robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Also starting out
Stephen Bosch wrote: Hi, Robert: Distillation of ethanol is regulated (federally) by the Excise Act, 2001. Yes! That's the one. Article 61: Possession of a still 61. No person shall possess a still or other equipment suitable for the production of spirits with the intent of producing spirits unless the person (a) is a spirits licensee; or (b) has a pending application for a spirits licence. I have both forms. I've contacted the local customs and revenue agency on several occasions, trying to clarify that I'm an individual looking to obtain the required permits. I've spoken to people who were too busy to talk to me. I've left several messages, and nobody returns my phone calls. The excise regulations regulate ethanol fuels and specially denatured alcohols (usually used for fuel), but there's no prohibition. There's no mention of the operation of a still in the legislation itself; I imagine that's handled in the regulations (I'm going to get a copy of them). That would be a good thing. I would encourage you to look into applying for an excise permit. Others have done it. There's nothing illegal about it if you follow the rules. I HAVE looked into this. Would you like me to send you the forms? robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] glop
I just sorted out the soap it seams I was adding the methodoxide to fast to the top of the reactor andI thinkit wasn't mixing properly. I turned on the pump and started mixing it again without method oxide looks to be mixing ok now. I have about5 liters of methox left should I remix it. Another problem I have noticed is thePOR 15 I used is starting to bubble on theinside ofthe reactor. Looks like I am going to have to repaint it. HaveIused the wrong type. Any help would be very much appreciated.. john ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] legality of distilling in Canada
robert luis rabello wrote: Article 61: Possession of a still 61. No person shall possess a still or other equipment suitable for the production of spirits with the intent of producing spirits unless the person (a) is a spirits licensee; or (b) has a pending application for a spirits licence. I have both forms. I've contacted the local customs and revenue agency on several occasions, trying to clarify that I'm an individual looking to obtain the required permits. I've spoken to people who were too busy to talk to me. I've left several messages, and nobody returns my phone calls. This is less a problem of legislation and more a problem of bureaucracy. The Act is pretty clear -- the relevant sections refer to persons and provide specifically for licencing. People giving you blank stares when you ask them questions to which they lack the answers (probably because they don't know what you are talking about) is not the same is it not being allowed (or even, bureaucracy aside, difficult to arrange). Dealing with government is an art :) Enough individuals in Canada have operated fuel stills (legally). Note also that the act allows someone with an application pending to possess a still. The excise regulations regulate ethanol fuels and specially denatured alcohols (usually used for fuel), but there's no prohibition. There's no mention of the operation of a still in the legislation itself; I imagine that's handled in the regulations (I'm going to get a copy of them). That would be a good thing. You can get all this stuff from the Federal Queen's Printer -- you can usually find the number in the blue pages. I would encourage you to look into applying for an excise permit. Others have done it. There's nothing illegal about it if you follow the rules. I HAVE looked into this. Would you like me to send you the forms? Sure -- do you have them in PDF format? -Stephen- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Methanol substitution
Howdy Teoman, bubbling thru the solution is all that it would do. It doesn't react under these conditions. Teoman Naskali wrote: Propane becomes liquid under pressure. Mehtane would be bubbled through the solution. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JJJN Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:00 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol substitution How would you react the solution with the gas? Teoman Naskali wrote: Just a thoght bu would it be possible to use methane or propane or buthane instead of methanol? One would have to have some methanol for the methroxide but still... that would save a lot of money. Has anynone experimented? Any good reason why I shouldn't? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.o rg Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.or g Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- Bob Allen http://ozarker.org/bob Science is what we have learned about how to keep from fooling ourselves - Richard Feynman ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Methanol substitution
Then how is NitoMethane made? Greg H. - Original Message - From: bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 10:35 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol substitution Howdy Teoman, bubbling thru the solution is all that it would do. It doesn't react under these conditions. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] diesennn engine to a gasolians car,
On 10/29/05, Gary Moro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just like Ken, I don't know you either Buck. However reading your message has put a big smile on my face with admiration for your life full of experience and your determination to push on regardless. Thanks for putting the spark back in my day. More power to you mate - greets from down under the equator. :-) Regz, Gary I had intended for the discussion to be private. I'm sorry Buck. On the upside though, at least you were an inspiration to more than just myself. Take care, ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] diesennn engine to a gasolians car,ZXX
that alriaahgt,, thank yuour very much,,, i odnt mind, From: Ken Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] diesennn engine to a gasolians car, Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:14:36 -0400 On 10/29/05, Gary Moro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just like Ken, I don't know you either Buck. However reading your message has put a big smile on my face with admiration for your life full of experience and your determination to push on regardless. Thanks for putting the spark back in my day. More power to you mate - greets from down under the equator. :-) Regz, Gary I had intended for the discussion to be private. I'm sorry Buck. On the upside though, at least you were an inspiration to more than just myself. Take care, ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] BD solidification
The weather is starting to get colder here, and my test batch just solidified. Its only 5 degrees celcius outside, Is this normal? I was using cooking oil from a university cantine, that is normally solid at these temperatures. Should I start tryin the 2 stage methods. Teoman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Buck Williams Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 9:28 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] diesennn engine to a gasolians car,ZXX that alriaahgt,, thank yuour very much,,, i odnt mind, From: Ken Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] diesennn engine to a gasolians car, Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:14:36 -0400 On 10/29/05, Gary Moro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just like Ken, I don't know you either Buck. However reading your message has put a big smile on my face with admiration for your life full of experience and your determination to push on regardless. Thanks for putting the spark back in my day. More power to you mate - greets from down under the equator. :-) Regz, Gary I had intended for the discussion to be private. I'm sorry Buck. On the upside though, at least you were an inspiration to more than just myself. Take care, ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.o rg Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.or g Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] how to build an anearobic bio-digester
Hey Arden Hey gang, Does anybody know where I can find plans on how to build an anearobic bio-digester?? Right nearby. :-) Methane Digesters For Fuel Gas and Fertilizer -- With Complete Instructions For Two Working Models http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library.html#methanefry Compliments of Kirk McLoren. Nepal Biogas Plant -- Construction Manual http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library.html#nepgas Compliments of Olivier Morf. This is from the list archives: Preston et al did all the development work on the polyethylene bag digester system and put it on the map. http://www.fao.org/WAICENT/FAOINFO/AGRICULT/AGA/AGAP/FRG/Recycle/biod ig/manual.htm Biodigester installation manual Lylian Rodriguez and T R Preston University of Tropical Agriculture Foundation Finca Ecologica, University of Agriculture and Forestry, Thu Duc, Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam http://www.ias.unu.edu/proceedings/icibs/ibs/info/ecuador/install-polydig.htm HOW TO INSTALL A POLYETHYLENE BIOGAS PLANT By Francisco X. Aguilar Agronomic Engineer MSc Sustainable Agricultural Systems The Royal Agricultural College Cirencester This is an excellent resource, from the German Appropriate Technology and Ecoefficiency Programme (GATE): http://www5.gtz.de/gate/techinfo/biogas/toc.html AT Information - Biogas Digest: Index HTH. Best Keith Many thanks. Arden ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Re-reacting batches
I'm working down in the Bahamas, where we've been making 150 gallon batches with UVO for over 2 years. Recently, we'd been experiencing an abnormal amount of clogged fuel filters, so I wondered if the fuel had completed reacted. To test this, I took a 500 ml beaker of fuel and added methoxide (20 % methanol, 1.5 g/l lye) and found that a good 1/4 inch of glycerin settled to he bottom. Today, with a new batch of washed and dried fuel, I conducted the same experiment, but found a different result - the solution turned darker, but with a high density of lighter gelatinous fats floating around. The first reaction makes sense to me, the second does not. Can anyone explain this? On a side note, what are the consequences for using too much lye in one's reaction? From different sources, I've heard that it's harmless and that it creates soaps. Which is correct? Thanks, Nick ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BD solidification
The weather is starting to get colder here, and my test batch just solidified. Its only 5 degrees celcius outside, Is this normal? I was using cooking oil from a university cantine, that is normally solid at these temperatures. Should I start tryin the 2 stage methods. Teoman Winterise the oil. http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_winter.html#winterize Biodiesel in winter Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Dark Biodiesel
Hello To All, I get very dark WVO from a Chinese restaurant. I tested a sample and found virtually no water. It titrated at 1.3g/L. Usually my WVO gets mixed together, but I ran a 20gal. batch using only this oil. It washed (stir-washed) very easily.The finished BD was clear down to below 40F, but was very dark. I reprocessed a .5L sample NO glycerine dropped out. A 25ml. sample dissolved completely in 225ml methanol. It appeared to be very high quality BD. I've been running it in my car and I responded to a question by Danislov K. regarding dark BD. I told him that if it passed these quality tests it should be OK to use. BUT: In going back over the Quality Tests described at JtF . Alex Kacwrote: Deeper color biodiesel has a lot of glycerine in it in the form of various glycerids. Not good for standard engines. Remedy: If the diesel is too dark and you are sure that you used the correct quantitie(s) of catalyst(s), add a pinch more alcohol -- you could be losing it due to evaporation." - Did I give Danislov the wrong advice??? -Ifglycerine "in the form of various glycerids" was present in the finished BD wouldn'tit show up upon reprocessing? - Is it possible to have high quality BD that is very dark in color? Tom ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
