Re: [Biofuel] Jatropha Curcas Where
Dear sir, If you are interested from supplies from India we can help you. Please advise. Yours truly, Prakash Chhagani lres1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to trouble all but am unable to find a site where I can buy seeds for Jatropha Curcus, the non-toxic varietyfrom Mexico. That is I would like to be able to locate 100 kilograms of such seeds at minimum for propagation into a hedge type stabilizing system for steep hillsides that have been stripped bare and thus need to be rehabilitated.Thank you for what help any one may give. Doug [EMAIL PROTECTED]___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Biofuels in Romania
Hi, Does anyone know the lie of the land for biofuel production in Romania, or do we have anyone from Romania on the list? I've got a friend who owns some agricultural land and we would like to to talk about setting up a project. If you know anyone then please contact me using this email address or sam at cowcam dot com. Many thanks, Sam -- Sam Critchley [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** A2B - the new location-based search engine. See http://www.a2b.cc for details. Great for GPSers! *** ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] The Second Superpower
It's interesting tosee the ideology of some in government and how theyfeel that digital communications could best serve the "greater good" -- especially when it's happening on it's own and without the scrutiny of "official" national interests.During the past couple of years, there's been an interesting duality developing asdigital technology evolves in the US. The First Superpower andthe Appeal of Digital TV:As one of the first signs of a genuine interest by the federal government, President Bush is strongly advocating affordable, nationwidebroadband service in placeby 2007.Since most of this push focuses mainly on digital television, it leads me to believe that he is interested in this media as a tool for spreading his ideology to "reform" rural communities. This isn't the first time that a new technology was seen by a government of power to be auseful tool for reachingand "teaching" the masses. Joseph Goebbels distributed inexpensive radio receivers to the German public in order to help maintaininfluenceover it's people. It makes no difference who sends the message orwhat the nature of the messageis.The responsibility of understanding it falls squarely on the listener. More importantly, as aone-way, highly regulated and politically influencedmode of communication, it doesn't offer the means to fairly educate oneself andquestion the legitimacy of the source.TheSecond Superpower andthe Appeal ofIndependent Media:As the federal government pushes for the availability of digital TV,advocates of a free, unrestricted Internet will someday benefit from it's side effects. Sure, government restrictions directly placed on that media may dampen the efforts ofIndy Media proponents to use that chunk of the broadband spectrum. However, we have seen by example, a revolution of sorts. People with limited resources in addition to large corporations have found ways toget their message to the masses despite efforts tosuppress them- and yes there areUS corporationsdeveloping software to restrict what is seen on the Internet (currently being sold to countries like China).By enlarge, the Internet has become an environment that has (so far) been impossible to dominate and is composed of threethree major entities:Private industry andgovernment arecompeting for the attention ofa public, the majority of whichare indistinguishable bynational origin - except perhaps by language or email suffix. From this perspective, they areacommunity without national borders.Very often, they are able to shed a predispositionto an opinion imposed on them by a local, repressive government or culture because there activities can be kept relatively quiet. Most importantlyWE havebeen able to substantially resistlegislation spun totakethe appearance of somethingdoneforOUR best interest (i.e theUS "Clear Skies Initiative"). We are approaching a worldwide community which responds toworldwide opinion througha revolutionary innovation whichindiscriminately educates and serves the will ofthe people and leaves fewer places for illegitimate leaders to hide. I want to tell everyone that I am very excited to be a part of it.MikeReferences: "At a computer security conference in Las Vegas on Thursday, an Irish software designer described a new version of a peer-to-peer file-sharing system that he says will make it easier to share digital information anonymously and make detection by corporations and governments far more difficult."http://www.p2p-zone.com/underground/showthread.php?t=21819 the U.N. is hosting the World Summit on the Information Society. One of the goals of the summit is to advance the "internationalization" of what is known as Internet governance.http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007543"According to the 'Rural Areas and the Internet', report by Pew Internet and American Life Project, a Washington-based nonprofit group, Internet use has grown steadily among rural residents over the past several years to the point where 52 percent now say they are online, but that figure still lags behind the two-thirds of urban and suburban residents who say they use the Internet."http://www.nationalgrange.org/legislation/alerts_updates/2004/ActionAlert48.htm"The U.S. Senate Commerce Committee on Sept. 22nd approved the Rural Universal Service Equity Act, which would deliver millions of dollars to more than 40 states for investment in rural telephone networks."http://www.nationalgrange.org/legislation/alerts_updates/2004/ActionAlert47.htmhttp://www.pewinternet.org/pdfs/PIP_Rural_Report.pdf Bush announced his goal to have universal, affordable broadband service in place nationwide by 2007.http://www.mesda.com/news_publicpolicyarchive.aspx#FEDMay2004140http://technology360.typepad.com/technology360/dtv/ promoting the distribution of inexpensive radio receivers to the German public http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoebbelsThe Second
[Biofuel] Green party to exempt biofuels from taxation
As some of you may be aware, our federal government in Canada was recently kicked out of the house due to non confidence. The green party just released it's platform announcing that they have a plan to increase tax on dino fuels and exempt biofuels from these increases. As well taxes on industries and products which are environmentally unsound will help raise funds to create 'green collar' jobs. Here is a link to the platform: http://www.greenparty.ca/article34.html~MMN_position=51:22:40.html I am just wondering if any of my countrymen on this list have been in touch with your local green candidate to discuss their stance on home BD production in your local community? The party leader is comming to town this week and I have booked a meeting with him to discuss the issue. I agree with the recent discussions advocating to lie low in tall grass and I do not intend to reveal too much in this meeting but I see it as an excellent opportunity to test the waters and see just how realistic Jim Harris is on the issues surrounding energy. Obviously he is not receiving campaign funding from that sector so it will be easy for him to make fantastic claims but I want to see how much thought he has actually put into the subject. Joe ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Realising Gandhi's village ideal
Has anyone had any experience with BD in a Thermopride oil furnace? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Weaver Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 7:59 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Realising Gandhi's village ideal I looked into the Tarm but don't want to spend the money. I need to heat about 1,800 square feet in the Mid-Altantic. Currently I use a VC Resolute, and so far my problem is more too much heat that not enough, though not always in the right spots in the house. I use fans to move the air around. I am looking at the OM22 OilMiser as it is supposed to be able to burn BD, though anecdotally I've heard it needs a touch of Kerosene or HHO 1 to stay happy. It's also apparantly very sensitive to fuel quality. If I were building a new house I would either adapt an oil furnace for BD or look into either the Tarm or a wood boiler. How many btu's is a standard furnace for a 2,500 sq foot house? -Mike Appal Energy wrote: Or... http://www.alternateheatingsystems.com/woodboilers.htm And on a smaller sale... has anyone ever looked into these: http://www.woodboilers.com/wood-gasification.asp ? More to the point, has anyone ever tried BD in one of thse? http://www.woodboilers.com/multi-fuel-furnace.asp -Mike Keith Addison wrote: http://www1.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1267007.cms THE TIMES OF INDIA EDITORIAL Realising Gandhi's village ideal Anil K Rajvanshi, Ph.D. Director Nimbkar Agricultural Research Institute (NARI) Phaltan-Lonand Road, Tambmal, P.O.Box 44, Phaltan - 415523 Maharashtra, India Ph: 91-2166-222396 Fax: 91-2166-220945 E-mails: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nariphaltan.virtualave.net http://www.nariphaltan.org October 19, 2005. This is the Age of Electricity. Yet, 55-60 per cent of rural India has no electricity; drinking water supply is poor and a majority of rural population uses 180 million tons of biomass every year as fuel for cooking using primitive, inefficient and smoky chulhas. Rural India hasn't really changed much since Mahatma Gandhi's time. Villages can easily get electrified if modern hi-technology synergises with locally available resources. Biomass is an abundantly available local resource, obtained from agricultural residues. The 600 million tons of agricultural residues India generates every year can theoretically produce 70,000 MW of electric power. A hi-tech biogas producer can generate biogas with energy of about 13 MJ per kg of biomass, which is similar to that produced by burning these residues in a power plant. Freshly harvested biomass contains about 50 per cent moisture. For using it in power plants or gasifiers one has to reduce the moisture content to about 10-15 per cent. Drying biomass requires energy. The freshly harvested biomass can be directly fed into biogas reactors to produce gas, saving considerable amount of energy and time. Besides, the slurry produces excellent fertiliser and soil conditioner. For a biogas economy to succeed, it needs efficient biogas producers. At present, biogas is produced inefficiently in fixed and floating dome systems, requiring considerable amount of cowdung and other nitrogenous material. It is not suitable for a household with less than three to four cattle. Then there are problems of gas production during winter and improper mixing of inputs like biomass, night soil and cowdung. Biogas reactors should be so designed that the production/unit of biomass inputs is maximised. This can be done by properly maintaining pH of the slurry, temperature and other biochemical indicators. Use of genetically engineered microbes can also increase gas production efficiency. A village-level microutility company can be set up in rural areas which will buy locally available raw materials like cowdung and biomass, and use them in these reactors for power generation and supply the gas for cooking and other purposes. Europe has an installed electric generating capacity of about 2,500 MW from biogas alone. Besides there are reports that cars and buses are running on compressed biogas. The raw gas, which is a mixture of methane and carbon dioxide, is scrubbed to remove carbon dioxide and the resulting methane is compressed for use in automotive applications. In Sweden, an experimental train is being run on compressed biogas. In India, extra biogas can be used for running modified autorickshaws and two-wheelers. Biogas-powered diesel gensets can also produce clean drinking water as a by-product. The strategy of using locally available agricultural residues-based biogas gensets will produce electric power, excellent fertiliser and clean drinking water for the village. Besides the excess biogas can also be used to provide clean cooking fuel. A village-level utility company can set up a 500 kW biogas powered diesel genset which can supply enough
Re: [Biofuel] Jatropha Curcas Where
Try to Google for: Jatropha Curcas seeds. I got a couple hundred references as to where to purchase seeds. Good luck Arden ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Phishing -- for US members only
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is the email address to fwd phishing and Nigerian emails. Be sure all the origination data is included, When you click fwd sometimes that is not included Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Green party to exempt biofuels from taxation
Hi Joe; Even though I am on the Green Party executive I am considering voting for Jack Layton in this federal election because he has a better report card on environmental issues than Jim Harris of the Green Party. Terry Dyck From: Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Green party to exempt biofuels from taxation Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:40:24 -0500 As some of you may be aware, our federal government in Canada was recently kicked out of the house due to non confidence. The green party just released it's platform announcing that they have a plan to increase tax on dino fuels and exempt biofuels from these increases. As well taxes on industries and products which are environmentally unsound will help raise funds to create 'green collar' jobs. Here is a link to the platform: http://www.greenparty.ca/article34.html~MMN_position=51:22:40.html I am just wondering if any of my countrymen on this list have been in touch with your local green candidate to discuss their stance on home BD production in your local community? The party leader is comming to town this week and I have booked a meeting with him to discuss the issue. I agree with the recent discussions advocating to lie low in tall grass and I do not intend to reveal too much in this meeting but I see it as an excellent opportunity to test the waters and see just how realistic Jim Harris is on the issues surrounding energy. Obviously he is not receiving campaign funding from that sector so it will be easy for him to make fantastic claims but I want to see how much thought he has actually put into the subject. Joe ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] free Christmas present
http://warofconquest.com/I don't usually write an email about a game but I took a peek at a free game last evening and ended up getting to bed at half past 3 in the morning. Years ago there was a BBS game (pre internet) that had multiplayers by the name of "GWars" and I enjoyed it. This game is much larger and much more complex. It really gets you to thinking. Basically it simulates the journey from stoneage to futuristic world with resource management, social management, conflict and on and on. I suggest playing for free. It can be done and makes a better player.This game could easily have sold for $30 with no problem and it is free.Happy holidays Kirk Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Green party to exempt biofuels from taxation
Ok Terry; I never intended to discuss where to vote on a forum like this. My purpose was really to see if anyone on the list has any involvement at the political level with respect to home biodiesel production since I believe it is or soon will be on the radar screen of the law makers. You have my curiosity now though as to why the NDP gets a better score. I have to admit that I dismiss the NDP offhand as much as the other official parties and therefore don't bother to know much about what they promise.I never believe any of that crap anyhoo, and I don't believe in representative government as a democratic process so I always vote the protest. I wish the green party would get official party status though. Perhaps you could email me offlist as to why Jack Layton deserves a vote. This is not the place for it unless it pertains to alternative energy issues. Joe Terry Dyck wrote: Hi Joe; Even though I am on the Green Party executive I am considering voting for Jack Layton in this federal election because he has a better report card on environmental issues than Jim Harris of the Green Party. Terry Dyck From: Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Green party to exempt biofuels from taxation Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:40:24 -0500 As some of you may be aware, our federal government in Canada was recently kicked out of the house due to non confidence. The green party just released it's platform announcing that they have a plan to increase tax on dino fuels and exempt biofuels from these increases. As well taxes on industries and products which are environmentally unsound will help raise funds to create 'green collar' jobs. Here is a link to the platform: http://www.greenparty.ca/article34.html~MMN_position=51:22:40.html I am just wondering if any of my countrymen on this list have been in touch with your local green candidate to discuss their stance on home BD production in your local community? The party leader is comming to town this week and I have booked a meeting with him to discuss the issue. I agree with the recent discussions advocating to "lie low in tall grass" and I do not intend to reveal too much in this meeting but I see it as an excellent opportunity to test the waters and see just how realistic Jim Harris is on the issues surrounding energy. Obviously he is not receiving campaign funding from that sector so it will be easy for him to make fantastic claims but I want to see how much thought he has actually put into the subject. Joe ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Green party to exempt biofuels from taxation
"...with respect to home biodiesel production since I believe it is or soon will be on the radar screen of the law makers."Ifthere is already some overlap with respect to fuel for your home and your vehicle (i.e. diesel) and dye is used to differentiate one from the other, what happens when the overlap includes the food supply and the number of places to getfuel rises sharply.Will lawmakers really know how to fairly tax fuel?(IMHO) I think the Green Party is showing an understanding of something that should be a foregone conclusion-- that's if the public wants to take alternative energy seriously.I think the only wayStates will be able to fairly tax it's citizens in order to maintain roadways is through a use tax, adapting the technology already in use at automated toll stations. Assuming tax payers will make their own choices on fuel and that choices are available, the lower prices due to competition will pay a portion of that use tax instead of going into the pockets of robber barons.I know this scheme isn't squeaky clean. It kinda ties into our earlier discussion on the transportation departments proposal for a tracking system. If there is another scenario, I'd like to learn about it.Mike Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok Terry;I never intended to discuss where to vote on a forum like this. My purpose was really to see if anyone on the list has any involvement at the political level with respect to home biodiesel production since I believe it is or soon will be on the radar screen of the law makers. You have my curiosity now though as to why the NDP gets a better score. I have to admit that I dismiss the NDP offhand as much as the other official parties and therefore don't bother to know much about what they promise.I never believe any of that crap anyhoo, and I don't believe in representative government as a democratic process so I always vote the protest. I wish the green party would get official party status though. Perhaps you could email me offlist as to why Jack Layton deserves a vote. This is not the place for it unless it pertains to alternative energy issues.JoeTerry Dyck wrote: Hi Joe;Even though I am on the Green Party executive I am considering voting for Jack Layton in this federal election because he has a better report card on environmental issues than Jim Harris of the Green Party.Terry Dyck From: Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Green party to exempt biofuels from taxation Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:40:24 -0500As some of you may be aware, our federal government in Canada was recently kicked out of the house due to non confidence. The green party just released it's platform announcing that they have a plan to increase tax on dino fuels and exempt biofuels from these increases. As well taxes on industries and products which are environmentally unsound will help raise funds to create 'green collar' jobs. Here is a link to the platform:http://www.greenparty.ca/article34.html~MMN_position=51:22:40.htmlI am just wondering if any of my countrymen on this list have been in touch with your local green candidate to discuss their stance on home BD production in your local community? The party leader is comming to town this week and I have booked a meeting with him to discuss the issue. I agree with the recent discussions advocating to "lie low in tall grass" and I do not intend to reveal too much in this meeting but I see it as an excellent opportunity to test the waters and see just how realistic Jim Harris is on the issues surrounding energy. Obviously he is not receiving campaign funding from that sector so it will be easy for him to make fantastic claims but I want to see how much thought he has actually put into the subject.Joe___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Alum as coagulant
Alum is not the same as aluminum John D. Greg and April wrote: IIRC, aluminum soaps will thicken fuels, and that was a early way to make napalm. I'm not saying that alum would do this, but, it should be something to keep in mind, as, soap is a byproduct of biofuel production. You would not want a tank full of a flammable sticky gel that does not flow. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Doug Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 8:06 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Alum as coagulant Hi Wes: Thanks for the information. I was wondering if you have determined if adding alum has any impact on processing the WVO into BD. My weak, old, and somewhat suspect knowledge of chemistry tells me that alum will dramatically alter the pH of unbuffered solutions and that some metals (not sure about aluminium) will hasten oxidization rates in vegetable oils, shortening their shelf-life. I don't know enough to figure out for myself if there would be an impact on processing. Any ideas? TIA Doug Turner - Original Message - From: Wes Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 7:38 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Alum as coagulant After a few months of experimenting with Alum (1 liter test batches) I have concluded that Alum is effective to congeal water and most of the black sludge in used cooking oil. By adding about 1 teaspoon of alum to a liter of dirty oil, stirring and leaving to settle for a day or two, there is an obvious clarity to the oil and a layer of sediment at the bottom of the container. To make this process even more attractive, by adding more oil after pouring the clarified oil off the top, the alum seems to be able to clarify the next couple of batches without adding more alum. Adding powdered bentonite seems to help, although I have not tried to separate the effects of each. I would be interested to hear the experiences of others. Wes ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Green party to exempt biofuels from taxation
Hi Joe, Out here in BC, the climate is coldly ignorant on all things biofuel. I sent the provincial environment minister an email informing him that I thought the 50% road tax exemption on biofuels was sadly inadequate, and four months later I have yet to receive a reply. The provincial Green leader, Adriene Carr, had lunch a few years ago with a friend of mine with an environmental studies background, and knew nothing of the offshore oil drilling situation here. Despite my distaste for the feds, I do appreciate their alternative fuel excise tax exemption. I have yet to contact any federal green party member, so please keep me posted. I'll try to attend whatever they do here in Victoria (I don't even know who my candidate is! What a bad citizen I am!). Kenji Fuse ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] no speration - help
hay every onei was thinking that after 500 liter good quality b.d i left the big mistakes behind me.any way the last batch i did yesterday turned out with no separation at all.it was 95 liter wvo titration 1.4.used 19 liter methanol 466g laysame reactor and reaction time (90 min) as batches beforewhat i got is cloudy liquid with no glycerin layer i titrated the liquid - 1.25i set it aside in an open barrel and i noticed thick white wax like layer on top of itthe only thing i can think about is the lay it did look like it absorbed some water (big bunches of it stacked together)can it be that or maybe someone have other ideaether way what can be done to save the batch grateful to any comment ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Alum as coagulant
There is quite likely Aluminum in Alum, depending on type. Alum Aluminum Sulfate Al2(SO4) Note the AL2(SO4) in 3 of the 4 types of Alum below ( not a complete list ): Potash alum, K2SO4·Al2(SO4)3·24H2O Sodium alum, Na2SO4·Al2(SO4)3·24H2O Chrome alum, K2SO4·Cr2(SO4)3·24H2O Ammonia alum, NH4Al(SO4)2·12H2O Alum, in chemistry, is a term given to the crystallized double sulfates of the typical formula M+2SO4·M3+2(SO4)3·24H2O, where M+ is the sign of an alkali metal (lithium, sodium, potassium, rubidium, or cesium), and M3+ denotes one of the trivalent metals (typically ALUMINIUM, chromium, or iron (III)). The ammonium ion (NH4+) also occurs in the M+ position. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alum Like I said, IIRC, aluminum soaps will thicken fuels, and that was a early way to make napalm. I'm not saying that alum would do this, but, it should be something to keep in mind, as, soap is a byproduct of biofuel production. Greg H. - Original Message - From: John Donahue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 21:11 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Alum as coagulant Alum is not the same as aluminum John D. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Widescale Biodiesel Production from Algae by Michael Briggs
Maybe I haven't been paying strict attention and this has been brought to the list's attention before. If so, then perhaps it bears repeating. If not, then it bears some review on everyone's part who is interested in a 100% conversion to alternative liquid fuels to supplant the present liquid petroleum fuels economy that the world is burdened with. http://www.unh.edu/p2/biodiesel/article_alge.html Good read. Conservative numbers. Realistic and completely plausible. A fairly decent cradle to grave analysis. Todd Swearingen ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] no speration - help
Golan, Just for grins and giggles, take a liter and boil out any residual alcohol. Then see if anything settles out. If not, dissolve one gram of catalyst in 40 ml of methanol and mix that with 200 ml of your problem stock. Observe. First guess is that your white layer was soap. A little unusual that it manifest itself in such a manner. But it is a possibility. You could take a 50 ml sample of it and mix 10 ml of 85% phosphoric acid with it to see what happens. If its soap, it should split into an oil layer on top, an acid/glycerol layer in the middle and a white precipitate salt on bottom. Todd Swearingen hay every one i was thinking that after 500 liter good quality b.d i left the big mistakes behind me. any way the last batch i did yesterday turned out with no separation at all. it was 95 liter wvo titration 1.4. used 19 liter methanol 466g lay same reactor and reaction time (90 min) as batches before what i got is cloudy liquid with no glycerin layer i titrated the liquid - 1.25 i set it aside in an open barrel and i noticed thick white wax like layer on top of it the only thing i can think about is the lay it did look like it absorbed some water (big bunches of it stacked together) can it be that or maybe someone have other idea ether way what can be done to save the batch grateful to any comment ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] no speration - help
Sounds like water...do you have any of the old WVO around? Try heating it and see if if it spits - indicating water. Is it glop or cloudy liquid? Did you run a few test batches first? -Mike Golan Shmuel wrote: hay every one i was thinking that after 500 liter good quality b.d i left the big mistakes behind me. any way the last batch i did yesterday turned out with no separation at all. it was 95 liter wvo titration 1.4. used 19 liter methanol 466g lay same reactor and reaction time (90 min) as batches before what i got is cloudy liquid with no glycerin layer i titrated the liquid - 1.25 i set it aside in an open barrel and i noticed thick white wax like layer on top of it the only thing i can think about is the lay it did look like it absorbed some water (big bunches of it stacked together) can it be that or maybe someone have other idea ether way what can be done to save the batch grateful to any comment ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
