Re: [Biofuel] sun-grown coffee deforestation
I find I can only tolerate organic coffee. I did not realise the organic labelmeant it had to be hand picked, I just thought it was grown without chemicals. Chris ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] sun-grown coffee deforestation
Kirk, This may be truein some cases and in some types of beans, there are some real horrible concoctions under the term coffees out there that shouldbe banned from being called coffee. However the Arabica grown here is organic and hand picked, sun dried and then roasted. It is atop Arabica and as such is treated with much respect to bush, soil, pruning, harvesting. It only takes one green Arabica bean to deteriorate the taste to a third grade product with no real sale value unless used for "blending". This is normally a very small percentage of Arabica with the rest being the bitter and taste filled seeds from Robusta. Thewholesale picking or indiscriminate picking/harvesting of the Robusta means all beans are picked and the tree/bush stripped. Robusta has no greatvalue to the grower and as such gets the appropriate treatment of a poor sales product. There is not the profit for small farms to take care in the growing or harvesting and care of the Robusta coffee. 100% sun dried and mediumroasted Arabica makes for a low Caf low taste coffee of excellent choice. Arabica can be likened to a gentle awakening in the mornings with roosters calling etc, Robusta can be likened to being chucked out of bed, a bucket of cold water thrown over youand given a brutal kickstart to the day. Robusta the 24/7 of today's life styles/ Arabica the 8/5 and thefamily life. More information if yourequire is available from here, as are samples of the real stuff. Doug - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 2:59 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] sun-grown coffee deforestation I find I can only tolerate organic coffee. My wife responds even worse to the regular stuff. It is my understanding non organic is picked by defoliating the tree and all the beans are taken at once not just the ripe ones. Thus the current trend for heavy or "French" roast to mask the state of the beans. Also they are allowed one or two percent trash (contaminants) and I assume this to be defoliant contaminated leaves. Monsanto strikes again. Kirk[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The article below regarding sun-grown coffee deforestation was sent to me. Does anyone know more about this?MarilynAmericans consume 130,000,000 cups of coffee every day? Until the 1970s, farmers mostly used sustainable agricultural techniques to grow coffee. Traditionally, shade grown coffee plants are interspersed under a shielding canopy of trees that create more biodiversity and bird habitat with less need for chemical inputs. In recent decades, however, a desire to boost production has caused many producers to abandon traditional shade growing techniques in favor of coffee grown in the sun under aggressive application of fertilizers and pesticides. In the process, vast stretches of native forests were cleared. Latin America currently has the world's highest deforestation rate, in part due to this conversion to sun-grown coffee. To learn more about shade grown coffee and where you can obtain it, http://www.pachamama.org/updates/index.php?month=5year 06#7___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. MailScanner with NOD32, and is believed to be clean. ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/-- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Lao Telecom MailScanner with NOD32, and is believed to be clean. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Water from Acid process
Dear Sir, I have a question tobe solved by the experts in this forum. In biodiesel production with acid-base process, is it a limitation of FFA content without water separation (produced by esterification stage) before entering the base-process (trans-esterification). If I use feed-stock with 5 10% FFA content without water separation, what would be happen in the tran-esterification. Will it reduce the conversion or product quality? Best regards Sty Indonesia ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Key House Panel Defeats Net Neutrality
ROFL!!! Both times! Indeed Robert, but we somehow manage to struggle along without her just the same. Keith Michael Redler wrote: You can get anything you want at Addison's resturant (at JTF)! :-) Excepting Alice . . . robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Fw: You won't believe Stephen Colbert at the White House Correspondents Dinner!
I watched the two parts of the video at Democratic Underground. Dubya is seriously roasted. Peace, D. Mindock This is utterly amazing. Stephen Colbert is one brave truth-telling guy! I LOVE IT!!! Hooray for Helen Thomas, as well. I hope you enjoy, too. Thanks, Ellen! Now I've got to go watch the video...laughing all the way, jeannie p.s. I REALLY REALLY recommend watching the video at Democratic Underground. Please note there are two links, one for each of two parts.jb Re-Improved Colbert transcript (now with complete text of Colbert-Thomas video!) by Frederick Sun Apr 30, 2006 at 11:04:01 AM PDT I've taken the existing transcripts I've seen of Stephen Colbert's brilliant monologue at the White House Correspondents Dinner, and the actual footage (complete video available at Democratic Underground), and edited the transcripts (correcting spelling and punctuation, adding mistakenly omitted words, etc.) to produce the following improved transcript. I have now also transcribed all of Colbert's Press Secretary "audition video." Continue below the fold with me. Frederick's diary :: :: STEPHEN COLBERT: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Before I begin, I've been asked to make an announcement. Whoever parked 14 black bulletproof S.U.V.'s out front, could you please move them? They are blocking in 14 other black bulletproof S.U.V.'s and they need to get out. Wow. Wow, what an honor. The White House correspondents' dinner. To actually sit here, at the same table with my hero, George W. Bush, to be this close to the man. I feel like I'm dreaming. Somebody pinch me. You know what? I'm a pretty sound sleeper -- that may not be enough. Somebody shoot me in the face. Is he really not here tonight? Dammit. The one guy who could have helped. By the way, before I get started, if anybody needs anything else at their tables, just speak slowly and clearly into your table numbers. Somebody from the NSA will be right over with a cocktail. Mark Smith, ladies and gentlemen of the press corps, Madame First Lady, Mr. President, my name is Stephen Colbert and tonight it's my privilege to celebrate this president. We're not so different, he and I. We get it. We're not brainiacs on the nerd patrol. We're not members of the factinista. We go straight from the gut, right sir? That's where the truth lies, right down here in the gut. Do you know you have more nerve endings in your gut than you have in your head? You can look it up. I know some of you are going to say I did look it up, and that's not true. That's cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut. I did. My gut tells me that's how our nervous system works. Every night on my show, the Colbert Report, I speak straight from the gut, OK? I give people the truth, unfiltered by rational argument. I call it the "No Fact Zone." Fox News, I hold a copyright on that term. I'm a simple man with a simple mind. I hold a simple set of beliefs that I live by. Number one, I believe in America. I believe it exists. My gut tells me I live there. I feel that it extends from the Atlantic to the Pacific, and I strongly believe it has 50 states. And I cannot wait to see how the Washington Post spins that one tomorrow. I believe in democracy. I believe democracy is our greatest export. At least until China figures out a way to stamp it out of plastic for three cents a unit. In fact, Ambassador Zhou Wenzhong, welcome. Your great country makes our Happy Meals possible. I said it's a celebration. I believe the government that governs best is the government that governs least. And by these standards, we have set up a fabulous government in Iraq. I believe in pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps. I believe it is possible -- I saw this guy do it once in Cirque du Soleil. It was magical. And though I am a committed Christian, I believe that everyone has the right to their own religion, be you Hindu, Jewish or Muslim. I believe there are infinite paths to accepting Jesus Christ as your personal savior. Ladies and gentlemen, I believe it's yogurt. But I refuse to believe it's not butter. Most of all, I believe in this president. Now, I know there are some polls out there saying this man has a 32% approval rating. But guys like us, we don't pay attention to the polls. We know that polls are just a collection of statistics that reflect what people are thinking in "reality." And reality has a well-known liberal bias. So, Mr. President, please, pay no attention to the people that say the glass is half full. 32% means the glass -- it's important to set up your jokes properly, sir. Sir, pay no attention to the people who say the glass is half empty, because 32% means it's 2/3 empty. There's still some liquid in that glass is my point, but I wouldn't drink it. The last third is usually backwash. Okay, look, folks, my point is that I don't believe this is a low point in this presidency. I believe it
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: You won't believe Stephen Colbert at the White House Correspondents Dinner!
Thank you!!Mike "D. Mindock" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I watched the two parts of the video at Democratic Underground. Dubya is seriously roasted. Peace, D. Mindock This is utterly amazing. Stephen Colbert is one brave truth-telling guy! I LOVE IT!!! Hooray for Helen Thomas, as well. I hope you enjoy, too. Thanks, Ellen! Now I've got to go watch the video...laughing all the way, jeannie p.s. I REALLY REALLY recommend watching the video at Democratic Underground. Please note there are two links, one for each of two parts.jb Re-Improved Colbert transcript (now with complete text of Colbert-Thomas video!) by Frederick Sun Apr 30, 2006 at 11:04:01 AM PDT I've taken the existing transcripts I've seen of Stephen Colbert's brilliant monologue at the White House Correspondents Dinner, and the actual footage (complete video available at Democratic Underground), and edited the transcripts (correcting spelling and punctuation, adding mistakenly omitted words, etc.) to produce the following improved transcript. I have now also transcribed all of Colbert's Press Secretary "audition video." Continue below the fold with me. Frederick's diary :: :: STEPHEN COLBERT: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Before I begin, I've been asked to make an announcement. Whoever parked 14 black bulletproof S.U.V.'s out front, could you please move them? They are blocking in 14 other black bulletproof S.U.V.'s and they need to get out. Wow. Wow, what an honor. The White House correspondents' dinner. To actually sit here, at the same table with my hero, George W. Bush, to be this close to the man. I feel like I'm dreaming. Somebody pinch me. You know what? I'm a pretty sound sleeper -- that may not be enough. Somebody shoot me in the face. Is he really not here tonight? Dammit. The one guy who could have helped. By the way, before I get started, if anybody needs anything else at their tables, just speak slowly and clearly into your table numbers. Somebody from the NSA will be right over with a cocktail. Mark Smith, ladies and gentlemen of the press corps, Madame First Lady, Mr. President, my name is Stephen Colbert and tonight it's my privilege to celebrate this president. We're not so different, he and I. We get it. We're not brainiacs on the nerd patrol. We're not members of the factinista. We go straight from the gut, right sir? That's where the truth lies, right down here in the gut. Do you know you have more nerve endings in your gut than you have in your head? You can look it up. I know some of you are going to say I did look it up, and that's not true. That's cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut. I did. My gut tells me that's how our nervous system works. Every night on my show, the Colbert Report, I speak straight from the gut, OK? I give people the truth, unfiltered by rational argument. I call it the "No Fact Zone." Fox News, I hold a copyright on that term. I'm a simple man with a simple mind. I hold a simple set of beliefs that I live by. Number one, I believe in America. I believe it exists. My gut tells me I live there. I feel that it extends from the Atlantic to the Pacific, and I strongly believe it has 50 states. And I cannot wait to see how the Washington Post spins that one tomorrow. I believe in democracy. I believe democracy is our greatest export. At least until China figures out a way to stamp it out of plastic for three cents a unit. In fact, Ambassador Zhou Wenzhong, welcome. Your great country makes our Happy Meals possible. I said it's a celebration. I believe the government that governs best is the government that governs least. And by these standards, we have set up a fabulous government in Iraq. I believe in pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps. I believe it is possible -- I saw this guy do it once in Cirque du Soleil. It was magical. And though I am a committed Christian, I believe that everyone has the right to their own religion, be you Hindu, Jewish or Muslim. I believe there are infinite paths to accepting Jesus Christ as your personal savior. Ladies and gentlemen, I believe it's yogurt. But I refuse to believe it's not butter. Most of all, I believe in this president. Now, I know there are some polls out there saying this man has a 32% approval rating. But guys like us, we don't pay attention to the polls. We know that polls are just a collection of statistics that reflect what people are thinking in "reality." And reality has a well-known liberal bias. So, Mr. President, please, pay no attention to the people that say the glass is half full. 32% means the glass -- it's important to set up your jokes properly, sir. Sir, pay no attention to the people who say the glass is half empty, because 32% means it's 2/3 empty. There's still some liquid in that glass is my point, but I
Re: [Biofuel] FFA's as Weed Killer
howdy Thomas I am a little surprised that a dilute solution of ffa's would have any impact on plant life over a 24 hour period. My guess is that your solution contains more than ffa's. What is the pH ? how about total dissolved solids, ie salts ? Do you have any idea of the concentration of the ffa (in water I assume)? Thomas Kelly wrote: I've been gardening for over 30 years by essentially building dirt and caring for my plants from the ground up. I've been know to chop off a weed's head now and again or yank them from the ground. I've squished bugs by the thousands and lured others to deadly traps. I've never used a spray that has any real obvious results (dead insects or weeds). I've been splitting my glycerine co-product into FFA's, potassium (and some sodium) phosphate, and crude glycerine. Yesterday I sprayed FFA's on some weeds in an area of the garden that hasn't been turned yet. Today they appear to be dying. It didn't seem to discriminate ... dandelions, wild mustard, plantain, grass all withering. I'm a bit taken back. The sprays I concoct from chives, peppers, mulberry leaves etc. are intended to repel/discourage pests. I don't see any corpses. It's more a matter of faith or delusion that they are working ... I don't care which. Weeds involve physical removal and discouragement with thick mulch. The weeds sprayed w. FFA's appear to be in serious trouble only 24 hrs after spraying. What is the mechanism of FFA action on plants? Does it act on the lipid component of the cell membranes? Is it systemic or just act on the point of contact - the leaves. If it only acts on the leaves, will new shoots be sent up? If FFA's are non-toxic, biodegradable, and effective weed killers, it would be very good news to an aging gardener who turns each section of the garden by hand, meticulously picking out the weeds. I don't mind the turning, countless tons of compost over the years has turned shallow hard-pan clay into beautiful rich soil that takes little effort to turn. It's the bending to pick the weeds that gets to my back. I believe Todd Swearingen and Prof. Bob Allen have both mentioned FFA's as weed killer. My back thanks you, Tom ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- Bob Allen http://ozarker.org/bob Science is what we have learned about how to keep from fooling ourselves — Richard Feynman ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] FFA's as Weed Killer
How do you separate out the FFA's? bob allen wrote: howdy Thomas I am a little surprised that a dilute solution of ffa's would have any impact on plant life over a 24 hour period. My guess is that your solution contains more than ffa's. What is the pH ? how about total dissolved solids, ie salts ? Do you have any idea of the concentration of the ffa (in water I assume)? Thomas Kelly wrote: I've been gardening for over 30 years by essentially building dirt and caring for my plants from the ground up. I've been know to chop off a weed's head now and again or yank them from the ground. I've squished bugs by the thousands and lured others to deadly traps. I've never used a spray that has any real obvious results (dead insects or weeds). I've been splitting my glycerine co-product into FFA's, potassium (and some sodium) phosphate, and crude glycerine. Yesterday I sprayed FFA's on some weeds in an area of the garden that hasn't been turned yet. Today they appear to be dying. It didn't seem to discriminate ... dandelions, wild mustard, plantain, grass all withering. I'm a bit taken back. The sprays I concoct from chives, peppers, mulberry leaves etc. are intended to repel/discourage pests. I don't see any corpses. It's more a matter of faith or delusion that they are working ... I don't care which. Weeds involve physical removal and discouragement with thick mulch. The weeds sprayed w. FFA's appear to be in serious trouble only 24 hrs after spraying. What is the mechanism of FFA action on plants? Does it act on the lipid component of the cell membranes? Is it systemic or just act on the point of contact - the leaves. If it only acts on the leaves, will new shoots be sent up? If FFA's are non-toxic, biodegradable, and effective weed killers, it would be very good news to an aging gardener who turns each section of the garden by hand, meticulously picking out the weeds. I don't mind the turning, countless tons of compost over the years has turned shallow hard-pan clay into beautiful rich soil that takes little effort to turn. It's the bending to pick the weeds that gets to my back. I believe Todd Swearingen and Prof. Bob Allen have both mentioned FFA's as weed killer. My back thanks you, Tom ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] JtF website?
What happened to journeytoforever.org? Has it been hijacked? Michael ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] JtF website?
Looks fine to me. What's up? Bob - Original Message - From: Michael Gian To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 1:11 PM Subject: [Biofuel] JtF website? What happened to journeytoforever.org? Has it been hijacked? Michael ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] FFA's as Weed Killer
See the glycerol separation section at JTF. FFAs (100% pure) rise to the surface. They're not soluble in water. In their pure state they would be be applied in a similar manner as used by county and state road crews to curb weeds along asphalt roadways. Todd Swearingen . Mike Weaver wrote: How do you separate out the FFA's? bob allen wrote: howdy Thomas I am a little surprised that a dilute solution of ffa's would have any impact on plant life over a 24 hour period. My guess is that your solution contains more than ffa's. What is the pH ? how about total dissolved solids, ie salts ? Do you have any idea of the concentration of the ffa (in water I assume)? Thomas Kelly wrote: I've been gardening for over 30 years by essentially building dirt and caring for my plants from the ground up. I've been know to chop off a weed's head now and again or yank them from the ground. I've squished bugs by the thousands and lured others to deadly traps. I've never used a spray that has any real obvious results (dead insects or weeds). I've been splitting my glycerine co-product into FFA's, potassium (and some sodium) phosphate, and crude glycerine. Yesterday I sprayed FFA's on some weeds in an area of the garden that hasn't been turned yet. Today they appear to be dying. It didn't seem to discriminate ... dandelions, wild mustard, plantain, grass all withering. I'm a bit taken back. The sprays I concoct from chives, peppers, mulberry leaves etc. are intended to repel/discourage pests. I don't see any corpses. It's more a matter of faith or delusion that they are working ... I don't care which. Weeds involve physical removal and discouragement with thick mulch. The weeds sprayed w. FFA's appear to be in serious trouble only 24 hrs after spraying. What is the mechanism of FFA action on plants? Does it act on the lipid component of the cell membranes? Is it systemic or just act on the point of contact - the leaves. If it only acts on the leaves, will new shoots be sent up? If FFA's are non-toxic, biodegradable, and effective weed killers, it would be very good news to an aging gardener who turns each section of the garden by hand, meticulously picking out the weeds. I don't mind the turning, countless tons of compost over the years has turned shallow hard-pan clay into beautiful rich soil that takes little effort to turn. It's the bending to pick the weeds that gets to my back. I believe Todd Swearingen and Prof. Bob Allen have both mentioned FFA's as weed killer. My back thanks you, Tom ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] JtF website?
Michael Gian wrote: What happened to journeytoforever.org? Has it been hijacked? Working fine here @ 9:24AM PST. -Johnathan ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] JtF website?
do you mean journeytoforever.com? Which seems to be a Verio (registrar) home page. .org is working here, too. On 5/1/06, Johnathan Corgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Gian wrote: What happened to journeytoforever.org? Has it been hijacked? Working fine here @ 9:24AM PST. -Johnathan ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- Thanks, PC He's the kind of a guy who lights up a room just by flicking a switch We don't know a millionth of one percent about anything. - Thomas A Edison ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] JtF website?
What happened to journeytoforever.org? Has it been hijacked? Michael Sorry, bit of a glitch, it was down for an hour or so, we fixed it and now all seems fine. No hijackers. Sorry for any inconvenience. Best Keith Addison Journey to Forever KYOTO Pref., Japan http://journeytoforever.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Fwd: wvo available in central arkansas area
Anyone interested please contact Manjeev direct, he's not a list member. Read it from the bottom. Best Keith Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 23:21:36 +0900 To: MANJEEV DEMEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: bio-diesel either or; just would like to put our waste oil to use if possible w/o paying some one to dispose of it for me. A novice because I figured it would be more useful to them than a commercial producer. Right, but between the two are the experienced biodiesel homebrewers and small coops and so on. I think they're the ones to go for because you can work out stable arrangements with them. Novices start off with one-litre test batches of fresh oil, better to wait a bit. But just looking for information, any you could provide will be a help. We're in Japan, but I'll send it to our mailing list asking anyone interested to contact you direct. You can see list messages here: http://sustainablelists.org/pipermail/biofuel_sustainablelists.org/ The Biofuel Archives Hope this helps. Best wishes Keith Addison Journey to Forever KYOTO Pref., Japan http://journeytoforever.org/ Thanks Regards - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Keith Addison To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]MANJEEV DEMEL Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 4:54 AM Subject: Re: bio-diesel I run a restaurant that generates a large amount of waste fry oil that is cleaner than most restaurant waste oil us our fry foods don't generate lots of particles that fall to the bottom of the fryers. Was interested in knowing if there are any bio-diesel novices out in central arkansas area?? Are you offering it or looking for someone to collaborate with? Why novices? Best wishes Keith Addison Journey to Forever KYOTO Pref., Japan http://journeytoforever.org/http://journeytoforever.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] eBay auction for virgin soy oil
The way I see it that price is about right for virgin stock when combined in a holistic operation. An oilseed plant near here could not make a profit until they quit single oil product marketing, The plant trys to sell high grade Oils to the food industry but when it switches from one oil to another it cannot market this product i.e. canola/flax mix. This happens when the pipes are purged from one to to the other. So they have added this oil to purchased WVO from collectors and process Bio fuel. I am not sure what they are doing with the by product but I know the plan is to split it into usable sellable product feed stocks. So for a Big Plant Yea thats a good price, but to us it is just not feasible. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
