Re: [Biofuel] was..was.. was..smart car coming to US in 2008
Hi, Don't get me wrong, I think that they are wonderfull little cars but if they made a 4 seater with adequate stowage room and a diesel version it would really start to hit the mainstream market in a big way. Perhaps a minivan/car hybrid...but would it still be a Smart car? regards tallex ---Original Message--- From: Tony Marzolino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] was..smart car coming to US in 2008 Sent: 02 Jul '06 14:08 Hello All, All this size discussion is nice, but what about price??? Does anyone know? And will the diesel be offered in the US market? Thanks, Tony Marzolino _JOHN MARKHAM [EMAIL PROTECTED]_ wrote: Don't write off the Smart car on size or refinement. I have driven one and in the city and its great for parking, the front seats have more room than a Neon and it has all the bells and whistles of it's bigger brothers. Having a Mercedes motor cycle engine means that it's gas mileage put's you back under a dollar a gallon! John Markham EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AltEnergyNetwork Sent: 02 July 2006 08:15 To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] was..smart car coming to US in 2008 That's great Haken, so if they already have a four seater, it is not to much of a stretch to do a minivan version as well and still be considered a smart car? Also, I've seen the two seater and while really cool, there is no way you are going to fit 2 - 250 pound people side by side, they would look like circus clowns stuffed into the seats. People want utility in their vehicles and still be as efficient as possible. tallex Smart Car Coming to US in 2008 Launch by DaimlerChrysler http://www.alternate-energy.net/N/news.php?detail=n1151818384.news ---Original Message--- From: Hakan Falk Subject: Re: [Biofuel] smart car coming to US in 2008 Sent: 02 Jul '06 06:56 They do have a 4 seater model already, it is selling in Europe for quite a while. Hakan At 08:06 02/07/2006, you wrote: Great idea but I think that they better make a four seater for the US market. Smart cars have been out for about a year in Canada and while really cool, I have a hard time imagining 2 average Americans in one ;) LOL, regards tallex Smart Car Coming to US in 2008 Launch by DaimlerChrysler http://www.alternate-energy.net/N/news.php?detail=n1151818384.news Get your daily alternative energy news Alternate Energy Resource Network 1000+ news sources-resources updated daily http://www.alternate-energy.net Next Generation Grid http://groups.yahoo.com/group/next_generation_grid/ Tomorrow-energy http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tomorrow-energy/ Alternative Energy Politics http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Alternative_Energy_Politics/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Sneak preview the [LINK: http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=40762/*http://www.yahoo.com/preview] all-new Yahoo.com. It's not radically different. Just radically better.
Re: [Biofuel] DIY links
I ran across makezine.com last week, interesting. Are you aware of www.hackaday.com? Doug, N0LKK Kansas USA inc. Kirk McLoren wrote: http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/diy_projects/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] was..was..smart car coming to US in 2008
I'd stay off the highway, heck, I'm scared to ride my Harley on the interstate... mark manchester wrote: I hate to see these things on the highway, looks like people flying along under an umbrella. Surely can speed along, this is pretty much a four-wheel hooded motorcycle. Incredibly cute, though, and comfy. Very popular here in Toronto, but there's zero trunk space. Jesse From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2006 10:44:51 -0400 To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] was..was..smart car coming to US in 2008 I've been thinking that what I need would be a two seater with a fairly large storage space as I usually go downtown with servers and stuff. My Golf works ok with the seats down, but if the whole vehicle were designed for hauling small and medium loads a Smart Car design would be perfect. Now think of a diesel/electric hybrid... -Weaver AltEnergyNetwork wrote: Haken, I've seen the 2 seater up really close, took a look inside, watched it being parked in a miniscule spot, been behind one and in front of one in traffic, haven't driven one yet. They are really cool little cars. I think it is going to fill an important niche market for couriers, deliveries, fleets and businesses that like the fact that it sips thimbles of gasoline. Still, in order to wean Americans off of their obsession with suvs, it might be a good idea if the company made a heftier 4 seater utility that would appeal to the suv crowd and still sip at the pump. Image is everything and if the average joe thinks that they can get one of these green machines and still be able to lug around the stuff that they do AND save at the pump, great. It's the old having cake and eating it too syndrome but people respond to it, regards tallex Smart Car Coming to US in 2008 Launch by DaimlerChrysler http://www.alternate-energy.net/N/news.php?detail=n1151818384.news ---Original Message--- From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] was..smart car coming to US in 2008 Sent: 02 Jul '06 08:22 Tallex, The market for 250 pound people is very much smaller in Europe than in US and I think that it is not a primary target for SMART cars. Do not only look at one, try it and you will be surprised on how spacious it is for 2 people and how well it transport/park for urban dwellers. I do however agree on the problems in US, it is little space for the oversized chip and snack packs, that seems to be the essentials for US commuters. I am not a small person 186 centimeter and 96 kilo (which is too much), but I fit well in a Smart. I did however not consider the image problem. Hakan At 09:15 02/07/2006, you wrote: That's great Haken, so if they already have a four seater, it is not to much of a stretch to do a minivan version as well and still be considered a smart car? Also, I've seen the two seater and while really cool, there is no way you are going to fit 2 - 250 pound people side by side, they would look like circus clowns stuffed into the seats. People want utility in their vehicles and still be as efficient as possible. tallex Smart Car Coming to US in 2008 Launch by DaimlerChrysler http://www.alternate-energy.net/N/news.php?detail=n1151818384.news ---Original Message--- From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] smart car coming to US in 2008 Sent: 02 Jul '06 06:56 They do have a 4 seater model already, it is selling in Europe for quite a while. Hakan At 08:06 02/07/2006, you wrote: Great idea but I think that they better make a four seater for the US market. Smart cars have been out for about a year in Canada and while really cool, I have a hard time imagining 2 average Americans in one ;) LOL, regards tallex Smart Car Coming to US in 2008 Launch by DaimlerChrysler http://www.alternate-energy.net/N/news.php?detail=n1151818384.news Get your daily alternative energy news Alternate Energy Resource Network 1000+ news sources-resources updated daily http://www.alternate-energy.net Next Generation Grid http://groups.yahoo.com/group/next_generation_grid/ Tomorrow-energy http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tomorrow-energy/ Alternative Energy Politics http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Alternative_Energy_Politics/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Re: [Biofuel] was..was..smart car coming to US in 2008
In the U.K. 2005, the Smart car was voted Britains worst handling car by motoring journalists from the Top Gear motoring TV programme. Apparently it goes round corners worse than any SUV or MPV, so if you get youirself one, make sure you slow down plenty for any corners. On the other hand, look out for the Smart Coupe, a tiny little two seater sports car that was voted one of the BEST handling cars on the road. Personally, I would rather ride a bicycle than drive either of them. Regards Bob - Original Message - From: mark manchester [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 2:57 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] was..was..smart car coming to US in 2008 I hate to see these things on the highway, looks like people flying along under an umbrella. Surely can speed along, this is pretty much a four-wheel hooded motorcycle. Incredibly cute, though, and comfy. Very popular here in Toronto, but there's zero trunk space. Jesse From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2006 10:44:51 -0400 To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] was..was..smart car coming to US in 2008 I've been thinking that what I need would be a two seater with a fairly large storage space as I usually go downtown with servers and stuff. My Golf works ok with the seats down, but if the whole vehicle were designed for hauling small and medium loads a Smart Car design would be perfect. Now think of a diesel/electric hybrid... -Weaver AltEnergyNetwork wrote: Haken, I've seen the 2 seater up really close, took a look inside, watched it being parked in a miniscule spot, been behind one and in front of one in traffic, haven't driven one yet. They are really cool little cars. I think it is going to fill an important niche market for couriers, deliveries, fleets and businesses that like the fact that it sips thimbles of gasoline. Still, in order to wean Americans off of their obsession with suvs, it might be a good idea if the company made a heftier 4 seater utility that would appeal to the suv crowd and still sip at the pump. Image is everything and if the average joe thinks that they can get one of these green machines and still be able to lug around the stuff that they do AND save at the pump, great. It's the old having cake and eating it too syndrome but people respond to it, regards tallex Smart Car Coming to US in 2008 Launch by DaimlerChrysler http://www.alternate-energy.net/N/news.php?detail=n1151818384.news ---Original Message--- From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] was..smart car coming to US in 2008 Sent: 02 Jul '06 08:22 Tallex, The market for 250 pound people is very much smaller in Europe than in US and I think that it is not a primary target for SMART cars. Do not only look at one, try it and you will be surprised on how spacious it is for 2 people and how well it transport/park for urban dwellers. I do however agree on the problems in US, it is little space for the oversized chip and snack packs, that seems to be the essentials for US commuters. I am not a small person 186 centimeter and 96 kilo (which is too much), but I fit well in a Smart. I did however not consider the image problem. Hakan At 09:15 02/07/2006, you wrote: That's great Haken, so if they already have a four seater, it is not to much of a stretch to do a minivan version as well and still be considered a smart car? Also, I've seen the two seater and while really cool, there is no way you are going to fit 2 - 250 pound people side by side, they would look like circus clowns stuffed into the seats. People want utility in their vehicles and still be as efficient as possible. tallex Smart Car Coming to US in 2008 Launch by DaimlerChrysler http://www.alternate-energy.net/N/news.php?detail=n1151818384.news ---Original Message--- From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] smart car coming to US in 2008 Sent: 02 Jul '06 06:56 They do have a 4 seater model already, it is selling in Europe for quite a while. Hakan At 08:06 02/07/2006, you wrote: Great idea but I think that they better make a four seater for the US market. Smart cars have been out for about a year in Canada and while really cool, I have a hard time imagining 2 average Americans in one ;) LOL, regards tallex Smart Car Coming to US in 2008 Launch by DaimlerChrysler http://www.alternate-energy.net/N/news.php?detail=n1151818384.news Get your daily alternative energy news Alternate Energy Resource Network 1000+ news sources-resources updated daily http://www.alternate-energy.net Next Generation Grid http://groups.yahoo.com/group/next_generation_grid/ Tomorrow-energy http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tomorrow-energy/ Alternative Energy Politics
[Biofuel] hand wash baby bottles and other lexan food products containers
The flashpoint for this sudden concern surrounding the safety of drinking water out of bottles made of Lexan is a published report in the April 2003 issue of Current Biology by Dr. Patricia Hunt, a geneticist at CaseWestern Reserve University in Cleveland. As a result of a worker accidentally washing polycarbonate mouse cages with a very harsh detergent, chromosomal abnormalities that were normally found in only 1 percent to 2 percent of mouse eggs prior to the washing spiked to 40 percent. The cause was Bisphenol-A (BPA) which is a known endocrine disruptor that mimics the hormone estrogen. The BPA leached from the polycarbonate. For humans not living in mouse cages, food-grade polycarbonate is what those clear and sometimes now colorful water bottles are made of that are widely sold these days not just at outdoor shops, but also at health clubs and at chic coffee houses. http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/technical/snewsbpa.pdfMore study is needed to determine if even the POTENTIAL of risk to the human reproductive system exists. So far what we do know is that high heat and detergents with high alkalinity (conditions you would find in a dishwasher for example) as well as cleaning with bleach can accelerate the deterioration of polycarbonate. And since GSI has, in order to address a spider cracking issue in wine and other plastic glasses, been advising consumers to hand wash and use mild detergent only, SNEWS would still feel it prudent to begin advising consumers to do the same for all polycarbonate bottles and food containers hand wash, mild detergent. Open multiple messages at once with the all new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] DIY links
Have seen it - nice site. I wish there was one for pvc motors and pumps and hydraulics etc. prototyping on the cheap is difficult.Kirk KC7THLDoug Younker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ran across makezine.com last week, interesting. Are you aware of www.hackaday.com?Doug, N0LKKKansas USA inc.Kirk McLoren wrote: http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/diy_projects/___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] hand wash baby bottles and other lexan food productscontainers
my wife has been collecting glass baby bottles for two years now. seems like it wasnt such a bad idea after all... JasonICQ#: 154998177MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren To: biofuel Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 12:27 PM Subject: [Biofuel] hand wash baby bottles and other lexan food productscontainers The flashpoint for this sudden concern surrounding the safety of drinking water out of bottles made of Lexan is a published report in the April 2003 issue of Current Biology by Dr. Patricia Hunt, a geneticist at CaseWestern Reserve University in Cleveland. As a result of a worker accidentally washing polycarbonate mouse cages with a very harsh detergent, chromosomal abnormalities that were normally found in only 1 percent to 2 percent of mouse eggs prior to the washing spiked to 40 percent. The cause was Bisphenol-A (BPA) which is a known endocrine disruptor that mimics the hormone estrogen. The BPA leached from the polycarbonate. For humans not living in mouse cages, food-grade polycarbonate is what those clear and sometimes now colorful water bottles are made of that are widely sold these days not just at outdoor shops, but also at health clubs and at chic coffee houses. http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/technical/snewsbpa.pdf More study is needed to determine if even the POTENTIAL of risk to the human reproductive system exists. So far what we do know is that high heat and detergents with high alkalinity (conditions you would find in a dishwasher for example) as well as cleaning with bleach can accelerate the deterioration of polycarbonate. And since GSI has, in order to address a spider cracking issue in wine and other plastic glasses, been advising consumers to hand wash and use mild detergent only, SNEWS would still feel it prudent to begin advising consumers to do the same for all polycarbonate bottles and food containers hand wash, mild detergent. Open multiple messages at once with the all new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/381 - Release Date: 7/3/2006 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/381 - Release Date: 7/3/2006 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] facts worth knowing about hydraulics -pdf
http://www.haave.no/pdf/FactsWorthKnowingAboutHydraulics.pdf Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1/min.___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] universal nut sheller plans
Title: Re: [Biofuel] universal nut sheller plans Thanks for posting, Kirk. That's our Jock's nutsheller, by golly. Jesse From: Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 10:03:58 -0700 (PDT) To: biofuel Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] universal nut sheller plans http://www.instructables.com/id/ERSV3ZTAA8EP287HYR/?ALLSTEPS Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=42243/*http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/handraisers ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] DIY links
Great info guys, again lots of great reading, I spent the entire day. Gary From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirk McLoren Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 12:50 PM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] DIY links Have seen it - nice site. I wish there was one for pvc motors and pumps and hydraulics etc. prototyping on the cheap is difficult. Kirk KC7THL Doug Younker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ran across makezine.com last week, interesting. Are you aware of www.hackaday.com? Doug, N0LKK Kansas USA inc. Kirk McLoren wrote: http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/diy_projects/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] hand wash baby bottles and other lexan foodproductscontainers
Interesting that doing water sampling for arsenic, nitric acid cleaned plasticizedtest tubes must be used. If water samples for arsenic were taken in glass then the water would be contaminated with arsenic from the glass in an atomic absorption analysis oven. Even glass has a minor problem. Doug - Original Message - From: Jason Katie To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 1:13 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] hand wash baby bottles and other lexan foodproductscontainers my wife has been collecting glass baby bottles for two years now. seems like it wasnt such a bad idea after all... JasonICQ#: 154998177MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren To: biofuel Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 12:27 PM Subject: [Biofuel] hand wash baby bottles and other lexan food productscontainers The flashpoint for this sudden concern surrounding the safety of drinking water out of bottles made of Lexan is a published report in the April 2003 issue of Current Biology by Dr. Patricia Hunt, a geneticist at CaseWestern Reserve University in Cleveland. As a result of a worker accidentally washing polycarbonate mouse cages with a very harsh detergent, chromosomal abnormalities that were normally found in only 1 percent to 2 percent of mouse eggs prior to the washing spiked to 40 percent. The cause was Bisphenol-A (BPA) which is a known endocrine disruptor that mimics the hormone estrogen. The BPA leached from the polycarbonate. For humans not living in mouse cages, food-grade polycarbonate is what those clear and sometimes now colorful water bottles are made of that are widely sold these days not just at outdoor shops, but also at health clubs and at chic coffee houses. http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/technical/snewsbpa.pdf More study is needed to determine if even the POTENTIAL of risk to the human reproductive system exists. So far what we do know is that high heat and detergents with high alkalinity (conditions you would find in a dishwasher for example) as well as cleaning with bleach can accelerate the deterioration of polycarbonate. And since GSI has, in order to address a spider cracking issue in wine and other plastic glasses, been advising consumers to hand wash and use mild detergent only, SNEWS would still feel it prudent to begin advising consumers to do the same for all polycarbonate bottles and food containers hand wash, mild detergent. Open multiple messages at once with the all new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/381 - Release Date: 7/3/2006-- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Lao Telecom MailScanner with NOD32, and is believed to be clean. No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/381 - Release Date: 7/3/2006 ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/-- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Lao Telecom MailScanner with NOD32, and is believed to be clean. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
