Re: [Biofuel] CITCO Joe Oil
What do you think will be the mark-up of the distributors in distributing this 40% off oil from Venezuela? After all no good deed goes un-profited. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] CITCO Joe Oil The devil was put at bay perhaps. Jim From: Thomas Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] CITCO Joe Oil Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 10:14:20 -0500 Hello All, I just saw part of a commercial on TV; major NY (USA) station. Nobody should be left out in the cold It showed the CITGO insignia on an oil delivery truck . Mother and daughter in a cold apartment Hi, I'm Joe Kennedy... Thanks to the good people of Venezuela you can get heating oil at 40% off. Call me (phone #) at Joe's Oil. Anybody know about this? I remember discussion about Venezuala's offer to supply heating oil at reduced rates to families in need, last winter, but it seemed to be shot down. Tom ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Ethyl Esters (was Making Methanol)
Hi Joe, I didn't follow you when you wrote: I am really curious about the castor oil trick. I wonder how to do it? I think the methanol I have recovered is already over 90% pure and I think the castor oil would sink to the bottom. If there was a high percentage of water the oil would float on top and you could do something like normal distillation through the oil layer evaporating pure alcohol off the top of the oil layer and gradually removing it from the water below. I haven't done any experiments yet. Of course the goal is to move to ethyl eventually as well. I thought the idea was to dissolve the distilled alcohol in castor oil, then remove the water that does not dissolve and then proceed to distill the alcohol from the castor oil. This would require alcohol to be highly soluble in castor oil (or a lot of castor oil). The more soluble, I think, the more energy to distill the alcohol out. What you are saying, if I have it right, reminds me of a selectively permeable membrane. A fairly small volume of castor oil floating on a large volume of hydrated alcohol would, in a sense, act to select which molecules get to pass from the bottom layer (liquid) to the top layer (vapor). Even at low temps (35 - 40C?), the alcohol would vaporize from the castor oil. As it was removed (vacuum?) from the still its partial pressure would remain low --- a continuous stream from the liquid through the castor oil to the vapor layer and out. Would the repulsive force (hydrophobic interaction) between water and castor oil be sufficient to prevent water vapor from pushing through the oil layer into the vapor layer? Would the interactions between the alcohol and water allow water to travel with the alcohol through the oil? (Cotransport systems like this occur in living cells). Maybe I have it all wrong. You do have me thinking. The last time that happened .. harmonic mixing ... I almost buzzed a finger on the table saw. Today I do some grunt work . nothing dangerous. Best to you don't hesitate to correct me if I have it all wrong. Tom - Original Message - From: Joe Street To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ethyl Esters (was Making Methanol) Well Tom; Seives will definitely do but there are the nagging problems we discussed. You could make a trap by welding or modifying a suitable pressure vessel. I was thinking of using a scrapped fire extinguisher. Put a fitting on the other end end and screens in the bottom to keep the seive pellets inside. Wrap the whole thing with heater tape and fiberglass insulation. That would be sweet but if you ever had a boilover it would mean oil contaminating the seives..a risk I guess. I am really curious about the castor oil trick. I wonder how to do it? I think the methanol I have recovered is already over 90% pure and I think the castor oil would sink to the bottom. If there was a high percentage of water the oil would float on top and you could do something like normal distillation through the oil layer evaporating pure alcohol off the top of the oil layer and gradually removing it from the water below. I haven't done any experiments yet. Of course the goal is to move to ethyl eventually as well. soon Joe Thomas Kelly wrote: Joe, I got a bit discouraged re: the distillation of ethanol. I have plans for making a reflux still out of a beer keg. I think it will distill to 92 - 95% purity. A friend gave me a beer keg . problem: It's full of beer !!! Got to get a tap and empty it. I think your idea of a trap, containing zeolite, between the still and the condenser is a good one. Vacuum would allow for regeneration of the zeolite at temps low enough to be energy efficient and would not damage the zeolite. How do we heat the trap? I'm at the beginning, middle, end of about a dozen projects some have stalled due to loss of interest I've got to rally. Time to get back to it! We should work together. I really want to get off the meth;) Ditto Maybe this little methanol price crisis will serve as a wake-up call ... Good to hear from you Hope you're on the mend Tom - Original Message - From: Joe Street To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Making Methanol Hi Tom; I couldn't agree more. I have always planned to attempt ethyl esters. That's one of the reasons I went for vacuum as I understand the limits for water are much tighter with ethyl esters production. Don't forget about the castor oil method for drying
[Biofuel] The good news is that the Republicans lost. The bad news is that the Democrats won.
http://members.aol.com/bblum6/aer39.htm Anti-Empire Report, November 24, 2006 The Anti-Empire Report Some things you need to know before the world ends November 24, 2006 by William Blum Would Jesus get out of Iraq? The good news is that the Republicans lost. The bad news is that the Democrats won. The burning issue -- US withdrawal from Iraq -- remains as far from resolution as before. A clear majority of Americans are opposed to the war and almost all of them would be very happy if the US military began the process of leaving Iraq tomorrow, if not today. The rest of the world would breathe a great sigh of relief and their long-running love affair with the storybook place called America could begin to come back to life. A State Department poll conducted in Iraq this past summer dealt with the population's attitude toward the American occupation. Apart from the Kurds -- who assisted the US military before, during, and after the invasion and occupation, and don't think of themselves as Iraqis -- most people favored an immediate withdrawal, ranging from 56% to 80% depending on the area. The State Department report added that majorities in all regions except Kurdish areas said that the departure of coalition forces would make them feel safer and decrease violence.[1] George W. is on record declaring that if the people of Iraq ask the United States to leave, the US will leave. He also has declared that the Iraqis are not happy they're occupied. I wouldn't be happy if I were occupied either.[2] Yet, despite all this, and much more, the United States remains, with predictions from Pentagon officials that American forces will be in Iraq for years. Large US military bases are being constructed there; they're not designed as temporary structures. Remember that 61 years after the end of World War II the United States still has major bases in Germany. Fifty-three years after the end of the Korean War the US has tens of thousands of troops in South Korea. Washington insists that it can't leave Iraq until it has completed training and arming a police force and army which will keep order. Not only does this inject thousands more armed men -- often while in uniform -- into the raging daily atrocities, it implies that the United States is concerned about the welfare and happiness of the Iraqi people, a proposition rendered bizarre by almost four years of inflicting upon those same people a thousand and one varieties of hell on earth, literally destroying their ancient and modern civilization. We are being asked to believe that the American military resists leaving because some terrible thing will befall their beloved Iraqi brethren. (We bomb you because we care about you ... suitable to be inscribed on the side of a cruise missile.) Even as I write this, on November 14, I read: An overnight US raid killed six people in mainly-Shia east Baghdad, sparking angry anti-US protests. Thirty died in a US raid on the Sunni stronghold of Ramadi, Iraqi officials said.[3] At the same time, the American occupation fuels hostility by the Sunnis toward Shiite collaborators with the occupation, and vice-versa. And each attack of course calls for retaliation. And the bodies pile up. If the Americans left, both sides could negotiate and participate in the reconstruction of Iraq without fear of being branded traitors. The Iraqi government would lose its quisling stigma. And Iraq's security forces would no longer have the handicap of being seen to be working on behalf of foreign infidels against fellow Iraqis. So why don't the Yanquis just go home? Is all this not rather odd? Three thousand of their own dead, tens of thousands critically maimed. And still they stay. Why, they absolutely refuse to even offer a timetable for withdrawal. No exit plan. No nothing. No, it's not odd. It's oil. Oil was not the only motivation for the American invasion and occupation, but the other goals have already been achieved -- eliminating Saddam Hussein for Israel's sake, canceling the Iraqi use of the euro in place of the dollar for oil transactions, expansion of the empire in the middle east with new bases. American oil companies have been busy under the occupation, and even before the US invasion, preparing for a major exploitation of Iraq's huge oil reserves. Chevron, ExxonMobil and others are all set to go. Four years of preparation are coming to a head now. Iraq's new national petroleum law -- written in a place called Washington, DC -- is about to be implemented. It will establish agreements with foreign oil companies, privatizing much of Iraq's oil reserves under exceedingly lucrative terms. Security will be the only problem, protecting the oil companies' investments in a lawless country. For that they need the American military close
[Biofuel] Catholic Bishops Urge a Precautionary Approach To Global Warming
Catholic Bishops Urge a Precautionary Approach To Global Warming Five years ago the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops adopted a precautionary stance toward global warming: While some uncertainty remains, most experts agree that something significant is happening to the atmosphere Although debate continues about the extent and impact of this [global] warming, it could be quite serious. Consequently, it seems prudent not only to continue to research and monitor this phenomenon, but to take steps now to mitigate possible negative effects in the future. From: United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, Jun. 15, 2001 http://www.precaution.org/lib/06/prn_catholic_bishops_statement.01061 5.htm[Printer-friendly version] GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE: A Plea for Dialogue, Prudence, and the Common Good A Statement of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops [The text for Global Climate Change: A Plea for Dialogue, Prudence, and the Common Good originated from the Domestic and International Policy Committees and was prepared in consultation with the bishops' Committee on Doctrine and the Committee on Science and Human Values. The document was approved for publication by the full body of United States Catholic bishops at their June 2001 General Meeting and has been authorized by the undersigned. -- Msgr. William P. Fay, General Secretary, USCCB] Introduction As people of faith, we are convinced that the earth is the Lord's and all it holds (Ps 24:1). Our Creator has given us the gift of creation: the air we breathe, the water that sustains life, the fruits of the land that nourish us, and the entire web of life without which human life cannot flourish. All of this God created and found very good. We believe our response to global climate change should be a sign of our respect for God's creation. The continuing debate about how the United States is responding to questions and challenges surrounding global climate change is a test and an opportunity for our nation and the entire Catholic community. As bishops, we are not scientists or public policymakers. We enter this debate not to embrace a particular treaty, nor to urge particular technical solutions, but to call for a different kind of national discussion. Much of the debate on global climate change seems polarized and partisan. Science is too often used as a weapon, not as a source of wisdom. Various interests use the airwaves and political process to minimize or exaggerate the challenges we face. The search for the common good and the voices of poor people and poor countries sometimes are neglected. At its core, global climate change is not about economic theory or political platforms, nor about partisan advantage or interest group pressures. It is about the future of God's creation and the one human family. It is about protecting both the human environment and the natural environment.[1] It is about our human stewardship of God's creation and our responsibility to those who come after us. With these reflections, we seek to offer a word of caution and a plea for genuine dialogue as the United States and other nations face decisions about how best to respond to the challenges of global climate change. The dialogue and our response to the challenge of climate change must be rooted in the virtue of prudence. While some uncertainty remains, most experts agree that something significant is happening to the atmosphere. Human behavior and activity are, according to the most recent findings of the international scientific bodies charged with assessing climate change, contributing to a warming of the earth's climate. Although debate continues about the extent and impact of this warming, it could be quite serious (see the sidebar The Science of Global Climate Change). Consequently, it seems prudent not only to continue to research and monitor this phenomenon, but to take steps now to mitigate possible negative effects in the future. As Catholic bishops, we seek to offer a distinctively religious and moral perspective to what is necessarily a complicated scientific, economic, and political discussion. Ethical questions lie at the heart of the challenges facing us. John Paul II insists, We face a fundamental question which can be described as both ethical and ecological. How can accelerated development be prevented from turning against man? How can one prevent disasters that destroy the environment and threaten all forms of life, and how can the negative consequences that have already occurred be remedied?[2] Because of the blessings God has bestowed on our nation and the power it possesses, the United States bears a special responsibility in its stewardship of God's creation to shape responses that serve the entire human family. As pastors, teachers, and citizens, we bishops seek to contribute to our national dialogue by examining the ethical implications of climate
[Biofuel] Precautionary Assessment' -- A New Tool For Making Decisions
Seattle toxicologist Steve Gilbert has developed a new way to make decisions about toxic chemicals, incorporating the precautionary principle. From: Rachel's Precaution Reporter #65, Nov. 22, 2006 http://www.precaution.org/lib/06/prn_pa_intro.061121.htm[Printer-fri endly version] Precautionary Assessment' -- A New Tool For Making Decisions Steve Gilbert is one of those rare, gifted scientists who can talk about complicated subjects in a way that everyone can understand. His book, http://www.powells.com/biblio/71-0415311683-0A Small Dose of Toxicology; The Health Effects of Common Chemicals is a masterpiece of good science writing, and his http://www.asmalldoseof.org/web site is a treasure trove of understandable information about chemicals and health. Steve was one of the driving forces behind the creation of the Seattle Working Group on the http://www.precaution.org/lib/pp_def.htmPrecautionary Principle, which has convinced the city to add precautionary language to the http://www.precaution.org/lib/06/ht060308.htm#Seattle_Comprehensive_P lan_Incorporates_PrecautionCity Plan and introduced a http://www.precaution.org/lib/06/ht061018.htm#Washington_State_Public _Health_Association_Adopts_Precautionprecaution resolution that was adopted by the Washington State Public Health Association. In his work as a toxicologist, Steve has observed the shortcomings of numerical risk assessment as a decision-making tool, and recently he has developed a new tool for making decisions about toxic materials. He calls it precautionary assessment. Steve's full explanation of precautionary assessment is available http://www.precaution.org/lib/precaution_assessment.061112.dochere, accompanied by an Excel spreadsheet, found http://www.precaution.org/lib/precautionary_assessment.062106.xlsher e. Steve says, The goal of precautionary assessment (PA) is to move beyond risk assessment and allow communities and individuals to incorporate their knowledge, values and ethics into a more comprehensive evaluation of a hazardous condition. Precautionary assessment contains three basic elements: a) community and social issues, b) exposure issues, and c) hazard and toxicity issues. Each element is broken down into a series of questions that are scored numerically and summed to produce a summary score for each element. A lack of knowledge usually is indicated by applying the highest score. The PA is designed to help place the knowledge available within the context of the community. In contrast to the traditional risk assessment, the PA is a more comprehensive approach to evaluating the human and environmental health risks. Overall, the PA, by building upon the foundation of the precautionary principle, is a more reasonable, rational, and responsible approach to evaluating environmental and human health risks of chemicals. Take a look, give it a try, and tell Steve what you think: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Paraquat and palm oil
Evil stuff. That's how my friend Ah Jeh died, and others in that village. http://journeytoforever.org/keith_teamoney.html Tea Money Syngenta is an evil company that needs to die. http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg30628.html [biofuel] Mammoth corporations Best Keith http://www.panna.org/resources/documents/sygentaBackgrounder.dv.html PANNA: Paraquat - A Dangerous Poison Concerns over the hazards of paraquat have prompted many countries to ban this herbicide. Paraquat has been a subject of a campaign by PAN International for decades as one of the Dirty Dozen pesticides that must be eliminated worldwide. Agricultural workers unions across the world, spearheaded by the International Union of Food and Agricultural Workers, also have been calling for a ban on paraquat for years. Farmers and agricultural workers exposed to paraquat during mixing and spraying often experience both immediate toxic effects and long-term health problems. Short-term health effects among paraquat users include eye injury, nosebleeds, irritation and burns to the skin and other parts of the body. Other symptoms of acute poisoning include nausea, vomiting or pains, and difficulty in breathing, and may develop with a delay of two to three days. Chronic exposure to paraquat can affect the lungs, nervous system or brain, skin and reproduction with possible birth defects. Epidemiological studies link the long-term exposure to low doses of paraquat to decreases in lung capacity and the herbicide was associated with an increased risk for developing Parkinson's disease. Animal studies show that paraquat damages dopamine-producing brain cells; insufficient production of dopamine is known to be one of the major factors in the development of Parkinson's disease. Syngenta - A Threat to Sustainable Palm Oil Syngenta AG is applying for Ordinary Membership status within the Roundtable on Sustainable Palm Oil (RSPO), which would give it voting rights within the body. The RSPO is an association created by organizations involved with the global supply chain for palm oil. With requests for sustainably produced palm oil coming initially from big buyers in Europe , the RSPO's principal objective is development of a credible definition of sustainable palm oil production and implementation of practices that comply with this definition. (See http://www.sustainable-palmoil.org/) Currently Syngenta is only an Affiliate member, a status that does not give them voting rights in RSPO processes. If Syngenta does gain voting rights, it will have greater ability to influence RSPO's processes. This attempt to become a voting member of the RSPO undermines the Roundtable's goal of promoting sustainable production of palm oil. Direct involvement in the RSPO of agro-chemical companies like Syngenta that produce and resist attempts to eliminate dangerous pesticides from global supply chains is a threat to workers' health and the environment. It would seriously undermine the credibility of RSPO in promoting sustainable palm oil production. Syngenta is the world's largest producer of paraquat, one of the most widely used and extremely hazardous pesticides used on palm oil plantations. Now Syngenta has applied for voting membership in the Roundtable on Sustainable Palm Oil (RSPO), an international effort to support development of a credible definition of sustainable palm oil production and implementation of practices that comply with this definition. Agricultural workers, farmers, public health experts, and environmental advocates involved in this process request your help in asking the RSPO to reject Syngenta's membership. Paraquat has caused untold harm to millions of plantation workers, including women sprayers in Malaysia and other countries. Yet Syngenta has long fought efforts to protect workers by eliminating paraquat use on plantations, where prevailing conditions make so-called safe use of this powerful poison impossible. Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 20:16:20 -0500 (EST) From: Pesticide Acton Network North America [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PAN ALERT: Hold Syngenta Responsible for Global Paraquat Poisonings Paraquat, an extremely toxic herbicide, poisons tens of thousands of people every year. It is manufactured by the worlds largest pesticide company, Swiss multinational Syngenta. There is no antidote for this dangerous pesticide, yet it is marketed in 100 countries and used in large quantities particularly by farmers in the Southern Hemisphere. Swiss NGO Berne Declaration is holding a virtual Peoples Vote on Syngentas practices and asking for your participation. PAN groups and many others are collaborating in the broad public campaign to bring public attention to Syngentas inhuman business policies. We ask you to join in demanding that Syngenta take responsibility for the devastating health impacts of this highly hazardous pesticide and stop production now. Take
[Biofuel] Education And Sufficiency
Sustainability presupposes the simultaneous application of three fundamental principles: the precautionary principle, adopting a preventive rather than remedial approach; the principle of solidarity between all peoples of the world and between the present generations and those to come; and the principle of people participation in decision-making. From: Bankok (Thailand) Post, Nov. 19, 2006 http://www.precaution.org/lib/06/prn_pp_and_sustainability.061119.htm [Printer-friendly version] Education And Sufficiency By Ioan Voicu Sustainability is a hot and controversial topic. We are not living in times of real sustainable development. More than one-fourth of humankind suffers from chronic poverty. Hunger, military conflicts, terrorism, human-rights abuses, environmental degradation and climate change, natural disasters and pandemics all threaten human dignity and the very survival of mankind. The Johannesburg World Summit on Sustainable Development (2002) concluded by consensus that development is sustainable only if future generations inherit a quality of environment at least equal to that inherited by their predecessors. It presupposes the simultaneous application of three fundamental principles: the http://www.precaution.org/lib/pp_def.htmprecautionary http://www.precaution.org/lib/pp_def.htmprinciple, adopting a preventive rather than remedial approach; the principle of solidarity between all peoples of the world and between the present generations and those to come; and the principle of people participation in decision-making. While still an ambiguous concept, sustainability is recognised as a way of life that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs. This generous objective cannot be implemented without adequate education. Therefore, the period from 2005-2014 was proclaimed by the United Nations as the Decade of Education for Sustainable Development (ESD), for which Unesco is the lead agency. ESD is a vision of education that seeks to empower people to assume responsibility for creating a sustainable future. There are four major thrusts: improving basic education; reorienting existing education to address sustainable development; developing public understanding and awareness; and providing training for all sectors of society, including business, industry, and governments. There are different stakeholders in this complex process: governments and intergovernmental bodies, mass media, civil society and non-governmental organizations, the private sector and formal education institutions. A primary objective of the UN Decade of ESD is to facilitate the attainment of the Millennium Development Goals. Three pillars Sustainable development is an omnibus concept that attempts to bridge the divide between economic growth and environmental protection, while taking into account other issues traditionally associated with development. Unfortunately, it is often misinterpreted as focusing exclusively on environmental aspects. In reality, it encompasses three areas: economic, environmental and social. The UN 2005 World Summit Outcome Document refers to these areas as interdependent and mutually reinforcing pillars of sustainable development. However, more clarifications are needed. A scientific conference will be convened in Germany in May 2007 to deal with all areas which are important for sustainable development. The catalogue of issues includes energy, water, soil, air, biodiversity, natural and man-made resources, agriculture, forests, health, climate and global change, production and consumption, environmental technologies, transport, buildings, regional and urban development, cultural heritage, employment, economic, social and cultural changes and change agents, as well as indicators. Promoting sustainability is building the future. The originality of the process is that the foundations and the walls have to be constructed at the same time. All states have to accept this specificity and assimilate the truth that real change is the only productive response to the global crisis of sustainability. Using the tools of multilateral diplomacy, the Group of 77 (in fact, 131 countries , including Thailand) and China called again on developed countries at the current 61st session of the UN General Assembly to cooperate with countries of the South in research and development, in order to facilitate the transfer of appropriate and advanced technology, in particular environmentally sound technology. From this perspective, the work programme must exhibit not only predictability, but flexibility, to reflect the true nature of the relationships between issues and relevant means of implementation. It should highlight the various responsibilities of the different actors and their levels of involvement in the implementation process. While the primary focus remains at the
[Biofuel] Obituary of Mark Purdey who exposed pesticide basis to Mad Cow disease
You can add Purdey's name to Tesla and Rife for attracting the attention of those who seem to have vested interests in business as usual. Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ http://allcreatureconnections.org See info on him on my BSE pages http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/bse.htm he was right on! Sheri From: JULIE GRIFFITHS [EMAIL PROTECTED] The article fails to mention that Mark's work was indeed replicated by an American university around 2 years ago. If I remember correctly, the team was able to produce Mad Cow through pesticides and altering mineral content in the animal feed. Obituary from The Daily Telegraph, Sat. 18 Nov. 2006, page 27 Mark Purdey - Exmoor farmer who mounted a passionate one-man campaign claiming BSE was caused by pesticides. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?view=DETAILSgrid=xml=/news/2006 /11/18/db1802.xml Mark Purdey Last Updated: 12:01am GMT 18/11/2006 Mark Purdey, who has died aged 52, was a maverick farmer who argued that BSE, or mad cow disease, was caused by chemicals and not contaminated cattle feed; his efforts to challenge the Government, the chemical industry and the British scientific establishment, although unavailing, were widely admired, with a former cabinet minister, Tom King, hailing Purdey's classic piece of scientific investigation. The command post for his one-man campaign was Purdey's remote organic farm on Exmoor, where he raised a herd of pedigree Jersey cattle, immersed himself in the mysteries of organic chemistry, and pondered a sinister series of misfortunes that persuaded him that he and his campaign had been jinxed. A shambling, scarecrow-like figure who cared little about his appearance, Purdey was regarded by his critics as a deranged, dangerous agitator, and by his admirers as an enlightened and inspired visionary sleuth. But his passionate belief that pesticides on farms were causing, and contributing to, BSE, and posed a grave threat to human health, was subsequently shown to be misplaced; his theory failed to withstand scientific scrutiny, a fact that Purdey himself could never bring himself to admit. advertisement John Mark Purdey was born on Christmas Day 1953 at Much Hadham, Hertfordshire. He was descended from a long line of gifted eccentrics an ancestor walked from Inverness to London to launch the Purdey shotgun firm; his grandfather, Lionel, was shell-shocked during the First World War and lobbied Lord Kitchener to recognise the condition as a genuine illness which should be treated accordingly. Expelled from Haileybury for post-A-level high jinks, Purdey was accepted to read Zoology at London University but instead went to Ireland to establish an organic farming community, later moving to Pembrokeshire. As a birdwatcher in boyhood, Purdey had witnessed the quivering death of a blackbird in a field that had just been sprayed with pesticide; he remained haunted by the image, convinced that the use of such chemicals derived from military nerve gas was tantamount to detonating a toxic bomb, with incalculable poisonous side-effects. In 1984, when the Ministry of Agriculture ordered him to treat his cattle with a systemic organophosphate (OP) treatment for warble fly, Purdey refused to comply, took his case to the High Court and won. Finding himself front page news, he was swamped by letters from other farmers who suspected that OP treatments had ruined their health. Although untrained, Purdey studied the science, becoming convinced that OPs were also the root cause of BSE in cattle. Moreover, he discovered that, compared with other countries, cattle in Britain had been given exceptionally high doses of systemic OP (phosmet). With the government blaming BSE on contaminated meat and bone meal feed, Purdey questioned why the disease had not occurred in countries which had imported the same feed from Britain. The tide of public opinion started to turn Purdey's way following his BBC television documentary about OPs and human health, screened in 1988: the then Poet Laureate, Ted Hughes, wrote offering a million congratulations. But following his family's move from Wales to the west country, Purdey began to be blighted by mysterious circumstance: someone started firing guns over his property and blocked his driveway with a lorry; Doberman dogs were unleashed to chase his cows. After they had decided to sell up, the Purdeys' new farmhouse was burnt down the night before they moved, driving them into hiding. Purdey's farm vet died in a mysterious car crash, echoing the strange death of his solicitor, who unaccountably lost control of his car and hit a wall; phone lines to his
Re: [Biofuel] Methanol as Windshield wash antifreeze
That is around what I used in Wyoming I was using Heet didn't even know it was methanol. Works great. - Original Message - From: PAUL MILLERmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgmailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol as Windshield wash antifreeze Hi Tom: A friend who mixes windshield wash commercially uses 35% in the winter. That is plenty strong for Montana, but if he uses that strength he does not have to worry if the temp goes below -10F by several degrees. Paul - Original Message - From: Thomas Kellymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuelmailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 6:33 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol as Windshield wash antifreeze Help if you can. I have relatives that own a bus company. They have 150+ gallons of windshield wash fluid. It is not winterized. How much methanol should be added to each gallon of washer fluid in order to prevent freezing to say -10F (-23C) ? I will experiment as follows: Small sample of fluid in freezer check temp it freezes at Add measured amount of methanol . check temp it freezes at Repeat until I get a vol:vol ratio that produces the desired results. I have other things to do tomorrow if anyone has a better plan/knows the correct ratio it would be appreciated. Tom ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Happy Thanksgiving
They are also Painfully called Jerusalem artichokes. I consider them a
delicacy that warrants respect, so hence I call them by another name. you
really should try them if you have a spot that gets hot sun and you can give
them tons of water.
And yes I am a bit more partial to the stout as well!
Jim
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From: Thomas Kellymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgmailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Happy Thanksgiving
Jim,
Go with the STOUT .. didn't mean to shout
What are Sun Chokes?? (Jerusalem Artichokes?)
This is becoming the food network .. food the original biofuel.
No complaints from me, I like it.
Like a friend says: Food is good, especially when you're hungry. It
comes in different colors and flavors too, ya know.
Tom
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From: JAMES PHELPSmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Happy Thanksgiving
The only trouble I have is deciding between Stout or draft. h
Say for those inclined to grow Sun chokes here is my favorite recipe for
this native American tuber;
Steam 2 cups sunchokes till fully cooked
mash in saucepan LEAVE SKINS ON!
Add 1 can Chicken or beef broth 11/2 cups
Add 1 can of mushroom stems and pieces
Add 1 cup cream half and half
1 teaspoon Corriander
1 teaspoon powdered dill
1/4 cup rice powder (I prefer basmati or Japanese mini rice {king of rice})
1 teaspoon salt
dash of pepper (on top of each bowl to dress it up)
(you can make rice powder with a coffee grinder as D Mindock mentioned)
Add water to preferred consistency
Add a pat of butter on top when serving with some chopped chives as a
Enjoy!
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Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 6:16 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] Happy Thanksgiving
Happy Thanksgiving to All,
May we all enjoy our Pumpkin Soup, a slab of Crusty Bread, and our
favorite refreshment . James Phelps' suggestion of a Guiness appeals to
me.
Best Wishes to All,
Tom
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Re: [Biofuel] CITCO Joe Oil
from what i remember from last winter (AM sources -- MsM gave the usual bushCo spin: subversive/terrorist political act), the discount was from the state-owned oil driller in Venezuela, on proviso it was authentically passed on intact to Citgo-served low-income retail heating-oil customers. The rest of Citgo product line customers was unaffected, was/is approx. 2cpgUS above prevailing market average. Fair enough -- i've switched my gasoline purchases to Citgo (tho i could probably qualify for HO discount, i don't use dino products directly for heating). E.A.C. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you think will be the mark-up of the distributors in distributing this 40% off oil from Venezuela? After all no good deed goes un-profited. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] CITCO Joe Oil The devil was put at bay perhaps. Jim From: Thomas Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] CITCO Joe Oil Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 10:14:20 -0500 Hello All, I just saw part of a commercial on TV; major NY (USA) station. Nobody should be left out in the cold It showed the CITGO insignia on an oil delivery truck . Mother and daughter in a cold apartment Hi, I'm Joe Kennedy... Thanks to the good people of Venezuela you can get heating oil at 40% off. Call me (phone #) at Joe's Oil. Anybody know about this? I remember discussion about Venezuala's offer to supply heating oil at reduced rates to families in need, last winter, but it seemed to be shot down. Tom ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Ethyl Esters (was Making Methanol)
Joe and Tom, Yes they won't sell anhydrous Ethanol e-100 without adding gasoline or . perhaps Biodiesel if the customer asks for it that way, Hmm now if I can just get my friend at the Ethanol plant to use Biodiesel to denture it instead of gas. H Jim - Original Message - From: Thomas Kellymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgmailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 5:42 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ethyl Esters (was Making Methanol) Hi Joe, I didn't follow you when you wrote: I am really curious about the castor oil trick. I wonder how to do it? I think the methanol I have recovered is already over 90% pure and I think the castor oil would sink to the bottom. If there was a high percentage of water the oil would float on top and you could do something like normal distillation through the oil layer evaporating pure alcohol off the top of the oil layer and gradually removing it from the water below. I haven't done any experiments yet. Of course the goal is to move to ethyl eventually as well. I thought the idea was to dissolve the distilled alcohol in castor oil, then remove the water that does not dissolve and then proceed to distill the alcohol from the castor oil. This would require alcohol to be highly soluble in castor oil (or a lot of castor oil). The more soluble, I think, the more energy to distill the alcohol out. What you are saying, if I have it right, reminds me of a selectively permeable membrane. A fairly small volume of castor oil floating on a large volume of hydrated alcohol would, in a sense, act to select which molecules get to pass from the bottom layer (liquid) to the top layer (vapor). Even at low temps (35 - 40C?), the alcohol would vaporize from the castor oil. As it was removed (vacuum?) from the still its partial pressure would remain low --- a continuous stream from the liquid through the castor oil to the vapor layer and out. Would the repulsive force (hydrophobic interaction) between water and castor oil be sufficient to prevent water vapor from pushing through the oil layer into the vapor layer? Would the interactions between the alcohol and water allow water to travel with the alcohol through the oil? (Cotransport systems like this occur in living cells). Maybe I have it all wrong. You do have me thinking. The last time that happened .. harmonic mixing ... I almost buzzed a finger on the table saw. Today I do some grunt work . nothing dangerous. Best to you don't hesitate to correct me if I have it all wrong. Tom - Original Message - From: Joe Streetmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgmailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ethyl Esters (was Making Methanol) Well Tom; Seives will definitely do but there are the nagging problems we discussed. You could make a trap by welding or modifying a suitable pressure vessel. I was thinking of using a scrapped fire extinguisher. Put a fitting on the other end end and screens in the bottom to keep the seive pellets inside. Wrap the whole thing with heater tape and fiberglass insulation. That would be sweet but if you ever had a boilover it would mean oil contaminating the seives..a risk I guess. I am really curious about the castor oil trick. I wonder how to do it? I think the methanol I have recovered is already over 90% pure and I think the castor oil would sink to the bottom. If there was a high percentage of water the oil would float on top and you could do something like normal distillation through the oil layer evaporating pure alcohol off the top of the oil layer and gradually removing it from the water below. I haven't done any experiments yet. Of course the goal is to move to ethyl eventually as well. soon Joe Thomas Kelly wrote: Joe, I got a bit discouraged re: the distillation of ethanol. I have plans for making a reflux still out of a beer keg. I think it will distill to 92 - 95% purity. A friend gave me a beer keg . problem: It's full of beer !!! Got to get a tap and empty it. I think your idea of a trap, containing zeolite, between the still and the condenser is a good one. Vacuum would allow for regeneration of the zeolite at temps low enough to be energy efficient and would not damage the zeolite. How do we heat the trap? I'm at the beginning, middle, end of about a dozen projects some have stalled due to loss of interest I've got to rally. Time to get back to it! We should work together. I really want to get off the meth;) Ditto Maybe
Re: [Biofuel] Happy Thanksgiving
Thanks D It sure goes a long way back D. Mindock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Leo, T-day is something that started with the pilgrims who came over from Europe to escape religious persecution. At least that's what I think. Halloween is an old pagan holiday that refuses to go away. It is also a time to celebrate the harvest of crops too. So the two have blended. This is my take on it. But like most gringos I don't really don't know as much about our history as I'd like. Halloween seems to be growing in popularity here in the USA. I have a couple friends who are witches, the nice kind. Peace and light, D. Mindock - Original Message - From:leobunyan To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 4:01AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] HappyThanksgiving Thanksgiving is an american thing Down here in Oz we don'thave it What does it mean??? And while we are at it what ishalloween all about Leo D. Mindock [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Thanks, Tom. Hope you had a good one. We did. My wife received a gift of a huge chunk of pumpkin yesterday. So she's making her fab soup with it. Looking forward to some soup tomorrow. I got some Michelob Light and some artisan bread, with ghee, to go with it. Peace light, D. Mindock -Original Message - From:ThomasKelly To:biofuel Sent:Thursday, November 23, 2006 7:16 AM Subject:[Biofuel] Happy Thanksgiving Happy Thanksgiving to All, May we allenjoy our Pumpkin Soup, a slab of Crusty Bread, and our favoriterefreshment . James Phelps' suggestion of a Guiness appeals to me. Best Wishes to All, Tom - ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] The Great Thanksgiving Hoax
Very interesting Thanks D D. Mindock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leo, Here's something about the Thanksgiving here in the USA. It just appeared in my email inbox. The story does have a moral, whether it's correct or not, I not qualified to say. Peace, D. Mindock 11/23/2006 The Great Thanksgiving Hoax by Richard J. Marbury Each year at this time school children all over America are taught the official Thanksgiving story, and newspapers, radio, TV, and magazines devote vast amounts of time and space to it. It is all very colorful and fascinating. It is also very deceiving. This official story is nothing like what really happened. It is a fairy tale, a whitewashed and sanitized collection of half-truths which divert attention away from Thanksgiving's real meaning. The official story has the pilgrims boarding the Mayflower, coming to America and establishing the Plymouth colony in the winter of 1620-21. This first winter is hard, and half the colonists die. But the survivors are hard- working and tenacious, and they learn new farming techniques from the Indians. The harvest of 1621 is bountiful. The Pilgrims hold a celebration, and give thanks to God. They are grateful for the wonderful new abundant land He has given them. The official story then has the Pilgrims living more or less happily ever after, each year repeating the first Thanksgiving. Other early colonies also have hard times at first, but they soon prosper and adopt the annual tradition of giving thanks for this prosperous new land called America. The problem with this official story is that the harvest of 1621 was not bountiful, nor were the colonists hard-working or tenacious. 1621 was a famine year and many of the colonists were lazy thieves. In his History of Plymouth Plantation, the governor of the colony, William Bradford, reported that the colonists went hungry for years, because they refused to work in the fields. They preferred instead to steal food. He says the colony was riddled with corruption, and with confusion and discontent. The crops were small because much was stolen both by night and day, before it became scarce eatable. In the harvest feasts of 1621 and 1622, all had their hungry bellies filled, but only briefly. The prevailing condition during those years was not the abundance the official story claims; it was famine and death. The first Thanksgiving was not so much a celebration as it was the last meal of condemned men. But in subsequent years something changes. The harvest of 1623 was different. Suddenly, instead of famine now God gave them plenty, Bradford wrote, and the face of things was changed, to the rejoicing of the hearts of many, for which they blessed God. Thereafter, he wrote, any general want or famine hath not been amongst them since to this day. In fact, in 1624, so much food was produced that the colonists were able to begin exporting corn. What happened? After the poor harvest of 1622, writes Bradford, they began to think how they might raise as much corn as they could, and obtain a better crop. They began to question their form of economic organization. This had required that all profits benefits that are got by trade, working, fishing, or any other means were to be placed in the common stock of the colony, and that, all such persons as are of this colony, are to have their meat, drink, apparel, and all provisions out of the common stock. A person was to put into the common stock all he could, and take out only what he needed. This from each according to his ability, to each according to his need was an early form of socialism, and it is why the Pilgrims were starving. Bradford writes that young men that are most able and fit for labor and service complained about being forced to spend their time and strength to work for other men's wives and children. Also, the strong, or man of parts, had no more in division of victuals and clothes, than he that was weak. So the young and strong refused to work, and the total amount of food produced was never adequate. To rectify this situation, in 1623 Bradford abolished socialism. He gave each household a parcel of land and told them they could keep what they produced, or trade it away as they saw fit. In other words, he replaced socialism with a free market, and that was the end of famines. Many early groups of colonists set up socialist states, all with the same terrible results. At Jamestown, established in 1607, out of every shipload of settlers that arrived, less than half would survive their first twelve months in America. Most of the work was being done by only one-fifth of the men, the other four-fifths choosing to be parasites. In the winter of 1609-10, called The Starving Time, the population fell from five-hundred to sixty. Then the Jamestown colony was converted to a
