[Biofuel] Re: MPG-CAP PLEASE ADVICE NEEDED
1° Golan, don't yell here, no need to, or put your Caps Lock of. 2° why no link to that offer? how can we evaluate it ? 3° Don't bother to find a link ,( 36300 in Google;-) and it passed here before i guess. 4° it's an other MLM scam. From FFi, Fuel Freedom international, Florida. FFi just wrote to me: hi i wonder how much it would cost to run a advert with you... LOL! We don't accept adverts. I suppose they get points for trying. Whatever, I'll bet they're making loads of money right now, them and all the others flogging fuel pills and magnets and free energy devices and bits of the Journey to Forever website at eBay and so on. This guy is great! http://www.energy-secrets.com/ You see him in Google ads: Biodiesel Secrets Controversial website exposes shocking facts about biodiesel. www.energy-secrets.com Master salesman! Sign in with a false address and give it a scroot, just to see a master at work. He sure knows his market. It's not a rip-off from JtF. I think it's this stuff: http://journeytoforever.org/bflpics/bdpdf/bdpdf.html He flogs it for $200 a time or something. He must be rolling in it by now. This is a useful website for debunking fuel-saving scams: http://www.fuelsaving.info/ffi.htm Fuel saving gadgets - a professional engineer's view: FFI MPG-Caps Best Keith If it looks to good to be true, it mostly is. ;-) Bruno M. At 20:43 05/12/2006, Golan Shmuel wrote: HI U ALL I HAD JUST BEEN OFFER TO USE KIND OF WONDER MPG-CAP is a caplet you put into your fuel tank:This makes the fuel, petrol or diesel, burn more efficiently, increasing the power SAVES 15-20% FROM THE FUEL CONSUMPTION ,CUT DOWN POLLUTION ... ANY ONE HEARD OR TRIED I WISH THAT'S FOR REAL ALL THE BEST GOLAN == ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Water
I now live in a place where rivers run year 'round and rainfall can last for days on end. However, I grew up in Los Angeles, where a history of stealing water from areas with sparse populations (and resultingly, little political clout) contributed significantly to the growth of a city that really has no business being so big. The discussions about climate change often mention water shortages in passing, but I don't hear a lot about water conservation among many people. In that light, I found this story very interesting: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6590362 Last night, I heard this one on the BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6174689.stm This doesn't bode well for Africa, but the problem is global. I found an article on this topic by George Monibot this morning: http://environment.guardian.co.uk/water/story/0,,1891587,00.html Scary stuff! robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice The Long Journey New Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Water
Robert, Thanks for this! It is about time we focused some attention on an issue of crushing importance. I would like to offer the following quote: "There is a lot of oil in the desert, but not much water, which one would you offer a thirsty person?" Fred From: robert and benita rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgTo: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSubject: [Biofuel] WaterDate: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 08:32:05 -0800 I now live in a place where rivers run year 'round and rainfall can last for days on end. However, I grew up in Los Angeles, where a history of stealing water from areas with sparse populations (and resultingly, little political clout) contributed significantly to the growth of a city that really has no business being so big. The discussions about climate change often mention water shortages in passing, but I don't hear a lot about water conservation among many people. In that light, I found this story very interesting: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6590362Last night, I heard this one on the BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6174689.stmThis doesn't bode well for Africa, but the problem is global. I found an article on this topic by George Monibot this morning: http://environment.guardian.co.uk/water/story/0,,1891587,00.htmlScary stuff!robert luis rabello "The Edge of Justice" "The Long Journey" New Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Water
Hi Robert Scary stuff, yes. Here's a couple of previous roundups on water problems. Don't know if the links still work: http://snipurl.com/qcpd Re: [biofuel] Sewage Waste Water - was: Somewhat OT: Animal Waste 4 Aug 2002 With a new top: http://snipurl.com/rcgo Re: [biofuel] Cross post - next generation solar generation 5 Sep 2004 (But IIRC Darryl didn't like Maude Barlow.) All best Keith I now live in a place where rivers run year 'round and rainfall can last for days on end. However, I grew up in Los Angeles, where a history of stealing water from areas with sparse populations (and resultingly, little political clout) contributed significantly to the growth of a city that really has no business being so big. The discussions about climate change often mention water shortages in passing, but I don't hear a lot about water conservation among many people. In that light, I found this story very interesting: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6590362 Last night, I heard this one on the BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6174689.stm This doesn't bode well for Africa, but the problem is global. I found an article on this topic by George Monibot this morning: http://environment.guardian.co.uk/water/story/0,,1891587,00.html Scary stuff! robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice The Long Journey New Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.cahttp://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] TiO2 (Titanium Dioxide) Lights
Hello all, I was just wondering if anyone has heard anything about the effects of these Ozone Lights. I guess that they don't actually create O3, but they do kill airborne pathogens. Most of the online literature that I've found goes back to one study that showed this light effective in killing E. Coli bacteria in clinical trials. Anyone have experiences with this, or anything similiar? Thanks, Luke Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Energy saving
After moving my site http://energysavingnow.com a number of times and changed domain names, I have finally had the time to fix most of the links and information. It was a mess, but I think I did catch most of the problems and if you like to look, it would be nice if you tell me about things I might have missed. After being inactive and not worked on the site, I am surprised about how much useful information it was on it. Hakan ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] More Weird Weather
Mike, My wife says the same exact thing. It would be nice to be able to just go about my hobbies and work and not delve into the things I'm not supposed to be aware of, and then to try to spread the word. I think in this instance that the wives mean well but unless we get lobotomized we need to keep on trying to right the situations that Big Biz keeps foisting on us. Global Warming is the big issue, but there are untold others. Maybe Big Biz wants to drive over a cliff but I sure don't want to join in. Peace and light, we gotta fight. D. Mindock - Original Message - From: MK DuPree To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] More Weird Weather Terry...any chance you could direct us to where you read this? Last night I was thinking about global warming and the reasons behind it and I wondered if everything might start suffocating at some point. Now today comes your mentioning the CO2 increase. I don't like these kind of coincidences, but they happen. On the other hand, maybe I really shouldn't read the documentation of this number. Maybe I shouldn't read anything about anything that seems to really matter. Ignorance is bliss, my wife reminds me, not because she believes it, but because she doesn't understand why I should try to learn what I can about something over which I have little or no control. Maybe she's right, but I'm a fathead and want to know anyway. Thanks. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Terry Dyck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] More Weird Weather Hi Jason, A new report states that CO2 has increased by 250% since the year 2000. That could explain the weird weather. Terry Dyck From: Jason Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] More Weird Weather Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 23:22:07 -0600 i have a theory about how all of this climate change is going to proceed. all the gases and toxins that are being shoved into the atmosphere will hold heat and all this fantastic energy will hyperactivate the weather, the rain will pull particulates and volatiles out of the air in the rainshadows. the droughts will clear the landscape in certain key equatorial areas which will be prime ground for containment, and over hundreds (maybe thousands) of years, the water cycle will carry the toxins to the sun blasted equator where they will be deposited as salts and other contaminated solids and be truly sequestered (or become rancid festering swamps where no creature would dare go). granted during this time, humanity and most of the weaker species on earth will be killed off... but hey, what can i say? Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: robert and benita rabello To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] More Weird Weather JAMES PHELPS wrote: This year was hotter than the records set in 1930 in Wyoming ND SD NE and it was a tie in Montana. A caveat when discussing weather in relation to Global warming. I often hear people say so much for global warming on days like this in Montana ( -40 F wind chills +10 deg F still) but they really don't understand that this is nothing - Montana has not had a normal winter for well over 6 years. My point in using these extreme examples, is that climate change results in weather patterns that fall outside of norms. In simple terms, the earth acts like a giant heat engine. All of the energy that's getting trapped in the atmosphere gets expressed in the form of stronger high pressures (warm air) and lower low pressures (cold air). The warmth in the oceans is transpiring into the atmosphere as vapor and condensing as either rain or snow, depending on the air temperature. We've had an enormous amount of precipitation recently, which means that somewhere on earth, LESS rain and snow is falling. Drought and deluge are part of the shifting climate, as is the increasing severity of the storms we're seeing. robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ -- -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
Re: [Biofuel] More Weird Weather
Have you seen the change in Lou Dobbs lately?? It is very interesting good fodder now if that would happen to Rush Limpmind hmm the possibilities - Original Message - From: D. Mindockmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgmailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] More Weird Weather Mike, My wife says the same exact thing. It would be nice to be able to just go about my hobbies and work and not delve into the things I'm not supposed to be aware of, and then to try to spread the word. I think in this instance that the wives mean well but unless we get lobotomized we need to keep on trying to right the situations that Big Biz keeps foisting on us. Global Warming is the big issue, but there are untold others. Maybe Big Biz wants to drive over a cliff but I sure don't want to join in. Peace and light, we gotta fight. D. Mindock - Original Message - From: MK DuPreemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgmailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] More Weird Weather Terry...any chance you could direct us to where you read this? Last night I was thinking about global warming and the reasons behind it and I wondered if everything might start suffocating at some point. Now today comes your mentioning the CO2 increase. I don't like these kind of coincidences, but they happen. On the other hand, maybe I really shouldn't read the documentation of this number. Maybe I shouldn't read anything about anything that seems to really matter. Ignorance is bliss, my wife reminds me, not because she believes it, but because she doesn't understand why I should try to learn what I can about something over which I have little or no control. Maybe she's right, but I'm a fathead and want to know anyway. Thanks. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Terry Dyck [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgmailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] More Weird Weather Hi Jason, A new report states that CO2 has increased by 250% since the year 2000. That could explain the weird weather. Terry Dyck From: Jason Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgmailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgmailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] More Weird Weather Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 23:22:07 -0600 i have a theory about how all of this climate change is going to proceed. all the gases and toxins that are being shoved into the atmosphere will hold heat and all this fantastic energy will hyperactivate the weather, the rain will pull particulates and volatiles out of the air in the rainshadows. the droughts will clear the landscape in certain key equatorial areas which will be prime ground for containment, and over hundreds (maybe thousands) of years, the water cycle will carry the toxins to the sun blasted equator where they will be deposited as salts and other contaminated solids and be truly sequestered (or become rancid festering swamps where no creature would dare go). granted during this time, humanity and most of the weaker species on earth will be killed off... but hey, what can i say? Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: robert and benita rabello To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgmailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] More Weird Weather JAMES PHELPS wrote: This year was hotter than the records set in 1930 in Wyoming ND SD NE and it was a tie in Montana. A caveat when discussing weather in relation to Global warming. I often hear people say so much for global warming on days like this in Montana ( -40 F wind chills +10 deg F still) but they really don't understand that this is nothing - Montana has not had a normal winter for well over 6 years. My point in using these extreme examples, is that climate change results in weather patterns that fall outside of norms. In simple terms, the earth acts like a giant heat engine. All of the energy that's getting trapped in the atmosphere gets expressed in the form of stronger high pressures (warm air) and lower low pressures (cold air). The warmth in the oceans is transpiring into the atmosphere as vapor and condensing as either rain or snow, depending on the air temperature. We've had an enormous
