Re: [Biofuel] Crude fatty acid distillate
Thanks Jan, So you are saying that Aleks Kac's two stage process is the way to go on this one? Start with the acid-based stage and finish with the base-based stage. That's doing it twice right? Am doing small batches on the single stage base process (about 100 liters veg. oil). Will blending this with new veg. oil make a difference? Been reading the Foolproof Method over and over again to familiarize myself. Looks like it. Much thanks again. Ken - Original Message - From: Jan Warnqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Crude fatty acid distillate Hello Ken, fatty acids are possible to esterify with an acid catalyst. The formed water has to be drawn off, so it is always nice to start with a low water content. Performed correctly, the esterification will produce 90-95% esters. Usually these kinds of reactions are performed twice for a good conversion grade. With best regards AGERATEC AB Jan Warnqvist - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Crude fatty acid distillate Hi everyone, I sent this out a few days ago. I was told by someone in the oil mill that crude fatty acid distillate is just a fancy name for their seconds or reject oils, which soap factories take from them and make into soap. Anyone has any experience with this kind of stock being made into biodiesel? Will such a high FFA content give problems? Thanks. Ken - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:15 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Crude fatty acid distillate Hi everyone, An oil mill has just told me that they have excess of crude fatty acid distillate which they can give me with the following specifications : Free Fatty Acid (As Lauric) - 71.8% Iodine Value mg I/g - 10 Total Fatty Matter- 96% Moisture Impurities - 0.5% Saponifiable Value mg KOH/g - 260 Unsaponifiable Matter- 0.32% I am now doing some small production for my own use with a blend of WVO and new oil on the single stage process. I've read up on the two stage process and it looks like the above will take a two stage process with 71.8% FFA. Am I right? Anyone out there with some thoughts on the matter? Its free stuff for me although its only about 200liters monthly. Would it be better to blend it or process it separately? Thanks Ken ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Crude fatty acid distillate
No, if you are working with 100% free fatty acids, you will have to do the ACID esterification twice with water content evapoation inbetween With best regards AGERATEC AB Jan Warnqvist. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Crude fatty acid distillate Thanks Jan, So you are saying that Aleks Kac's two stage process is the way to go on this one? Start with the acid-based stage and finish with the base-based stage. That's doing it twice right? Am doing small batches on the single stage base process (about 100 liters veg. oil). Will blending this with new veg. oil make a difference? Been reading the Foolproof Method over and over again to familiarize myself. Looks like it. Much thanks again. Ken - Original Message - From: Jan Warnqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Crude fatty acid distillate Hello Ken, fatty acids are possible to esterify with an acid catalyst. The formed water has to be drawn off, so it is always nice to start with a low water content. Performed correctly, the esterification will produce 90-95% esters. Usually these kinds of reactions are performed twice for a good conversion grade. With best regards AGERATEC AB Jan Warnqvist - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Crude fatty acid distillate Hi everyone, I sent this out a few days ago. I was told by someone in the oil mill that crude fatty acid distillate is just a fancy name for their seconds or reject oils, which soap factories take from them and make into soap. Anyone has any experience with this kind of stock being made into biodiesel? Will such a high FFA content give problems? Thanks. Ken - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:15 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Crude fatty acid distillate Hi everyone, An oil mill has just told me that they have excess of crude fatty acid distillate which they can give me with the following specifications : Free Fatty Acid (As Lauric) - 71.8% Iodine Value mg I/g - 10 Total Fatty Matter- 96% Moisture Impurities - 0.5% Saponifiable Value mg KOH/g - 260 Unsaponifiable Matter- 0.32% I am now doing some small production for my own use with a blend of WVO and new oil on the single stage process. I've read up on the two stage process and it looks like the above will take a two stage process with 71.8% FFA. Am I right? Anyone out there with some thoughts on the matter? Its free stuff for me although its only about 200liters monthly. Would it be better to blend it or process it separately? Thanks Ken ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):
Re: [Biofuel] DISTILLERY DEMAND FOR GRAIN TO FUEL CARSVASTLY UNDERSTATED
Yeah John that the problem We adore them Maybe it's because we don't want to change Sustainability will not come thru technology But thru cultural change Leo John Beale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, Monsanto: how we adore thee. On Jan 19, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Marylynn Schmidt wrote: Yes, but does Monsanto own the patient on sugar beets??? Mary Lynn Mary Lynn Schmidt, distributor Psionic Energy Software http://miracle6bizland.com/softwaresolutions/ Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART: Facilitator/Consultant for Alternative Healing Modalities and Practitioner utilizing various modalities which can include TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . THE ANIMAL CONNECTION HEALING MODALITIES http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ From: Joe Street Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] DISTILLERY DEMAND FOR GRAIN TO FUEL CARSVASTLY UNDERSTATED Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:57:29 -0500 I think sugar beets are a better bet for use in ethanol production than corn. Joe Zeke Yewdall wrote: Now, using corn for fueling cars does sound like a lousy idea, but not because it might increase corn prices. Considering that corn now sells for only about two thirds of what it costs to grow it, I don't see this is such a bad thing. Maybe farmers around the world could support themselves again? And perhaps if economics had any effect on farms they'd be tempted to shift to better crops, instead of monocropping corn as a subsidized chemical plant input. The corn economy in the US is so messed up and bizzare, I don't know that I can support using corn for anything anymore, let alone ethanol. On 1/18/07, *Frantz DESPREZ* wrote: January 4, 2007 - 1 Copyright © 2007 Earth Policy Institute DISTILLERY DEMAND FOR GRAIN TO FUEL CARS VASTLY UNDERSTATED World May Be Facing Highest Grain Prices in History Lester R. Brown Investment in fuel ethanol distilleries has soared since the late-2005 oil price hikes, but data collection in this fast-changing sector has fallen behind. Because of inadequate data collection on the number of new plants under construction, the quantity of grain that will be needed for fuel ethanol distilleries has been vastly understated. Farmers, feeders, food processors, ethanol investors, and grain-importing countries are basing decisions on incomplete data. The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) projects that distilleries will require only 60 million tons of corn from the 2008 harvest. But here at the Earth Policy Institute (EPI), we estimate that distilleries will need 139 million tonsmore than twice as much. If the EPI estimate is at all close to the mark, the emerging competition between cars and people for grain will likely drive world grain prices to levels never seen before. The key questions are: How high will grain prices rise? When will the crunch come? And what will be the worldwide effect of rising food prices? One reason for the low USDA projection is that it was released in February 2006, well before the effect of surging oil prices on investment in fuel ethanol distilleries was fully apparent. Beyond this, USDA relies heavily on the Renewable Fuels Association (RFA), a trade group, for data on ethanol distilleries under construction, but the RFA data have lagged behind movement in the industry. We drew on four firms that collect and publish data on U.S. ethanol distilleries under construction. RFA is the one most frequently cited. The other three firms are Europe-based F.O. Licht, the publisher of World Ethanol and Biofuels Report; BBI International, which publishes Ethanol Producer Magazine; and the American Coalition for Ethanol (ACE), publisher of Ethanol Today. Unfortunately, the lists of plants under construction maintained by RFA, BBI, and ACE are not complete. Each contains some plants that are not on the other lists. Drawing on these three lists and on biweekly reports from F.O. Licht, EPI has compiled a more complete master list. For example, while we show 79 plants under construction, RFA lists 62 plants. (We welcome any information that will improve this list, which can be viewed at www.earthpolicy.org/Updates/2007/Update63_data.htm .) According to the EPI compilation, the 116 plants in production on December 31, 2006, were using 53 million tons of grain per year, while the 79 plants under constructionmostly larger facilitieswill use 51 million tons of grain when they come
Re: [Biofuel] DISTILLERY DEMAND FOR GRAIN TO FUEL CARSVASTLY UNDERSTATED
Very good Mary Lynn There are other plants that can produce energy But they wher outlawed in the 1930's Leo Marylynn Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but does Monsanto own the patient on sugar beets??? Mary Lynn Mary Lynn Schmidt, distributor Psionic Energy Software http://miracle6bizland.com/softwaresolutions/ Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART: Facilitator/Consultant for Alternative Healing Modalities and Practitioner utilizing various modalities which can include TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . THE ANIMAL CONNECTION HEALING MODALITIES http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ From: Joe Street Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] DISTILLERY DEMAND FOR GRAIN TO FUEL CARSVASTLY UNDERSTATED Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:57:29 -0500 I think sugar beets are a better bet for use in ethanol production than corn. Joe Zeke Yewdall wrote: Now, using corn for fueling cars does sound like a lousy idea, but not because it might increase corn prices. Considering that corn now sells for only about two thirds of what it costs to grow it, I don't see this is such a bad thing. Maybe farmers around the world could support themselves again? And perhaps if economics had any effect on farms they'd be tempted to shift to better crops, instead of monocropping corn as a subsidized chemical plant input. The corn economy in the US is so messed up and bizzare, I don't know that I can support using corn for anything anymore, let alone ethanol. On 1/18/07, *Frantz DESPREZ* wrote: January 4, 2007 - 1 Copyright © 2007 Earth Policy Institute DISTILLERY DEMAND FOR GRAIN TO FUEL CARS VASTLY UNDERSTATED World May Be Facing Highest Grain Prices in History Lester R. Brown Investment in fuel ethanol distilleries has soared since the late-2005 oil price hikes, but data collection in this fast-changing sector has fallen behind. Because of inadequate data collection on the number of new plants under construction, the quantity of grain that will be needed for fuel ethanol distilleries has been vastly understated. Farmers, feeders, food processors, ethanol investors, and grain-importing countries are basing decisions on incomplete data. The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) projects that distilleries will require only 60 million tons of corn from the 2008 harvest. But here at the Earth Policy Institute (EPI), we estimate that distilleries will need 139 million tonsmore than twice as much. If the EPI estimate is at all close to the mark, the emerging competition between cars and people for grain will likely drive world grain prices to levels never seen before. The key questions are: How high will grain prices rise? When will the crunch come? And what will be the worldwide effect of rising food prices? One reason for the low USDA projection is that it was released in February 2006, well before the effect of surging oil prices on investment in fuel ethanol distilleries was fully apparent. Beyond this, USDA relies heavily on the Renewable Fuels Association (RFA), a trade group, for data on ethanol distilleries under construction, but the RFA data have lagged behind movement in the industry. We drew on four firms that collect and publish data on U.S. ethanol distilleries under construction. RFA is the one most frequently cited. The other three firms are Europe-based F.O. Licht, the publisher of World Ethanol and Biofuels Report; BBI International, which publishes Ethanol Producer Magazine; and the American Coalition for Ethanol (ACE), publisher of Ethanol Today. Unfortunately, the lists of plants under construction maintained by RFA, BBI, and ACE are not complete. Each contains some plants that are not on the other lists. Drawing on these three lists and on biweekly reports from F.O. Licht, EPI has compiled a more complete master list. For example, while we show 79 plants under construction, RFA lists 62 plants. (We welcome any information that will improve this list, which can be viewed at www.earthpolicy.org/Updates/2007/Update63_data.htm .) According to the EPI compilation, the 116 plants in production on December 31, 2006, were using 53 million tons of grain per year, while the 79 plants under constructionmostly larger facilitieswill use 51 million tons of grain when they come online. Expansions of 11 existing plants will use another 8 million tons of grain (1 ton of corn = 39.4 bushels = 110 gallons of ethanol). In addition, easily 200 ethanol
Re: [Biofuel] I.D. Cards and Rifers
Hi D and any Amerikan who recognizes they don't have time to waste watching their brothers and sisters throw up on themselves...I've included below the portion of the bill passed by both Houses of the US Congress in May, 2005, known as the Real ID Act. It goes into effect in May, 2008. Read it and weep or better yet use the Internet for something useful: first, call, write or email your Senator (if he or she survived the recent elections) and tell the fool thanks for selling you down the tubes (all Senators voted for this); next, find out if your House Rep voted for this (http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll031.xml), then either call, write or email to congratulate him or her for voting Nay and ask what activity is in the works to rescind this portion of the bill. Get an answer...a commitment. LOL...good luck. If your Rep voted for it, chances are he or she got busted in the most recent elections and you have a newbie to rake over the coals about what he or she is going to do about having this piece of legislation rescinded. Something else to do, and perhaps even more importantly, contact your State Reps to find out what they are doing in your State to reject Real ID. Posting any other constructive, proactive ideas along these lines would be greatly appreciated. Otherwise--Good luck...and good night. Mike DuPree PS There's a twist to all this. See: http://www.unrealid.com/ The Department of Homeland Security plans to outsource REAL ID implementation to third-party data aggregators, according to official DHS documents...What does this all mean? Quite simply, this is the outsourcing of our Constitutional rights. It means that all privacy protections on our drivers license data will be removed once the DMV sends your data to the private corporation. If it's possible to create a scheme worse than a national ID card, this is it: a privatized National ID card. The citizens of every state will not only be at the mercy of a company like ChoicePoint or Acxiom to 'approve' their identity, but will have no privacy protections whatsoever on that data. Your sensitive drivers license data can be bought and sold along with everything else these companies sell, such as your credit information. The federal government can then gain access to this information without having to comply with any laws, such as the Privacy Act. DHS is granting the right to control our identity to private industry...Congress needs to take immediate action to stop this travesty. Now, I haven't verified the above. Maybe this is just some website using misinformation to sell itself. However, if you Google Outsourcing Real ID Act Implementation, you will find other documentation to this effect. So while you're on the phone or writing or emailing your US House Rep (and maybe your Senator, especially if he or she is a newbie, but even incumbents may have found a renewed sense of willingness for keeping Big Brother at bay...ok, you're sorry you said thanks fool but that was just to even the score. Here's the Senator's chance for redemption), please inform them how this legislation may be being outsourced to private industry. Inform State Reps of same. After you've taken the time to do the above, then watch the idiot videos and feel good about the fact you just might be helping save not only a nation of slobs for another day of slobdom, but especially your own freedom to choose whether or not (no, when) you want to be a slob too. H.R.1268 Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act for Defense, the Global War on Terror, and Tsunami Relief, 2005 (Enrolled as Agreed to or Passed by Both House and Senate) TITLE II--IMPROVED SECURITY FOR DRIVERS' LICENSES AND PERSONAL IDENTIFICATION CARDS SEC. 201. DEFINITIONS. In this title, the following definitions apply: (1) DRIVER'S LICENSE- The term `driver's license' means a motor vehicle operator's license, as defined in section 30301 of title 49, United States Code. (2) IDENTIFICATION CARD- The term `identification card' means a personal identification card, as defined in section 1028(d) of title 18, United States Code, issued by a State. (3) OFFICIAL PURPOSE- The term `official purpose' includes but is not limited to accessing Federal facilities, boarding federally regulated commercial aircraft, entering nuclear power plants, and any other purposes that the Secretary shall determine. (4) SECRETARY- The term `Secretary' means the Secretary of Homeland Security. (5) STATE- The term `State' means a State of the United States, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa, the Northern Mariana Islands, the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands, and any other territory or possession of the United States. SEC. 202. MINIMUM DOCUMENT REQUIREMENTS AND ISSUANCE STANDARDS FOR FEDERAL RECOGNITION.
[Biofuel] Ethanol Boom Cheers Grain Farmers, Pinches Food Makers
Ethanol Boom Cheers Grain Farmers, Pinches Food Makers By Lauren Etter, Ilan Brat and Steven GrayWall Street Journal January 18, 2007 The surge in corn prices ignited by the ethanol boom is rippling through the nation's economy --- from the Farm Belt to Wall Street to the office soda machine. The price of corn, the nation's No. 1 crop in total production, and an ingredient in products ranging from sugary syrups to chicken feed to tortillas, has doubled since this time last year to $3.66 a bushel, despite an abundant harvest, and is inching toward the rarely breached $4-a-bushel mark. - The Issue: The ethanol boom that has sent corn prices soaring is now rippling through the economy. - The Debate: Whether increased fuel-ethanol production is worth the economic cost of higher food prices. - What's Next: If corn prices stay high, producers of such products as meat, packaged foods and soda may have to raise prices further. Driving the run-up is an unprecedented demand for ethanol, a biofuel typically made from corn that many policy makers are counting on to help wean the nation away from foreign oil. President Bush is expected to intensify demand by calling for yet more production in his State of the Union address next week. The new demand has much of the agricultural economy humming. As corn rallies, farmers, emboldened by the higher prices or planning to switch to corn or expand their acreage, are buying new farm equipment from makers like Deere Co. and CNH Global NV's Case IH. They are spending more on seed from giants like Monsanto Co. and DuPont Co. and fertilizer from companies like Mosaic Co. Meanwhile, big food companies like Tyson Foods Inc., the giant chicken processor, and ketchup maker H.J. Heinz Co. are feeling the pinch. Bottlers of Coca-Cola Co. and PepsiCo Inc. soft drinks are raising prices, partly to offset the rising price of high-fructose corn syrup, the dominant sweetener in sodas. At the center of the tumult, ethanol manufacturers like Archer-Daniels-Midland Co. are caught between the combination of rising corn prices and falling oil prices, which make ethanol less attractive. Though ethanol benefits from tax breaks and other subsidies, those incentives generally go to the companies that blend it with gasoline to make motor fuel, rather than to ethanol producers. As corn prices rise, farmers are racing to cash in. Leon Corzine in Assumption, Illinois, is planting 95% corn on his 3,000-acre farm this year, up from 50% in 2002. The prices he now gets for corn are well above the $2 to $3 a bushel he has come to expect. Largely as a result, he has spent $300,000 on trucks, tractors and grain storage. Last year, Mr. Corzine built an additional grain-storage unit, an investment equivalent to about $1.50 per bushel of corn. With corn prices up, he has already recouped that investment. I paid for that grain storage in one year, says Mr. Corzine. That's very unusual. At H R Agri Power Inc., a Case IH dealer with five locations in Kentucky, orders for combines --- the giant machines that help harvest the corn --- shot up 54% from a year earlier in the last three months of 2006, and tractor orders climbed 25%, says President Wayne Hunt. Just this week, two groups of farmers came to an H R dealer to explore buying combines for the cotton fields they are switching to corn, he says. The increased demand for corn is also driving up sales of nitrogen fertilizer, which corn requires in heavy doses. Mr. Hunt estimates nitrogen fertilizer sales at his eight Kentucky farm-supply stores this year will climb 10% to 12% from 2006. We think agriculture's future looks pretty bright right now, says Mr. Hunt. Corn prices set their current record of $5.50 a bushel in 1996 as prices soared in response to a supply shortage caused by lower production and stronger export demand. The average price of corn from that year's crop was $3.24 a bushel --- also a record. Today's high prices, by contrast, follow a 2006 corn harvest that the Agriculture Department last week estimated at 10.5 billion bushels. That is down slightly from the previous year's crop, but it is still the third-largest on record. Even so, the average price for the 2006 corn crop is expected to reach $3.20 a bushel. With more ethanol plants under construction, demand for corn is expected to increase in the years ahead. Ethanol production totaled about 4.9 billion gallons last year, up from 3.9 billion the year before, according to the Renewable Fuels Association, the trade organization representing the ethanol industry. Next year, production is expected to reach more than six billion gallons. Corn's rally has been a headache for the livestock industry, which consumes nearly 60% of the U.S. corn crop. Pork-production costs have increased 25% from last year, according to Ronald Plain, an agricultural economist at the University of Missouri-Columbia. At the end of last
[Biofuel] House Bill May Pump Billions More Into Biofuels
Meanwhile, however... http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/39932/story.htm FACTBOX - Highlights of Bush Environment Programs US: January 22, 2007 WASHINGTON - These are the highlights of US programs announced in the last year aimed at reducing US dependence on foreign sources of oil, as detailed by the White House and the federal Energy Department. -- US$1 billion in tax credits to promote clean coal technologies; -- US$450 million over 10 years to demonstrate carbon sequestration technologies, such as burying carbon dioxide underground; -- US$235 million to design, build and demonstrate a clean, coal-fired power plant -- US$100 million for research and development of hydrogen fuel cells; -- US$60 million for computational science projects aimed at accelerating research on new materials, developing future energy sources, studying global climate change and improving environmental cleanup. Most of these programs are part of the US$2.1 billion Advanced Energy Initiative announced after President George W. Bush's 2006 State of the Union address, in which he said America is addicted to oil, and that dependency could be ended by developing new technologies. The Energy Department's total budget for fiscal 2007 is US$23.5 billion. REUTERS NEWS SERVICE --- House Bill May Pump Billions More Into Biofuels By Phlip Brasher Des Moines Register January 20, 2007 Billions of dollars could be available for new alternative energy sources, including ethanol made from crop residue and grasses, under a bill Democrats have pushed through the House. The measure would roll back oil-industry subsidies, raising as much as $15 billion, and would set aside the money for biofuels and other alternative energy sources such as wind and solar. The move was applauded by the ethanol industry, even though it's not clear the measure will become law. Bob Dineen, president of the Renewable Fuels Association, said money should be put into grants and loan guarantees already authorized by Congress to build biorefineries that can convert sources of plant cellulose, such as residue from corn plants, into ethanol. Congress could provide the kind of jump-start to cellulosic ethanol production that was envisioned when these programs were passed, Dineen said. The House bill faces an uncertain fate in the Senate and President Bush is strongly opposed to it. In a policy statement on the House-passed bill, the White House said it strongly opposes the tax-and-spend philosophy embodied in the plan to take money from oil companies to fund alternative energy. Iowa Sen. Charles Grassley, the top Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, called the House bill a campaign gimmick that would discourage domestic oil production and increase the cost of fuel and fertilizer. But the bill brought new attention to biofuels, even as the president prepared to deliver a State of the Union message Tuesday that will likely focus attention on alternative energy and climate change. Bush is expected to endorse the Energy Department's goal for the country to produce 60 billion gallons of ethanol by 2030, displacing 30% of current gasoline usage. That would be about four times the amount of ethanol DOE expects to be made from corn, which is now the primary feedstock for the fuel. It's a huge number, said Brent Erickson, a vice president of the Biotechnology Industry Organization. His group hasn't drawn up a list of priorities for spending the money that the House bill would provide, but would want the funds earmarked for development of biofuels and biochemicals. We're cautiously optimistic, but there may be other legislative barriers to the bill, he said. There is growing pressure from environment groups and some business interests to encourage the development of renewable energy both to reduce the import and use of petroleum and to control climate change. Lawmakers also have introduced numerous bills to subsidize and require the increased use of biofuels. Sen. Tom Harkin, the Iowa Democrat who chairs the Senate Agriculture Committee, says renewable energy will be a major focus of a new farm bill to be enacted this year. The Sierra Club, the National Audubon Society and 14 other environmental groups issued a statement Friday calling for the nation to reduce oil use by 25% by 2025 through energy efficiency, biofuels and other alternatives. The new chairman of the House agricultural appropriations subcommittee, Rosa DeLauro, Dem.-Connecticut, told reporters Friday she would be looking at ways to increase spending on alternative energy. It offers incredible promise to the rural economy, she said. Her panel controls the budget of the U.S. Agriculture Department. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
Re: [Biofuel] DISTILLERY DEMAND FOR GRAIN TO FUEL CARS VASTLY UNDERSTATED
Hi Irv Cost Of Corn Soars, Forcing Mexico To Set Price Limits By James C. McKinley Jr.New York Times January 19, 2007 MEXICO CITY, Mexico --- Facing public outrage over the soaring price of tortillas, President Felipe Calderón abandoned his free-trade principles on Thursday and forced producers to sign an agreement fixing prices for corn products. Skyrocketing prices for corn on the world market have pushed up the price of the humble tortilla, the mainstay of the Mexican diet, by nearly a third in the past three weeks, to 35 cents a pound in Mexico City and even higher in other parts of the country. Half of the country's 107 million people live on $4 a day or less, and many of them survive largely on tortillas and beans. The price increases have riled the public to such an extent that it has created a political storm that threatens to swamp Mr. Calderón's fresh presidency. This month, the president, who took office in December, was booed and heckled at events around the country over food prices. Mexican lawmakers called on him to impose price controls, while leftist opposition leaders suggested that he was protecting giant corn companies. One editorial cartoonist depicted him falling from a tower as tortillas flew upward like birds. Even members of Mr. Calderón's own conservative party in Congress called on him this week to do something quickly. Last week, the president tried to contain the crisis by allowing more corn imports from the United States and ordering an investigation into whether corn distributors were colluding to manipulate prices. But the public outcry continued, and the central bank warned that the rise in corn prices would push the price of other staples up and feed inflation. On Thursday morning, Mr. Calderón, a fierce advocate of free trade in last year's campaign, let the hammer fall. He announced that he had reached an agreement with the major businesses involved in corn products to stabilize the price of tortillas at a maximum of about 35 cents a pound. He also fixed the price of cornmeal sold to mom-and-pop tortilla shops at 14 cents a pound and announced that government-owned shops in rural areas would sell tortillas at the same price, far below the market rate. We will not tolerate speculators and monopolists, he said. We are going to apply the law firmly and punish anyone who tries to take advantage of the needs of people. There is a continuing debate here about what caused the price of tortillas to shoot up so quickly. Some economists blame the increased demand for corn from ethanol plants in the United States, and it is true corn prices in the States last week reached their highest point in a decade, the United States Agriculture Department said. At the same time, the cost of white corn has risen about 13% here over the past year, Mexican government figures show. But Mexican lawmakers and other officials have suggested that giant tortilla companies and corn flour distributors --- among them Grupo Maseca S.A. and Maíz Industrializado S.A., often known as Minsa --- have taken advantage of the situation, hoarding supplies to drive prices up even more. The central bank governor, Guillermo Ortíz, said last week that the steep rise in tortilla prices could not be justified when inflation over the past year had been about four percent. We clearly have a problem of speculation, he said. On Thursday morning, President Calderón extracted promises from several large companies to freeze prices. Wal-Mart and other large retailers promised to keep their tortilla price at 27 cents a pound, while Grupo Maseca, also known as Gruma, agreed to lock in corn flour prices at 21 cents a pound and sell tortillas at no more than 35 cents a pound. The spike in corn prices has hurt small storefront tortilla makers, a hallmark of the Mexican street. José Solano, a 27-year-old tortilla maker in Mexico City, said he had lost about 40% of his business since early January, when he was forced to start raising his prices. People are still buying tortillas, but many of them buy less, he said. Look, we can't give our product away because we need a profit, and if they raise the cost of corn, there's no other way. The crisis has hit hardest for the poorest Mexicans, who may spend more than a quarter of their daily salaries on tortillas. This really affects my budget, the expenses of my family, because I cannot tell my kids to eat less, said Ruth Soria, a 37-year-old housewife, who was buying four pounds of tortillas for her six children on Thursday. This is something that they must control well. The tortilla is something basic for us. What the government did today is the least they could do. Whew price of torteas in mexico has just gone up now that the US is no longer exporting cheap corn to mexico. I t may encourage Mexican farmers to grow more corn. Irv *
[Biofuel] Reject Real ID Act...Sample Letter
I've included below a sample letter, you may want to use to write to your Federal and State Representatives regarding Real ID. If you need help finding out who are your Reps or with any information regarding Real ID, please email me. Mike - Original Message - From: MK DuPree To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 7:55 AM Subject: Reject Real ID Act Dear Senator Francisco...in May, 2005, the US Congress passed HR 1268, which included Title II--Improved Security for Drivers' Licenses and Personal Identification Cards, otherwise known as the Real ID Act. I hope you are familiar with it. If not, I'd be more than happy to send along a copy of this section of the bill. I am also wondering if you are aware that the implementation of this act may be outsourced to private industry? If this happens, it will allow private industry and the federal government to gain access to personal information without having to comply with any laws, such as the Privacy Act. Again, I'd be more than happy to send along whatever documentation I can find along these lines if you need it. Otherwise, I have two questions: 1) what are you doing to help Kansas reject Real ID? and 2) if there is no hope for rejection, what are you doing to help Kansas help the U.S. Dept of Homeland Security maintain implementation of Real ID within the Dept of Homeland Security? Thanks for your help. Mike DuPree 2000 Kentucky Lawrence, KS 66046 785-843-2951___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] ESCALATION AGAINST IRAN
http://www.ichblog.eu/content/view/60/1/ The Unthinkable: The US- Israeli Nuclear War on Iran Monday, 22 January 2007 By Michel Chossudovsky The World is at the crossroads of the most serious crisis in modern history. The US has embarked on a military adventure, a long war, which threatens the future of humanity. At no point since the first atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima on August 6th, 1945, has humanity been closer to the unthinkable, a nuclear holocaust which could potentially spread, in terms of radioactive fallout, over a large part of the Middle East. There is mounting evidence that the Bush Administration in liaison with Israel and NATO is planning the launching of a nuclear war against Iran, ironically, in retaliation for its nonexistent nuclear weapons program. The US-Israeli military operation is said to be in an advanced state of readiness. If such a plan were to be launched, the war would escalate and eventually engulf the entire Middle-East Central Asian region. The war could extend beyond the region, as some analysts have suggested, ultimately leading us into a World War III scenario. In this regard, the structure of military alliances is crucial. China and Russia have entered into farreaching military cooperation agreements with Iran. The latter have a direct bearing on the conflict. Iran possesses an advanced air defense system as well as capabilities to target US and allied positions in Iraq and the Gulf States, as demonstrated in recent military exercises. The US-led naval deployment (involving a massive deployment of military hardware) is taking place in two distinct theaters:the Persian Gulf and the Eastern Mediterranean. The militarization of the Eastern Mediterranean is broadly under the jurisdiction of NATO in liaison with Israel. Directed against Syria, it is conducted under the façade of a UN peace-keeping mission. In this context, the war on Lebanon last Summer must be viewed as a stage of the broader US sponsored military road-map. The naval armada in the Persian Gulf is largely under US command, with the participation of Canada. The naval buildup is coordinated with the air attacks. The planning of aerial bombings of Iran started in mid-2004, pursuant to the formulation of CONPLAN 8022 in early 2004. In May 2004, National Security Presidential Directive NSPD 35 entitled Nuclear Weapons Deployment Authorization was issued. While its contents remain classified, the presumption is that NSPD 35 pertains to the stockpiling and deployment of tactical nuclear weapons in the Middle East war theater in compliance with CONPLAN 8022. Despite Pentagon statements which describe tactical nuclear weapons as safe for the surrounding civilian population, the use of nukes in a conventional war theater would trigger a nuclear holocaust.The resulting radioactive contamination, which threatens future generations, would by no means be limited to the Middle East. In 2005, Vice President Dick Cheney is reported to have instructed USSTRATCOM to draw up a contingency plan to be employed in response to another 9/11-type terrorist attack on the United States. The presumption was that if such a 9/11 type event were to take place, Iran would, according to Cheney, be behind it, thereby providing a pretext for punitive bombings, much in the same way as the US sponsored attacks on Afghanistan in October 2001, allegedly in retribution for the alleged support of the Taliban government to the 9/11 terrorists More recently, several analysts have focussed on the creation of a Gulf of Tonkin incident, which would be used by the Bush administration as a pretext to wage war on Iran. We bring to the attention of our readers a selection of Global Research articles, which document various aspects of US-Israeli war preparations. It is essential that this information reaches the broader public. We invite our subscribers and readers to distribute and forward these articles far and wide. To reverse the tide of war requires a massive campaign of networking and outreach to inform people across the land, nationally and internationally, in neighborhoods, workplaces, parishes, schools, universities, municipalities, on the dangers of a US sponsored war which contemplates the use of nuclear weapons. The message should be loud and clear: It is not Iran which is a threat to global security but the United States of America and Israel. Debate and discussion must also take place within the Military and Intelligence community, particularly with regard to the use of tactical nuclear weapons, within the corridors of the US Congress, in municipalities and at all levels of government. Ultimately, the legitimacy of the political and military actors in high office must be challenged. There seems to be a reluctance by members of Congress to exercise their powers under the US Constitution, with a view to preventing the unthinkable: the onslaught of a
Re: [Biofuel] Ethanol use has Environmental Downsides
Brazilian cane mills are also powered by leftover cane stalks that heat caldrons to generate steam and electric energy, an extra advantage that corn and wheat don't have. Uh... why not? If you are just using the seeds of the corn (which is stupid enough, true), what about the whole rest of the corn plant? Z ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] 6 stroke motor
i think weve seen his 6 cycle work before, but i dont remember anything about steam, maybe a new experiment in the series? - Original Message - From: robert and benita rabello To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 12:37 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] 6 stroke motor Kirk McLoren wrote: http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060227/FREE/302270007/1023/THISWEEKSISSUE Bruce Crower is about as credible as they come. He's not the only person to have thought of this, but if he can make it work, I'm sure it DOES work! robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice The Long Journey New Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.431 / Virus Database: 268.17.3/642 - Release Date: 1/20/2007 10:31 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.431 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/648 - Release Date: 1/23/2007 11:04 AM ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Ethanol Boom Cheers Grain Farmers, Pinches Food Makers
this just means that farmers wont be able to afford feeding their animals CORN and be forced to graze pastures again. better meat and healthier animals, not too bad i guess... -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.431 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/648 - Release Date: 1/23/2007 11:04 AM ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Sorry State of the Union
stopping earmarks might be good, but how would they fund the military? 15000$ tax cut for buying insurance? SWEET! whats the catch?? oh wait... it has to be private, not a benefit. (how about capping medical fees at less than a quarter of present cost?) ...double the border patrol but make it easier to get in? huh?? (i smell an oxymoron- no, wait, just a moron) oooh energy reform...rght. clean coal, solar, wind, and nuke? wont the coal alone offset the solar and wind power (i wont even get into nuke right now)? EV cars, BD hybrids, cellulosic ethanol. 20% in ten years? fuel standards? your joking right? technologies that have been around for decades arent considered breakthroughs anymore after the first five years. more war on terror take it to the enemy crap, so how many clueless kids got arrested this time?? preaching threats, overthrowing moderate governments, destroying with bombs? did he practice this in a mirror or write it in a mirror? Iraq is not a country, it is an imperial protectorate that should have dissolved into its three constituent kingdoms after the old empire lost control of it, i say let it go. it will be messy, yes, but it will take much less time and pain for all involved than the u$ trying to keep Iraq together. Iraq is not a feasible threat- it never was, and it most likely never will be. feed the world he says- why not stop feeding them crap and let people grow something they can live on?? ok, i give him credit for promoting the child safety and betterment gig, but i still dont quite buy the american compassion thing. and for my final rant- 61 applauses for him? why dont they just let him talk, it would be so much shorter and so much less psychologically painful to the public. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.431 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/648 - Release Date: 1/23/2007 11:04 AM ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] What Iraqis Want
The Iraqi people have multicultural tensions -- especially between Shia and Sunni groups. Perhaps this plan is the beginning of a national identity which will allow them to be a peacefully independent nation. See http://www.progressivegovernment.org/page.php?name=reconciliation for the full article. Iraq Reconciliation Plan *Editor's note:**Published 10/10/06 by Dal LaMagna from video footage edited by Benjamin Ernst, text edited by Beverly Marcus, translation by Raed Jarrar and Aseel Albanna. No copyright, please distribute* *Overview and Purpose* The Iraq Reconciliation Plan resulted from a meeting of U.S. peace activists, led by Medea Benjamin and Raed Jarrar of Global Exchange and Jodie Evans and Gael Murphy of CODEPINK, with Iraqi members of Parliament (MPs), sheiks, and torture survivors. The Iraqi MPs represented 185 (130 Shia, 44 Sunni, 11 secular) of 275 members of Iraq's Parliament. The meetings were held in Amman, Jordan, on August 2-3, 2006. * * *The Reconciliation Plan documents how the Iraqis, in their own words, propose to solve their country's crisis. *The Plan consists of 10 key points, captured via extensive interviews with the Iraqi participants. Included here are: - The list of 10 Reconciliation Plan points voiced by Iraqi participants with links to video and transcript. - A list of all meeting participants, along with their affiliations and photographs. - A section on each point that provides relevant supporting quotations, identified by source. All quotations are from videotapes of the meeting. They are presented unedited, as translated. To download a PDF version of the document, click herehttp://progressivegovernment.org/page.php?name=reconpdf . To read transcripts of the conversations, click herehttp://progressivegovernment.org/page.php?name=recontranscripts . To view video of all the conversations on one webpage, click herehttp://progressivegovernment.org/page.php?name=allvideos. -- *Iraq Reconciliation Plan: Ten Points* 1. *End the occupation of Iraq. *Video and transcript of Point 1http://progressivegovernment.org/page.php?name=R1 2. *Create a timetable for the withdrawal of American troops that is synchronized with the implementation of the Iraq reconciliation plan. *Video and transcript of Point 2http://progressivegovernment.org/page.php?name=R2 3. *Disband the militias created after the occupation. *Video and transcript of Point 3 http://progressivegovernment.org/page.php?name=R3 4. *Revise Bremer's Orders and allow the Iraqis to rebuild their army* *. *Video and transcript of Point 4 http://progressivegovernment.org/page.php?name=R4 5. *Rewrite the Iraqi Constitution. *Video and transcript of Point 5 http://progressivegovernment.org/page.php?name=R5 6. *Keep Iraq as one state and do not partition into multiple states. *Video and transcript of Point 6 http://progressivegovernment.org/page.php?name=R6 7. *Begin the promised reconstruction of Iraq. Employ Iraqis and not foreign workers or contractors. *Video and transcript of Point 7 http://progressivegovernment.org/page.php?name=R7 8. *Acknowledge Iraqis' right to resist the U.S. occupation, negotiate with the resistance, and give amnesty to Iraqis resisting the occupation. *Video and transcript of Point 8 http://progressivegovernment.org/page.php?name=R8 9. *Investigate all the crimes that were committed by the new Iraqi Government and by the occupation forces in Iraq. *Video and transcript of Point 9 http://progressivegovernment.org/page.php?name=R9 10. *Make a fair distribution of oil income and natural resources. *Video and transcript of Point 10 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Curing Cancer: A Patent Impossibility
http://www.lewrockwell.com/walker/walker24.html Curing Cancer: A Patent Impossibility by Bill Walker DIGG THIS The good news this month is that a Canadian team under Dr. Michelakis at the University of Ottawa has discovered that a simple, inexpensive chemical is a powerful anticancer agent, effective against a broad range of cancers. (Read their paper in the January Cancer Cell, subscription required). The bad news is that it is a simple, inexpensive chemical long used in medicine, and is not patentable. Thus there is no mechanism for getting the chemical (dichloroacetate, DCA) past the billion-dollar barrier of FDA approval. (The FDA actually only approved 17 drugs last year, and the drug industry spent 40 billion dollars on RD). Scientists have known since 1930 that cancer cells use glycolysis instead of aerobic respiration for energy. In other words, they don't turn on their mitochondria and burn their glucose with oxygen, as do normal cells; they just convert it to lactic acid. While glycolysis provides about fifteen times less energy per blood sugar molecule, it works under the oxygen-deprived conditions inside early tumors. It also has the advantage of bypassing the mitochondria entirely, which allows the cancer cells to suppress the cell's self-destruct mechanisms. DCA forces the cell to turn on its mitochondria. This was the primary medical use of DCA in the past, to treat patients with rare metabolic deficiencies. For a normal cell, being forced to turn on mitochondria isn't such a big deal. they're already on. But for a cancer cell, the mitochondria are time bombs. When the cancer's mitochondria turn on, they run out of control, creating high hydrogen peroxide levels inside the mitochondria. This leads to a cascade of chemical reactions that eventually activates two different self-destruct (apoptosis) pathways in the cell. The ability to reactivate self-destruction is one of the holy grails of cancer research. There are other approaches to induce apoptosis in cancer cells, and perhaps some of them would actually work if they were combined with DCA. Also, even if it is eventually found that cancer can mutate and develop DCA resistance, the long period of regression could allow newer but slow anticancer concepts (such as telomerase inhibition) to finish off the remaining cancer cells. So far Dr. Michelakis has demonstrated the effectiveness of DCA against various human cancer cell lines in a cell culture, and against human tumors growing on immune-suppressed rats. The drug has already been tested on human beings for many years as a treatment for a genetic enzyme deficiency. There are millions of terminal cancer victims on this planet. So, logically, the next step would be to find some volunteers and start trying to find the optimum human dose range, combinations of other apoptosis inducers that work synergistically with DCA, supplements to reduce side effects, etc. Logically in our libertarian minds, perhaps. In the real world, nothing of the kind will happen. The FDA will not allow people in the orderly and profitable process of agonizing death by incurable cancers to try nonapproved drugs. No drug company, no matter how large, can afford to spend a billion dollars and 19 years getting a nonpatentable treatment through the bureaucratic minefield. There is no FDA-approved way to get there from here. Someday a dedicated medical team working beyond the reach of the FDA (perhaps in Mainland China, which already contains numerous clinics that cater to foreign medical refugees) will defeat cancer1. In the intervening years or decades, terminal cancer patients in the US will be restricted to the same old patent medicines. Note If you're a dedicated medical team working beyond the reach of the FDA, the rats in the study were given the same dose of DCA as human patients with enzyme disorders, 50-100 milligrams of drug per kilogram of body weight, dissolved in their water. January 22, 2007 Bill Walker [send him mail] works in HIV and gene therapy research in Rochester, Minnesota. Copyright © 2007 LewRockwell.com Bill Walker: Archives www.LewRockwell.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Maybe DCA will be given trials
Maybe DCA will be given trials... But, looking at the history of Big Pharma the AMA, they will do all it can to stop this thing. It cares only about treating diseases, not curing them. A patient cured is a customer lost is their mentality. And cancer is the top money maker. http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn10971-cheap-safe-drug-kills-most-cancers.html___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
