[Biofuel] Fw: Jury Duty Scam
Jury Duty ScamScopes link included identifies this one as real. Beware. Mike - Original Message - From: Donna Bergmann To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 9:23 AM Subject: Jury Duty Scam Watch out for this one. D. HR JURY DUTY SCAM: This has been verified by the FBI (Their link is also included below). Please pass this on to everyone in your email address book. It is spreading fast so be prepared should you get this call. Most of us take those summons for jury duty seriously, but enough people skip out on their civic duty, that a new and ominous kind of scam has surfaced. The caller claims to be a jury coordinator. If you protest that you never received a summons for jury duty, the scammer asks you for your Social Security number and date of birth so he or she can verify the information and cancel the arrest warrant. Give out any of this information and bingo, your identity just got stolen. The scam has been reported so far in 11 states, including Oklahoma. This (scam) is particularly insidious because they use intimidation over the phone to try to bully people into giving information by pretending they're with the court system. The FBI and the federal court system have issued nationwide alerts on their web sites, warning consumers about the fraud. Check it out here: http://www.snopes.com/crime/fraud/juryduty.asp http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel05/092805.htm hr size=1 width=100% align=center -- Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Water instead of gas - CSC inventor devises hydrogen fuel generation system
Hello Walker EROEI for hydrogen (and ethanol) is negative. Why do you say that the EROEI (energy returned on energy invested) for ethanol is negative? Best Keith robert and benita rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've long ago lost all my enthusiasm for hydrogen . . . robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice The Long Journey New Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ Walker http://ca.geocities.com/vladilyich/(Ben W. Gardner) Sedona, Az http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1411638484/qid=1152564866/sr=1-1/re f=sr_1_1/002-7079739-3838404?s=booksv=glancen=283155In The Beginning - ISBN: 1-4116-3848-4 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1411638514/qid=1152564866/sr=1-2/re f=sr_1_2/002-7079739-3838404?s=booksv=glancen=283155Just In Time - ISBN 1-4116-3851-4 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Radical Christian Right Preaches Liberal Evil
Hi Keith, Your forwarded article Radical Christian Right Preaches Liberal Evil was very interesting. It is also a sad reminder that we, the followers of Christ, really miss the point sometimes. I am one of a growing number of Christians who aren't satisfied with traditional mold of American Christianity. We desire, and believe that God desires, social justice, environmental stewardship, active peacemaking, celebration of cultural differences, and the sanctity of ALL life. We believe that it is wrong to worship a homeless man on Sunday and ignore one on Monday. We pray that God would not just bless the USA but the rest of the world too. We actively promote community, art, justice, civil rights, understanding, and gardening ;) Shane Claiborne, in his book The Irresistible Revolution, echoes what many are feeling: Meanwhile, many of us find ourselves estranged from the narrow issues that define conservatives and from the shallow spirituality that marks liberals. We are thirsty for social justice and peace but have a hard time finding a faith community that is consistently pro-life or that recognizes that there a moral issues other than homosexuality and abortion, moral issues like war and poverty. So some folks just end up trying to save individual souls from their sins, and others end up trying to save the world from the system. But rarely do we see that the sickness of our world has infected each of us, and that the healing of our world not only begins within us but does not end with us. I recently received a letter from a young man that read, I am alone, surrounded by unbelieving activists and inactive believers. Were are the true Christians? A silent majority is developing as a growing number of folks are deliberately distancing themselves from the noise and arrogance that have come to mark both evangelical Christianity and secular activism. The truth of the matter, if we really get down to it, is that we are all just a bunch of rag-tag ragamuffins who are doing our best to figure out what it means to love God and love others. Christians have made some big blunders, and continue to do so. Those that promote hate, war, and hopelessness at best simply misunderstand, and at worst are enemies themselves of the very One they claim to represent. Take care, Matt p.s.- I think the Left Behind stuff is ridiculous too ;) Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.alternet.org/stories/50366/ AlterNet: Radical Christian Right Preaches Liberal Evil By Chris Hedges, Truthdig. Posted April 10, 2007. Members of the radical Christian End Times movement are being taught to believe that America is ruled by evil, clandestine organizations disguised as liberal groups. As a result, the fearful are hoping for the end. The Gilead Baptist Church, outside Detroit, is on a four-lane highway called South Telegraph Road. The drive down South Telegraph Road to the church, a warehouse-like structure surrounded by black asphalt parking lots, is a depressing gantlet of boxy, cut-rate motels with names like Melody Lane and Best Value Inn. The highway is flanked by a flat-roofed Walgreens, a Blockbuster, discount liquor stores, a Taco Bell, a McDonald's, a Bob's Big Boy, Sunoco and Citgo gas stations, a Ford dealership, Nails USA, The Dollar Palace, Pro Quick Lube and U-Haul. The tawdry display of cheap consumer goods, emblazoned with neon, lines both sides of the road, a dirty brown strip in the middle. It is a sad reminder that something has gone terribly wrong with America, with its inhuman disregard for beauty and balance, its obsession with speed and utilitarianism, its crass commercialism and its oversized SUVs and trucks and greasy junk food. It is part of our numbing assault against community and connectedness. Ten or fifteen minutes of negotiating the traffic down South Telegraph Road makes the bizarre attraction of the End Times -- the obliteration of this world of alienation, noise and distortion -- comprehensible. The manufacturing jobs in the Detroit auto plants nearby are largely gone, outsourced to nations with cheaper labor. The paint is flaking off the cramped two-story houses that lie in ugly grid patterns off the highway. The plagues of alcoholism, divorce, drug abuse, poverty and domestic violence make the internal life here as depressing as the external one. And those gathering today in this church wait for the final, welcome relief of the purgative of violence, the vast, bloody cleansing that will lift them up into the heavens and leave the world they despise -- the one that was devastated by corporatism -- to be racked by plagues and flood and fire until it and all those whom they blame for the debacle of their lives are consumed and destroyed by God. It is a theology of despair. And for many, it can't happen soon enough. The guru of the End Times movement is a small, elderly, gnome-like man with dyed
Re: [Biofuel] Water instead of gas - CSC inventor devises hydrogen fuel generation system
That's interesting. I used to dabble with aquafuel generators years ago. My crude set up used alot of juice to operate and I just put the project on the back shelf. My interest never waned though and I have been encouraged lately by some others working on low energy plasma generators. Anyone thought of using ultrsonic transducers AND plasma?? Just an inkling that won't go away until I investigate it further. LOL, Anyway in regard to the inducted plasma system this guy has a patent on I'd like to get more info on how his system is supposed to work. He talks about carbon rods, so I assume he means plasma points and it sounds like he is generating aquafuel not browns or h2 because he is using carbon electrodes and burning them in his plasma = aquafuel,. I don't remember the breakdown but it is a combination of carbon monoxide, acetylene and hydrogen curious. I have an electrochemistry text , 2 volume set actually, and I remember reading the energy to electrolyze plasma was a small fraction of a water cell. Hat would prob be a solar concentrator. I remember reading some references to the same thing. Solar powered electrolysers...I like it! regards tallex ---Original Message--- From: Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Water instead of gas - CSC inventor devises hydrogen fuel generation system Sent: 15 Apr '07 20:01 I have an electrochemistry text , 2 volume set actually, and I remember reading the energy to electrolyze plasma was a small fraction of a water cell. Hat would prob be a solar concentrator. Have to dig it out sometime Kirk _ROBERT AND BENITA RABELLO [EMAIL PROTECTED]_ wrote: AltEnergyNetwork wrote: I know that we've seen these types of systems and announcements before but this guy seems to be taking a different approach regards tallex Not really. Using plasma electrolysis became an in vogue idea among hydrogen enthusiasts back in the 1980's. It doesn't solve the problem of Where does the power come from? and likely suffers from the same measurement issues that plague attempts to electrolyze water using resonant frequencies and alternating current. (e.g. the measurements most likely include steam created in the process.) I've long ago lost all my enthusiasm for hydrogen . . . robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice The Long Journey New Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Get your daily alternative energy news Alternate Energy Resource Network 1000+ news sources-resources updated daily http://www.alternate-energy.net Next_Generation_Grid http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/next_generation_grid Alternative_Energy_Politics http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Alternative_Energy_Politics Tomorrow-energy http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tomorrow-energy Earth_Rescue_International http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Earth_Rescue_International ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
