Re: [Biofuel] Spraying Compost Tea
Hello Tom Thanks for this - I'm sorry I didn't respond sooner, it doesn't signify any lack of interest, it just didn't get done somehow. Indeed, no lack of interest, I'm impressed! Whether it works well or not. It wouldn't have occurred to me to combine compost tea and BD washwater plus raw glycerine cocktail, I'm glad it occurred to you. That's what you used, right? The whole mess, unseparated glycerine, soap and catalyst? Can you give us an updater? We're trying to order a Fertilizer Siphon Jet from Florian Tools in the US, with some difficulty. It's what you mentioned before: you have a bucket of compost tea (liquid fertiliser they say) at the tap, the siphon jet fits to the hose connection with an extension into the bucket and mixes tea and water at about 1:16 when you turn the tap on. So all you have to carry about is the other end of the hose, fitted with a spray nozzle. Two 18-litre Chinese watering cans work well too, but it's hard work, too much hassle, not quick and easy enough, which deters, and other things get done instead, so we don't use enough compost tea (or wash water). Florian only provides a tel. no. for international orders, and no email address. We can call the US at less than local rates, so we called them, they gave us an email address (so why not put it on the website??), and subsequently sent us a pp price, but no info on how we can pay for it (though we asked). One soundbyte at a time I guess. We shall persevere. Otherwise we'll take your advice and try to find a submersible pump here, and do without the siphon jet's mixing. Best Keith Hello to All, Back in February there was some discussion of herbal garden sprays. In a post (Re: Herbal Garden Sprays on 2/17/07), Keith gave his recipe for Compost Tea. (I took some liberties with the ingredients/measurements. see below **) I filtered the compost tea through fiberglass screen into a 5 gallon (19L) buckets and used a submersible pump to pump it through a 50 foot garden hose with a nozzle on the end. It pumped about 1.5 gallons/min. The pump cost me about $30 (US) a few years ago. I had to experiment with different nozzles and was able to get an acceptable spray. Last year there was some discussion about fertilizing lawns organically. Yesterday I sprayed the lawn on the side, back and front of my house with the compost tea I had concocted. Almost 24 hours later it is not only still alive, but greening nicely in the spring sun. ** Recipe I used: I used water from the first and second washes (BD) (I use KOH for my caustic; small amount of phosphoric acid in the first wash) + some well water to give about 40 gal liquid. I added approximately 4 - 6L of the glycerin cocktail to the 40+ gal of liquid. To this I added about 5 shovelfuls of good compost and some garden soil. This was stirred and then aerated in a 55 gal plastic barrel (no top) and then allowed to settle for a few hours.) This may turn out to be a good way to use wash water; especially when it contains Potassium and Phosphorus ... important plant nutrients. Last year I found that the glycerine cocktail not only composts well, but seemed to accelerate decomposition (higher temps, quicker). There is additional Potassium in the cocktail. I will keep an eye on the pH of the tea especially when using on garden plants. Small, very lightweight submersible pump will also pump water out of basements should the need arise. Tom ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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Hi, a suggestion: there is a siphon jet available for emptying fish tanks. You may be able to adapt one to do what you want (may require a ball valve to adjust the mix a bit). regards Doug On Saturday 05 May 2007 05:48:51 pm Keith Addison wrote: Hello Tom Thanks for this - I'm sorry I didn't respond sooner, it doesn't signify any lack of interest, it just didn't get done somehow. Indeed, no lack of interest, I'm impressed! Whether it works well or not. It wouldn't have occurred to me to combine compost tea and BD washwater plus raw glycerine cocktail, I'm glad it occurred to you. That's what you used, right? The whole mess, unseparated glycerine, soap and catalyst? Can you give us an updater? We're trying to order a Fertilizer Siphon Jet from Florian Tools in the US, with some difficulty. It's what you mentioned before: you have a bucket of compost tea (liquid fertiliser they say) at the tap, the siphon jet fits to the hose connection with an extension into the bucket and mixes tea and water at about 1:16 when you turn the tap on. So all you have to carry about is the other end of the hose, fitted with a spray nozzle. Two 18-litre Chinese watering cans work well too, but it's hard work, too much hassle, not quick and easy enough, which deters, and other things get done instead, so we don't use enough compost tea (or wash water). Florian only provides a tel. no. for international orders, and no email address. We can call the US at less than local rates, so we called them, they gave us an email address (so why not put it on the website??), and subsequently sent us a pp price, but no info on how we can pay for it (though we asked). One soundbyte at a time I guess. We shall persevere. Otherwise we'll take your advice and try to find a submersible pump here, and do without the siphon jet's mixing. Best Keith Hello to All, Back in February there was some discussion of herbal garden sprays. In a post (Re: Herbal Garden Sprays on 2/17/07), Keith gave his recipe for Compost Tea. (I took some liberties with the ingredients/measurements. see below **) I filtered the compost tea through fiberglass screen into a 5 gallon (19L) buckets and used a submersible pump to pump it through a 50 foot garden hose with a nozzle on the end. It pumped about 1.5 gallons/min. The pump cost me about $30 (US) a few years ago. I had to experiment with different nozzles and was able to get an acceptable spray. Last year there was some discussion about fertilizing lawns organically. Yesterday I sprayed the lawn on the side, back and front of my house with the compost tea I had concocted. Almost 24 hours later it is not only still alive, but greening nicely in the spring sun. ** Recipe I used: I used water from the first and second washes (BD) (I use KOH for my caustic; small amount of phosphoric acid in the first wash) + some well water to give about 40 gal liquid. I added approximately 4 - 6L of the glycerin cocktail to the 40+ gal of liquid. To this I added about 5 shovelfuls of good compost and some garden soil. This was stirred and then aerated in a 55 gal plastic barrel (no top) and then allowed to settle for a few hours.) This may turn out to be a good way to use wash water; especially when it contains Potassium and Phosphorus ... important plant nutrients. Last year I found that the glycerine cocktail not only composts well, but seemed to accelerate decomposition (higher temps, quicker). There is additional Potassium in the cocktail. I will keep an eye on the pH of the tea especially when using on garden plants. Small, very lightweight submersible pump will also pump water out of basements should the need arise. Tom ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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Re: [Biofuel] Spraying Compost Tea
Keith, Don't get the Siphon Jet!!! It really only works with the concentrated blue stuff. It clogs even when using well -settled/filtered compost tea, and a 16-fold dilution factor is just too much for compost tea. My little sump pump in a bucket worked great . mobility and pumped the tea full strength. I had repaired a crack in the casing by wrapping the whole thing in duct tape. I can't see make, model, etc. I'll get back to you in a bit. A quick google revealed only very sophisticated and high-priced sump pumps. Tom - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 3:48 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Spraying Compost Tea Hello Tom Thanks for this - I'm sorry I didn't respond sooner, it doesn't signify any lack of interest, it just didn't get done somehow. Indeed, no lack of interest, I'm impressed! Whether it works well or not. It wouldn't have occurred to me to combine compost tea and BD washwater plus raw glycerine cocktail, I'm glad it occurred to you. That's what you used, right? The whole mess, unseparated glycerine, soap and catalyst? Can you give us an updater? We're trying to order a Fertilizer Siphon Jet from Florian Tools in the US, with some difficulty. It's what you mentioned before: you have a bucket of compost tea (liquid fertiliser they say) at the tap, the siphon jet fits to the hose connection with an extension into the bucket and mixes tea and water at about 1:16 when you turn the tap on. So all you have to carry about is the other end of the hose, fitted with a spray nozzle. Two 18-litre Chinese watering cans work well too, but it's hard work, too much hassle, not quick and easy enough, which deters, and other things get done instead, so we don't use enough compost tea (or wash water). Florian only provides a tel. no. for international orders, and no email address. We can call the US at less than local rates, so we called them, they gave us an email address (so why not put it on the website??), and subsequently sent us a pp price, but no info on how we can pay for it (though we asked). One soundbyte at a time I guess. We shall persevere. Otherwise we'll take your advice and try to find a submersible pump here, and do without the siphon jet's mixing. Best Keith Hello to All, Back in February there was some discussion of herbal garden sprays. In a post (Re: Herbal Garden Sprays on 2/17/07), Keith gave his recipe for Compost Tea. (I took some liberties with the ingredients/measurements. see below **) I filtered the compost tea through fiberglass screen into a 5 gallon (19L) buckets and used a submersible pump to pump it through a 50 foot garden hose with a nozzle on the end. It pumped about 1.5 gallons/min. The pump cost me about $30 (US) a few years ago. I had to experiment with different nozzles and was able to get an acceptable spray. Last year there was some discussion about fertilizing lawns organically. Yesterday I sprayed the lawn on the side, back and front of my house with the compost tea I had concocted. Almost 24 hours later it is not only still alive, but greening nicely in the spring sun. ** Recipe I used: I used water from the first and second washes (BD) (I use KOH for my caustic; small amount of phosphoric acid in the first wash) + some well water to give about 40 gal liquid. I added approximately 4 - 6L of the glycerin cocktail to the 40+ gal of liquid. To this I added about 5 shovelfuls of good compost and some garden soil. This was stirred and then aerated in a 55 gal plastic barrel (no top) and then allowed to settle for a few hours.) This may turn out to be a good way to use wash water; especially when it contains Potassium and Phosphorus ... important plant nutrients. Last year I found that the glycerine cocktail not only composts well, but seemed to accelerate decomposition (higher temps, quicker). There is additional Potassium in the cocktail. I will keep an eye on the pH of the tea especially when using on garden plants. Small, very lightweight submersible pump will also pump water out of basements should the need arise. Tom ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
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Message for everyone: either buy a Mac, or run Linux you do not need to worry about pesky Virii. The Viruses only attack the weaknesses inherent in the system sold by that company in the US that purports to have a monopoly. I now use PCLinuxOS, a relatively new distribution based on Mandriva. I like it because everything just works. (providing you do not have the esoteric hardware, or something really recently released). If you wish to put your toe in the water, PCLinuxOS is a live CD, that boots runs off the CD. If you like it, you can install it on your harddrive, dual boot to that other operating system if you insist. PClinuxOS has a new version arriving very soon: the testing version is in the last revision. It works well ( I am running the Beta now). Have a look at PCLinux.com if interested the announcement will be very soon. Most of the Viruses are hoaxed off infected M$ Windows machines. They would not come via the list, but sometimes look as if they do. If you are on this list, you are interested in an open philosophy, and a caring, sharing environment. Linux fits very well with that philosophy. (Otherwise buy a Mac, which now runs BSD Unix, another more open operating system, with the Mac system running on top) regards Doug. (A Linux user for 10 years) On Saturday 05 May 2007 09:45:49 pm Juan Boveda wrote: Hello everybody. I hope this is not late for some of you. A virus entered the sistem. Our Antivirus System detected and removed a virus, it says: ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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Hello Kirk.
I tried to send a warning message for others, here I have a virus scanner
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Re: [Biofuel] Spraying Compost Tea
Hello Keith, My compost tea did contain washwater from the 1st and 2nd washes (about 75L total). It also had some unseparated glycerin (6 - 8L) containing KOH, soap and excess methanol. I added well water bringing the total liquid to about 150L. (I used the glycerin cocktail from a batch that had very little soap.) I sprayed most of my lawn and there appears to be no ill effect. The sprayed areas seem to have benefited from the mix. I neutralize my first wash with a bit of Phosphoric Acid, but I didn't bother to check the pH of the tea before application. I'm not terribly concerned about the washwater, but the glycerin can be quite caustic. I doubt that I will include the glycerin in tea for the garden. I'll go with the recipe you provided. Spraying unsplit glycerin on compost: Last year I had good success adding diluted glycerin to my compost piles. While the glycerin split from the mix and with a bit of the potassium phosphate precipitate put back in seemed to heat up quicker + higher temp, the unsplit glycerin composted just fine. I used a watering can to sprinkle the pile as I built it. The unsplit also gooed up the holes a bit. I'm making my first compost pile of the spring. I layer leaves, grass clippings, and rotted manure + a bit of agricultural lime. I used the submersible pump to spray unsplit glycerin diluted with washwater (1st wash) onto the leaf layer as I built easier than using the watering can, more uniform, and no clogging. I'll keep an eye on the temp of the pile over the next few days. While it is preferable to split the cocktail, recover methanol, use the FFAs (I blended about 50 -60 gal/ 225L of FFAs with biodiesel and burned them in my oil-fired furnace this past winter), and use the glycerin to produce biogas, composting the unsplit mix is easy and seems to accelerate decomposition while adding Potassium to the pile. Using the wash water to dilute the composted glycerin and possibly in our compost tea may also be a way to put to good use minerals, as well as the water, used in the process. Wishing You the Best on This Cinco de Mayo Tom There seem to be quite a range of submersible pumps.$, weight, etc. Just so we know what I'm referring to: I found one on e-bay that looks like the one I have. It is a Simer Geyser Model #2305 1/6 HP. There are several others that seem similar and cost less. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 3:48 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Spraying Compost Tea Hello Tom Thanks for this - I'm sorry I didn't respond sooner, it doesn't signify any lack of interest, it just didn't get done somehow. Indeed, no lack of interest, I'm impressed! Whether it works well or not. It wouldn't have occurred to me to combine compost tea and BD washwater plus raw glycerine cocktail, I'm glad it occurred to you. That's what you used, right? The whole mess, unseparated glycerine, soap and catalyst? Can you give us an updater? We're trying to order a Fertilizer Siphon Jet from Florian Tools in the US, with some difficulty. It's what you mentioned before: you have a bucket of compost tea (liquid fertiliser they say) at the tap, the siphon jet fits to the hose connection with an extension into the bucket and mixes tea and water at about 1:16 when you turn the tap on. So all you have to carry about is the other end of the hose, fitted with a spray nozzle. Two 18-litre Chinese watering cans work well too, but it's hard work, too much hassle, not quick and easy enough, which deters, and other things get done instead, so we don't use enough compost tea (or wash water). Florian only provides a tel. no. for international orders, and no email address. We can call the US at less than local rates, so we called them, they gave us an email address (so why not put it on the website??), and subsequently sent us a pp price, but no info on how we can pay for it (though we asked). One soundbyte at a time I guess. We shall persevere. Otherwise we'll take your advice and try to find a submersible pump here, and do without the siphon jet's mixing. Best Keith Hello to All, Back in February there was some discussion of herbal garden sprays. In a post (Re: Herbal Garden Sprays on 2/17/07), Keith gave his recipe for Compost Tea. (I took some liberties with the ingredients/measurements. see below **) I filtered the compost tea through fiberglass screen into a 5 gallon (19L) buckets and used a submersible pump to pump it through a 50 foot garden hose with a nozzle on the end. It pumped about 1.5 gallons/min. The pump cost me about $30 (US) a few years ago. I had to experiment with different nozzles and was able to get an acceptable spray. Last year there was some
Re: [Biofuel] Jatropha in India
Good reading http://www.biodieselsociety.org/news_international.asp - Original Message From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 10:53:57 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Jatropha in India Comment at the stoves list on jatropha by Dr. A. D. Karve, president of the Appropriate Rural Technology Institute (ARTI) in Maharashtra, India (excerpts): Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 05:51:14 +0530 From: adkarve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Stoves] The PROTOS Plant Oil Cooker I fail to understand, why the Government of India is making so much propaganda about Jatropha, which is a low yielding, wild plant. Nobody in India has ever obtained more than 300 to 400 kg of oil per ha from Jatropha. ... Any cultivated oilseed plant species, which has been subjected to plant breeding input, would yield more oil than Jatropha... Land is in short supply. If one has to use land to grow anything, one should not grow a low yielding plant like Jatropha. Yours A.D.Karve More from Dr Karve: Jatropha oil as household energy -- A critique of Jatropha in India: http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg48290.html Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396546091 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Jatropha in India
Good reading http://www.biodieselsociety.org/news_international.asp Are you kidding?? It's a load of obnoxious crap. ... if even a quarter of the continent's [Africa's] arable land were plowed into jatropha plantations, output would surpass 20 million barrels a day. So let's turn a quarter of Africa into a neo-colonial plantation economy rather than risk Europe having to tighten its prodigious belt a little (which it will have to do anyway). Sheesh! You once posted a recommendation to Dr. Karve's ARTI Institute: http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg66982.html [Biofuel] Useful link Sivaramakrishnan Ananthakrishnan Tue, 31 Oct 2006 Why don't you listen to what he's saying? Keith - Original Message From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 10:53:57 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Jatropha in India Comment at the stoves list on jatropha by Dr. A. D. Karve, president of the Appropriate Rural Technology Institute (ARTI) in Maharashtra, India (excerpts): Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 05:51:14 +0530 From: adkarve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Stoves] The PROTOS Plant Oil Cooker I fail to understand, why the Government of India is making so much propaganda about Jatropha, which is a low yielding, wild plant. Nobody in India has ever obtained more than 300 to 400 kg of oil per ha from Jatropha. ... Any cultivated oilseed plant species, which has been subjected to plant breeding input, would yield more oil than Jatropha... Land is in short supply. If one has to use land to grow anything, one should not grow a low yielding plant like Jatropha. Yours A.D.Karve More from Dr Karve: Jatropha oil as household energy -- A critique of Jatropha in India: http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg48290.html Best Keith - Original Message From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 10:53:57 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Jatropha in India Comment at the stoves list on jatropha by Dr. A. D. Karve, president of the Appropriate Rural Technology Institute (ARTI) in Maharashtra, India (excerpts): Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 05:51:14 +0530 From: adkarve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Stoves] The PROTOS Plant Oil Cooker I fail to understand, why the Government of India is making so much propaganda about Jatropha, which is a low yielding, wild plant. Nobody in India has ever obtained more than 300 to 400 kg of oil per ha from Jatropha. ... Any cultivated oilseed plant species, which has been subjected to plant breeding input, would yield more oil than Jatropha... Land is in short supply. If one has to use land to grow anything, one should not grow a low yielding plant like Jatropha. Yours A.D.Karve More from Dr Karve: Jatropha oil as household energy -- A critique of Jatropha in India: http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg48290.html Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Your document - do no open! virusName=W32%2FSality.Q
Hello Juan Sending warning messages to others really only increases the noise level. This isn't even a new virus, it's been around for awhile, Symantic rates it as a low-level threat, easily contained, easily removed, and the damage level as low. It's worth checking with Symantic or another anti-virus website. Systems Affected: Windows 2000, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows Me, Windows NT, Windows Server 2003, Windows XP. LOL! Maybe the viruses are trying to tell you something? I agree with Doug (get a Mac! (or Linux)). Viruses are a constant, if you use the Internet you'll receive viruses, and if people using Windoze haven't yet learnt to keep their patches or whatever up to date, sending them yet another warning probably won't help much either. If you don't use Windoze the viruses just bounce off, no need for patches, anti-virus software, or even to pay any attention. I've posted this message below quite a few times now when people have warned of viruses on the list (some of them purporting to have been sent by me): Sorry about that folks. Not from me, an imposter. Every now and then one gets through, there's not much more to be done about it short of rendering the list unusable. Anyway the virus got scrubbed by the server, it wasn't distributed, or shouldn't have been. This one was also scrubbed by the server: http://sustainablelists.org/pipermail/biofuel_sustainablelists.org/20 07-May/019032.html [Biofuel] Your document Please read the attached document. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: word_document4.pif Type: application/octet-stream Size: 38912 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://sustainablelists.org/pipermail/biofuel_sustainablelists.org/att achments/20070505/36c97cc8/attachment.obj Did you actually receive the virus? I don't see how that could have happened, as you can see from the above it was stopped before the message was distributed to list members. I think Doug has a good defence using Linux or others using Mac but this type of OS is not available at the office. So what? Make it available. A lot of people are doing that now and dumping their PCs, especially following the Vista debacle, along with the capabilities of the new Macs. Get a Mac with an Intel Core running OS 10.4. It can run Windoze as well, so you can use all your existing software and interface with the other computers at the office. It can run the two OSs at the same time, you can easily swap files between them. Use the Mac OSX for the Internet. Or something like that. Life will be happier. The Mac is the only computer in the world that can run all the major operating systems, including Mac OS X, Windows XP, and Vista. With software like Parallels Desktop or VMware you can even run them side by side. http://www.apple.com/getamac/everything-ready.html http://www.apple.com/getamac/ Apple - Get a Mac Best Keith Hello Kirk. I tried to send a warning message for others, here I have a virus scanner and it do not let any attachments with this type of extensions. If I get something unusual, I prefer not to open any file even power point presentations, once I got a virus in this kind of files. I think Dough has a good defence using Linux or others using Mac but this type of OS is not available at the office. Thank you for the advice. Best Regards. Juan -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de Kirk McLoren Enviado el: sábado, 05 de mayo de 2007 10:50 Para: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Asunto: Re: [Biofuel] RE: Your document - do no open! virusName=W32%2FSality.Q Juan, the header info is usually misinformation. Never open an attachment .com .exe .pif or actually anything unless you expect an attachment. If a friend sends me something I ask for a confirming email usually Saves a lot of trouble. Kirk Juan Boveda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody. I hope this is not late for some of you. A virus entered the sistem. Our Antivirus System detected and removed a virus, it says: Dangerous Attachment has been Removed. The file word_document4.pif has been removed because of a virus. It was infected with the W32/Sality.Q virus. File quarantined as: . http://www.fortinet.com/VirusEncyclopedia/search/encyclopediaSearch.do?metho d=quickSearchDirectlyvirusName=W32%2FSality.Q Some of you folks might know how to search for the original infected server with this data: --- Received: from server1.emwd.com ([74.52.21.50]) by server1.emwd.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HkIFz-Go-0g; Sat, 05 May 2007 07:16:55 -0400 Received: from [59.92.113.108] (helo=sustainablelists.org) by server1.emwd.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HkIFq-GG-2B for biofuel@sustainablelists.org; Sat, 05 May 2007 07:16:51 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 16:48:57 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart
Re: [Biofuel] Isuzu NPR
i have 6 vehicles i run on b100 for 9 - 10 months out of the year. the chevy 6.5 starts when it shouldn't and the isuzu just won't tolerate ANY gelling of the fuel . all the vehicles have thier own charecteristics for cold tolereance but the isuzu npr the most sensitive. and me, i just can't bear the thought of pulling up to a diesel pump, so i run on b100 untill the last truck gells up for the winter -- Original message -- From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] i have a 93 that i have run on b100 for over 2 years, the only problem is the stock filter is VERY sensitive to any level of gelling. cold morning starts are impossible unless you have a heater. i run my fuel line through the heater hose, so once it is started it works great.another thing ive done is use a home heating oil filter to pre filter my fuel before it reaches the stock filter . they can be replced for about a dollar and filter down to about 10 microns. the whole setup is only about $20 and eliminates expensive filter changes I think you're talking about a problem with biodiesel itself, not a problem specific to Isuzus. Please see: Using biodiesel in winter http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_vehicle.html#winter Best Keith -- Original message -- From: George Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone have experience running B99 in an Isuzu NPR? I have a recently purchased 1989 4 Cyl. NPR. I also have a local source (Vashon Island, WA USA) of B20 and B99 (Williams Heating). Any warnings, precautions or recommendations? I'm also looking at purchasing a new Isuzu NPR 4 cyl. Diesel as well as a new Mitsubishi FUSO 4x4 FG140 4 cyl. diesel and would be interested in running b99 in those vehicles. Is it better to start with a new vehicle? Do you thereby eliminate some of the concerns caused by dinodiesel use? I saw nothing in the archives re: NPRs, so I'm a little nervous... Thanks much, George George Page www.seabreezefarm.net Vashon Island, WA USA ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
