[Biofuel] re-powering a boat
i have just come across a fair sized boat(33ft), but basket case doesnt even begin to cover the condition its in. i was wondering, since it will be a total rebuild, what hardware would be better for a plugin gas/electric repowering. im not too fond of a 3.5mpg fuel use, but i love spending weekends on the river. any suggestions? _ Need a brain boost? Recharge with a stimulating game. Play now! http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=club_hotmailtextlink1 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Crosspost: Home-Front Ecology
Mention of urban horses. Now there's an idea worth looking at. -D [Fwd: [sfbike] from the indispensable mike davis : home-front ecology] what the USA can do when it tries You can view the original page on the Sierra Club's website at http://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/200707/ecology.asphttp://www.sierraclub.org/s\ ierra/200707/ecology.asp Home-Front Ecology What our grandparents can teach us about saving the world By Mike Davis July/August 2007 During World War II, Hollywood made conservation sexy--as with this promotional shot of Rita Hayworth. DOES THIS GENERATION OF AMERICANS have the right stuff to meet the epic challenges of sustaining life on a rapidly warming planet? Sure, the mainstream media are full of talk about carbon credits, hybrid cars, and smart urbanism--but even so, our environmental footprints are actually growing larger, not smaller. The typical new U.S. home, for instance, is 40 percent larger than that of 25 years ago, even though the average household has fewer people. In that same period, dinosaur-like SUVs (now 50 percent of all private vehicles) have taken over the freeways, while the amount of retail space per capita (an indirect but reliable measure of consumption) has quadrupled. Too many of us, in other words, talk green but lead supersized lifestyles--giving fodder to the conservative cynics who write columns about Al Gore's electricity bills. Our culture appears hopelessly addicted to fossil fuels, shopping sprees, suburban sprawl, and beef-centered diets. Would Americans ever voluntarily give up their SUVs, McMansions, McDonald's, and lawns? The surprisingly hopeful answer lies in living memory. In the 1940s, Americans simultaneously battled fascism overseas and waste at home. My parents, their neighbors, and millions of others left cars at home to ride bikes to work, tore up their front yards to plant cabbage, recycled toothpaste tubes and cooking grease, volunteered at daycare centers and USOs, shared their houses and dinners with strangers, and conscientiously attempted to reduce unnecessary consumption and waste. The World War II home front was the most important and broadly participatory green experiment in U.S. history. Lessing Rosenwald, the chief of the Bureau of Industrial Conservation, called on Americans to change from an economy of waste--and this country has been notorious for waste--to an economy of conservation. A majority of civilians, some reluctantly but many others enthusiastically, answered the call. The most famous symbol of this wartime conservation ethos was the victory garden. Originally promoted by the Wilson administration to combat the food shortages of World War I, household and communal kitchen gardens had been revived by the early New Deal as a subsistence strategy for the unemployed. After Pearl Harbor, a groundswell of popular enthusiasm swept aside the skepticism of some Department of Agriculture officials and made the victory garden the centerpiece of the national Food Fights for Freedom campaign. By 1943, beans and carrots were growing on the former White House lawn, and First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt and nearly 20 million other victory gardeners were producing 30 to 40 percent of the nation's vegetables--freeing the nation's farmers, in turn, to help feed Britain and Russia. In The Garden Is Political, a 1942 volume of popular verse, poet John Malcolm Brinnin acclaimed these acres of internationalism taking root in U.S. cities. Although suburban and rural gardens were larger and usually more productive, some of the most dedicated gardeners were inner-city children. With the participation of the Boy Scouts, trade unions, and settlement houses, thousands of ugly, trash-strewn vacant lots in major industrial cities were turned into neighborhood gardens that gave tenement kids the pride of being self-sufficient urban farmers. In Chicago, 400,000 schoolchildren enlisted in the Clean Up for Victory campaign, which salvaged scrap for industry and cleared lots for gardens. Victory gardening transcended the need to supplement the wartime food supply and grew into a spontaneous vision of urban greenness (even if that concept didn't yet exist) and self-reliance. In Los Angeles, flowers (a builder of citizen morale) were included in the Clean-Paint-Plant program to transform the city's vacant spaces, and the Brooklyn Botanic Garden taught the principles of garden culture to local schoolteachers and thousands of their enthusiastic students. The war also temporarily dethroned the automobile as the icon of the American standard of living. Detroit assembly lines were retooled to build Sherman tanks and B-24 Liberators. Gasoline was rationed and, following the Japanese conquest of Malaya, so was rubber. (The U.S. Office of the Rubber Director was charged with getting used tires to factories, where they became parts for tanks and trucks.) When shortages and congestion brought streetcar and bus systems across the country near the breaking
[Biofuel] Old wisdom unites to solve global dilemmas
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/07/19/1983170.htm Old wisdom unites to solve global dilemmas Most people solve the world's problems with some old friends and a good bottle of wine over dinner. But when former South African president Nelson Mandela brings his old friends together, there is a chance they might make a bit more progress than the average dinner party. Mr Mandela brought together a who's who of international statesmen and women to help celebrate his 89th birthday and embark on a global humanitarian mission. The council, called The Elders, will work on tackling AIDS, poverty, international crime and other pressing global issues. It is the brainchild of billionaire businessman Richard Branson and musician Peter Gabriel, and The Elders involved include the former secretary general of the United Nations, Kofi Annan, and former US president Jimmy Carter. Also joining the man they call 'Mandiba' in Johannesburg was former Irish president Mary Robinson and Archbishop Desmond Tutu, who explained the thinking behind the new council. In traditional societies, it was the elders of the village who were trusted to resolve conflicts and provide wise guidance, Mr Tutu said. Today we live in a global village, yet we don't have our global elders to lead and inspire. At last night's launch, Mr Gabriel sang a song about another anti-apartheid activist, Steven Biko. Mr Mandela expressed his enthusiasm for the council. I am confident that The Elders can become a real role model, leading, guiding. The Elders can speak freely and boldly. Mr Carter is confident the lack of a political imperative will give The Elders the ability to achieve more than those in elected office. With no adverse political consequences and prospect of criticism from constituency or seeking public office, we will be able to risk failure in worthy causes and we will not need to claim credit for any successes that might be achieved, he said. Global mission Mr Annan explained the group's goals. We all need to come together and work across national boundaries and deal with these problems, and I'm referring to problems of poverty, environmental degradation, infectious diseases, internationally organised crime, weapons of mass destruction, I can go on, he said. It is unclear how The Elders will succeed in solving some of the world's great problems where the UN and a myriad of other organisations have failed, but Mr Mandela is confident the wisdom of his friends can help. Using their collective experience, their moral courage and their ability to rise above the parochial concerns of nation, erase and create, they can help and make our planet a more peaceful, healthy and equitable place to live, he said. Mr Mandela continued his birthday later in the day with a celebrity soccer match. One of the world's greatest players, Brazil's Pele, led a group of 50 players in an Africa versus the 'Rest of World' match labelled as '90 minutes for Mandela'. The match was played on Robben Island, where Mr Mandela was imprisoned for 27 years. And the result of the match? Befitting a day dedicated to solving the world's problems, it was a three-all draw. -- Contentment comes not from having more, but from wanting less. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * All generalizations are false. Including this one. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This email is constructed entirely with OpenSource Software. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] re-powering a boat
Re-fit with a Yanmar and run biodiesel Jason Mier wrote: i have just come across a fair sized boat(33ft), but basket case doesnt even begin to cover the condition its in. i was wondering, since it will be a total rebuild, what hardware would be better for a plugin gas/electric repowering. im not too fond of a 3.5mpg fuel use, but i love spending weekends on the river. any suggestions? _ Need a brain boost? Recharge with a stimulating game. Play now! http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=club_hotmailtextlink1 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] re-powering a boat
Mike Weaver wrote: Re-fit with a Yanmar and run biodiesel Jason Mier wrote: i have just come across a fair sized boat(33ft), but basket case doesnt even begin to cover the condition its in. THere are a *lot* of marine diesel options since you are redoing from scratch, and I heartily agree with Mike. What you want in a boat (and you know this) is something that just works, and always works. Diesel is the way to go. btw, it's GPH, not MPG on boats :) diesel and 'rug' in marine applications, there is NO comparison between the gph of diesel and rug. diesel is much much better. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Allergies
Here in the Big Smoke we don't HAVE pollen, GMO or otherwise... Chip's comment about increasing allergies certainly rings a bell, however. Nowadays, everybody has something, not just peanuts anymore, boys. LOTS more people can't tolerate gluten, and a variety of nuts and fruits. Lots more people are not consuming sugar, which exacerbates oodles of skin problems. Sensitivites run the list of plants that are genetically modified, though not corn, that I've noticed, in my little catering world. This is a change over the last 15 years. Jesse --- Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Chip I have been thinking along lines not quite the same but related. Has anyone else noticed this year a step change amongst your circle of friends in the amount of respiratory complaints? I have and have had some sysmptoms myself and I know I am mildly allergic to ragweed but it is not the season yet for that and in the spring this year (when I am never bothered by allergies) I had some allergy like symptoms. I'm wondering if the increase in GMO pollen is having an effect?? Joe Chip Mefford wrote: I suppose most folks are aware that there is a radical increase in food allergies or sensitivities worldwide, that is growing all the time. Folks becoming intolerant to food products in ways never even heard of just a generation ago. I've heard conjecture that the base causality may possibly be traceable to the radical increases in worldwide personal hygiene and the strong trend to urbanization with folks being exposed less and less to regular ole dirt. While that kinda makes sense to me, I keep thinking that it may be at least as likely that the root cause may be found in the decrease in the quality of the food supply. Not in calories or even in proteins and vitamins, but the drastic increase in 'artificial' toxins (pesticides and herbicides) in the food supply around the world. Has anyone read or heard of any developing hypothesis along these lines? Just curious. -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Jesse Frayne itsdinner.ca Neighbourhood catering and general joie de livre Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] re-powering a boat
There have been many successful solar electric boats (mostly plug in electric, with solar assist). Take a look at thameselectric.com Now, these are very slow compared to speedboats On 7/19/07, Chip Mefford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Weaver wrote: Re-fit with a Yanmar and run biodiesel Jason Mier wrote: i have just come across a fair sized boat(33ft), but basket case doesnt even begin to cover the condition its in. THere are a *lot* of marine diesel options since you are redoing from scratch, and I heartily agree with Mike. What you want in a boat (and you know this) is something that just works, and always works. Diesel is the way to go. btw, it's GPH, not MPG on boats :) diesel and 'rug' in marine applications, there is NO comparison between the gph of diesel and rug. diesel is much much better. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] re-powering a boat
Wind-powered electric, too: http://www.tsca.net/images/Scot/054Turbine.jpg One initially suspects that it's a perpetual-motion thing, like fans blowing on sails in animated cartoons. It obviously isn't, when you think about it: no reason it shouldn't work. -D - Original Message From: Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, 19 July, 2007 4:29:13 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] re-powering a boat There have been many successful solar electric boats (mostly plug in electric, with solar assist). Take a look at thameselectric.com Now, these are very slow compared to speedboats ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] re-powering a boat
i understand gph vs. mpg, but i still like to compare to distance traveled rather than volume over time. if i can go from andalusia to savanna (~65mi upriver) and not have to refuel i would feel a lot better. and diesel was a strong option to begin with, i just need to find where i can get one for cheap (or 2 if i cant find a good transfer case. its a twin engine) i was also considering a plugin battery pack with an onboard generator. From: Chip Mefford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] re-powering a boat Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:14:30 -0400 Mike Weaver wrote: Re-fit with a Yanmar and run biodiesel Jason Mier wrote: i have just come across a fair sized boat(33ft), but basket case doesnt even begin to cover the condition its in. THere are a *lot* of marine diesel options since you are redoing from scratch, and I heartily agree with Mike. What you want in a boat (and you know this) is something that just works, and always works. Diesel is the way to go. btw, it's GPH, not MPG on boats :) diesel and 'rug' in marine applications, there is NO comparison between the gph of diesel and rug. diesel is much much better. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _ http://newlivehotmail.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Old wisdom unites to solve global dilemmas
While I don't mean to disrespect the effort, this more a think tank than a council. Council or think tank, I didn't read about any commitment from anyone in a position to be a part of creating public policy , to use the counsel of the council in creating public policy. Perhaps it's value will be in creating a stronger grass roots movement. Time will tell, as they say. Doug, N0LKK Kansas USA inc. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Old wisdom unites to solve global dilemmas
- Original Message From: doug swanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel List Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, 19 July, 2007 2:10:15 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Old wisdom unites to solve global dilemmas http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/07/19/1983170.htm snip Also joining the man they call 'Mandiba' in Johannesburg was former Irish president Mary Robinson and Archbishop Desmond Tutu, who explained the thinking behind the new council. snip Madiba, not Mandiba. Getting little things like that wrong creates the impression that one doesn't know what one is talking about even when one does. -D ___ Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/winter07.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
