[Biofuel] TThe performance and emission characteristics of emulsified fuel in a direct injection diesel engineitle:
Hi all I have copied and pasted for private reference this interesting paper on ethanol/diesel emulsion. Perhaps ammonium oleate or ethyl acetate could be also be used as emulsifiers. Cheers. Abstract: Diesel engines are employed as the major propulsion power sources because of their simple, robust structure and high fuel economy. It is expected that diesel engines will be widely used in the foreseeable future. However, an increase in the use of diesel engines causes a shortage of fossil fuel and results in a greater degree of pollution. To regulate the above, identifying an alternative fuel to the diesel engine with less pollution is essential. Ethanolâdiesel emulsion is one such method, used for the preparation of an alternative fuel for the diesel engine. Experimental investigations were carried out to compare the performance of diesel fuel with different ratios 50D: 50E (50 per cent diesel No: 2: 50 per cent ethanol â100 per cent proof) and 60D: 40E emulsified fuels. In the next phase, experiments were conducted for the selected emulsified fuel ratio 50D: 50E for different high injection pressures and the results are compared. The results show that for the emulsified fuel ratios, there is a marginal increase in torque, power, NOx, emissions, and decreasing values of carbon monoxide (CO), sulphur dioxide (SO2) emissions at the maximum speed conditions, compared with diesel fuel. Also, it is found that an increase in injection pressure of the engine running with emulsified fuel decreases CO and smoke emissions especially between 1500 to 2000 r/min with respect to the diesel fuel Authors: Ashok, M. P.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Saravanan, CG.1 Author Affiliations: 1Department of Mechanical Engineering, Faculty of Engineering and Technology, Annamalai University, Chidambaram, Tamil Nadu, India Paper ref: http://us.f523.mail.yahoo.com/ym/ShowLetter?box=InboxMsgId=5444_6629920_5660_1413_261105_0_113844_377956_1056226711bodyPart=2tnef=YY=75961y5beta=yesy5beta=yesorder=downsort=datepos=0VScan=1Idx=6 nbsp; - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080210/f113141b/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Green Developer?
Hi Tom, I am going to try and address all three of your points in one comment. Batteryless PV setups are going to be the PV setup of choice in almost all instances for new homes built by a developer. The grid-tie systems can be installed in any home that has a local power company that willing to do buy back, roll back, or net meetering. Note that small towns are exempt normally from buying back power because there is often a coop or municpality procidng the power, not a real company. Finally, nearky all homes can take solar panels somewhere. If the roof is not ideal due to shade or orientation theb pole mounts, trackers, or ground mounts can be used. The term PV ready is silky as this list surmised early on. You can take either view that all homes are PV ready or none are. The truth is that some installs are just easier than others. On Feb 9, 2008, at 11:19 AM, Thomas Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mikey, Zeke, Thanks for the replies. The design changes required to make a house PV ready seems to be related to whether the PV system is designed to be off-grid capable or not. Off-grid requires batteries, inverter(s), charge controllers, grounding considerations, etc. that grid-tie batteryless PV systems do not need. 1. Would it be fair to suspect that a developer who is building 2nd homes (in a golf community) would lean towards batteryless PV ready houses? (I'll call and ask them.) 2. Is it fair to say that batteryless PV ready houses require little more than the ability to mount PV panels with southern exposure (in northern US). Given two, otherwise identical houses, one could be described as PV ready simply because it is un-shaded and provides for southern exposure. 3. Wouldn't many houses be batteryless PV ready in any above ground development if the total number of houses approaches 1000? Thanks again, Tom - Original Message - From: Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Green Developer? Mikey is right -- a battery based PV system is MUCH harder than a batteryless one. Our crew can usually complete a batteryless 5kW system in one day. A battery backup one... more like 3 or 4 days, plus a few more times for commissioning wierdities... and that's just to get it up and running the first time... Someone described it this way if you want to generate power from the sun, get a grid-tie batteryless PV system. If you want hobby, get a battery backup PV system. And if you want a full time job, get a small wind turbine. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Green Developer?
Thanks Mikey There's a saying: The devil is in the details. The proposed development is anything but green. There is a concerted effort by the developers to greenwash it. I'm attempting to grasp details that relate to the greenwashing. Your responses, and others , have been a great help. Tom - Original Message - From: Mikey Sklar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Green Developer? Hi Tom, I am going to try and address all three of your points in one comment. Batteryless PV setups are going to be the PV setup of choice in almost all instances for new homes built by a developer. The grid-tie systems can be installed in any home that has a local power company that willing to do buy back, roll back, or net meetering. Note that small towns are exempt normally from buying back power because there is often a coop or municpality procidng the power, not a real company. Finally, nearky all homes can take solar panels somewhere. If the roof is not ideal due to shade or orientation theb pole mounts, trackers, or ground mounts can be used. The term PV ready is silky as this list surmised early on. You can take either view that all homes are PV ready or none are. The truth is that some installs are just easier than others. On Feb 9, 2008, at 11:19 AM, Thomas Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mikey, Zeke, Thanks for the replies. The design changes required to make a house PV ready seems to be related to whether the PV system is designed to be off-grid capable or not. Off-grid requires batteries, inverter(s), charge controllers, grounding considerations, etc. that grid-tie batteryless PV systems do not need. 1. Would it be fair to suspect that a developer who is building 2nd homes (in a golf community) would lean towards batteryless PV ready houses? (I'll call and ask them.) 2. Is it fair to say that batteryless PV ready houses require little more than the ability to mount PV panels with southern exposure (in northern US). Given two, otherwise identical houses, one could be described as PV ready simply because it is un-shaded and provides for southern exposure. 3. Wouldn't many houses be batteryless PV ready in any above ground development if the total number of houses approaches 1000? Thanks again, Tom - Original Message - From: Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Green Developer? Mikey is right -- a battery based PV system is MUCH harder than a batteryless one. Our crew can usually complete a batteryless 5kW system in one day. A battery backup one... more like 3 or 4 days, plus a few more times for commissioning wierdities... and that's just to get it up and running the first time... Someone described it this way if you want to generate power from the sun, get a grid-tie batteryless PV system. If you want hobby, get a battery backup PV system. And if you want a full time job, get a small wind turbine. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] This home is so green, it's gold
http://www.sptimes.com/2008/02/09/Homes/This_home_is_so_green.shtml tampabay.com This home is so green, it's gold Building with Earth-friendly materials and reusing water earns elite certification. By Judy Stark, Times Homes and Garden Editor Published February 9, 2008 ST. PETERSBURG - The green home that has been under construction since May on a quiet street in northeast St. Petersburg opens its doors to the public today and Sunday. Visitors will see the only home in Florida that has been certified gold by the U.S. Green Building Coalition under its LEED program - Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design - and one of only 19 gold-certified homes in the nation. Details on the LEED program, Page 5F. I haven't stood back to look at it for a while, but it looks good, owner Darren Brinkley, 37, said a few days ago as he stepped into the street to get a long look at the home. His parents, Jan and Tony, regular winter visitors from England, were putting on the finishing touches, polishing and painting for the weekend open house. It was last May that Brinkley began deconstructing a rundown 744-square-foot home on the site, removing and recycling doors and windows, leaving only the original walls to become what is now an oversize two-car garage (with its original terrazzo floor). The new home - four bedrooms and three baths in 2,000 air-conditioned square feet - rests on pilings above the original building. He and a few friends and his father did 95 percent of the work ourselves. Brinkley plans to use the contemporary-style home as a model to show prospective clients that a green home isn't a mud hut with a chimney in the middle. Among the home's green features: - Bamboo flooring - Recycled-glass countertops in the kitchen - Low- or no-VOC paints, stains and finishes - Dual-flush toilets - Walls and roof constructed from structural insulated panels, sandwiches of foam sided with wood - A geothermal heating and air-conditioning system - A graywater reuse system that recycles water from the bathroom sinks and showers and the washing machine to flush toilets - A 1,000-gallon rainwater cistern - Florida-friendly landscaping - A backyard pond to attract birds and wildlife, fed by runoff from the dehumidifier - Energy Star appliances The home is certified by the federal Energy Star program to be at least 15 percent more efficient than codes require. By Energy Star's estimate, his electric bill will be $100 a month. Brinkley thinks it will be even lower, around $70 a month. He used no solar energy: The house is designed and built so efficiently, it's not cost-effective, he said of solar. The key to a truly green home is to start at the design and planning stage. That's what he intends to do through his business, REAL Building, a green consulting firm. The name stands for responsible, efficient, attainable living. Brinkley said a Realtor recently valued the home at $549,000. The county has not yet appraised it for tax purposes. Building green costs no more than conventional building, he said. He said most prospective clients do know how much they have to spend and are willing to make tradeoffs to achieve their priorities within their budget. What's gratifying, he said, is the support he received from city officials and inspectors and from green suppliers, and the increasing awareness of green building as mainstream. Now, two years after he first sketched out the house while on vacation in the French Alps, everyone knows what green building is. Judy Stark can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or (727) 893-8446. - - - Visiting the house Darren Brinkley's green home is open for public tours from noon to 6 p.m. today and Sunday. The house is at 216 84th Ave. NE in the Riviera Bay neighborhood of St. Petersburg. From Fourth Street N, turn east on 83rd Avenue N. Cross the canal and turn left on Orient Way NE, then immediately left on 84th Avenue NE. The house is ahead on the left. Information: (727) 388-9777 or www.realbuilding.com. What does LEED mean? LEED stands for Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design, the nationally accepted benchmark for the design, operation and construction of high-performance green buildings. There are four certification levels - certified, silver, gold and platinum - depending on the number of credits accrued in five green design categories: sustainable sites, water efficiency, energy and atmosphere, materials and resources and indoor environmental quality. The program is administered by the U.S. Green Building Council. Information: www.usgbc.gov, or the National Resource Defense Council site at www.nrdc.org. For information about the Energy Star program, administered by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, go to www.energystar.gov. © 2007 • All Rights Reserved • St. Petersburg Times 490 First Avenue South • St. Petersburg, FL 33701 • 727-893-8111 Contact the Times | Privacy Policy |
[Biofuel] Biodiesel or Byproduct Powered Boiler
Hello everyone, I'm involved in a student run project to construct a 400 gallon batch reactor at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. We cannot use electricity as a source for our reaction heat, so we have been looking for a product or byproduct fueled boiler to heat water that will pass through a heat exchanger to heat the oil. Does anyone have any recommendations? I came across a product from Agsolutions that claims it can burn a mixture of product and byproduct, the ideal solution for us, but their site does not provide very much information. I also read a few threads in the infopop forum that mention the hazards of burning byproduct. Is our goal feasible? Thanks, -- William Kelleher Sophomore, Electrical Engineering University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080210/94e4d2ae/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel or Byproduct Powered Boiler
Hello Willie, there comes Jean Pains Reaktor for Compost to my mind.Depend naturally on availability of composting materials and probably a little burner to heat the water a bit more than the 60 degree cel. a composter can make As a second way could be Solarheat (only in summer?) Fritz - Original Message - From: Will Kelleher To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 2:38 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Biodiesel or Byproduct Powered Boiler Hello everyone, I'm involved in a student run project to construct a 400 gallon batch reactor at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. We cannot use electricity as a source for our reaction heat, so we have been looking for a product or byproduct fueled boiler to heat water that will pass through a heat exchanger to heat the oil. Does anyone have any recommendations? I came across a product from Agsolutions that claims it can burn a mixture of product and byproduct, the ideal solution for us, but their site does not provide very much information. I also read a few threads in the infopop forum that mention the hazards of burning byproduct. Is our goal feasible? Thanks, -- William Kelleher Sophomore, Electrical Engineering University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080210/94e4d2ae/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080210/29bd7edf/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel or Byproduct Powered Boiler
Will, I run my boiler (heat + domestic hot water) on 100% biodiesel. It is an oil-fired boiler. No conversion was necessary, just some minor adjustments. An oil-fired water heater might work well. Pre-heat the water via solar or compost heat as Fritz suggested to minimize fuel requirements. came across a product from Agsolutions that claims it can burn a mixture of product and byproduct, Last winter I split the glycerine mix using phosphoric acid (see JTF). - crude glycerine w excess methanol (compost) - potassium phosphate (fertilizer) - FFAs I blended the FFAs with biodiesel (product and coproduct?) and burned it in my boiler. It required a bit of preheat in order to have reliable starts. In splitting the mix, be sure to allow sufficient settling time and be careful not to include any glycerine with the FFA. Glycerine with coke up the nozzle on a boiler. I used 60-70%BD: 30-40%FFA Tom - Original Message - From: Will Kelleher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 2:38 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Biodiesel or Byproduct Powered Boiler Hello everyone, I'm involved in a student run project to construct a 400 gallon batch reactor at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. We cannot use electricity as a source for our reaction heat, so we have been looking for a product or byproduct fueled boiler to heat water that will pass through a heat exchanger to heat the oil. Does anyone have any recommendations? I came across a product from Agsolutions that claims it can burn a mixture of product and byproduct, the ideal solution for us, but their site does not provide very much information. I also read a few threads in the infopop forum that mention the hazards of burning byproduct. Is our goal feasible? Thanks, -- William Kelleher Sophomore, Electrical Engineering University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080210/94e4d2ae/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Review - Nutrition and Physical Degeneration
of their facial structure, which also correlated with their diets. It's simple.those who lived in the remote areas away from processed food, were the happiest and the healthiest. Dr. Price presented a very interesting observation. Not only did those who ate the modernized diets have malformed dental arches (not enough room for their teeth) but their chins were receding, their noses pinched, with sinuses affected and other abnormalities. It made sense to me that this is one reason we have so many mouth breathers and people with sinus problems. The shape of the whole skull is often determined by maternal nutrition and I would like to present a specific case from Price's book. Dr. Price paid particular attention to a sixteen year old boy who had Down's Syndrome (or what they termed mongolism) and had been born to an older mother who was sickly at the time of his conception. Down's Syndrome often occurs in children of mothers who are over 40 or to mothers experiencing reproductive exhaustion. Dr. Weston Price felt that perhaps the crowding of the pituitary gland caused by constrictive jaw structure, contributed to the underdeveloped sexual organs and mental capacities. Through surgery Dr. Price widened the boy's maxillary arch, which resulted in improvement of the mongoloid features and a definite increase in mental abilities. The boy wore an appliance in his mouth to keep the bones in place but when it subsequently became dislodged, he reverted and many of his previous abnormal characteristics returned. I have only touched upon some of the valuable information in this book of over 500 pages and with 154 photos and illustrations. This monumental work is a must read for anyone who is concerned about their own health, the health of their families and the future of the whole human race. The information it contains is key to the survival of our species. We desperately need to return to a simpler way of life which includes families and communities producing their own foods. Of course in the cities this is not entirely possible, but we need to begin somewhere. Support your local farmers and encourage them to produce their food in the most natural way possible. This will be a major step in taking back the control and safety of our food supply. We must begin now to avoid the restrictive laws (under the guise of protection) which are traveling towards us, down the road, at an ever increasing speed. For more information, please visit the Price Pottenger Nutrition Foundation at _www.ppnf.org_ (http://www.ppnf.org/) The above review was contributed by: Marjorie Tietjen: Marjorie is a freelance investigative journalist with a B.S. in nutrition. She writes on various topics but has a special interest in public health, education and awareness. Her writings can be found online and in several print publications. To read more of Marjorie's articles and reviews _CLICK HERE_ (http://www.bookpleasures.com/Lore2/search.php?query=mARJORIE+Tietjensubmit=Go) _http://www.bookpleasures.com/Lore2/search.php?query=mARJORIE+Tietjensubmit=G o_ (http://www.bookpleasures.com/Lore2/search.php?query=mARJORIE+Tietjensubmit=Go) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080210/55c6a721/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Green Developer?
I heard lot about local utility buying your surplush power. Where can I find more about this progrmme. How much you expect to get for each kw you sell? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:07:29 -0700 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Green Developer? Hi Tom, I am going to try and address all three of your points in one comment. Batteryless PV setups are going to be the PV setup of choice in almost all instances for new homes built by a developer. The grid-tie systems can be installed in any home that has a local power company that willing to do buy back, roll back, or net meetering. Note that small towns are exempt normally from buying back power because there is often a coop or municpality procidng the power, not a real company. Finally, nearky all homes can take solar panels somewhere. If the roof is not ideal due to shade or orientation theb pole mounts, trackers, or ground mounts can be used. The term PV ready is silky as this list surmised early on. You can take either view that all homes are PV ready or none are. The truth is that some installs are just easier than others. On Feb 9, 2008, at 11:19 AM, Thomas Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mikey, Zeke, Thanks for the replies. The design changes required to make a house PV ready seems to be related to whether the PV system is designed to be off-grid capable or not. Off-grid requires batteries, inverter(s), charge controllers, grounding considerations, etc. that grid-tie batteryless PV systems do not need. 1. Would it be fair to suspect that a developer who is building 2nd homes (in a golf community) would lean towards batteryless PV ready houses? (I'll call and ask them.) 2. Is it fair to say that batteryless PV ready houses require little more than the ability to mount PV panels with southern exposure (in northern US). Given two, otherwise identical houses, one could be described as PV ready simply because it is un-shaded and provides for southern exposure. 3. Wouldn't many houses be batteryless PV ready in any above ground development if the total number of houses approaches 1000? Thanks again, Tom - Original Message - From: Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Green Developer?Mikey is right -- a battery based PV system is MUCH harder than a batteryless one. Our crew can usually complete a batteryless 5kW system in one day. A battery backup one... more like 3 or 4 days, plus a few more times for commissioning wierdities... and that's just to get it up and running the first time... Someone described it this way if you want to generate power from the sun, get a grid-tie batteryless PV system. If you want hobby, get a battery backup PV system. And if you want a full time job, get a small wind turbine. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080210/ba576c91/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Green Developer?
Call your power company. In New Mexico PNM pays $0.12 a KW/h if you live in a populated area. On Feb 10, 2008, at 2:34 PM, NV Dhana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard lot about local utility buying your surplush power. Where can I find more about this progrmme. How much you expect to get for each kw you sell? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:07:29 -0700 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Green Developer? Hi Tom, I am going to try and address all three of your points in one comment. Batteryless PV setups are going to be the PV setup of choice in almost all instances for new homes built by a developer. The grid-tie systems can be installed in any home that has a local power company that willing to do buy back, roll back, or net meetering. Note that small towns are exempt normally from buying back power because there is often a coop or municpality procidng the power, not a real company. Finally, nearky all homes can take solar panels somewhere. If the roof is not ideal due to shade or orientation theb pole mounts, trackers, or ground mounts can be used. The term PV ready is silky as this list surmised early on. You can take either view that all homes are PV ready or none are. The truth is that some installs are just easier than others. On Feb 9, 2008, at 11:19 AM, Thomas Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mikey, Zeke, Thanks for the replies. The design changes required to make a house PV ready seems to be related to whether the PV system is designed to be off-grid capable or not. Off-grid requires batteries, inverter(s), charge controllers, grounding considerations, etc. that grid-tie batteryless PV systems do not need. 1. Would it be fair to suspect that a developer who is building 2nd homes (in a golf community) would lean towards batteryless PV ready houses? (I'll call and ask them.) 2. Is it fair to say that batteryless PV ready houses require little more than the ability to mount PV panels with southern exposure (in northern US). Given two, otherwise identical houses, one could be described as PV ready simply because it is un-shaded and provides for southern exposure. 3. Wouldn't many houses be batteryless PV ready in any above ground development if the total number of houses approaches 1000? Thanks again, Tom - Original Message - From: Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Green Developer?Mikey is right -- a battery based PV system is MUCH harder than a batteryless one. Our crew can usually complete a batteryless 5kW system in one day. A battery backup one... more like 3 or 4 days, plus a few more times for commissioning wierdities... and that's just to get it up and running the first time... Someone described it this way if you want to generate power from the sun, get a grid- tie batteryless PV system. If you want hobby, get a battery backup PV system. And if you want a full time job, get a small wind turbine. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080210/ba576c91/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Before You Vote for Hillary Clinton Read This
Hello Terry Anything is better than Bush and the Republicans That's altogether the wrong comparison. It's a bit like saying you'd rather die of a heart attack than of a brain haemorrhage. You'd rather be healthy, no? And die of nothing in particular at a ripe old age when it's time for you to die, like the old people in Shan's post about Weston Price. We'll be having some health, please, from American politics, and in American foreign policy, at long last, following many decades of quite the opposite. The world can't take any more American business-as-usual (and neither can America, whether they're too mesmerised to know it or not). Can't and I suspect won't. The original post in this thread, Before You Vote for Hillary Clinton Read This, has much to do with farmers in India, victims of Monsanto and the White House that preceded the Bush/Republican White House you say anything's better than, do you think the Indian farmers will agree with you? I hope you reply. Best Keith Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 07:59:18 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Before You Vote for Hillary Clinton Read This Hello Keith, Thanks for the post. I absolutely agree that the current parties or candidates are NOT the answer nor will they offer or implement any meaningful change.. However, I believe change is on the menu and there are other solutions. Mike Bloomberg is one option and even if he does not run, he is influencing the national debate. There are many Internet sties concerning this topic. I have listed just two. http://www.runmikerun.com/ http://www.runmikebloomberg.com/ Also the GAO (General Accounting Office) has some GREAT publications on the current and future financial crisis facing this country. Our time is running short. Two excellent GAO reports are listed below. http://www.gao.gov/cghome/d08489cg.pdf http://www.gao.gov/cghome/d08490cg.pdf This and much else (i.e. declining dollar, housing crisis, US war, etc) will force change. Hopefully. Regards, Tony Marzolino Berkshire, NY Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith Addison wrote: IMHO it's worth taking another, good, long, hard-eyed look at the Clinton presidency these days, just for the sake of a little perspective. Not much different from GW Bush, essentially the same, but with gloves on, not so in-your-face, less extreme. Not the solution. I'm not saying it's Hillary Clinton who's not the solution, it's the Other Business Party as a whole that's not the solution. It's time for change, and it's not on the menu. If voting worked it would be illegal. (British graffiti, 1980s.) Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Before You Vote for Hillary Clinton Read This
Anything is better than Bush and the Republicans Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 07:59:18 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Before You Vote for Hillary Clinton Read This Hello Keith, Thanks for the post. I absolutely agree that the current parties or candidates are NOT the answer nor will they offer or implement any meaningful change.. However, I believe change is on the menu and there are other solutions. Mike Bloomberg is one option and even if he does not run, he is influencing the national debate. There are many Internet sties concerning this topic. I have listed just two. http://www.runmikerun.com/ http://www.runmikebloomberg.com/ Also the GAO (General Accounting Office) has some GREAT publications on the current and future financial crisis facing this country. Our time is running short. Two excellent GAO reports are listed below. http://www.gao.gov/cghome/d08489cg.pdf http://www.gao.gov/cghome/d08490cg.pdf This and much else (i.e. declining dollar, housing crisis, US war, etc) will force change. Hopefully. Regards, Tony Marzolino Berkshire, NY Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith Addison wrote: IMHO it's worth taking another, good, long, hard-eyed look at the Clinton presidency these days, just for the sake of a little perspective. Not much different from GW Bush, essentially the same, but with gloves on, not so in-your-face, less extreme. Not the solution. I'm not saying it's Hillary Clinton who's not the solution, it's the Other Business Party as a whole that's not the solution. It's time for change, and it's not on the menu. If voting worked it would be illegal. (British graffiti, 1980s.) Best Keith - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080209/6d7a1cfb/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080211/032491d8/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Review - Nutrition and Physical Degeneration
Hello Shan Nutrition and Physical Degeneration _http://www.bookpleasures.com/Lore2/idx/11/2893/article/Nutrition_and_Physical _Degeneration.html_ (http://www.bookpleasures.com/Lore2/idx/11/2893/article/Nutrition_and_Physical_Degeneration.html) Author: Weston A. Price, D.D.S. ISBN: 0 - 87983 - 816 - 7 Full text free online here (and only here): http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library.html#price Nutrition and Physical Degeneration by Weston A. Price, 1939, Paul B. Hoeber, Inc, New York, London See also, with links to more reviews: http://journeytoforever.org/text_price.html The Darwin of nutrition The Weston A. Price Foundation is a better resource than the Price Pottenger Nutrition Foundation that Marjorie Tietjen links to: http://www.westonaprice.org/ Best Keith Reviewed by Marjorie Tietjen [below article] The foods we choose to eat and the manner in which we prepare them directly determines our health and the health of our children and grandchildren. Nowadays, dietary advice shifts with the wind. Fad diets and even advice from our supposed experts in the field of nutrition, is often based on monetary gain. As a result we are often in a state of confusion, perplexed as to which recommendations to follow. No sooner do we become certain that this is the right diet, then the opposite will be presented to us as fact. Everything is contradictory. ... ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
