[Biofuel] Paraguayans 'ill through GM crop pesticide' - 24 Aug 2008

2008-08-25 Thread doug swanson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKCqmuu5sag

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[Biofuel] Paraguayans 'ill through GM crop pesticide' - 24 Aug 2008

2008-08-25 Thread doug swanson
Scores of Paraguayan say that they are being driven from their 
communities by pesticides, but the government denies the claims.

Al Jazeera's Lucia Newman reports from San Pedro del Norte, Paraguay 
where locals are complaining that mass spraying of toxic chemicals on 
genetically modified crops near their homes is making them ill.

video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKCqmuu5sag




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Re: [Biofuel] Paraguayans 'ill through GM crop pesticide' - 24 Aug 2008 *#

2008-08-25 Thread yankeetrader
Dear Doug,

 I see you bought into Al Jazeera's headline.

 What is the Connection between the crop being GM and the harm caused by 
the pesticide?

Regards,

Wendell

From: doug swanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/08/25 Mon AM 07:27:06 EDT
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Subject: [Biofuel] Paraguayans 'ill through GM crop pesticide' - 24 Aug 2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKCqmuu5sag

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Re: [Biofuel] Paraguayans 'ill through GM crop pesticide' - 24 Aug 2008 *#

2008-08-25 Thread doug swanson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear Doug,

  I see you bought into Al Jazeera's headline.

  What is the Connection between the crop being GM and the harm caused by 
 the pesticide?

 Regards,

 Wendell

   
Nope, I've not bought into anything, merely copy and pasted the title 
into the email.  True, there's no mention of GM in the video...  has to 
do more with the pesticides used on the crops.  It's my opinion that 
crops grown naturally will maintain a natural resistance to pests, and 
while the pests may consume a percentage of the crop, the pests are a 
lesser bane to both the farmers, and the consumers of food, than 
whatever pesticides might be used to control the pests, (and in the 
process, killing the organisms, earthworms, bacteria, mycelium, in the 
soil that make for a living substrate for crops grown in it.)

As far as getting my news from Al Jazeera, yes, I do read it, and CNN, 
and PressTV, and Haaretz, and Democracy Now, The Hindu, Voice of 
America, Reuters, the list goes on and on...  Each one has their own 
style of spin, and like religions, each has a small thread ot truth that 
winds through it.  Careful analysis will expose truth amongst the 
spins...  Unless I am there, and have seen with my own eyes, all reports 
arriving at my eyes are suspect...

doug

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[Biofuel] Jonathan Swift quote

2008-08-25 Thread Kirk McLoren

  
 
   
  A THOUGHT FOR TODAY:
  For in reason, all government without the consent of the governed is the very 
definition of slavery. 
  -Jonathan Swift, satirist (1667-1745) 
   
  Understatement of the day: We have a lot of work to do to restore our 
Constitution   get our country back into the hands of we the people.
  Washington DC seems to be completely detached from the idea that they're 
there to serve and enhance public good. Examples abound:
   
  forced vaccinations
  routinely spying on all citizens
  huge corporate bailouts
  war or threat of war on all who disagree with Washington
  neglect of infrastructure
  corporate tax cuts
  weakening of environmental protection
  totally insufficient healthcare of military returning from mid-East wars
  irradiation of food
  sludge  pesticides used on crops
  aerial spraying of populated areas
  rigged elections
  extremely expensive healthcare plus total emphasis on drugs for all ailments
  media used as propaganda tool
  no bid contracts
  huge prison population (#1 in the world)
 
  ad infinitum

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[Biofuel] E85 Networking works!

2008-08-25 Thread Joe Street
I posted a message to both of these lists complaining about how I had 
such trouble buying ethanol 85 fuel on Friday.  Well, I'm not sure who 
my benefactor is but it had to be someone on one of these lists named 
Robin who got in touch with Greenfield Ethanol and I got a call from 
them today saying that I could get ethanol in research quantities from 
them. Or a tanker load!  Whomever you are Robin, I thank you and that 
was one hell of a great birthday present!

Joe


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Re: [Biofuel] Paraguayans 'ill through GM crop pesticide' - 24 Aug 2008 *#

2008-08-25 Thread Keith Addison
Most studies have found that use of pesticides with GM crops goes up, 
not down as promised by Monsanto et al.

Best

Keith


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dear Doug,

   I see you bought into Al Jazeera's headline.

   What is the Connection between the crop being GM and the harm 
caused by the pesticide?

  Regards,

  Wendell

  
Nope, I've not bought into anything, merely copy and pasted the title
into the email.  True, there's no mention of GM in the video...  has to
do more with the pesticides used on the crops.  It's my opinion that
crops grown naturally will maintain a natural resistance to pests, and
while the pests may consume a percentage of the crop, the pests are a
lesser bane to both the farmers, and the consumers of food, than
whatever pesticides might be used to control the pests, (and in the
process, killing the organisms, earthworms, bacteria, mycelium, in the
soil that make for a living substrate for crops grown in it.)

As far as getting my news from Al Jazeera, yes, I do read it, and CNN,
and PressTV, and Haaretz, and Democracy Now, The Hindu, Voice of
America, Reuters, the list goes on and on...  Each one has their own
style of spin, and like religions, each has a small thread ot truth that
winds through it.  Careful analysis will expose truth amongst the
spins...  Unless I am there, and have seen with my own eyes, all reports
arriving at my eyes are suspect...

doug

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