Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel in Canada
The government gives a gift to diesel mechanics and fuel filter retailers! Based on my experience running biodiesel in the Canadian winter vehicles will need heated fuel filters in the least. Heavy hauling rigs crossing the nation will need a heated tank and line system and a switchover manifold like you use for SVO in order to be reliable crossing western Canada in winter. I remember my friend the mechanic who looks after the public transit buses when they mandated biodiesel added to the fleet's fuel in Guelph Ontario (which aint that cold folks by Canadian standards) he was bitching about how bad biodiesel was and on and on since they had to change filters so frequently. This is another boon to the service industry like making it illegal to run with snow tires on only the drive wheels. I wonder how many good fuel filters will be tossed out due to gel plugging before they figure out how to solve it? But this is a big country. Plenty of room to bury fuel filters and rubber eh?. I hope they only blend it in summer. Maybe they will. Joe On 21/03/2011 7:59 AM, Keith Addison wrote: Hi Darryl Thankyou. Yes, B2, that'll hide a multitude of sins. But if you multiply those amounts of oil by 50, does it make sense in terms of Canada's petro-diesel consumption? Or maybe he'll be making it for export (but to where?). How can CRFA make all those grand claims for B2? At that low level it's not much more than just a lubricant. All best Keith I don't know who the specific potential customer is, but I expect the demand is related to this announcement. http://www.greenfuels.org/uploads/media_centre/2011%20news%20releases/021011-en2percentregsannouncement.pdf (or http://tinyurl.com/5smcn4e) From Canadian Renewable Fuels Association (CRFA) FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE February 10, 2011 BIODIESEL BLENDS NOW A REALITY IN CANADA New Federal Regulations Will Benefit Farmers and the Environment Ottawa: The Canadian Renewable Fuels Association (CRFA) today lauded the announcement of a national 2% biodiesel mandate in Canada as good news for consumers, farmers and energy diversity in Canada. This is a milestone day for homegrown renewable biodiesel in Canada. Biodiesel is a better way to drive and an innovative way to fuel our economy, said Gordon Quaiattini, CRFA president in reacting to the federal government's announcement of a 2 per cent Renewable Fuels Standard for biodiesel. Biodiesel is a cleaner alternative to conventional diesel. It will help moderate price by adding to our fuel supply, create new jobs, and benefit farmers and drivers alike. Biodiesel contains no petroleum and can be made from a variety of renewable raw materials, or feedstocks, including pure seed oils, animal fats and recycled cooking oils. It performs comparably to petroleum diesel in terms of fuel economy, horsepower and torque. Biodiesel is safe to use in all diesel vehicles, and also can be used as heating oil and in a variety of other applications, including marine transportation, electrical generation, farming equipment and mining operations. Biodiesel is 10 times less toxic than table salt and is as biodegradable as sugar. Independent studies have shown that Canadian produced biodiesel generates between 85 to 99 per cent less greenhouse gases, depending on feedstock, compared to conventional diesel fuel. From an economic perspective, renewable fuels such as ethanol and biodiesel in Canada are a substantial source of economic and financial benefit to rural Canada. Construction of biofuels facilities has generated roughly $3 billion in economic activity and ongoing operations represent a $2 billion annual economic contribution. For Canadian farmers, higher incomes that flow from the sale of surplus feedstock bring additional security and lessen reliance on income and safety net programs. Today's announcement sets the stage for Canada to become a world leader in advanced biofuels, added Mr. Quaiattini. The production and the commercialization of next generation advanced biofuels using state-of-the-art technologies and a wide variety of feedstocks is underway. Thanks to the entrepreneurial spirit of our biofuel pioneers and a stable policy environment the future is now for advanced biofuels in Canada. On 20/03/2011 10:19 AM, Keith Addison wrote: Hello all I got this enquiry - not very unusual, people often try to buy bulk oil from me, but this one's more bulky than most. Who could be planning to make so much biodiesel in Canada? Must be for biodiesel, I suppose. Good evening My name is xxx. I am a trade agent and I am writing because I have a client that needs the following types of oil fuels: 1. Rapeseed Oil (fuel) - 150,000 metric tons/month; 2. Palm Oil fuel - 50,000 MT/month; and 3. Sunflower Oil Fuel - 50,000 MT/month. Packaging: Bulk Could you please tell me IF you could sell him these types
Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel in Canada
I've found that I can run b100 down to about 25 with canola based b100, more like 35 with other types. I've never had gelling issues with B20 down to about 0F. Below that I haven't tried. With heated filters like you'd use for SVO I think you'd be fine once you got it up to temperature. Those heat the fuel to a minimum of 180f if they are properly designed, with fuel that's solid around 40f, so I think that they'd handle even bad quality B100 well into the negative temps. Changing filters is often because of the cleaning out of all the years of diesel gunk, not just gelling. When I switched to biodiesel in my Mitsubishi truck I clogged filters every 1000 miles for the first year-- 20 years of diesel deposits and a rusty tank. Then it's been fine after that except fir an occasional gelling issue in the fall when cold weather gets me with B100 still in the tank. Z On Friday, March 25, 2011, Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The government gives a gift to diesel mechanics and fuel filter retailers! Based on my experience running biodiesel in the Canadian winter vehicles will need heated fuel filters in the least. Heavy hauling rigs crossing the nation will need a heated tank and line system and a switchover manifold like you use for SVO in order to be reliable crossing western Canada in winter. I remember my friend the mechanic who looks after the public transit buses when they mandated biodiesel added to the fleet's fuel in Guelph Ontario (which aint that cold folks by Canadian standards) he was bitching about how bad biodiesel was and on and on since they had to change filters so frequently. This is another boon to the service industry like making it illegal to run with snow tires on only the drive wheels. I wonder how many good fuel filters will be tossed out due to gel plugging before they figure out how to solve it? But this is a big country. Plenty of room to bury fuel filters and rubber eh?. I hope they only blend it in summer. Maybe they will. Joe On 21/03/2011 7:59 AM, Keith Addison wrote: Hi Darryl Thankyou. Yes, B2, that'll hide a multitude of sins. But if you multiply those amounts of oil by 50, does it make sense in terms of Canada's petro-diesel consumption? Or maybe he'll be making it for export (but to where?). How can CRFA make all those grand claims for B2? At that low level it's not much more than just a lubricant. All best Keith I don't know who the specific potential customer is, but I expect the demand is related to this announcement. http://www.greenfuels.org/uploads/media_centre/2011%20news%20releases/021011-en2percentregsannouncement.pdf (or http://tinyurl.com/5smcn4e) From Canadian Renewable Fuels Association (CRFA) FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE February 10, 2011 BIODIESEL BLENDS NOW A REALITY IN CANADA New Federal Regulations Will Benefit Farmers and the Environment Ottawa: The Canadian Renewable Fuels Association (CRFA) today lauded the announcement of a national 2% biodiesel mandate in Canada as good news for consumers, farmers and energy diversity in Canada. This is a milestone day for homegrown renewable biodiesel in Canada. Biodiesel is a better way to drive and an innovative way to fuel our economy, said Gordon Quaiattini, CRFA president in reacting to the federal government's announcement of a 2 per cent Renewable Fuels Standard for biodiesel. Biodiesel is a cleaner alternative to conventional diesel. It will help moderate price by adding to our fuel supply, create new jobs, and benefit farmers and drivers alike. Biodiesel contains no petroleum and can be made from a variety of renewable raw materials, or feedstocks, including pure seed oils, animal fats and recycled cooking oils. It performs comparably to petroleum diesel in terms of fuel economy, horsepower and torque. Biodiesel is safe to use in all diesel vehicles, and also can be used as heating oil and in a variety of other applications, including marine transportation, electrical generation, farming equipment and mining operations. Biodiesel is 10 times less toxic than table salt and is as biodegradable as sugar. Independent studies have shown that Canadian produced biodiesel generates between 85 to 99 per cent less greenhouse gases, depending on feedstock, compared to conventional diesel fuel. From an economic perspective, renewable fuels such as ethanol and biodiesel in Canada are a substantial source of economic and financial benefit to rural Canada. Construction of biofuels facilities has generated roughly $3 billion in economic activity and ongoing operations represent a $2 billion annual economic contribution. For Canadian farmers, higher incomes that flow from the sale of surplus feedstock bring additional security and lessen reliance on income and safety net programs. Today's announcement sets the stage for Canada to become a world leader in advanced biofuels, added Mr. Quaiattini. The production
Re: [Biofuel] Why Fukushima made me stop worrying and love nuclear power (George Monbiot)
So, was that George guy serious? I mean, calling a disaster all tidied up with negligible impact while citing a chart from a comic writer (albeit a very scientifically inclined author) as evidence that this whole thing really sheds a good light on nuclear boarders on unethical. We here in the US have a good appetite for unethical journalism, mind, but did I miss something? Was he serious? -hoj ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Why Fukushima made me stop worrying and love nuclear power (George Monbiot)
Well, I have a lot of respect for George Monbiot. However, I think the nuclear business folks haven't just been sitting on their hands these last few decades, they've been working very hard on winning support from their own enemies. They are anything but stupid. - Original Message - From: Dave Hajoglou [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 12:30:15 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Why Fukushima made me stop worrying and love nuclear power (George Monbiot) So, was that George guy serious? I mean, calling a disaster all tidied up with negligible impact while citing a chart from a comic writer (albeit a very scientifically inclined author) as evidence that this whole thing really sheds a good light on nuclear boarders on unethical. We here in the US have a good appetite for unethical journalism, mind, but did I miss something? Was he serious? -hoj ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Why Fukushima made me stop worrying and love nuclear power (George Monbiot)
I fear that, despite Keith's occasional promptings to the contrary, I still had no great love for George Monbiot anyway. The latest merely confirms my earlier misgivings. My own position, in which the Green is rather overshadowed by the Black, represents one of the few angles from which George's cloven hoof is really visible. To me he has always been far too much the eco-authoritarian, for whom ecological survival could never really, thoroughly, consummately co-exist with personal liberty. His localism seems thin and superficial, his centralism runs much deeper. An appreciation for obscure local apple cultivars gave George Monbiot a chance. He has blown it now. -Dawie Coetzee From: Chip Mefford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Fri, 25 March, 2011 19:03:09 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Why Fukushima made me stop worrying and love nuclear power (George Monbiot) Well, I have a lot of respect for George Monbiot. However, I think the nuclear business folks haven't just been sitting on their hands these last few decades, they've been working very hard on winning support from their own enemies. They are anything but stupid. - Original Message - From: Dave Hajoglou [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 12:30:15 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Why Fukushima made me stop worrying and love nuclear power (George Monbiot) So, was that George guy serious? I mean, calling a disaster all tidied up with negligible impact while citing a chart from a comic writer (albeit a very scientifically inclined author) as evidence that this whole thing really sheds a good light on nuclear boarders on unethical. We here in the US have a good appetite for unethical journalism, mind, but did I miss something? Was he serious? -hoj ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20110325/42c26c3e/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Why Fukushima made me stop worrying and love nuclear power (George Monbiot)
On 3/25/2011 10:38 AM, Dawie Coetzee wrote: I fear that, despite Keith's occasional promptings to the contrary, I still had no great love for George Monbiot anyway. The latest merely confirms my earlier misgivings. My own position, in which the Green is rather overshadowed by the Black, represents one of the few angles from which George's cloven hoof is really visible. To me he has always been far too much the eco-authoritarian, for whom ecological survival could never really, thoroughly, consummately co-exist with personal liberty. His localism seems thin and superficial, his centralism runs much deeper. An appreciation for obscure local apple cultivars gave George Monbiot a chance. He has blown it now. Ok, it's one thing to dismiss the article offhand because it doesn't harmonize with the overall theme of local energy and food production, but I would like to ask the list what I believe is an important question. Mr. Monibot mentioned that pre-industrial England did not support a very comfortable lifestyle for most of its inhabitants, and that full reliance on solar, wind and biomass would move English society backward without nuclear power. Does it follow that a reduction in energy use and reliance on renewables would necessarily result in massive declines in both industrial output and citizen comfort? (I'm also thinking of that article Keith posted a few weeks ago, in which analysis of coal consumption in Industrial Revolution England actually INCREASED with improvements in efficiency.) Can we support large populations in the industrialized nations without fossil and nuclear power? I can envision a personal lifestyle in which my energy needs are significantly reduced, and I think we--as a society--could make substantial progress in better fitting solar energy to demand. (Using solar thermal air conditioning is a good example.) But someone still needs to make appliances and sundries. The equipment to convert diffuse energy into electricity and heat must be manufactured, somehow. Where is the energy going to come from for these activities? How can we work with metals, and perform other energy-intensive tasks, without massive power plants? Or, is Mr. Monibot's either / or scenario completely off base altogether? When I hear talk of energy independence, it's usually in the context of substituting one form of energy for another, or blind insistence that the environment matters less than our need for energy and we should drill and dig with renewed vigor. I don't hear a lot of willingness to re-organize our cities, invest in public transit and move away from factory farms. Our current economic model enjoys an almost mystical reverence, and none of its underlying assumptions can be challenged without accusations of socialism (or worse) being flung about. But even IF we could come up with a new form of economic policy, where is the dense energy for manufacturing going to come from? It's clear that we'll need to keep on building things, so HOW can that happen? robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice The Long Journey New Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
