Re: [Biofuel] Corporate Interests (was: Allergies (was: Organic Farming Yields)
Hi Keith and List...I'd like to suggest that corporate interests, wherever we might find them, are not merely a small handful of people who are greedy, but also the many workers who work for them who are needy, along with all the investors who knowingly or unknowingly (through 401k type vehicles etc) invest in these interests, the governments that support them, the communities that rely on their presence and maybe someone could kick in a few more adjunct beneficiaries of these corporate interests. In the end, it really is everyone contributing in some way, shape or form to whatever problems we all share. Please note, I am not trying to defend these interests, but merely pointing out their broad scope. Not sure how so many folks can walk away from it all and try making lives for themselves apart from it. What would everyone do? How should everyone live? Again, I am not trying to defend anyone. I just don't believe the problem, whatever it is, can be summarily dismissed by blaming corporate interests. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Allergies (was: Organic Farming Yields) Hi Chip I suppose most folks are aware that there is a radical increase in food allergies or sensitivities worldwide, that is growing all the time. Folks becoming intolerant to food products in ways never even heard of just a generation ago. I've heard conjecture that the base causality may possibly be traceable to the radical increases in worldwide personal hygiene and the strong trend to urbanization with folks being exposed less and less to regular ole dirt. While that kinda makes sense to me, I keep thinking that it may be at least as likely that the root cause may be found in the decrease in the quality of the food supply. Not in calories or even in proteins and vitamins, but the drastic increase in 'artificial' toxins (pesticides and herbicides) in the food supply around the world. Has anyone read or heard of any developing hypothesis along these lines? Just curious. -- The average Englishman eats 10 pounds (4.5 kg) of food additives a year. More than 5,000 additives are used in the food industry; almost nothing is known about their synergistic effects. In 1815 the annual consumption of sugar per capita in the UK was about 12 lb; by 1955 it was 110 lb. US News says in 1967 Americans ate 114 pounds of sugar per capita a year, in 2003 it was about 142 pounds, much of it high-fructose corn syrup (plus aspartame etc). Since 1950, per capita soft-drink consumption in the US quadrupled from about 11 gallons per year to about 46 gallons in 2003. Meanwhile the amount of sheer processing that the food (?) most people eat undergoes has increased massively in the last three decades; denatured is hardly the word (since that assumes nature had something to do with it in the first place). Pesticide residues in the food aside, what's the toxic load (overload) on the environment these days? The US alone uses 30 million pounds of malathion a year, for a start. Dioxin, PAHs, carbofuran, endocrine disrupters ... The whole ghastly cocktail is in the air, the water, the soil, drenching everything around you. Are there 80,000 synthetic chemicals in use now or did it hit 100,000 yet? It's rather amazing that the biosphere manages to go on absorbing it all without collapsing completely. The signs of stress are everywhere though. In humans, increases in food allergies would be one, increases in the new multi-symptom systemic illnesses another, the behavioural changes in kids (and not only kids) another, and so on and on. Kids are dying of diseases formerly found only in old people. Time for the Precautionary Principle at long last? Or is it too late for that already? Who knows, but I don't think so, not quite yet. Maybe the big question is whether the corporate interests that benefit from all this stuff think (?) they've screwed enough profit out of the risk assessment approach yet (read Ford Pinto, eg). But I think the word enough is not in their lexicon. Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):
[Biofuel] Fw: water and electricity as fuel!
Ok List...what's up with this? Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: John DuPree [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Arvilla [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Pat DuPree [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mike DuPree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 8:30 PM Subject: water and electricity as fuel! boy, this could get us all going in the right direction: http://livedigital.com/content/287275/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Canada and The World Eyes Arctic Resources
Informative article on how the world is running dry (Russian oil empty by 2030) and seeking resources in the Arctic, but apparently not without a Canadian fight, to defend our sovereignty and Canada First. The world is changing, says Stephen Harper, the Canadian Prime Minister, although not sure how his observation that the world is changing relates to Canadian sovereignty. Also on the effects of global warming on the North-west passage. http://environment.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/story/0,,2123457,00.html Canada Flexes Its Muscles in Scramble for the Arctic By Ed Pilkington The Guardian UK Wednesday 11 July 2007 Eight countries lay claim to oil-rich, unspoilt region. Global warming opens up fabled Northwest Passage. It is not the kind of militaristic statement expected of the peace-loving Canadians. In front of a choreographed line-up of 120 sailors in their summer whites at a naval base outside Victoria in British Columbia, the prime minister, Stephen Harper, gave a warning to other nations with their eye on the potentially oil-rich Arctic. Canada has a choice when it comes to defending our sovereignty over the Arctic, he said. We either use it or lose it. And make no mistake, this government intends to use it. In other places at other times his words could be dismissed as posturing. But he backed them up with the chequebook, announcing that he was ordering up to eight military patrol ships that would be converted for use in ice up to a metre thick, and a new deep-water port that would service them. Total bill: C$7bn (£3.3bn). Mr Harper's message, and the belligerent style in which it was delivered, are a sign that the Arctic, the vast ice-covered ocean around the North Pole, is hotting up - both literally, through global warming, and metaphorically as a political issue. With Canada, Denmark, Russia and the United States all having claims on the region, together with those of Iceland, Norway, Sweden and Finland, international tension in the region is mounting. There was no dissembling in Mr Harper's speech. The ongoing discovery of the north's resource riches, coupled with the potential impact of climate change, has made the region a growing area of interest and concern, he said. As the statement implies, two areas of international competition lie behind the Canadian prime minister's actions. The first is that the Arctic region is rich in natural resources. It is thought to hold up to a quarter of the world's undiscovered reserves of oil and gas, which as the established fields in the Middle East and elsewhere run dry will become increasingly valuable and sought after. There are also known to be major deposits of diamonds, silver, copper, zinc and, potentially, uranium. It also has rich fish stocks. Desire to exploit these resources has led to tensions with the US over the offshore border between Alaska and Canada, an area known as the wedge, where one day oil and gas exploration could prove to be lucrative. The area above the North Pole, which under international law is an area owned by nobody, has also started to be targeted. Last month Russia astonished observers of the region by announcing a virtual land grab of about 400,000 square miles, using the premise that an underwater shelf known as the Lomonosov ridge connects its Arctic territories with the North Pole. The claim was met with sceptical snorts by many Arctic scientists, who pointed out that Russia's existing oil reserves are likely to be depleted by 2030. The second area of dispute concerns the holy grail of commercial shipping: the North-west Passage. Once opened, it would shorten the maritime trade route from Europe to Asia by some 2,150 nautical miles from the current navigation through the Panama canal. Efforts to find a way through the perilous icy seas of the Arctic archipelago, linking the ocean with the Pacific, first begun under Martin Frobisher in the 1570s, have claimed many lives, most famously those of Sir John Franklin and his team of 128 men who disappeared in 1845. But what human effort failed to achieve is now happening through human pollution as global warming starts to open the route by melting the ice cap. Since 2000, commercial shipping has been able to negotiate the route during a short summer period, and scientists expect that annual sliver of time to grow as the ice covers thin. Canada has long claimed the passage as its own by virtue of its sovereignty over the archipelago but it has had to do so increasingly in the face of US competition. Washington classifies the passage as neutral waters because it claims that Canadian sovereignty only extends a limited distance from the shore and it has outraged Canadian opinion by sending nuclear submarines through the strait. Dr Pete Ewin, an expert in conservation with the Canadian branch of WWF, sees the mounting
[Biofuel] Japan Energy Use
Japanese fuel use UP, although nuclear power DOWN due to jump in oil consumption. *DJ Japan June Power Output Up 2.2 % On Year -Industry Body Wed Jul 11 21:58:42 2007 EDT (MORE TO FOLLOW) Dow Jones Newswires *DJ Japan June Power Output 79.09KWh - Industry Body Wed Jul 11 21:58:57 2007 EDT (MORE TO FOLLOW) Dow Jones Newswires *DJ Japan Utilities June LNG Use 3.42M Tons Vs 2.95M Tons Wed Jul 11 21:59:26 2007 EDT (MORE TO FOLLOW) Dow Jones Newswires *DJ Japan Utilities June Crude Oil Use 670,019 Vs 372,558 Wed Jul 11 21:59:56 2007 EDT (MORE TO FOLLOW) Dow Jones Newswires *DJ Japan Utilities June Heavy Fuel Use 716,107 Vs 484,643 Wed Jul 11 22:00:16 2007 EDT (MORE TO FOLLOW) Dow Jones Newswires *DJ Japan Utilities June Coal Use 3.77M Tons Vs 3.64M Tons Wed Jul 11 22:00:39 2007 EDT (MORE TO FOLLOW) Dow Jones Newswires DJ OIL DATA: Japan June Power Output Up 2.2% At 79.09B KWh Wed Jul 11 22:09:30 2007 EDT TOKYO (Dow Jones)--Electricity generated by Japan's 10 regional power utilities in June rose 2.2% on year to 79.09 billion kilowatt-hours due to strong industrial demand, the Federation of Electric Power Companies said Thursday. The utilities used 670,019 kiloliters of crude oil in the month, up from 372,558 kiloliters a year ago, the federation said. The jump in oil consumption from a year ago was due to a lower operating rate at Japan's nuclear power plants. -By Mari Iwata, Dow Jones Newswires; 813-5255-2929; [EMAIL PROTECTED] (END) Dow Jones Newswires___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Street Rodder Magazine editorial endorses EVs
Some inaccuracies? Uhh...like NOT!!! Never was into hot rods myself, except one summer afternoon when I found myself sitting in my neighbor's shell of his '48 Plymouth with a 400hp block laying down rubber and smoke for at least a city block!!! GAWD...awesome!!! Electric hot rods? LOL...I note the writer doesn't tell how many people showed up at the electric runs in various cities, but I would bet what few were there probably were all were wearing Berkinstocks and not sneakers and stiffer leathered shoes and boots. Whatever. Nice try, however, on the writer's part to begin trying to infiltrate the hot rod mind with the need to change fuel source. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Dawie Coetzee To: Biofuels Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 7:07 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Street Rodder Magazine editorial endorses EVs Some inaccuracies, but: http://www.streetrodderweb.com/editorial/0708sr_for_starters/ August 2007 - For Starters Alternative Powerplant and the Hot Rod By Brian Brennan Street Rodder Magazine, August 2007 Every hot rod has one significant focal point-the engine. In all my years of looking at, riding in, and writing about hot rods, the engine is always treated with a great deal of respect regardless of the builder's intent. And rightfully so; the American hot rod has always been about the V-8. It doesn't matter from where in Detroit your V-8 came-it is uniquely American. The roots of hot rodding have always been deeply embedded in the V-8, but that is going to change. Not today, not tomorrow, but someday. Heresy, one might say. I am not talking about fours, sixes, or other combinations taking over the mantle; I am talking about something silent. The electric car, in one of its variations, is here to stay in our everyday lives. Success of our lifestyle, and the health of our planet, dictates that we come up with an alternative yet effective fuel source. Fossil fuels have done yeoman duty for our society, but the time has come. It will not happen in time for this year's Nats, but we will begin to see street rods with electric power somewhere down the road. They already exist, more as an oddity, a curiosity, and something to entertain, but not to be fully accepted. It's similar to the way people looked at the early days of the car, television, flight, or space travel. But just as we grew up thinking Pluto was a planet only to find out last year it isn't, life brings about change. History is full of inventions people viewed as oddities and surely not to be taken seriously. However, there are street rods that run sub-13s in the quarter-mile and can cover 300 miles between recharging. Yes, recharging. There are dragsters, drag bikes, stockers, and modifieds that run much more quickly-and they do it silently and emissions-free. Oh, did I mention the electric street rod can also be several hundred pounds lighter than its counterpart, has all of the modern amenities, and packaging is no longer an issue? Overheating is a thing of the past, and-in the irony of ironies category-they are easily registered; electric hot rods do not come under the same social disdain that their gasoline-powered brethren currently suffer in the eyes of the local DMV. The electric car is more efficient than the current internal-combustion engine required to move us from point A to point B. Seventy-eight percent of commuters drive 40 miles or less to and from work. The number of U.S. survey respondents willing to pay $4,000 more for a plug-in hybrid car increased from 17 percent in 2005 to 26 percent in 2006. I am told that electric engines can routinely run at 89 percent efficiency. Generally speaking, the basic street rod motor will be somewhere in the 80th (or lower) percentile. (Although the modern modular V-8s are more efficient than conventional V-8s.) If you recently filled your gas tank, you realize the monetary impact it is having on your lifestyle. Experts are predicting the electricity cost per mile should be about one-half of the cost of gasoline for a regular car. It is also reported that electric vehicles (EVs) can get you to work and back for around $10 per month. While all of this may sound as if I am predicting the doom of hot rodding and the V-8, I am not. But I am saying that we may have to make changes in our everyday lives so we can continue to enjoy the cruise nights, rod runs, and long drives we so cherish. There was a time in history when the electric car outsold the gasoline-powered car. Early in the 20th century, National City Lines-which was a partnership of GM, Firestone, and Standard Oil-purchased many electric tram networks, dismantled them, and replaced them with GM buses. The partnership was convicted for this conspiracy, but the ruling was overturned in a higher court. Here's something to give you a taste if electric power intrigues
Re: [Biofuel] Have you seen this?
Well...I'm sure that for some seeing still won't be believing...thanks Kirk. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren To: biofuel Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 11:12 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Have you seen this? http://rense.com/general70/microwaved.htm -- Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Bush Calls For Development Of National Air Conditioner
Cool!...pun intended - Original Message - From: John Mullan To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Bush Calls For Development Of National Air Conditioner Yes. Indeed. But let's take this one step further if anyone is game. I'll start To help keep our homes cool, some of us pull down the shades. So let's build a HUGE shade in orbit of sufficient size to shade North America. Now, not totally opaque you understand. But more like a screen in order to allow some of the natural light through. We wouldn't want to kill off all the plants. Cheers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MK DuPree Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 10:21 PM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Bush Calls For Development Of National Air Conditioner The Onion is mostly satire, geared toward general goofiness. The purpose is not to present the news, but to present satire in a news format, to make fun of politicians and whatever else needs a good poking...comprende - Original Message - From: Andres Secco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Bush Calls For Development Of National Air Conditioner UH? Onion owned - Original Message - From: MK DuPree [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Bush Calls For Development Of National Air Conditioner LOL...it's The Onion, man...satire... - Original Message - From: Andres Secco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Bush Calls For Development Of National Air Conditioner Can´t believe this, a complete bullshit. Does anyone in the american government know the second principle of thermodynamics? Seems not. I am sure that congressmen can´t understand such a complex concept but the others? The reputed universities in the country, come'on. This is a fake - Original Message - From: Bruno M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 2:33 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Bush Calls For Development Of National Air Conditioner The answer from Bush on Global Warming. ;-) Grts Bruno M. ~ www.theonion.com/content/news/addressing_climate_crisis_bush Addressing Climate Crisis, Bush Calls For Development Of National Air Conditioner June 20, 2007 | Issue 43.25 WASHINGTON, DCIn a nationally televised address reminiscent of President Kennedy's historic 1961 speech pledging to put a man on the moon, President Bush responded to the global warming crisis Monday by calling for the construction of a giant national air conditioner by the year 2015. www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Rising-Temperatures.article.jpg Concept art shows how the 800-mile-wide device would function on a high cool setting. Climate change is real and it demands a real solution, Bush said. Therefore, I am committed to dedicating all of the technology, all of the brainpower, and all of the resources we need in order to keep America cool and comfortable well into the 21st century. The National Air Conditioner Initiative is expected to be the largest public works project in the nation's history. Because technology capable of creating an air conditioner that can fulfill the cooling needs of a continental land mass does not presently exist, the president estimated that research and development alone will require at least $100 trillion in both federal and private sector funds. The challenge of building an air conditioner for all Americans will be the greatest we have ever faced, Bush said. But we must face it. We must act now to ensure that our children and our children's children can live in a world where they don't get sweaty and have to change their shirts all the time. While Bush's speech left many questions unanswered, such as whether the one-touch cooling settings would be under federal or state jurisdiction, reaction from congressional Democrats and Republicans has been largely favorable. I applaud the administration for finally taking this issue seriously, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said. Such a giant apparatus means that Americans from all walks of life, not just the wealthy and privileged
[Biofuel] Super bacteria variants invading European countries
http://english.people.com.cn:80//200706/28/eng20070628_388385.html Super bacteria variants invading European countries European consumers may have to live life on tenterhooks once again. According to a report published on June 25th, by a British organic food advocacy organization, Soil Association, a new type of super bacteria variant (MRSA) was found in countries including the Netherlands, Denmark, Belgium, and Germany. Moreover, some meats infected with these bacteria were discovered in slaughterhouses in the Netherlands. Nearly half of pig farms were found carrying the bacteria. Given this grim situation, the organization believes that a large number of meat products in British supermarkets, that have been imported from the Netherlands, such as pork, beef and chicken, may have been infected with the super bacteria MRSA. Therefore it has urged the British government to quarantine the country's imported meat products. Bacteria variants blustering in the Netherlands MRSA is an abbreviation for Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus Aaureus. Since it was first discovered in 1961, MRSA became one of the most highly infectious pathogens within hospitals in the world in late 1980s. In 2005 alone, 3,800 people died from an MRSA infection in Britain. According to the Soil Association, MRSA found in the Netherlands, Denmark, Belgium and Germany is different from the one found in the United Kingdom. It is a new form of Staphylococcus aureus, known as ST398. It has developed a resistance commonly used antibiotics. ST398 can cause skin infections, as well as infect the heart and bones. The report said that about 39% of the pigs under inspection, in nine slaughterhouses in the Netherlands last year, tested positive for MRSA while in quarantine. The department responsible for food safety and production in the Netherlands has discovered in further tests that about 20% of pork, 21% of chicken, and 3% of beef products are carrying the bacteria. The Netherlands is a major exporter of animal products; it exports more than six million pigs annually to neighboring countries. What is of greater concern is that in the Netherlands, almost half of the pig farms were found to be carrying this new type of MRSA. The bacteria-carrying rate is 1500 times of that of the total population of the country. In this major pig-raising region, 80% of infections originated from livestock carrying the bacteria. Quarantine needed on imported meats TheSoil Association pointed out in its report that about two-thirds of pork consumed in Britain is imported from the Netherlands every year. Therefore, pork, beef and chicken products in British supermarkets may have been infected with this new type of MRSA. The reason why Britain has not detected this new type of MRSA, the report said, is probably because the British authorities do not place under quarantine any imported pork and chicken products. At present, the British Food Standards Agency only inspects beef- the products that with the lowest rate of infection. To this end, the Soil Association called on the British government to carry out immediate testing of meat products to determine whether or not they carry this new type of MRSA. Member of Soil Association, Richard Young, said the new type of MRSA will sooner or later spread throughout the United Kingdom. Since most British farms use antibiotics, this new form of MRSA will do even greater damage because of its resistance to the drug. The British government should perform routine quarantine checks on imported meat and livestock. Suggestion: Meat should be prepared well-done Although the Soil Association report described the MRSA threat as imminent; a spokesman for the British Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Department reiterated that Britain has not discovered any single case of MRSA yet. The department has had a positive attitude towards monitoring MRSA, and has kept in close contact with medical experts. However, the Food Standards Agency also urged consumers to take the same approach to MRSA as they did to Salmonella. Using the correct method for cooking meat can eliminate MRSA. Experts also pointed out that cooking meat well-done can kill bacteria. People may also be infected when handling raw meat. Therefore, people must wash their hands after touching raw meat and before eating, because even a small scratch on the nose may lead to infection. By People's Daily Online ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Bush Calls For Development Of National Air Conditioner
LOL...it's The Onion, man...satire... - Original Message - From: Andres Secco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Bush Calls For Development Of National Air Conditioner Can´t believe this, a complete bullshit. Does anyone in the american government know the second principle of thermodynamics? Seems not. I am sure that congressmen can´t understand such a complex concept but the others? The reputed universities in the country, come'on. This is a fake - Original Message - From: Bruno M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 2:33 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Bush Calls For Development Of National Air Conditioner The answer from Bush on Global Warming. ;-) Grts Bruno M. ~ www.theonion.com/content/news/addressing_climate_crisis_bush Addressing Climate Crisis, Bush Calls For Development Of National Air Conditioner June 20, 2007 | Issue 43.25 WASHINGTON, DCIn a nationally televised address reminiscent of President Kennedy's historic 1961 speech pledging to put a man on the moon, President Bush responded to the global warming crisis Monday by calling for the construction of a giant national air conditioner by the year 2015. www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Rising-Temperatures.article.jpg Concept art shows how the 800-mile-wide device would function on a high cool setting. Climate change is real and it demands a real solution, Bush said. Therefore, I am committed to dedicating all of the technology, all of the brainpower, and all of the resources we need in order to keep America cool and comfortable well into the 21st century. The National Air Conditioner Initiative is expected to be the largest public works project in the nation's history. Because technology capable of creating an air conditioner that can fulfill the cooling needs of a continental land mass does not presently exist, the president estimated that research and development alone will require at least $100 trillion in both federal and private sector funds. The challenge of building an air conditioner for all Americans will be the greatest we have ever faced, Bush said. But we must face it. We must act now to ensure that our children and our children's children can live in a world where they don't get sweaty and have to change their shirts all the time. While Bush's speech left many questions unanswered, such as whether the one-touch cooling settings would be under federal or state jurisdiction, reaction from congressional Democrats and Republicans has been largely favorable. I applaud the administration for finally taking this issue seriously, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said. Such a giant apparatus means that Americans from all walks of life, not just the wealthy and privileged, will be able to get relief from the rise in the Earth's surface temperature. And it will create a great many jobs. Just removing and rinsing out the huge filter will require tens of thousands of seasonal laborers. Petrochemical industry leaders voiced early support of the plan, which would stimulate additional exploration and production of oil and gas to satisfy the machine's staggering energy needs. Some fiscal conservatives, however, decry the cost of the project and the gargantuan electric bills that would result, saying that a series of mile-high oscillating fans stationed in the Pacific Northwest and blowing in the direction of the jet stream would accomplish essentially the same thing and save billions. Conservative commentator Pat Buchanan expressed his concern that illegal aliens would benefit unfairly from the air conditioner, since many of them work outside, and questioned President Bush's ability to seal the nation's borders in order to keep the cool air in. Environmental groups like the Sierra Club have taken a tough stance on the president's plan, demanding it contain legally binding language that ensures the air conditioner will be switched to a special energy-conserving sleep setting when the country cools off at night. The White House has shown interest in an economy mode option that could be used in the event of a budgetary crisis, but it is still unknown whether such a massive unit would qualify for an Energy Star certification, let alone accommodate built-in money-saving features. The strongest opposition to the plan has come from Canada. Because the proposed National Air Conditioner would cover 90 percent of the state of North Dakota and face south, the U.S.'s northern neighbor would be directly in the path of superheated air expelled from the machine's back vents. Though Prime Minister Stephen Harper said this would create drought conditions and devastate their farmlands, most believe Canada lacks the clout to halt Bush's air-conditioning
Re: [Biofuel] Bush Calls For Development Of National Air Conditioner
The Onion is mostly satire, geared toward general goofiness. The purpose is not to present the news, but to present satire in a news format, to make fun of politicians and whatever else needs a good poking...comprende - Original Message - From: Andres Secco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Bush Calls For Development Of National Air Conditioner UH? Onion owned - Original Message - From: MK DuPree [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Bush Calls For Development Of National Air Conditioner LOL...it's The Onion, man...satire... - Original Message - From: Andres Secco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Bush Calls For Development Of National Air Conditioner Can´t believe this, a complete bullshit. Does anyone in the american government know the second principle of thermodynamics? Seems not. I am sure that congressmen can´t understand such a complex concept but the others? The reputed universities in the country, come'on. This is a fake - Original Message - From: Bruno M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 2:33 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Bush Calls For Development Of National Air Conditioner The answer from Bush on Global Warming. ;-) Grts Bruno M. ~ www.theonion.com/content/news/addressing_climate_crisis_bush Addressing Climate Crisis, Bush Calls For Development Of National Air Conditioner June 20, 2007 | Issue 43.25 WASHINGTON, DCIn a nationally televised address reminiscent of President Kennedy's historic 1961 speech pledging to put a man on the moon, President Bush responded to the global warming crisis Monday by calling for the construction of a giant national air conditioner by the year 2015. www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Rising-Temperatures.article.jpg Concept art shows how the 800-mile-wide device would function on a high cool setting. Climate change is real and it demands a real solution, Bush said. Therefore, I am committed to dedicating all of the technology, all of the brainpower, and all of the resources we need in order to keep America cool and comfortable well into the 21st century. The National Air Conditioner Initiative is expected to be the largest public works project in the nation's history. Because technology capable of creating an air conditioner that can fulfill the cooling needs of a continental land mass does not presently exist, the president estimated that research and development alone will require at least $100 trillion in both federal and private sector funds. The challenge of building an air conditioner for all Americans will be the greatest we have ever faced, Bush said. But we must face it. We must act now to ensure that our children and our children's children can live in a world where they don't get sweaty and have to change their shirts all the time. While Bush's speech left many questions unanswered, such as whether the one-touch cooling settings would be under federal or state jurisdiction, reaction from congressional Democrats and Republicans has been largely favorable. I applaud the administration for finally taking this issue seriously, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said. Such a giant apparatus means that Americans from all walks of life, not just the wealthy and privileged, will be able to get relief from the rise in the Earth's surface temperature. And it will create a great many jobs. Just removing and rinsing out the huge filter will require tens of thousands of seasonal laborers. Petrochemical industry leaders voiced early support of the plan, which would stimulate additional exploration and production of oil and gas to satisfy the machine's staggering energy needs. Some fiscal conservatives, however, decry the cost of the project and the gargantuan electric bills that would result, saying that a series of mile-high oscillating fans stationed in the Pacific Northwest and blowing in the direction of the jet stream would accomplish essentially the same thing and save billions. Conservative commentator Pat Buchanan expressed his concern that illegal aliens would benefit unfairly from the air conditioner, since many of them work outside, and questioned President Bush's ability to seal the nation's borders in order to keep the cool air in. Environmental groups like the Sierra Club have taken a tough stance on the president's plan, demanding it contain legally binding language that ensures the air conditioner will be switched to a special energy-conserving sleep setting when the country cools off at night. The White House has shown interest in an economy mode
[Biofuel] U.S. Mayors Pledge to Fight Global Warming
The ball is in motion. The effort is becoming realized on the local level. Let the naysayers whine about whether it's enough or not or something else should happen, but at least THIS is happening. Now we can all contact our Mayors and ask if he or she attended and is our community on board. Now we have someone we can look in the eye. Now each of us have no excuse for not doing something. Local...the ramifications are mindboggling, if we will let our minds be boggled and our mouths speak. Mike DuPree http://english.people.com.cn:80//200706/24/eng20070624_387161.html U.S. mayors pledge to fight global warming More than 200 mayors from across the United States pledged on Saturday to join efforts in fighting global climate change. The mayors reached consensus at the U.S. Conference of Mayors being held here that protecting the climate will be a central part of their efforts to strengthen the nation, according to conference sources. Addressing the conference on Saturday, California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger applauded the mayors for their support in fighting climate change. Whether it is (New York) Mayor Bloomberg using hybrids to create the largest and cleanest fleet of taxis in the world, or ( Los Angeles) Mayor (Antonio) Villaraigosa transforming the L.A. Department of Water and Power to help reduce greenhouse gas emissions, your leadership is more important than ever, said Schwarzenegger. By taking action to make sure the people in your communities are doing their part for the environment, you are sending a powerful message to the federal government and to the rest of the world. And that is exactly what we have been doing in California. More than 500 mayors have signed the Climate Protection Agreement to meet Kyoto greenhouse gas standards by 2012, according to Schwarzenegger. Last year, Schwarzenegger signed into law the Global Warming Solutions Act of 2006 which places an economy-wide cap on greenhouse gas emissions and requires a reduction of emissions in California to 1990 levels by 2020. He has also set administrative targets to reduce greenhouse gas emissions in the state to 80 percent below 1990 levels by 2050. To fight climate change, California is party to Memorandums of Understanding with other states, nations and Canadian provinces, including Arizona, New Mexico, Oregon, Washington, Utah, the State of Victoria in Australia, and British Columbia, Ontario and Manitoba in Canada, according to Schwarzenegger. These agreements are important because they expand markets for clean fuels, cars and emissions credits across borders, allowing emission reductions at the lowest possible cost. California is working with other governments so that reporting, measuring, verifying and emissions markets have consistent protocols. Through the agreements, California is able to share and receive valuable information, such as academic research, effective policy initiatives, best practices and technological innovation. Schwarzenegger introduced the Low Carbon Fuel Standard in January, which utilizes enforceable standards, market competition and flexible compliance to reduce emissions at the lowest cost and in the most consumer-friendly ways. By 2020, it will require a reduction in the carbon intensity of California's passenger vehicle fuels of at least 10 percent and is expected to more than triple the size of California's renewable fuels market, displace 20 percent of California's gasoline consumption with lower carbon fuels and put more than 7 million alternative fuel or hybrid vehicles on its roads without any new government spending. Source: Xinhua ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Heard on Last Comic Standing
It doesn't bother me that the world's oceans are filled with oil. Because you fry fish in oil. So they're only marinating. What we need is a lemon wedge spill. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: [BIO-IPR] Scientist wants to patent man-made lifeform
Not quite sure how to ask this, but I recognize that humanity is itself an evolution of the planet and I would go further and say the whole universe. Humanity does what it does. On this List, there is an emphasis upon how humanity is upsetting a supposed balance of nature (as if humanity were somehow separate from nature), but humanity is nature too. How does the List reconcile humanity's nature with the evolution of nature itself? That's probably not the most accurate way of asking what I'm trying to ask, but hopefully the List will get the gist of my question. If I need to reword the question, I'll be happy to try. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 1:12 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Fwd: [BIO-IPR] Scientist wants to patent man-made lifeform Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 05:41:02 +0100 (BST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [BIO-IPR] Scientist wants to patent man-made life form BIO-IPR docserver | http://www.grain.org/bio-ipr TITLE: Scientist wants to patent life form - Man-made bacterium could create ethanol PUBLICATION: Vancouver Sun DATE: 9 June 2007 URL: http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/story.html?id=86a5546d-7451-4b6b-b7 bb-b99d4e8cf021k=30266 SCIENTIST WANTS TO PATENT LIFE FORM Man-made bacterium could create ethanol Kelly Patterson, CanWest News Service Saturday, June 09, 2007 A leading U.S. scientist has applied to patent the world's first man-made life form. Hailed as the biggest, most controversial genetics breakthrough since the cloning of Dolly the sheep, Dr. Craig Venter -- the scientist who led the private-sector race to map the human genome -- says his research team has figured out which genes provide the bare essentials for life. Now he wants the commercial rights to their use. Venter plans to cobble together synthetic versions of these genes to create the world's first artificial living being, a bacterium called mycoplasma laboratorium, which could then be programmed to convert sunlight into eco-friendly fuels such as hydrogen or ethanol. The plan represents a quantum leap in genetics, from reading the DNA of living organisms, to writing it from scratch. This is a biological bombshell, warns Pat Mooney of the Ottawa-based Erosion, Technology and Concentration Group (ETC), a biotechnology watchdog that discovered the patent application this week. Once you've created an artificial bacterium, it becomes a small step to do the same for a plant, an animal, and eventually even a human being, said Jim Thomas, also with ETC. Society hasn't even discussed what the environmental and ethical implications are when humans create novel life-forms the planet has never seen before, Mooney said, let alone the ethics of allowing a company to gain sole control over the set of genes that constitute the basic building blocks of life, he added. Venter has filed patent applications in the U.S. and at the World Intellectual Property Organization, an international body that issues patents for more than 100 countries, including Canada. The ETC Group has appealed to the patent authorities to turn down the applications. Venter's research team would manufacture the essential genes, insert them into a ghost cell and add selected artificial genes. Venter says the main goal would be to produce hydrogen and ethanol which could save an estimated $20 billion per year on fuel costs over the next 50 years (and) decrease greenhouse emissions by 1.7 billion tonnes per year, the firm says on its website. But Mooney said a programmable life form could just as easily be used to make a bio-weapon. Mooney said Venter's organism is almost certain to get released into the environment with untold consequences. GOING FURTHER (compiled by GRAIN) Roger Highfield, Designer bug holds key to endless fuel, The Age, Australia, 10 June 2007. http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/designer-bug-holds-key-to-endless -fuel/2007/06/09/1181089398547.html Ian Sample, Cash bonanza in prospect for genome pioneer, Guardian News Service, 8 June 2007. http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/holnus/008200706080322.htm Zonk, Venter Institute claims patent on synthetic life, SlashDot, discussion started 7 June 2007. http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/06/07/1925250 ETC Group, Patenting Pandora's bug: goodbye, Dolly...hello, Synthia! J. Craig Venter Institute seeks monopoly patents on the world?s first-ever human-made life form, News release, Ottawa, 7 June 2007. http://www.etcgroup.org/en/materials/publications.html?pub_id=631 ABOUT BIO-IPR -- BIO-IPR is an irregular listserver produced by GRAIN. Its purpose is to circulate news and information about recent developments in
Re: [Biofuel] Bush family are Nazis
Thanks for sharing this video, Kirk. However, I would have really appreciated the author being more specific than It is critical that every citizen of this country rise up and do something... as to what that something should be. All around us, we continue to be fed the bad news...without solutions. When the citizenry did rise up in November, 2006, and vote out most Republicans, including some that were against Bush from the beginning, what do the citizenry get in return? Spineless Democrats who cave in and go along with Bush's recent war funding request that included a benchmark to withhold funding for Iraqi infrastructure if the Iraqi's did not private most of their oil. Rise up and do something... Bland enough to stay alive another day I guess. Whatever. Mike DuPree PS Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding is that Roosevelt removed a bankrupted USA from the gold standard in 1933, essentially subjecting the US to the Federal Reserve and the very people who the video author says tried to assassinate Roosevelt. This doesn't make sense. Any documented ideas or educated guesses from anyone? - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren To: biofuel Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 12:52 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Bush family are Nazis http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8795795223394289910 the bit about the general that exposed an attempted coup in the US in 1934 makes sense now -- Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Bush family are Nazis
Yes, I know that. My question has to do with what happened in 1933 (with a Federal Reserve already in place) and how it relates to the assassination attempt in 1934. - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Bush family are Nazis Federal Reserve was signed into law by President Wilson just before Christmas 1913. MK DuPree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for sharing this video, Kirk. However, I would have really appreciated the author being more specific than It is critical that every citizen of this country rise up and do something... as to what that something should be. All around us, we continue to be fed the bad news...without solutions. When the citizenry did rise up in November, 2006, and vote out most Republicans, including some that were against Bush from the beginning, what do the citizenry get in return? Spineless Democrats who cave in and go along with Bush's recent war funding request that included a benchmark to withhold funding for Iraqi infrastructure if the Iraqi's did not private most of their oil. Rise up and do something... Bland enough to stay alive another day I guess. Whatever. Mike DuPree PS Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding is that Roosevelt removed a bankrupted USA from the gold standard in 1933, essentially subjecting the US to the Federal Reserve and the very people who the video author says tried to assassinate Roosevelt. This doesn't make sense. Any documented ideas or educated guesses from anyone? - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren To: biofuel Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 12:52 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Bush family are Nazis http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8795795223394289910 the bit about the general that exposed an attempted coup in the US in 1934 makes sense now -- Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Support Your Local Grower (ie Food...or otherwise?:))
Not meant to scare anyone, but to emphasize support of local, organic growers. To quote from the article, A more decentralized food system that supports local production and consumption would greatly limit the impact of broad-scale contamination. Hope this helps you meet your local grower! Mike http://www.minutemanmedia.org/HARKNESS%20053007.htm WORD COUNT 652 MAY 30, 2007 FIXING OUR BROKEN FOOD SYSTEM - by Jim Harkness The recent discovery of an industrial chemical in animal feed and pet food imported from China has added to the mounting criticism of U.S. food safety agencies. But this case represents much more than simply governmental incompetence. It exposes the inherent weaknesses of an industrial global food system designed to benefit multinational agribusiness companies at the expense of public health. Last year, the United States imported about $10 billion more in food, feed and beverages than it exported. Imports came from 175 different countries and represented a 60 percent jump over the last decade. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) inspectors were simply overwhelmed. They were only able to examine physically 1.3 percent of food imports last year, about three-quarters of the already minute portion examined in 2003. Our food system's increasing dependence on imports is no accident. Import dependency is a defining characteristic of an industrial food model driven by U.S. farm and trade policies over the last half century on behalf of agribusiness. U.S. farm policy has encouraged the mass production of only a few cheap crops largely used as food ingredients, animal feed and exports. U.S. trade policy has aggressively pushed for the removal of trade barriers paving the way for the global food trade. Missing from this industrial model is a national priority to produce healthy food to feed Americans. For example, most rural Midwest supermarkets, surrounded by farms, import nearly all their food from elsewhere in the country and around the world. Taken to an extreme, some chicken grown in the United States actually is sent to China to be processed and then re-exported back the United States! We have built a system of production and trade that treats food the same as computer parts. Cracks in this system manifest themselves in different ways, including the loss of family farms in the United States and worldwide, declining soil and water quality, and a rise in food-related health problems including obesity. But food safety dangers get most of the headlines, because these can be quickly fatal. The tainted animal feed case is a stark example of these vulnerabilities. Feed contamination in China found its way to the United States food supply through hogs in at least six states and at least 2.5 million chickens. Within the United States, food contamination incidents on one farm or processing plant have hit large parts of the country. E. coli-tainted spinach from a California farm affected people coast to coast, killing three and sickening nearly 200. Salmonella-contaminated peanut butter from a Georgia ConAgra plant sickened at least 329 people in 41 states. These breakdowns were accidental, but what about intentional contamination of food? As Tommy Thompson, former director of the Department of Health and Human Services, said in 2004, I cannot understand why the terrorists have not attacked our food supply because it is so easy to do. In the near term, we must boost the number of food safety inspectors, employ cutting-edge inspection technology, and strengthen oversight to rely less on industry self-regulation. But systemic changes are just as badly needed. A more decentralized food system that supports local production and consumption would greatly limit the impact of broad-scale contamination. Quite simply, we should set policy priorities to produce more of our own food, both nationally and regionally. Consumers already endorse this approach. Locally grown products can be found on more and more store shelves. The number of farmers' markets around the country has skyrocketed. And many mainstream supermarkets are taking steps on their own to give consumers more information about where their food comes from. Congress is writing a new Farm Bill. It's an opportunity to accelerate the transition toward a more locally based food system by funding greater crop diversification, incentives for local purchasing in schools and other government institutions, and full implementation of country of origin labeling in 2008. It's time to put the public's interest ahead of agribusiness in setting our nation's food policy. -- Jim Harkness is the president of the Institute for
Re: [Biofuel] Support Your Local Grower (ie Food...or otherwise?:))
Thanks Doug...a million times. If this is anything like the trailer, hope it gets spread around the world. I'll do my part and send it on to others. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: doug swanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Support Your Local Grower (ie Food...or otherwise?:)) Trailer for the movie coming out this summer The Real Dirt on Farmer John http://youtube.com/watch?v=sqP1SC5Tr7U I want to see it! doug swanson frantz DESPREZ wrote: Keith Addison a e'crit : No downside. We have a wwebpage on CSAs: http://journeytoforever.org/farm_csa.html Community-supported farms known as AMAP in France http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community-supported_agriculture http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_pour_le_maintien_d'une_agriculture_paysanne Needs some updating - actually it didn't start in Japan, it started in Switzerland. (And some of the links are broken.) Wikipedia says it started mid 60's in Japan, called Teikei frantz ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- Contentment comes not from having more, but from wanting less. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * All generalizations are false. Including this one. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This email is constructed entirely with OpenSource Software. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Parent of Spelling Bee Finalist Quote
To paraphrase one of the parents of one of the finalists in the National Spelling Bee... There's a part of parenting that you guide and direct, and then there's another part that you sit back and enjoy the show. God bless all you parents Mike___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Remember
I'm sending this out to a whole bunch of folks, so please forgive me if I don't speak to you more personally. Maybe you think I'm a fool for sending this along. Maybe it will be just what you need. However you receive it, please know I send it because I care about you and wish for you only the best. Your experience will be enhanced with your audio on. Mike http://www.rememberingwholeness.com:80/___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] oil factor
Thursday, May 24, 2007, additional funding of war in Iraq (see editorial: http://www.truthout.org:80/docs_2006/052607Z.shtml ) adds credence to related portion of the 9/2006 video Kirk presents below. - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren To: biofuel Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 11:06 AM Subject: [Biofuel] oil factor http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1130731388742388243q=oil+factor worth watching -- Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Where's Osama?
I received this item from Dow Jones News Service this morning. MD DJ MARKET TALK: Where's Osama? Thu May 24 12:48:52 2007 EDT 1648 GMT [Dow Jones] So why is Osama bin Laden still at large five-and-a-half years after 9/11? It's pretty simple: Because we haven't got him yet, Jim. That's why, President Bush told a reporter Thursday. The good news is that We brought a lot of his buddies to justice. And even though Osama is still alive and kicking in a cave somewhere, He's not leading many parades. (HJP) Contact us in New York. Robert Flint, 201-938-4408; [EMAIL PROTECTED]___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Governments using filters to censor Internet, survey finds
Anyone know how JTF List members can know if JTF is ever filtered? Would each member stop receiving posts to the List? Would we each receive only certain posts? Thanks in advance for any ideas, comment. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren To: biofuel Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 10:47 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Governments using filters to censor Internet, survey finds . Governments using filters to censor Internet, survey finds By Doreen Carvajal Published: May 18, 2007 http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/05/17/business/censor.php PARIS: With the aid of sophisticated software, government censorship of the Internet is spreading into a global phenomenon, with tech-savvy governments filtering forbidden themes from politics and human rights to sexuality and religion, according to a new academic survey of 40 countries. In the past five years, the practice has grown beyond a handful of countries, including Iran, China and Saudi Arabia, to 26 nations that block a wide range of topics as they adopt filtering techniques, according to an OpenNet Initiative report to be issued Friday in Oxford, England. It's an alarming increase, said Ron Deibert, associate professor of political science at the University of Toronto, one of four universities participating in the yearlong study along with Harvard, Oxford and Cambridge. Once the tools are in place, authorities realize that the Internet can be controlled. There used to be a myth that the Internet was immune to regulation. Now governments are realizing it's actually the opposite. Instead of blocking static Web sites, governments are focusing on entire Internet-based applications like YouTube, Skype and Google Maps, according to the report. They also are adopting furtive, just-in-time filtering to knock out the Web sites of political opposition groups during critical election periods, Deibert said. About 100 researchers studied thousands of Web sites and discovered 200,000 examples of Internet filtering. Most of the countries evaluated in the study filtered out a wide set of themes, suggesting that once nations adopt blocking tools, they expand their range. Countries like China, Iran, Syria, Tunisia, Vietnam, Uzbekistan, Oman and Pakistan followed a broad approach, accord to the report. Tunisia, which was host to a United Nations summit on the information society in 2005, focused on four themes: human rights, political opposition to the government, pornography and anonymizer sites that offer tools to circumvent controls online. But there are territorial differences. Vietnam and Uzbekistan tend to focus mostly on local content while largely ignoring international Web sites. Middle Eastern countries pay more attention to international news, with Iran blocking the BBC's site. Saudi Arabia focuses on censoring social content like pornography and gambling, though it also restricts political sites critical of the Saudi monarchy or non-Sunni Islam sites. This balance mirrors the use of commercial software, generally developed in the West, to identify and block Internet content, according to the study. One of the more popular software tools is SmartFilter, a product of Secure Computing in San Jose, California, which is used by Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Oman, Sudan and Tunisia. In Tunisia's case, researchers found that when they tried forbidden sites, a page that looked like an Internet Explorer browser default page was displayed to disguise that censorship was taking place. The report also found that some countries pursued only specific approaches or exerted little control over the online universe. South Korea filters only North Korean sites, many of them originating in Japan. Jordan, Morocco and Singapore were also sparing, filtering just a handful of sites. Researchers discovered no evidence of filtering in more than a dozen of the surveyed countries, among them Russia, Venezuela, Egypt, Hong Kong, Israel and Iraq. The United States and much of Europe were not studied in the survey because in those countries, filtering is focused primarily on copyright infringement issues and is generally pursued in the private sector. In contrast, according to the report, Internet censors in the 40 countries surveyed did not filter in connection with intellectual property rights. The research was funded by the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation in Chicago. In Iraq, researchers limited their testing to the civilian networks and did not include the network run by the U.S. military. Earlier this week, officials with the U.S. Department of Defense announced plans to block a dozen Web sites. The military grid includes more than five
Re: [Biofuel] EMF-Omega-News 5. May 2007 (April articles)
and senses and associations, some of which quite contradict
others. Especially freedom has such an abundance of honourable
associations that it would be unwise to reject it for the sake of
a recent pernicious sense. Here I speak purely of the usefulness of
these words as means of communication: I think that, if you were to
ask people to describe the sense that comes out of many of your
posts, many would choose the word freedom.
I moreover fear that, if freedom is susceptible to an evil
interpretation, how much moreso might an idea be that is
specifically placed counter to freedom?
Certainly we're seeing an unprecendented attack on the common
tongue: I think it is part of what Keith spoke about last week. If
it isn't post-modernism as such it at least coincides with
post-modernism. It used to be that we bought stuff and made our own
meaning to attach to it. These days we buy the meaning and receive
the concomitant stuff as a sort of after-sales service.
I cannot accept the notion that physical survival has a necessary
precedence over spiritual or social or even intellectual
considerations. Man, after all, does not live on bread alone. I live
in a country where the ability of people to place other things (for
which they used the word freedom more often than not) above their
own survival was almost daily demonstrated not very long ago. There
is a point where my ability to breathe ceases to be important; I
would certainly risk that ability in an effort to stop someone going
about trying to strangle people... !
There is another sense, though. There is a sort of malaise in the
world, with people feeling that there is little point in maintaining
the environment on which they depend, and that the only honest
response to the world as they find it is like Samson to bring the
palace down on our heads. People feel like that from time to time,
but what if an entire generation feels like that? I'd suggest that
we were in serious trouble, if that were the case. E F Schumacher
called for methods of production in keeping with man's need for
creativity as a prerequisite for sustainable industry. It's in the
nature of the sort of being we're dealing with when we're dealing
with human beings. It's a practical thing.
If, by individuality, you mean the pervasive uniqueness of all
natural things, what Gerard Manley Hopkins called All things
counter, original, spare, strange; then I'm with you all the way.
But it is something that I associate with a valid and time-honoured
sense of the word freedom. Conversely, I think that you will find
individuality a more problematically loaded term: specifically,
you'll lose all left-wing thinkers outside the USA at the outset to
an almost automatic chain reaction that goes
individuality individualism classic liberalism capitalism
colonialism imperialism. You wouldn't get a word in edgeways among
all the subsequent accusations of rabid Fascist conservatism, which
would be a pity because, despite this nasty habit of German-idealist
thinking, left-wing thinkers outside the USA often have valuable
contributions to make: and I suspect that you might have a valuable
contribution to make to their ideals.
Perhaps it's all a lot simpler. Perhaps we should merely ask,
independence of what? Perhaps it is only in the unstated predicate
that we differ.
I think this stuff is important, but it is somewhat off-topic. It's
Keith's call. In any event, Mike, you're most welcome to e-mail me
off-list any time.
Best regards
-Dawie
- Original Message
From: MK DuPree [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Sunday, 13 May, 2007 5:05:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] EMF-Omega-News 5. May 2007 (April articles)
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Hi Dawie...sorry for so long responding, but there are has been too
much going on in my life to do so sooner with words I'm hoping
will explain at least in part my position. Unfortunately, I
believe I have not been able to even scratch the surface
of expounding upon the issues with which you have taken issue and
also professed. But I'm trying, and also, if in trying I have
completely misread your meaning, please forgive me.
So, except for the gist of your last paragraph, I couldn't
disagree with you more. I believe you are deluded. Freedom and
independence are illusions...delusions...ideas foisted upon us by
a minority who want us to believe the supposed reality of these
words in order to divide us and ultimately conquer us, just as they
have and do--and will. Freedom and independence are NOT merely
what all sane, healthy people strive for. Freedom and independence
are NOT what causes children to be impatient to grow up, and so
they should be. The problem is NOT that we've forgotten what
freedom and independence mean. The utterly fundamental problem is
that we've forgotten, in fact have never been taught (most of
us), what we mean.
Let me put my hands around your neck, Dawie
[Biofuel] Fw: The Writer's Almanac for Sunday, May 13, 2007
Great info on Mother's Day...Thanks Mom for your love. Me - Original Message - From: The Writer's Almanac To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 1:33 AM Subject: The Writer's Almanac for Sunday, May 13, 2007 To view a web version of this message, click here SUNDAY, 13 MAY, 2007 VISIT OUR SPONSORS HOW TO LISTEN On the radio Podcast Web archive CONTRIBUTE TODAY Listen (RealAudio) | How to listen Poem: Graduation by Louis Simpson, from The Owner of the House: New Collected Poems 1940-2001. © BOA Editions, Ltd., 2003. Reprinted with permission. (buy now) Graduation My ex-wife comes over and invites me to sit with them. I say okay. There are a lot of speeches, all saying much the same, about the new generation, the future belongs to them. They're lining up for it, walking onto the stage. There she is, our Meredith. The sound of two hands clapping is mine. If there's one thing I know it's when something is over and done with, and it's time to go. Literary and Historical Notes: Today is Mother's Day, the day on which we celebrate the women who brought us into the world. The holiday was the idea of a woman named Anna Jarvis, a schoolteacher who had lived with her mother for most of her life. After her mother died, she got the idea to set aside one day a year for the celebration of mothers. She chose the second Sunday in May because that was when her own mother had died. The first Mother's Day celebration was held at Anna Jarvis's church on May 10, 1908, and at the end of the service Anna Jarvis gave each mother a carnation, because carnations had been her mother's favorite flowers. The idea for the holiday spread across the country, and then the U.S. Congress made it official in 1914. Many writers have depended upon their mothers for inspiration, as well as survival. Flannery O'Connor moved in with her mother after she was diagnosed with lupus, and she wrote many of her most famous short stories sitting on her mother's front porch. Gustave Flaubert moved in with his mother after traveling around the Middle East with his wealthy friends. They had suggested that he try to write something about middle class society, and it was his mother's provincial life in the suburbs that helped provide the background for his novel Madame Bovary. Hunter S. Thompson moved in with his mother after he'd been fired from one job for kicking the candy machine and after he'd quit another job because he didn't want to write about bowling. Living with his mother gave him the freedom to be a freelancer, and it was a freelance article about the Hell's Angels motorcycle gang that made his career. When the novelist William Maxwell was 10 years old, his mother caught influenza during the epidemic in 1918 and she died. Maxwell wrote, It happened too suddenly, with no warning, and we none of us could believe it or bear it ... the beautiful, imaginative, protected world of my childhood swept away. He later said that every book he wrote was an attempt to capture that experience. He was once asked in an interview what he would say to his mother if he could talk to her. He replied, I would say, 'Here are these beautiful books that I made for you.' The playwright George Bernard Shaw followed his mother to London when he was 20, hoping to make something of himself. His aunt got him a job at the Edison Telephone Company, but he eventually quit the job to write. His mother supported him with her job as a music teacher. It took 10 years before he began to make a living as a critic and then began to produce the plays that made his name as a writer. He lived with his mother all that time, and she never complained about supporting him. He later said, My mother worked for my living instead of preaching that it was my duty to work for hers; therefore take off your hat to her and blush. Mark Twain said, My mother had a great deal of trouble with me, but I think she enjoyed it. It's the birthday of novelist and travel writer Bruce Chatwin, (books by this author) born in Sheffield, Yorkshire, England (1940). He made his name with the book In Patagonia (1977). It's the birthday of novelist Daphne du Maurier, (books by this author) born in London (1907). She spent most of her adult life in the coastal town of Cornwall, known for its stormy,
Re: [Biofuel] EMF-Omega-News 5. May 2007 (April articles)
of its existence is perhaps the measure of a system of society. The concentration of too much power in too few hands causes the current system to be extremely intolerant of exceptional behaviours, and therefore it requires all kinds of intrusive bureaucratic tyranny to keep from 'disappearing up its own arse', if you'll excuse the expression. What we need is not a population that is so abjectly servile as to welcome the bureaucratic tyranny (because if you start thinking that way, universal genocide is a more efficient option) but an end to the concentrations of power that maintain a pretext for the tyranny. -Dawie - Original Message From: MK DuPree [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, 6 May, 2007 7:58:53 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] EMF-Omega-News 5. May 2007 (April articles) Hi Kirk..thanks for sharing. More and more it appears to me the bottom line is we are discovering how freedom and independence are grand illusions which our subscribing to is now showing the truth of. We are not free, never will be, and there is no independence. We are all bound to each other and the planet in a grand scheme of interdependence, where what happens to a part affects the whole. So only as we learn to work together, to help grow our common ground and strengthen the ties that bind, not only do we have a chance of taking ourselves to the next generation and the ones beyond that but of learning true happiness and fulfillment in the present. Good night, and good luck. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren To: biofuel Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 11:54 AM Subject: [Biofuel] EMF-Omega-News 5. May 2007 (April articles) Redaktion Buergerwelle e.V. (BI Omega-CI Omega) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Sir, Madam, Ladies and gentlemen, dear friends, for your information. Best regards, Klaus Rudolph Citizens' Initiative Omega Member of the Buergerwelle Germany (incorporated society) Protectorate Union of the Citizens and Initiatives for the Protection against Electrosmog -- Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Gas Station Owner Told to Raise Prices
Like evey freakin law, special cases are not accounted for. Consequently, laws are made to be broken. Bhandari needs to show the copy of his letter from the Wisconsin Dept of Ag to customers, make a big stink out of this. Get folks to beat their state reps over the head. Could be a great marketing tool for Bhandari, help him get free publicity, maybe even spread the idea to other stations. This guy has been presented a gift horse. Wonder if he's smart enough to cash in. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren To: biofuel Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 11:45 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Fwd: Gas Station Owner Told to Raise Prices free market? Kirk Gas Station Owner Told to Raise Prices May 8 11:26 PM US/Eastern View larger image MERRILL, Wis. (AP) - A service station that offered discounted gas to senior citizens and people supporting youth sports has been ordered by the state to raise its prices. Center City BP owner Raj Bhandari has been offering senior citizens a 2 cent per gallon price break and discount cards that let sports boosters pay 3 cents less per gallon. But the state Department of Agriculture, Trade and Consumer Protection says those deals are too good: They violate Wisconsin's Unfair Sales Act, which requires stations to sell gas for about 9.2 percent more than the wholesale price. Bhandari said he received a letter from the state auditor in late April saying the state would sue him if he did not raise his prices. The state could penalize him for each discounted gallon he sold, with the fine determined by a judge. Bhandari, who bought the station in May 2006, said he worries customers will think he stopped the discounts because he wants to make more money. About 10 percent of his customers had used the discount cards. Dale Van Camp of Merrill said he bought a $50 card to support the local youth hockey program. It would have saved him about $100 per year on gas, he said. ___ Information from: Wausau Daily Herald, http://www.wausaudailyherald.com -- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Venezuela: Chavez Dumps Monsanto
Bravo Hugo and Venezuela...BRAVO MIKE DUPREE - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 11:18 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Venezuela: Chavez Dumps Monsanto http://www.globalpolicy.org/socecon/tncs/2004/0505venezuela.htm Venezuela: Chavez Dumps Monsanto By Jason Tockman Green Left Weekly May 5, 2004 Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez Frias has announced that the cultivation of genetically modified crops will be prohibited on Venezuelan soil, possibly establishing the most sweeping restrictions on transgenic crops in the western hemisphere. Though full details of the administration's policy on genetically modified organisms (GMOs) are still forthcoming, the statement by President Hugo Chavez will lead most immediately to the cancellation of a contract that Venezuela had negotiated with the US-based Monsanto Corporation. Before a recent international gathering of supporters in Caracas, Chavez admonished genetically engineered crops as contrary to interests and needs of the nation's farmers and farmworkers. He then zeroed in on Monsanto's plans to plant up to 500,000 acres of transgenic soybeans in Venezuela. I ordered an end to the project, said Chavez, upon learning that transgenic crops were involved. This project is terminated. Chavez emphasised the importance of food sovereignty and security - required by the Venezuelan Constitution - as the basis of his decision. Instead of allowing Monsanto to grow its transgenic crops, these fields will be used to plant yuca, an indigenous crop, Chavez explained. He also announced the creation of a large seed bank facility to maintain indigenous seeds for peasants' movements around the world. The international peasants' organisation Via Campesina, representing more than 60 million farmers and farmworkers, had brought the issue to the attention of the Chavez administration when it learned of the contract with Monsanto. According to Rafael Alegria, secretary for international operations of Via Campesina, both Monsanto and Cargill are seeking authorisation to produce transgenic soy products in Venezuela. The agreement was against the principles of food sovereignty that guide the agricultural policy of Venezuela, said Alegria when informed of the president's decision. This is a very important thing for the peasants and indigenous people of Latin America and the world. Alegria has good reason to be concerned. With a long history of social and environmental problems, Monsanto won early international fame with its production of the chemical Agent Orange - the Vietnam War defoliant linked to miscarriages, tremors, and memory loss that more than 1 million people were exposed to. More recently, the company has been criticised for side-effects that its transgenic crops and bovine growth hormone (rBGH) are believed to have on human health and the environment. Closer to home in Venezuela, Monsanto manufactures the pesticide glyphosate, which is used by the neighbouring Colombian government as part of its Plan Colombia offensive against coca production and rebel groups. The Colombian government aerially sprays hundreds of thousands of acres, destroying legitimate farms and natural areas like the Putomayo rainforest, and posing a direct threat to human health, including that of indigenous communities. If we want to achieve food sovereignty, we cannot rely on transnationals like Monsanto, said Maximilien Arvelaiz, an adviser to Chavez. We need to strengthen local production, respecting our heritage and diversity. Alegria hopes that Venezuela's move will serve as encouragement to other nations contemplating how to address the issue of GMOs. The people of the United States, of Latin America, and of the world need to follow the example of a Venezuela free of transgenics, he said. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] EMF-Omega-News 5. May 2007 (April articles)
Hi Kirk..thanks for sharing. More and more it appears to me the bottom line is we are discovering how freedom and independence are grand illusions which our subscribing to is now showing the truth of. We are not free, never will be, and there is no independence. We are all bound to each other and the planet in a grand scheme of interdependence, where what happens to a part effects the whole. So only as we learn to work together, to help grow our common ground and strengthen the ties that bind, not only do we have a chance of taking ourselves to the next generation and the ones beyond that but of learning true happiness and fulfillment in the present. Good night, and good luck. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren To: biofuel Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 11:54 AM Subject: [Biofuel] EMF-Omega-News 5. May 2007 (April articles) Redaktion Buergerwelle e.V. (BI Omega-CI Omega) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Sir, Madam, Ladies and gentlemen, dear friends, for your information. Best regards, Klaus Rudolph Citizens' Initiative Omega Member of the Buergerwelle Germany (incorporated society) Protectorate Union of the Citizens and Initiatives for the Protection against Electrosmog Wi-fi laptops 'pose health risk to children' http://omega.twoday.net/stories/3670866/ Scientists demand inquiry over Wi-Fi http://omega.twoday.net/stories/3669421/ Cancer Cluster in Dalton, Georgia http://omega.twoday.net/stories/3671112/ La Quinta Middle School's cancer scare http://omega.twoday.net/stories/3673506/ EHS FROM PASSIVE AND TARGETED EXPOSURES http://omega.twoday.net/stories/3676516/ 'Phone mast link to lost sparrows' http://omega.twoday.net/stories/3671073/ Orientation and Navigation of Bees may be disturbed by man-made electric, magnetic and electromagnetic fields http://omega.twoday.net/stories/3672147/ Birds bees hit by phone waves http://omega.twoday.net/stories/3669458/ 2,000 HOMING PIGEONS LOSE THEIR BEARINGS, DISAPPEAR http://omega.twoday.net/stories/3671987/ Restrict mobile masts - Laws http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/3673641/ Electromagnetic smog fears grow http://omega.twoday.net/stories/3691832/ 'Epidemic' of sleep deprivation spreads among busy Britons http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/3675267/ EMF/EMR night exposures (cell phone under pillow/Alzheimers) http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/3691619/ No one knows the real risks of Wi-Fi? http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/3691877/ BECTA Wi-fi Report Suppressed http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/3676749/ Families' fears over city Wi-Fi http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/3677063/ Wi-Fi on Radio 4 and Worldwide http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/3679736/ Eaton Park phone mast battle latest http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/3680156/ Concerns over Southwick development http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/3680178/ Fears over mast plan http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/3680189/ COUNCIL GAFFE SEES MOBILE MAST ERECTED http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/3680375/ Phone mast turned down http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/3680415/ Mast campaigners set for pay-out http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/3681615/ Wireless Oakland causing ill health at rollout http://omega.twoday.net/stories/3642285/ I ask that all schools use wires not wireless http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/3683651/ Honeybee Die-Off Threatens Food Supply http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/3686812/ Residents' anger as mast plan approved http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/3684905/ Mobile firm fights for mast http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/3684922/ Banham fury at Breckland planners http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/3684950/ Powerwatch on The SAGE Report http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/3686740/ How much is too much? Scientists debate radiation effects: prudent avoidance needed now http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/3687888/ CHERNOBYL: 21 YEARS OF LIES FROM THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION http://omega.twoday.net/stories/3691641/ Scientists Restore Lost Memory in Alzheimer's-Like Mice http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/3687899/ Pourquoi la téléphonie nous rend malade - Témoignages et Dossier Mélatonine http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/3684070/ Next-up News n°243 http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/3691041/ Next-up News n°244 http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/3691716/ News from Mast Sanity http://tinyurl.com/aotw3 Omega-News Collection 5. May 2007 http://omega.twoday.net/stories/3692019/ Our links: http://www.buergerwelle.com http://tinyurl.com/93epp http://tinyurl.com/9w2sx http://tinyurl.com/aotw3 http://tinyurl.com/oya9t
Re: [Biofuel] Federally Funded Boffins Want To Scrap The Internet
Hi Keith...thanks so much for your refutations and assurances that include not merely opinion but also, if not always verifiable fact, strong evidence. The people vs institutions, friendly hackers, Cleckley and Vonnegut adjustments all very helpful. At heart, I truly am an eternal optimist, and even though I might see dark days yet to come, I do see light at the end of the tunnel, if for no other reason than I observe the infinity of stars in the sky. What I have to accept is that my personal timeframe and the timeframe of the Universe at times can (must, due to my very short timeframe on the planet) be at odds with each other. I'm wondering if what I heard was an owl. I can be absolutely daff along these lines, but when I heard it (fully awake, not dreaming or under any kind of influence except the quiet and birdsong of the morning), I had the distinct impression of an owl. I was thinking too, since we are on daylight savings time, it was actually around 4:30 in the morning by the sun, that period of time that is darkest before dawn. I've done some Googling for the sound I heard and I believe this is it: http://www.junglewalk.com/popup.asp?type=aAnimalAudioID=13044 (click on the Typical Call, Captive Female 'Alice', Houston, Minnesota), a Great Horned Owl, although the recorded sound offers about seven notes, not the three or four I thought I remembered. Note also in the description under Voice that (m)ost calling occurs from dusk to about midnight and then again just before dawn. Thanks for JTF...and Keith, Keith. Mike - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 3:13 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Federally Funded Boffins Want To Scrap The Internet Hi Mike Hi Keith and List...of course, those who would suppress the world's freedom will still have it for themselves, with which to do what? Quite! But what can you make of a person who needs (?) more than enough? If it's indeed people we're talking about and not the institutions they work for/are enslaved by. Anyway, we've been through this matter of the continuing attempts by Big Central to control the Internet, quite a few times. Not to say it doesn't bear repeated mention, and eternal vigilance, but various ex(?)hacker list members emerged and were most convincing in their arguments that it just wasn't going to work. They said we could regard the hacker community as our friendly neighbourhood sysops who would ably protect us against nasty viruses like the CIA etc and their corporate lookalike control freaks. I'm inclined to believe them. There was a list posted of how long it had taken the hacker community to break various corporate/govt barriers and codes, laughable. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that just when I thought it was darkest, I realize it's only dusk, in the history of humanity. I don't agree with that. I can understand how it looks that way though, especially in the US, permeated as it is with years of carefully cultivated helplessness on the one hand and stuff like the end times nutters' drivel on the other, such as this: The second advent of Christ will include great wars with terrible suffering, the course of civilization is toward self-destruction. Especially if we leave it to the likes of them (as you Americans have done). I think you can get infected by this stuff by sheer osmosis. I'm still thinking about the book Vonnegut refers to in his memoirs, The Mask of Sanity by Dr Hervey Cleckley, this book is about congenitally defective human beings of a sort that is making this whole country and many other parts of the planet go completely haywire nowadays. These were people born without consciences, and suddenly they are taking charge of everything. Maybe having a conscience is actually an outdated evolutionary appendage of some kind that must eventually wither away. Cleckley discusses that concept and dismisses it. Actually, Kurt Vonnegut didn't quite get that right. The people he's talking about who're taking charge of everything are not the people Cleckley talks of in his book. Cleckley's patients are pretty incapable of taking charge of anything much, or not for long enough to make much difference, collateral damage aside, especially not of their own lives, they're unbelievably self-destructive, they lead lives of uncontrolled chaos, without goals or direction. You can download Cleckley's book here: http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/sanity_1.PdF Definitely work reading. When you peel off the mask there's nothing there, nothing inside. No values. The maniacs who're rushing us towards Armageddon are either religious extremists (several brands) or, not psychopaths by Cleckley's definition, more like power freaks and control freaks, with, certainly, no conscience and no sanity either by normal terms, but
Re: [Biofuel] Federally Funded Boffins Want To Scrap The Internet
Hi Keith and List...of course, those who would suppress the world's freedom will still have it for themselves, with which to do what? I guess I shouldn't be surprised that just when I thought it was darkest, I realize it's only dusk, in the history of humanity. I'm still thinking about the book Vonnegut refers to in his memoirs, The Mask of Sanity by Dr Hervey Cleckley, this book is about congenitally defective human beings of a sort that is making this whole country and many other parts of the planet go completely haywire nowadays. These were people born without consciences, and suddenly they are taking charge of everything. Maybe having a conscience is actually an outdated evolutionary appendage of some kind that must eventually wither away. Good night, and good luck, everyone. Mike DuPree PS This morning, about 5:30, I was awake, reading, listening in the background to the orchestra of birds awakening to a new day. Sounded like a bunch of piccolos and flutes with an oboe tossed in here and there, but mostly higher toned sounds, singing nothing and yet everything at the same time, truly glorious. Then, for a moment, right here in suburbia, for a flash of a moment it became absolutely quiet and an owl hooted, the bassoon?, just three or four notes, that was all, and the orchestra continued as before, but different too being somehow magnificently changed. It's been a glorious day ever since. I do pray our conscience is not merely a historical development that has seen its day, but something new, that must emerge and develop and will prevail. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 12:35 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Federally Funded Boffins Want To Scrap The Internet Lots of hotlinks in the Web version. - K -- http://snipurl.com/1hemw April 21, 2007 Federally Funded Boffins Want To Scrap The Internet Seeking further funding from Congress for clean slate projects by Steve Watson Global Research, April 18, 2007 Infowars.net Researchers funded by the federal government want to shut down the internet and start over, citing the fact that at the moment there are loopholes in the system whereby users cannot be tracked and traced all the time. Time magazine has reported that several foundations and universities including Rutgers, Stanford, Princeton, Carnegie Mellon and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology are pursuing individual projects, along with the Defense Department, in order to wipe out the current internet and replace it with a new network which will satisfy big business and government: One challenge in any reconstruction, though, will be balancing the interests of various constituencies. The first time around, researchers were able to toil away in their labs quietly. Industry is playing a bigger role this time, and law enforcement is bound to make its needs for wiretapping known. There's no evidence they are meddling yet, but once any research looks promising, a number of people (will) want to be in the drawing room, said Jonathan Zittrain, a law professor affiliated with Oxford and Harvard universities. They'll be wearing coats and ties and spilling out of the venue. The projects echo moves we have previously reported on to clamp down on internet neutrality and even to designate a new form of the internet known as Internet 2. This would be a faster, more streamlined elite equivalent of the internet available to users who were willing to pay more for a much improved service. providers may only allow streaming audio and video on your websites if you were eligible for Internet 2. Of course, Internet 2 would be greatly regulated and only appropriate content would be accepted by an FCC or government bureau. Everything else would be relegated to the slow lane internet, the junkyard as it were. Our techie rulers are all too keen to make us believe that the internet as we know it is already dead. Google is just one of the major companies preparing for internet 2 by setting up hundreds of server farms through which eventually all our personal data - emails, documents, photographs, music, movies - will pass and reside. However, experts state that the clean slate projects currently being undertaken go even further beyond projects like Internet2 and National LambdaRail, both of which focus primarily on next-generation needs for speed. In tandem with broad data retention legislation currently being introduced worldwide, such clean slate projects may represent a considerable threat to the freedom of the internet as we know it. EU directives and US proposals for data retention may mean that any normal website or blog would have to fall into line with such new rules and suddenly total web regulation would become a reality. In recent months, a chorus
[Biofuel] Fw: Jury Duty Scam
Jury Duty ScamScopes link included identifies this one as real. Beware. Mike - Original Message - From: Donna Bergmann To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 9:23 AM Subject: Jury Duty Scam Watch out for this one. D. HR JURY DUTY SCAM: This has been verified by the FBI (Their link is also included below). Please pass this on to everyone in your email address book. It is spreading fast so be prepared should you get this call. Most of us take those summons for jury duty seriously, but enough people skip out on their civic duty, that a new and ominous kind of scam has surfaced. The caller claims to be a jury coordinator. If you protest that you never received a summons for jury duty, the scammer asks you for your Social Security number and date of birth so he or she can verify the information and cancel the arrest warrant. Give out any of this information and bingo, your identity just got stolen. The scam has been reported so far in 11 states, including Oklahoma. This (scam) is particularly insidious because they use intimidation over the phone to try to bully people into giving information by pretending they're with the court system. The FBI and the federal court system have issued nationwide alerts on their web sites, warning consumers about the fraud. Check it out here: http://www.snopes.com/crime/fraud/juryduty.asp http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel05/092805.htm hr size=1 width=100% align=center -- Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Homage to a good man
Hi Keith and List...Had to light a candle and turn over my whiskey glass when I heard about V's passing. Very interesting the PPs, psychopathic personalities; smart, personable people born without consciences...who are running our country! I often wonder how long will it take before certain behaviors like these and the desire to possess more and more are recognized as sickness and able to be isolated...or shot...to be honest, I really don't know which. Aint easy bein human...aint easy... Very interesting too his remarks about kids in high school who run for class president are disturbed...I did it twice in high school, my sophomore and senior years...and won. Motivated by a vision several years earlier at a huge high school football game. I was born with big ears sticking out of the sides of my head like Dumbo and monkey ears or fool. Could never accept how I looked might be my actual character, so worked hard to make friends, be nice guy, good in sports, good in everything. Then one Friday evening at this huge football game in a district stadium filled to standing only, as the fullback hero of our team (my neighbor by the way just two doors down from where I lived) made leaping dive across goal line amid cameras flashing and people screaming to win the game for our team, I saw myself getting football scholarship to Notre Dame (I was raised in Catholic home...my mother only really, my dad a reluctant convert, WWII fighter pilot, golf pro of local renown), going to law school and becoming president of U.S., not because of any good I could do but because my name would be known by so many people. By the time I got to high school, I had a good feel for politics at the time, for the feel of the times and giving voice to it...sophomore year (I was first string half back on sophomore football team) I gave great speech in a coat and tie in our gymnasium filled full of us. Heard one teacher comment to another afterwards in the hallway that it sounded like we had an orator among us. Shawnee Mission North...over 2500 population. So there was a huge sophomore class. Then senior year, 1969/70, Vietnam at peak, conscription, etc...had my best friend, brother and my brother's best friend as a backup band for me on the stage in our theater. Started with CCR's (Credence Clearwater for the uninitiated) Fortunate Son (lyrics here: http://www.lyricsfreak.com/c/creedence+clearwater+revival/fortunate+son_20034362.html) before I came out, then I had an announcer with great radio voice (junior year class president by the way), announce me and I walked on stage to the tune of Buck Owens' Act of Naturally made popular by The Beatles (lyrics here: http://www.lyricsdepot.com/the-beatles/act-naturally.html) I was dressed in white t-shirt, vest and jeans, holding what appeared to be notes in my hand. As I came to the podium, the band silenced and I started a speech which looked like I was reading from notes, which were really blank pieces of paper, then I stopped, flung the notes aside and the band started a drum and bass roll. My announcer had run up into a control booth that controlled the lights, turned down the stage lights and focused a spotlight strictly on me, while I pleaded with the audience that we needed to crawl before we walk, walk before we run, then start running like hell when the band broke into Shapes of Things (performed by The Yardbirds, lyrics here: http://www.teenagewildlife.com/Albums/P/SOT.html) and the whole auditorium burst into wild applause, whistling, hoots and hollers and the administration tried to close the curtains on me and the band. My announcer said he could see kids in the audience holding tightly onto either sides of their seats while the drum and bass roll and my speech were cranking up everyone into wild crescendo. Yeah, I was disturbed!!! And so was/is our whole fucking world!!! After I won I resigned my position and quit the varsity football team. Admittedly, I've been floundering ever since. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 1:03 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Homage to a good man http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/04/12/470/ Kurt Vonnegut, Novelist Who Caught the Imagination of His Age, Is Dead at 84 -- http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13659.htm Custodians of chaos In this extract from his forthcoming memoirs, Kurt Vonnegut is horrified by the hypocrisy in contemporary US politics By Kurt Vonnegut 06/17/06 Information Clearing House -- -- Do unto others what you would have them do unto you. A lot of people think Jesus said that, because it is so much the sort of thing Jesus liked to say. But it was actually said by Confucius, a Chinese philosopher, five hundred years before there was that greatest and most humane of human beings, named Jesus Christ. The Chinese also
Re: [Biofuel] plant growth stimuator
Hi Kirk and List...hydrogen peroxide...help your garden and indoor plants grow...good for mouthwash too...enjoy! Other thoughts...rainwater reclamation...a real reason for doing so, even though might not be as H2O2 intensive as when the dinosaurs walked the planet (or even earlier...uh...like within the last couple of hundred years). Check out this Kansas City site (http://rainkc.com/home/index.asp) for more info on rainwater reclamation, rainwater gardens, and info by a KU professor on how we're losing habitat for pollinators that transfer pollen between flowers, like bees. 'This is serious,' said Orley Chip Taylor, professor of ecology and evolutionary biology at the University of Kansas. 'We're losing 6,000 acres of habitat a day to development, 365 days a year. One out of every three bites you eat is traceable to pollinators' activity. But if you start losing pollinators, you start losing plants.' Whoa! One out of three bites??? Check out this website/webpage for how/why we're losing the bee population of the planet: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070223-bees.html Aint no doubt about it...our lives are interconnected with the planet and each other...break the interconnection and we lose our lives (not that we won't lose them anyway, but that's not the point...recycling is one thing...suicide is another). Very simple. Well...back to the garden!! And turning that stupid lawn into a pollinator sanctuary!!! Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren To: biofuel Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 1:38 AM Subject: [Biofuel] plant growth stimuator Technical Grade H202 ( Hydrogen Peroxide ) If any substance is interesting, it's hydrogen peroxide. Hydrogen peroxide should really be called hydrogen dioxide. Its chemical formula is H202 . It contains one more atom of oxygen that does water (H20 ) By now everyone's aware of the ozone layer that surrounds the earth. Ozone consists of three atoms of oxygen . This protective layer of ozone is created when ultraviolet light from the sun splits an atmospheric oxygen molecule into two single, unstable oxygen atoms. These single molecules combine with others to form ozone . Ozone isn't very stable. In fact, it will quickly give up that extra atom of oxygen to falling rainwater to form hydrogen peroxide (H202 ). It is this hydrogen peroxide in rainwater that makes it so much more effective than tap water when given to plants. With the increased levels of atmospheric pollution, however, greater amounts of H202 react with air-borne toxins and never reach the ground. To compensate for this, many farmers have been increasing crop yields by spraying them with diluted hydrogen peroxide (5 to 16 ounces of 35% mixed with 20 gallons of water per acre). H202 is a natural sustance, in fact, our body produces H202 to fight infections when we are sick. Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[Biofuel] Our Interconnections: Their Severing and Repair
Great article with more implications of our interconnections and the ramifications of ignoring them. In reference to Tom's suggestion that we can demand anything of the U.S. to stop using the IMF, World Bank and WTO, a very cynical me says...whatever!!! Why waste our time...and probably get shot in the mean time if we are ever able to organize an effort large enough that could make a difference? Actually, I believe the same folks who demonstrate at IMF, World Bank and WTO meetings would be more effective if they would organize their efforts toward educating the public. The popular media (who presently educate the public) and are owned by the same corporations running the U.S., IMF, World Bank, and WTO, will never let the demonstrators' story be told. Tom's last sentence, however, makes real sense: And we can also, as consumers, opt out as much as possible from the Wal-Martization of everything, and work to rebuild local economies. There you go. How important is that City Commission vote??? Board of Education vote??? Growing our own gardens? Turning over more of our lawns (for the suburbanites among us) to pollinator sanctuaries (ie native flowers, herbs, etc...) and fighting city hall (and maybe the neighbors too) until they realize what you're up to and why and helping them do same??? An old politican told me once that all politics are local...more true than ever in what may be our last chances to start at home to repair our connections with the planet and each other. Mike DuPree http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2007/04/13/the_route_of_the_problem.php The Route Of The Problem Tom Philpott April 13, 2007 Grist contributing writer Tom Philpott farms and cooks at Maverick Farms , a sustainable-agriculture nonprofit and small farm in the Blue Ridge Mountains of North Carolina. This article first appeared in Grist. In what surely counts as one of the greatest feats in the history of global trade, the United States has essentially outsourced its manufacturing base to China in little more than a decade. It all starts with shuttered factories. But in doing so, the U.S. has helped unleash new trends in global agriculture that threaten global climate stability and biodiversity. In short, China is rapidly plunking down factories and apartment buildings on prime farmland, and polluting much of what remains with industrial runoff. To feed its rapidly urbanizing and meat-hungry population, China is in turn outsourcing its agricultural production to Brazil, particularly soybeans for livestock feed. In response, Brazil is plowing up its vast savanna (and even rainforest) lands to plant soy, negating vitally important natural sponges for global carbon emissions and swallowing habitat in one of the world's richest stores of plant and animal life. Great Leap Forward? As recently as 1996, the U.S. imported a modest $51.5 billion in goods from China, and ran a trade deficit of $39.5 billion. Last year, U.S. demand sucked in $287.8 billion in Chinese goods, and our trade deficit gaped to $232.5 billion. Meanwhile, the U.S. manufacturing base has withered. American companies have been shuttering factories and laying off workers for decades, but those trends accelerated in the late 1990s. According to the Congressional Budget Office , U.S. manufacturing jobs plunged by nearly 20 percent between 1999 and 2004, and stand at their lowest level since the late 1950s. The rolling up of our manufacturing base has done little to mitigate growth in domestic energy use, which continues to rise steadily. But China's manufacturing boom has caused its own use of the dirtiest fossil fuels, coal and petroleum, to spike. Lester Brown of the Earth Policy Institute reports that China's petroleum consumption doubled between 1994 and 2004; the country now trails only the U.S. as the world's most profligate oil user. According to the Financial Times, China expects its oil use to double from current levels within five years. You can hear Wal-Mart's prices falling all the way from China. As for coal, The New York Times reported last year that China already consumes more than the U.S., Japan, and the European Union combined. The Times added-chillingly for anyone who understands the true horror of coal use-that China has increased coal consumption 14 percent in each of the past two years. Moreover, as oil prices rise, China is investing heavily in technologies to convert coal into liquid car fuel. Thus China's industrial boom has obvious-and dire-consequences for climate change. What does it mean for global agriculture? For one thing, China's voracious demand has helped ratchet up oil prices over the last five years, and high oil prices have sparked a global rush to transform food crops into fuel. The U.S. government has hotly promoted this trend, inspiring record
Re: [Biofuel] Solar power breakthrough at Massey
Kirk...I hear ya on the centralization and maybe that's what the folks at Massey are having to deal, although by the article they appear to be trying to deal with it (or some version of it) on their own terms. By the article we can have no way of knowing what those terms might be and how much Corporate World will be able to actually centralize the process. Nonetheless, I'm with you, Joe, on wanting to hold my breath for this one. I've thought often of installing the solar panels and all the equipment you need to make them happen, but somehow I sensed something better was on the way. Now to read this... Who on the list is from New Zealand? Any chance someone there can get us more info? I'd love to know what's on the minds of the folks developing the process, what they're thinking in terms of further development and distribution. Unless I'm missing something, this looks like something that can be available to many, many more people than other solar means currently available. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Solar power breakthrough at Massey real soon now ;) The problem is the powers that be want centralized power for control. Kirk Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Porphyrin dyes and nanotitanides are very promising ideas. There is a company which claims to be leading in dyesol technologies but so far they don't have much to offer in terms of real product. I don't know much about the lifetime of the dye which I suspect is the thing that will degrade under UV. The nano titanium dioxide should be good forever as well as the transparent conductive oxide on the upper layer of the junction. Efficiencies are potentially very high due to the high band gap of the material. I want some for my house..hold your breath for this one. I think it will be worth it. Joe AltEnergyNetwork wrote: Solar power breakthrough at Massey New solar cells developed by Massey University don't need direct sunlight to operate and use a patented range of dyes that can be impregnated in roofs, window glass and eventually even clothing to produce power http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/thepress/4017784a11.html Get your daily alternative energy news Alternate Energy Resource Network 1000+ news sources-resources updated daily http://www.alternate-energy.net Next_Generation_Grid http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/next_generation_grid Alternative_Energy_Politics http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Alternative_Energy_Politics http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/next_generation_grid/ Tomorrow-energy http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tomorrow-energy Earth_Rescue_International http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Earth_Rescue_International ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. -- ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[Biofuel] Telephone War Tax Refund/Credit
Sorry for getting this info out so late, but just came to my attention. Looks like we're all due a refund on a war tax portion of the taxes we've been paying on our telephone bills. The tax was originally imposed in 1898...what? Yep, 1898. To help fund the Spanish-American War. You remember that one, don't ya??? Mike http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/040707F.shtml# Take the IRS's War Tax Refund Offer By Amy Goodman King Features Syndicate Thursday 05 April 2007 If you are upset that Congress won't defund the war in Iraq, there's something you can do: Stop paying a tax. Legally. The Internal Revenue Service is giving a rebate this year on a telephone war tax. This is one of those line items at the bottom of your phone bill. The tax was instituted in 1898 to help the United States pay for the Spanish-American War. Individuals and businesses have one chance to obtain a refund on this telephone war tax, by asking for it in their 2006 income tax returns. Remarkably, the Internal Revenue Service has made it easy to request the refund, yet IRS Commissioner Mark Everson says that many taxpayers are overlooking it. Obtaining the refund is easy. But first, a little history. The Spanish-American War lasted from April to August of 1898 and was predicated on a U.S. government demand that Spain abandon its colony in Cuba, which the U.S. subsequently occupied. By the end of 1898, the United States had also taken over the Philippines, Guam and Puerto Rico. The war was also used as an official pretext to take over Hawaii. The Senate debated over the annexation in secret, some arguing for total annexation, others for just Pearl Harbor. Sen. Richard Pettigrew of South Dakota derided the annexation plan as money thrown away in the interest of a few sugar planters and adventurers in Hawaii. Military bases and raw materials - sound familiar? The telephone tax was instituted as part of the War Revenue Bill, which expanded the government's ability to collect taxes, ostensibly to pay for the war. As with the myriad controversial pork items added to the recent Iraq war funding authorization, the 1898 bill was the subject of scores of amendments that benefited big business. These included tax breaks for powerful industries like the insurance companies and tobacco dealers. The telephone tax of 1 cent per call targeted the wealthy, who were generally the only ones who had telephone access in 1898. After the war, the tax was eventually raised to 3 percent. Since the Vietnam War, it has been the target of war tax resisters, people who refuse to pay taxes because they do not want to fund war. Tax resistance has a long history. Henry David Thoreau promoted it in his essay Civil Disobedience to fight slavery: If a thousand men were not to pay their tax bills this year, that would not be a violent and bloody measure, as it would be to pay them, and enable the State to commit violence and shed innocent blood. The IRS has vigorously targeted full-fledged tax resisters - ranging from those refusing to pay the Pentagon's percentage of their taxes, to those who outright refuse to pay anything to the government - making an example of them by garnishing wages, sending them to prison for tax evasion and confiscating their homes. Tax resisters figured out that they could protest the telephone tax simply by writing their checks to the phone company, withholding the amount of the tax. The IRS deemed the collection of the tax too expensive, relative to the small amount of the tax itself. According to the National War Tax Resistance Coordinating Committee, early collection efforts by the IRS included the auctioning of Jim Glock's bicycle for $22 in 1973 and of George and Lillian Willoughby's VW Bug in 1971 for $123 (in 2004, Lillian, at 89, with the support of her husband, George, 94, was jailed for protesting the Iraq war). Court losses convinced the IRS to dump the telephone war tax in 2006 and to offer the retroactive rebate for phone taxes paid between March 1, 2003, and July 31, 2006. Typical refunds will be between $30 and $60. Ironically, while the IRS has dropped the tax on long-distance and bundled services, like high-speed Internet, the tax remains for older, standard local phone services and rental of equipment that enables the disabled to use phones. Thus, this tax on the rich is now a tax on the poor. Congressman John Lewis, D-Ga., has submitted a bill to permanently wipe this remnant clean. Two-thirds of the bill's co-sponsors are anti-tax Republicans, so Democrats might be leery about passing it. The website, lists step-by-step instructions on how to recoup the telephone tax rebate, and recommends donating it to charity. While Congress and President Bush trade barbs over war funding, with a simple check mark on your tax return you can help to defund the war. Claim your telephone tax
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Earth Hour
Hi Keith...thanks for this response--a real eye opener for this closed in, cutoff from truth, middle American white boy. I'd like to add the following: http://www.truthout.org:80/docs_2006/040407R.shtml Mike DuPree The Martin Luther King You Don't See on TV By Jeff Cohen and Norman Solomon t r u t h o u t | Guest Contributors Wednesday 04 April 2007 It's become a TV ritual: Every year on April 4, as Americans commemorate Martin Luther King's death, we get perfunctory network news reports about the slain civil rights leader. The remarkable thing about these reviews of King's life is that several years - his last years - are totally missing, as if flushed down a memory hole. What TV viewers see is a closed loop of familiar file footage: King battling segregation in Birmingham (1963); reciting his dream of racial harmony at the rally in Washington (1963); marching for voting rights in Selma, Alabama (1965); and finally, lying dead on the motel balcony in Memphis (1968). An alert viewer might notice that the chronology jumps from 1965 to 1968. Yet King didn't take a sabbatical near the end of his life. In fact, he was speaking and organizing as diligently as ever. Almost all of those speeches were filmed or taped. But they're not shown today on TV. Why? It's because national news media have never come to terms with what Martin Luther King Jr. stood for during his final years. In the early 1960s, when King focused his challenge on legalized racial discrimination in the South, most major media were his allies. Network TV and national publications graphically showed the police dogs and bullwhips and cattle prods used against Southern blacks who sought the right to vote or [the right] to eat at a public lunch counter. But after passage of civil rights acts in 1964 and 1965, King began challenging the nation's fundamental priorities. He maintained that civil rights laws were empty without human rights - including economic rights. For people too poor to eat at a restaurant or afford a decent home, King said, anti-discrimination laws were hollow. Noting that a majority of Americans below the poverty line were white, King developed a class perspective. He decried the huge income gaps between rich and poor, and called for radical changes in the structure of our society to redistribute wealth and power. True compassion, King declared, is more than flinging a coin to a beggar; it comes to see that an edifice which produces beggars needs restructuring. By 1967, King had also become the country's most prominent opponent of the Vietnam War, and a staunch critic of overall US foreign policy, which he deemed militaristic. In his Beyond Vietnam speech delivered at New York's Riverside Church on April 4, 1967 - a year to the day before he was murdered - King called the United States the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today. (Full text/audio here.) From Vietnam to South Africa to Latin America, King said, the US was on the wrong side of a world revolution. King questioned our alliance with the landed gentry of Latin America, and asked why the US was suppressing revolutions of the shirtless and barefoot people in the Third World, instead of supporting them. In foreign policy, King also offered an economic critique, complaining about capitalists of the West investing huge sums of money in Asia, Africa and South America, only to take the profits out with no concern for the social betterment of the countries. You haven't heard the Beyond Vietnam speech on network news retrospectives, but national media heard it loud and clear back in 1967 - and loudly denounced it. Time magazine called it demagogic slander that sounded like a script for Radio Hanoi. The Washington Post patronized that King has diminished his usefulness to his cause, his country, his people. In his last months, King was organizing the most militant project of his life: the Poor People's Campaign. He crisscrossed the country to assemble a multiracial army of the poor that would descend on Washington - engaging in nonviolent civil disobedience at the Capitol, if need be - until Congress enacted a poor people's bill of rights. Reader's Digest warned of an insurrection. King's economic bill of rights called for massive government jobs programs to rebuild America's cities. He saw a crying need to confront a Congress that had demonstrated its hostility to the poor - appropriating military funds with alacrity and generosity, but providing poverty funds with miserliness. How familiar that sounds today, nearly 40 years after King's efforts on behalf of the poor people's mobilization were cut short by an assassin's bullet. In 2007, in this nation of immense wealth, the White House and most in Congress continue to accept the perpetuation of poverty. They fund foreign wars with alacrity and generosity,
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Earth Hour
I like it...I can imagine kind of a twist on John Lennon's Imagine, except that asking folks to imagine living a life of peace, imagine living a life in darkness...cool. But what do people do when they're in the dark??? Hmm...well...I might suggest that although we might take the equivalent of 75,000 cars off the road for a year, Earth Hour might add a million new souls to the planet. Just a thought. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Dawie Coetzee To: Biofuels Mailing List Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 12:35 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Fw: Earth Hour - Forwarded Message From: To: Sent: Wednesday, 28 March, 2007 7:59:04 PM Subject: Fw: Earth Hour Subject: FW: Earth Hour EARTH HOUR - 7.30pm to 8.30pm - Saturday March 31, 2007 Earth Hour is a fabulous opportunity for you and your family to do something about climate change. On one night, in one hour, more will be done, more will be demonstrated, and more will be learned than through a hundred 'talk-fests'. And you can help make it happen. What is Earth Hour? It sounds simple, but it is very, very dramatic. At 7.30pm on March 31st 2007, we will be encouraging companies, government departments, individuals and families to turn off their lights for just one hour. If we meet our objectives during the first Earth Hour, the savings in green house gas emissions will be the equivalent of taking 75,000 medium sized cars off the road for one whole year! Now that's something worth doing. Why? The facts are alarmingly clear: * The climate is changing! The 10 hottest years on record have occurred since 1990. In fact 2005 was the hottest year since record keeping began. * More than 95% of the Great Barrier Reef will have been destroyed by 2050 if carbon dioxide emissions aren't reduced. (WWF-International) * One million species worldwide are facing extinction due to climate change. But not everybody listens to the facts. Earth Hour is your opportunity to demonstrate how a simple change in our way of life could change, and help save, our planet. The goals of Earth Hour: Households : Most of us use unnecessary electricity. Appliances on standby, old style light bulbs, lights left on when we're not using them. Earth Hour will help us all to realise just how simply we can make a dramatic impact upon global warming (and our own power bills). We will see it in action. Companies : We want companies to be involved. If every company turned off its lights when the buildings weren't in use, and combined it with energy saving technology, we would save between 2 and 4 million tonnes of greenhouse gasses every year. Earth Hour will show companies just how easy that is. To make it an annual event : Out of the 8,766 hours in a year, let's give one back to the earth. What you can do: Sign up to Earth Hour and Pledge to turn off your lights on March 31st from 7.30pm to 8.30pm by logging onto www.earthhour.org You will receive all the information you need to make Earth Hour a great success (and to cut your own energy bills in the long term). Pledging is free. Get off standby : Turn off all the electronic equipment and appliances in your home that are not being used or are on standby. Computers, televisions, stereo equipment, phone chargers, DVD or video equipment. Tell a friend : Spread the word about earth Hour by involving your friends, family and workmates. Get them to pledge at earthhour.org and most importantly, turn off the lights at 7.30pm Saturday 31 March 2007. Spread the word - Once you have signed up for Earth Hour tell a friend; spread the word at work; tell your boss; mention it at school, at your local sports club or society group, you can even run it past your neighbours! Make it an event. Get your family and friends to switch off their lights as well; Take some binoculars and look at the stars; sit and talk by candlelight; Explore your backyard by torchlight; Have fun with sparklers; or just do something non-electric as a family; Have a picnic-at-dusk; pretend you are camping; or have a candlelight dinner. For more info on Earth Hour, check out www.earthhour.org EARTH HOUR. MAKE IT HAPPEN. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.18/733 - Release Date: 2007/03/25 11:07 AM -- New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Earth Hour
I love it...looking forward to trying my hand at making candles per technique described. And please no one get me wrong about possibly eschewing the benefits of lights off for at least an hour...at least an hour! Keith...I have these questions, however. You mention plenty of room regarding more people on the planet. I seem to remember you having made this comment before. While I don't doubt we might have plenty of room, quantitatively, what about the resources to support more...and more...and more of us? It seems to me that human overpopulation is the single most imbalancing act occurring on the planet, making all efforts to introduce and manage behavior that might be beneficial to the planet and each other incredibly difficult, if not impossible. It seems to me the sooner the world adopts a zero population growth strategy the better it will be for all. Your thoughts? MD - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Earth Hour I like it...I can imagine kind of a twist on John Lennon's Imagine, except that asking folks to imagine living a life of peace, imagine living a life in darkness...cool. But what do people do when they're in the dark??? Hmm...well...I might suggest that although we might take the equivalent of 75,000 cars off the road for a year, Earth Hour might add a million new souls to the planet. Just a thought. Mike DuPree :-) Plenty of room. This was for Candle Night - that's where Earth Hour comes from. See Cooking oil candles (scroll down a little): http://journeytoforever.org/edu.html#biofuel Candle Night: http://www.candle-night.org/index.html http://www.candle-night.org/english/ Best Keith - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Dawie Coetzee To: mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.orgBiofuels Mailing List Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 12:35 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Fw: Earth Hour - Forwarded Message From: To: Sent: Wednesday, 28 March, 2007 7:59:04 PM Subject: Fw: Earth Hour Subject: FW: Earth Hour EARTH HOUR - 7.30pm to 8.30pm - Saturday March 31, 2007 Earth Hour is a fabulous opportunity for you and your family to do something about climate change. On one night, in one hour, more will be done, more will be demonstrated, and more will be learned than through a hundred 'talk-fests'. And you can help make it happen. What is Earth Hour? It sounds simple, but it is very, very dramatic. At 7.30pm on March 31st 2007, we will be encouraging companies, government departments, individuals and families to turn off their lights for just one hour. If we meet our objectives during the first Earth Hour, the savings in green house gas emissions will be the equivalent of taking 75,000 medium sized cars off the road for one whole year! Now that's something worth doing. Why? The facts are alarmingly clear: * The climate is changing! The 10 hottest years on record have occurred since 1990. In fact 2005 was the hottest year since record keeping began. * More than 95% of the Great Barrier Reef will have been destroyed by 2050 if carbon dioxide emissions aren't reduced. (WWF-International) * One million species worldwide are facing extinction due to climate change. But not everybody listens to the facts. Earth Hour is your opportunity to demonstrate how a simple change in our way of life could change, and help save, our planet. The goals of Earth Hour: Households : Most of us use unnecessary electricity. Appliances on standby, old style light bulbs, lights left on when we're not using them. Earth Hour will help us all to realise just how simply we can make a dramatic impact upon global warming (and our own power bills). We will see it in action. Companies : We want companies to be involved. If every company turned off its lights when the buildings weren't in use, and combined it with energy saving technology, we would save between 2 and 4 million tonnes of greenhouse gasses every year. Earth Hour will show companies just how easy that is. To make it an annual event : Out of the 8,766 hours in a year, let's give one back to the earth. What you can do: Sign up to Earth Hour and Pledge to turn off your lights on March 31st from 7.30pm to 8.30pm by logging onto http://www.earthhour.org/www.earthhour.org You will receive all the information you need to make Earth Hour a great success (and to cut your own energy bills in the long term). Pledging is free. Get off standby : Turn off all the electronic equipment and appliances in your home that are not being used or are on standby. Computers, televisions, stereo equipment, phone chargers, DVD or video equipment. Tell a friend : Spread the word about earth Hour by involving your friends, family and workmates. Get them to pledge at http://earthhour.org/earthhour.org and most importantly, turn off the
[Biofuel] Japan Earthquake...Keith ok?
Hey Keith and Midori...you and yours okay after the Earthquake? It looks like you are not far from the epicenter. Mike DuPree___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Secound document
Hi Keith...was not able to open Second Doc attachment due to following message. Mike Norton AntiVirus removed the attachment: secound_document1.pif. The W32.Sality.U risk was detected in the attachment. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 4:54 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Secound document Hi! My secound document. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Secound document
Appreciate the info Robert... - Original Message - From: robert and benita rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Secound document MK DuPree wrote: Hi Keith...was not able to open Second Doc attachment due to following message. Mike It's a spoof. Keith doesn't write that way, nor would he misspell the word second. robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice The Long Journey New Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Japan Earthquake...Keith ok?
Whew...and...SCHWEEET!!! - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Japan Earthquake...Keith ok? Hey Keith and Midori...you and yours okay after the Earthquake? It looks like you are not far from the epicenter. Mike DuPree Hi Mike Thanks so much for asking. We're okay, no sign of the earthquake here, not even a tremble. The epicentre was about 200 km from here (125 miles), in Noto Peninsula. We got used to the whole place shaking all the time when we lived in Tokyo, but we seldom get a tremor here. Though Noto hadn't had an earthquake for 75 years. Thanks again Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Biotech industry withdraws GM foods
Well knock my socks off and slap my grandma (deceased...but I know she'd appreciate the exultations) Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:35 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Biotech industry withdraws GM foods BIOTECH INDUSTRY WITHDRAWS GM FOODS PRESS RELEASE, Friends of the Earth Europe, 20th March 2007 Brussels, March 20th, 2007 - The European Union is today discussing the official withdrawal by the biotech industry of five genetically modified (GM) foods and crops, including the first GM crop that was ever grown in Europe. [1] Friends of the Earth Europe has highlighted this as further proof that GM crops are failing. [2] Helen Holder, GMO campaigner for Friends of the Earth Europe said: There is no market for GM food and crops, and companies are even withdrawing them from the market. European citizens want GM-free food and EU leaders need to take the necessary steps to make this happen. These genetically modified foods should have never been allowed to be grown in the first place, as no one knows the long term effects to both people and the environment. Bans by EU Member States on three of these five GM crops were central to the transatlantic trade dispute in the World Trade Organisations (WTO) which ended in 2006. The WTO ruled that counties did have the right to prohibit GM crops but that the bans in the EU had not followed WTO procedures. Helen Holder continued: It is an absolute disgrace that European taxpayers money was spent defending a trade dispute about products that biotech companies were about to withdraw. The biotech industry should be forced to pay the EU compensation for the time and money they have wasted. The withdrawals will be discussed at a meeting today of Member States following letters from the biotech industry stating that they will no longer be marketed as they are not grown on global basis. [3] The products include a controversial GM maize that was initially grown in Spain but was stopped following health concerns because it contains a resistance gene to the commonly used antibiotic, ampicillin. It was also central to environmental concerns in the United States after research indicated that it could damage the Monarch butterfly.[4] *** For more information, please contact: Helen Holder, GM Campaigner at Friends of the Earth Europe: Tel : +32 2 542 0182, Mobile +32 474 857 638, Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rosemary Hall, Communications Officer at Friends of the Earth Europe: Tel: +32 25 42 61 05, Mobile: +32 485 930515, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Notes: [1] The first GM crop to be grown in Europe was genetically modified maize Bt176, produced by Syngenta. [2] A recent detailed study shows that environmentally-friendly farming will create more jobs and make the EU more competitive than if it grows genetically modified (GM) crops: http://www.foeeurope.org/publications/2007/FoEE_biotech_MTR_midlifecri sis_March07.pdf [3] Standing Committee of the Food Chain and Animal Health, http://ec.europa.eu/food/committees/regulatory/scfcah/biosafety/agenda41_en.pdf [4] The products being withdrawn are: Genetically modified maize, Bt176 produced by Syngenta Genetically modified oilseed rape, Ms1xRf1, produced by Bayer Genetically modified oilseed rape, Ms1xRf2, produced by Bayer Generically modified oilseed rape, Topas 19/2, produced by Bayer Genetically modified maize, GA21xMON810, produced by Monsanto European Commission proposals for withdrawals: Withdrawal from the market of Bt176 (SYN-EV176-9) maize and its derived products http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2004_2009/documents/dv/614r1-/ 614r1-en.pdf Withdrawal from the market of Ms1xRf1 (ACS BN^ò^ò4 7xACS BN^ò^ò1 4) hybrid oilseed rape and its derived products http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2004_2009/documents/dv/615r1-/ 615r1-en.pdf Withdrawal from the market of Ms1xRf2 (ACS BN^ò^ò4 7xACS BN^ò^ò2 5) hybrid oilseed rape and its derived products http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2004_2009/documents/dv/616r1-/ 616r1-en.pdf Withdrawal from the market of Topas 19/2 (ACS BN^ò^ò7 1) oilseed rape and its derived products http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2004_2009/documents/dv/617r1-/ 617r1-en.pdf Withdrawal from the market of products derived from GA21xMON810 (MON ^ò^ò^ò21 9xMON ^ò^ò81^ò -6) maize http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2004_2009/documents/dv/618r1-/ 618r1-en.pdf Syngenta Bt176 maize http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2004_2009/documents/dv/614r1-/6 14r1-en.pdf Bayer MS1/RF1 oilseed rape http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2004_2009/documents/dv/615r1-/6 15r1-en.pdf Bayer MS1/RF2 oilseed rape http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2004_2009/documents/dv/616r1-/6 16r1-en.pdf Bayer Falcon oilseed rape http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2004_2009/documents/dv/617r1-/6 17r1-en.pdf Monsanto GA21 x
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Cave Of Weed
lol...ummm...incredibly sophisticated distribution network? and they are off the grid? I received a post card from them the other day, mailed from somewhere in Tibet, mentioning something about franchising the operation. I wrote Return to Keith Addison, Kyoto Prefect across the mailing address. Figured the old boy could maybe use a little help getting that Journey rolling. Good luck to all. MD - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Cave Of Weed Were they traced back from a sale or did the $10,000 a month electric bill do it? :) Kirk MK DuPree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did someone on the List talk about going underground if Real ID is implemented? Dig this... - Original Message - From: Mendoza, Ray R [NTK] To: Golf Teacher ; Travis Snyder ; Pflug, Stephen [NTK] ; Larry Donahue ; Corinne Donahue ; Cathleen Martin ; Colleen Mendoza ; Mila ; Sean Donahue ; Fenske, Mike ; Jeff Sears ; Mark Ferris ; Robert Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 10:54 AM Subject: FW: Cave Of Weed ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Fw: How the Government is Threatening Your Freedom to UseSupplements
I hope you will watch this. Good background on exactly how our health freedom is under attack. I contend the real impetus behind the Real ID Act is not securing our borders and controlling immigration, it is controlling our freedom to choose for ourselves how we take care of our bodies. Once we are forced to carry a national id card for any other purposes that the Secretary shall determine, a whole host of new purposes for carrying the card, like access to nationally prescribed health care and ultimately human chip implantation, the chip for which has already been approved by the FDA, will follow. This is absurd...and outrageous. But it's happening, right here, right now. Mike - Original Message - From: D. Mindock To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 12:42 AM Subject: [Biofuel] How the Government is Threatening Your Freedom to UseSupplements http://www.mercola.com/2007/mar/15/how-the-government-is-threatening-your-freedom-to-use-supplements.htm How the Government is Threatening Your Freedom to Use Supplements The FDA protects corporate interests, not consumers. The agency pretends they are on the side of free trade, but nothing could be further from the truth. Instead, they are on the side of regulations and special interests, all for the protection of certain multi-national corporations. That's the message behind this short video (28 min) you must watch, We Become Silent: The Last Days of Health Freedom. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Fw: Why 4/9/07 Will Change the Resource World Forever
Subscribe Today!FYI - Original Message - From: Energy and Capital To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 10:12 AM Subject: Why 4/9/07 Will Change the Resource World Forever To ensure that you receive future issues of Energy and Capital, please add [EMAIL PROTECTED] to your address book or to your safe list in your mail settings. Tuesday, March 20, 2007 Dear Energy and Capital Reader: Mark your calendars for Monday, April 9. Highlight it with a big X. Or better yet, write R.I.P. in it. That's when Energy and Capital will officially eulogize the end of cheap gas. You see, on that day, something we've been telling you about for months will finally come true: The leaders of Russia, Iran, Qatar, Algeria and Venezuela will meet in Doha, Qatar to form a Natural Gas OPEC. Yes, you're reading that correctly. The OPEC for gas will be formed. According to the Russian news source Kommersant . . . Kommersant has learned that last week some of the world's leading natural gas exporters reached a final agreement on the creation of a so-called 'gas OPEC.' The consortium of gas-rich countries, which at the moment includes Russia, Iran, Qatar, Venezuela, and Algeria, is due to be formally organized in the Qatari capital of Doha on April 9. The appearance of such a powerful player in the energy arena will undoubtedly meet with an extremely negative reaction from the United States and the European Union. --March 19, 2007 My friends, it's over. Finito. Caput. These guys will control 70% of the world's natural gas supply . . . and they won't think twice about jacking up the price. And if you think I'm exaggerating, think again. In a newly-minted memorandum , the Army's assistant chief of staff for installation management is more worried about natural gas than oil, saying . . . Current Army assumption is that natural gas may cease to be a viable fuel for the Army within the next 25 years based on price volatility and affordable supply availability. But, of course, here at Energy and Capital we see this coming crisis as a potential investment windfall. Mike Schaefer has a new investment he says could be the greatest of his career. It's a tiny Wyoming company that has created a way to exploit just about every natural gas source in the U.S. In addition to that, it'll reduce our dependence on the Gas OPEC while preventing one of the greatest environmental disasters in American history. Last month, the company landed a deal with a $16 billion energy giant to begin work on 500 natural gas wells in the Powder River Basin. To learn about this device that'll make America natural-gas independent, get your free report here. Regards, Brian Hicks http://www.angelnexus.com/o/web/966 Energy and Capital You can manage your subscription and get our privacy policy here. Energy and Capital, Copyright © 2006, Angel Publishing LLC, P.O. Box 84905, Phoenix, AZ 85071. All rights reserved. No statement or expression of opinion, or any other matter herein, directly or indirectly, is an offer or the solicitation of an offer to buy or sell the securities or financial instruments mentioned. While we believe the sources of information to be reliable, we in no way represent or guarantee the accuracy of the statements made herein. Energy and Capital does not provide individual investment counseling, act as an investment advisor, or individually advocate the purchase or sale of any security or investment. The publisher, editors and consultants of Angel Publishing may actively trade in the investments discussed in this newsletter. They may have substantial positions in the securities recommended and may increase or decrease such positions without notice. Neither the publisher nor the editors are registered investment advisors. Subscribers should not ! view this publication as offering personalized legal or investment counseling. Investments recommended in this publication should be made only after consulting with your investment advisor and only after reviewing the prospectus or financial statements of the company in question. Unauthorized reproduction of this newsletter or its contents by Xerography, facsimile, or any other means is illegal and punishable by law. Please note: It is not our intention to send email to anyone who doesn't want it. If you're not sure why you're getting this e-letter, or no longer wish to receive it, get more info here, including our privacy policy and information on how to manage your subscription. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org
[Biofuel] William Jennings Bryan
The following two paragraphs are from The Writer's Almanac for today, Monday, March 19. Apparently I have been like so many others and remember him for his role in the Scopes Monkey Trial (as depicted in the movie based on the play Inherit the Wind, which the article does not mention and you might read about here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inherit_the_Wind) where he argued for teaching against evolution being taught in the public schools. But read what else Bryan stood for. We've been discussing recently the role of public relations in America. The play was supposedly intended as a warning about McCarthyism and hailed as one of the great American plays of the 20th century (as) its themes of religious belief, religious tolerance and freedom of thought resonate down to the present day. I was personally highly influenced when I saw the movie as a very young boy, concluding that whatever else Bryan stood for I could care less if he was so determined to box up my thought, especially thought based upon my attempts to not just take another person's word for something but to use my own senses to discover the truth. Is this ironic or what??? Consequently, I never learned any more about Bryan until now, perhaps some 40 years later, the net effect of my having seen the movie being to influence me towards Bryan personally exactly the opposite of the movie's (ie the play's) supposed intention socially. Mike DuPree It's the birthday of one of the least successful presidential candidates in American history, William Jennings Bryan, (books by this author) born in Salem, Illinois (1860). He ran for president as the Democratic candidate three times, and he lost each time. He's probably best remembered today for his role in the famous Scopes Monkey Trial (1925). Bryan argued against teaching evolution in public schools in part because he objected to Social Darwinism, and he believed that the theory of evolution was fueling the Eugenics movement. But he was also an extremely influential politician. He became a Democrat because he believed that Republicans weren't addressing the concerns of poor rural farmers across the country. Bryan believed farmers were the victims of gold speculators and corrupt loan agents. He was also one of the early supporters of women's suffrage, corporate income taxes, labor rights, the eight-hour workday, antitrust laws, and the direct election of U.S. senators. He was one of the first people to advocate expanding the powers of the Federal government to help ordinary people, and it was that idea that became the new foundation of the Democratic Party. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Fw: Grocery Store Cancer Fighter
FYI - Original Message - From: Health Myths Exposed [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael DuPree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 12:34 AM Subject: Grocery Store Cancer Fighter Life-Saving Health Briefs By Shane Ellison, M.Sc. Author Health Myths Exposed and Hidden Truth about Cholesterol-Lowering Drugs Free at www.healthmyths.net +++ Warning: Some Health Briefs may shock and even anger you. Feel free to forward. +++ Potent Cancer Fighter Found at Your Grocery Store Green tea's cancer fighting ability has been well established in both animal models and human trials. One mechanism by which green tea fights cancer is by blocking the production of vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF) in our body. Doing so halts the growth of tumors – a welcomed benefit to cancer victims. The cogency of these studies ignited the Division of Cancer Prevention at the National Cancer Institute (NCI) to invite applications for grants to foster the identification of molecular targets from green tea. Rather than promote the unpatentable herb, these pharmaceutically compliant research houses are working toward developing a copycat molecule. We may be able to develop new anti-cancer drugs based on the structure of the EGCG molecule. - Professor Roger Thornely, John Innes Center in Norwich A copycat molecule would afford patent rights to drug companies who refuse to sell proven natural products at inexpensive costs. They strive for monopolization - causing patients to trade wealth for health. Keep it simple, obtain green tea from your grocery store and drink it daily to ward off cancer. Reference: Ellison, Shane. Hidden Truth about Cholesterol Lowering Drugs - healthmyths.net +++ Supplemental green tea with ginger: http://health-fx.net/store/product.php?productid=16142cat=260page=1 Most potent and effective organic green tea available +++ Damn Spam! Stop spam in your inbox - FREE: http://spamarrest.com/affl?514727 +++ Live free of pandemic killers such as obesity, insulin resistance, cancer, heart disease, and many others! Visit www.healthmyths.net +++ This is not medical advice. Medical diagnosis and treatment is constrained by law to be the monopoly of state licensed practitioners. Shane Ellison holds a Masters degree in organic chemistry and a Bachelors in biology and chemistry. His experience in drug design and synthesis afforded him a wealth of knowledge in the areas of natural medicine and therapeutic nutrition. He is not a doctor. In fact, he has never even read Gray's Anatomy. healthmyths.net 3600 Cerrillos Dr. #714C-802 Santa Fe New Mexico 87507 United States -- To unsubscribe or to change your contact details, visit: http://getresponse.com/r/0Zij/-/V8WbTG4BX ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Yellowstone Supervolcano Making Strange Rumblings
My stomach makes strange rumblings too and I know I'm an inch shorter than I was a year ago, oh, and I've been sleeping for most of my nearly 55 years while my landscape has been reshaped, does all this mean I am about to explode?? Thank you, Kirk, for passing along the astute observations of a Frosty Piss. Makes me appreciate the fire in my belly. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren To: biofuel Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 2:29 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Yellowstone Supervolcano Making Strange Rumblings ++ | Yellowstone Supervolcano Making Strange Rumblings | | from the if-you-need-me-i'll-be-in-the-netherlands dept. | | posted by Zonk on Thursday March 15, @15:28 (Science)| | http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/03/15/1836223 | ++ [0]Frosty Piss writes Supervolcanoes can sleep for centuries or millennia before producing incredibly massive eruptions that can drop ash across an entire continent. One of the largest supervolcanoes in the world lies beneath Yellowstone National Park. [1]Significant activity continues beneath the surface. And the activity has been increasing lately, scientists have discovered. In addition, the nearby Teton Range of mountains is somehow getting shorter. The findings, reported this month in the Journal of [2]Journal of Geophysical Research, suggest that a slow and gradual movement of a volcano over time can shape a landscape more than a violent eruption. Discuss this story at: http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=07/03/15/1836223 Links: 0. http://slashdot.org/NoJailForPot.com 1. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17629668/ 2. http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2007/2006JB004325.shtml -- Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] New political metaphors
Works for me, Dawie...unfortunately the hydroponic mind, having been carefully crafted and nurtured over the years, when presented with your new terminology, will not be able to understand words with more than one syllable and will probably think it is being presented with some kind of sexual politics that has as its' choices polygamy on one side and homosexuality on the other. I'm not exactly sure why, except that my observation of the hydroponic mind is that it tends to reduce to the sexual anything it can't or refuses to understand. I'm also not saying there is necessarily anything wrong with either of the two orientations that I am suggesting the hydroponic mind will conceive. What I'm saying is that when it comes to politics it takes an honest analysis of the political landscape to survive, so if we are going to adopt these words, we have to be prepared for the potential meanings the hydroponic mind will unnaturally evolve, ie it's a really screwed up world in which we live, the left and right having totally morphed into twisted configurations of their true selves, and real advances in any area of life are usually made when we KISS...Keep It Simple, Stupid. No, I'm not saying you are stupid. Homophobic mind, oops, see, I mean hydroponic mind is stupid and anyone who will attempt to lead it needs to at least look like they are stupid too and lead that way, GWB being the almost perfect example. I say almost perfect, because, as you know, GWB doesn't just look stupid and leads that way; he IS stupid and leads that way, which may be why he is so successful. Oh oh, I've said too much. Here come the thought police outside my door. I hear their commander screaming at them now...COMPANY HALT PREE-SENT ARMS! Oh man, tomb of the unknown soldier here I come. Later. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Dawie Coetzee To: Biofuels Mailing List Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:14 AM Subject: [Biofuel] New political metaphors I think most of us will agree that the terms 'left' and 'right' are fast losing their relevence in the political sense. Many of us will optimistically try to deny that there is any new dichotomy in its place. I have been aware of such a dichotomy for over a decade, and I submit that it is real, that it is definite, and that it has a rock-face that, when reached, will not be susceptible to any post-modern 'both-and' notion. Soon, people will have to choose, and their choices will have implications, possibly tragic ones, possibly heroic ones. Might I suggest two new political terms: 'permacultural' and 'hydroponic'? The world is increasingly moving to the latter approach: systems are simplified so that they may be tightly monitored by government agencies and strictly controlled by legislation. To this end oligopolies are nurtured and renegade human creativity stifled, co-opted, or restricted to superficial irrelevancies. People are reduced to passive 'pure consumers'. The attitude seems to be that the environment is too important to allow people near it. Thus we find the world becoming in a sense 'indoor', a controlled environment. One gets the impression that all of Europe is turning into a single big Victorian drawing-room. Many would disagree with this approach, and there is an old tradition that answers well to the term 'permacultural'. It runs through a number of writers: Fritz Schumacher springs immediately to mind, but there are others. The aim is rather to build systems that have an intrinsic propensity to produce what is desirable, and then to leave them to get on with it. It is an approach that can accommodate a lot of exceptional behaviours, and it thrives on renegade creativity. It is however much more likely to run up against vested interests, be they political or economic, and therefore cannot really thrive inside a 'hydroponic' system. Many of the differences of opinion that have arisen from time to time in this group can be understood in the above terms. Try it. What say you? -Dawie -- Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new Yahoo! Mail. -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the
Re: [Biofuel] New political metaphors
Hi Keith...wonderful expose and thanks for the additional references. No doubt my views are suburban, middle-class American, I guess middle-middle class, maybe almost lower-middle class. Anyway, I'm not sure of your suggestion for my needing two terms. Could you please expound, keeping in mind we're more than a little schizo in this part of the world, so that about the time you think you have a handle on one term another appears which you try to assimilate thereby compounding the schizophrenia...? Otherwise, my comments on GWB definitely tongue-in-cheek, no, sarcastic, cynical rant that something as brilliant as the human mind could be so stupid as to be used the way his ilk (and his ilk for centuries before him) could use it. Anyway...you mention Edward Bernays...anyone interested might check out this four part BBC video series on the development of public relations in America and later in British politics: http://www.mercola.com/2007/mar/6/freud-was-used-to-control-the-masses.htm Edward Bernays absolutely pivotal. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] New political metaphors Hello Mike, Dawie Then you need two terms Mike. Your view of the hydroponic mind might be a bit American, but I guess it has its variations everywhere, or at least everywhere in the industrialised societies. Anyway it would apply to the subscribers, people who've been lulled and hypnotised by the altogether new levels of saturation available to the consent manufacturing industry since the dual arrival in the 70s of the neo-liberal economic era and of the silicon chip. The chip enabled much more powerful delivery systems, much closer control of just about everything, and the kind of reach that made corporate globalisation possible. But your description doesn't fit those who're calling the tune. They do have a lot of blind spots, but they're not stupid. This is something to be viewed over the last 30 years or so, not just the last decade, and the last 30 years also has it's historical context. Worth checking out the list archives on Edward Bernays, eg. Post-modernism followed the failure of the modernist project in the 60s, but since (for those who call the tune) that project was just an excuse for wealth-extraction anyway, it was replaced not by whatever post-modernism was supposed to lead us to, but by a much more potent and effective wealth-extraction system. Hence, for instance: http://www.cepr.net/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=423Itemid=8 CEPR - The Scorecard on Globalization 1980-2000: 20 Years of Diminished Progress July 2001, Mark Weisbrot, Dean Baker, Egor Kraev, and Judy Chen This report looks at economic and social indicators for all countries for which data are available and compares the period of 1980-2000 with the previous 20 years. Indicators include: the growth of income per person, life expectancy, mortality, literacy, and education. It finds a very clear decline in progress as compared with the period 1960-1980. Download report: http://www.cepr.net/documents/publications/globalization_2001_07_11.pdf The rich got richer and everybody else got a whole lot poorer. As we've established, poverty is not just an unfortunate side-effect of corporatism, it's an essential part of what they call wealth creation, ie wealth extraction and wealth concentration plus poverty creation, essential for the race-to-the-bottom style of labour relations upon which neo-liberal corporate globalisation depends. And the environment gets trashed along the way. In previous discussions people have tended to see all this as just more of the same. Of course you can find many of the same elements in the 50s and 60s, or back in the 1920s and 30s, or in the late 19th Century, or whenever. But that just explains it away, which makes it more dangerous. It's not just more of the same, unless you want to say that's what a tyrannosaurus is compared with a ghekko, just more of the same. On the other hand, this is the same old story that's been going on for the last 10,000 years or so, the problem of power, and though we seem to lose all the wars, it's been a story of steady progress, right up to now. Thus the microchip also enabled the Internet - the great leveller - and the Other Superpower, which will be the nemesis of what we're calling the hydroponic side. See How to kill a mammoth, by Roberto Verzola, secretary-general of the Philippine Greens: http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg30628.html [biofuel] Mammoth corporations We'll win in the end, but as Chomsky just wrote in the Guardian, A predator becomes more dangerous when wounded. So does a rat in a corner. So, Dawie, I don't really see the new dichotomy you talk of. It seems
[Biofuel] Fw: The Cavalry Stays Home
Energy and CapitalFYI - Original Message - From: Energy and Capital To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 5:17 PM Subject: The Cavalry Stays Home To ensure you receive future issues of Energy and Capital, please add [EMAIL PROTECTED] to your address book. -- Friday, March 9th, 2007 The Cavalry Stays Home By Chris Nelder The worst thing that could happen is to confuse ourselves and the public with too much spin about unlimited energy supplies at cheap prices, alternative fuels on a global scale, or energy independence in a matter of years. That kind of thinking simply dilutes our focus, defers the tough solutions that are needed today, and sets us all up for more future shocks and economic disruptions. -- Sadad al Husseini, former head of exploration and production for Saudi Aramco, in a January, 2007 interview with the Journal of Petroleum Technology When confronted with the indisputable reality of the peaking and decline of the world's top-producing oil fields, the cornucopian camp points to new projects as the cavalry that will ride in and save the day. High crude prices, they argue, will make formerly marginal oil projects profitable and encourage the development of new oil fields. But given recent events, it seems their faith in the Invisible Hand is ill-placed. Let's take a look at some of them. First, the Kashagan oil field in Kazakhstan. Situated on the western coast of the Caspian Sea, it's the largest new oil field discovery in over 30 years, with a potential production of 1.5 million b/d. That would make it one of the top four most productive oil fields in the world. (Only three of the world's 4,000 oil fields produce more than 1.5 mbpd, and all of them are either in decline or suspected of being in decline.) Consequently, production from Kashagan has been eagerly anticipated by cornucopians, who expected it to make up for the depletion of the world's mature fields. But two weeks ago, the Italian oil group operating the field, Eni, announced that the startup cost of the project is going to be almost double the initial estimate, at $19 billion vs. $10.3 billion. And that's just to get the initial phase of the project going through 2011, when it will produce 300,000 bpd. It's also going to take about three years longer than previously anticipated, beginning production around 2010, and won't hit its 1.5 mbpd peak production until 2019! Since it appears that we're already at the peak of global production, that means the Kashagan cavalry will show up just in time to clear the bodies off the battlefield. Just two days earlier, ExxonMobil announced that the costs of its much-anticipated, $15 billion liquefied natural gas (LNG) project in Qatar were running out of control, and so it decided to scrap the project altogether. Right now, everyone around us is postponing and delaying projects, Qatari Oil Minister al-Attiyah said. Oops, there goes another company of horsemen. Advertisement Legislation That Could Double Your Money - This Year! As the U.S. government prepares to implement new enviornmental regulations, a tiny $4.00 California-based company braces for its largest contract ever. This company's perfected a hybrid-electric bus that's not only clean, it's so cheap that transit operators could save as much as $155,643.69 on every single bus they buy. It's arriving just in time. California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, Illinois governor Rod Blagojevich and New Jersey governor Jon Corzine all have legislation to cope with Global Warming. Whether or not you believe in Global Warming, orders are coming in. And early investors stand to easily double their money over the next twelve months. Click here to find out more: http://www.angelnexus.com/o/web/902 -- This is a severe blow to the cornucopians, who have predicted a massive expansion of the liquefied natural gas industry. One week ago, PricewaterhouseCoopers released a report saying that LNG will deliver 31% of global gas by 2010, a doubling of the production level in 2005. About two thirds of that production was to come from Qatar. Exxon's announcement that they were scrapping the Qatar project was on February 21, a week before the PricewaterhouseCoopers report was released. Presumably the report was nearly done by that time. I wonder if anybody considered revising it, or if they just decided to let the optimistic story stand and hope that nobody would notice. Across the Caspian Sea from Kashagan, on the northeastern edge, is another highly anticipated oil project on Russia's Sakhalin Island. Royal Dutch Shell's Sakhalin II field is the world's largest
Re: [Biofuel] That bogus antioxidant study
I'm curious what botanicals the List thinks might be essential. My first thought would be those which strengthen the immune system, which might be what? Then? Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] That bogus antioxidant study Better start planting botanicals. We shall have to be self sufficient. I predict little success opposing the pharma corporations due to who owns them. Kirk D. Mindock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's when the Codex is due to kick in here in the USA. I have no link, just remember reading it somewhere. I think it has already kicked in Australia ( NZ?). It is being fought in Europe. I don't know about Canada, although they already can't get stuff, like DHEA, that we're still able to get here in the USA. The Codex is designed to harmonize to a lower standard. It invokes the precautionary principle in a really perverse way. It is embedded in CAFTA, btw. See: http://www.nocodexgenocide.com/page/page/3113337.htm Action site http://www.dr-rath-foundation.org/ Dr Rath is the main man in Europe who's fighting Codex http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php/?p=322 Site devoted to health freedom for us in the USA http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2004/11/02/stop_codex_rath_protests_plans_for_supplements.htm All around site that covers a myriad of health related topics with no BS. http://www.stopfdacensorship.org/ Stop the censorship of FDA and FTC. The FDA is really the scourge of the earth wrt real healing. They want to constrain our health freedom entirely and have us to believe that only prescription drugs (chemo, radiation, surgery) are real medicine. Nothing is further from the truth! Peace, D. Mindock - Original Message - From: MK DuPree To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] That bogus antioxidant study Hi D...Do you know the law that is compelling food supplements to be removed from health food store shelves in 2009? Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: D. Mindock To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 3:30 AM Subject: [Biofuel] That bogus antioxidant study http://v.mercola.com/blogs/public_blog/Can-Vitamins-Really-Kill-You--6508.aspx I just watched Dr Mercola who reported on the study that the media said proved that antioxidants do not lengthen life and may even kill you. He said that of the hundreds of studies that were chosen to be studied, they picked the most unfavorable ones, based on elderly patients who were in poor health. Also these people were only using synthetic anti-oxidants which are known to be a lot less effective than natural ones that the body easily recognizes and uses effectively. So, once again, the media has been a willing accomplice in softening up the public for the day (in 2009) when Big Pharma gets their most ardent wish fulfilled and all effective supplements are pulled of the shelves of U.S. health food stores. We must not allow this to happen. We can neutralize these untruths by writing to the editor, emailing the TV media news, and joining groups like Life Extension Foundation (LEF), the Organic Consumers Association (OCA), etc., and getting their newsletters. Writing your representative politicians could help too. Peace, D. Mindock ___ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http
Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me
Don't know, Joe. According to their website (www.localburger.com) they use coconut oil. I see there's a blog on their site too. You might ask. Mike - Original Message - From: Joe Street To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me How does local burger's oil titrate? I notice a correlation between titration value and the values of the restauranteur. MK DuPree wrote: Thanks for the response, Jason. Agreed. Obviously, however, Local Burger makes its' point of selling health consciousness (in more ways than just personal with food but also socially by supporting local economics) when some guy does eat there for all his meals and loses weight and becomes healthier overall, unlike doing same at McDonald's. For sure, eating locally grown, properly cared for meat and organic produce at home is ideal. But when you don't want to, it's great to have a Local Burger as a choice instead of McDonald's. The message a place like this sends to the community is also helpful in the fight against Big Agra, Big Pharma, etc. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Jason Katie To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me eating at a restaurant three times a day doesnt really make sense to me. seems that the benefits of localized food would be somewhat diminished when it is produced in large amounts like that, because even with the best quality stock, they are still on a time budget, and would have to at least skim corners, if not cut them entirely. i think good food is best prepared in the home, or at least in a place where there isnt such a rush to finish cooking. i dont mean what they are reporting is bad, just a little off kilter. - Original Message - From: MK DuPree To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me What do you feel is bizarre and wonder if there is a point, Jason? Mike - Original Message - From: Jason Katie To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me a little bizarre, but there IS a point- i guess... - Original Message - From: MK DuPree To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 12:12 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Localize Me Have you heard of the documentary Super Size Me? This guy eats nothing but McDonald's for a month. About dies. Here's a story from our local newspaper about a local restaurant that specializes in local buffalo and elk burgers and other local, organically grown produce doing a Localize Me promotion. I've plugged the List in my comments to this story, and I'm embarrassed, but not surprised, by many of the comments to this story. What can you expect from a town wherein resides an institution of higher learning, ie university. Mike DuPree http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/mar/06/freshfood_dieter_eats_his_way_health/?city_local Fresh-food dieter eats his way to health By Laura McHugh Tuesday, March 6, 2007 Daniel Fisher enjoys one of his favorite Local Burger dishes. I'm not really a salad guy, but I love that salad. I could eat it every day, says the former fast-food diner. For 30 days, Fisher gave up fast food and ate only at Local Burger, 714 Vt. Mary Dooley, nurse at First Med, 2323 Ridge Court, gives Daniel Fisher some good news Monday. In addition to his blood pressure decreasing, Fisher's weight and cholesterol levels have also dropped significantly. Thirty days of fresh food can do a body good. At least, that's what worked for 29-year-old Daniel Fisher. On Jan. 25, the self-proclaimed fast-food junkie quit his habit, replacing chain restaurants with Lawrence's Local Burger. The downtown restaurant specializes in locally grown, organic meats and produce. I've lost 23 or 24 pounds, and I can feel it. I feel great, Fisher said. I have a lot more energy than I used to. Local Burger's owner, Hilary Brown, recruited Fisher for the project, which she calls Localize Me, a play on Super Size Me, a movie in which the filmmaker eats only McDonald's fast food for a month. He was wonderful about sticking to the program and just being committed to this journey, Brown said. That journey was to eat only Local Burger, three meals a day, for an entire month. At first, Fisher worried the healthy fare would not satisfy his super-sized appetite. I thought I was going to starve to death eating little tiny portions
Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me
LOL...I think, which means, therefore, I probably am not. LOL Anyway, I wonder how you might classify my comments on the webpage to the story. Nonetheless, thanks, Chip, for the debate lesson and google search. You would love the video Thank You For Smoking. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Chip Mefford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me MK DuPree wrote: Have you heard of the documentary Super Size Me? This guy eats nothing but McDonald's for a month. About dies. Here's a story from our local newspaper about a local restaurant that specializes in local buffalo and elk burgers and other local, organically grown produce doing a Localize Me promotion. I've plugged the List in my comments to this story, and I'm embarrassed, but not surprised, by many of the comments to this story. SNIP. It's an interesting read, those comments. Now, here's an exercise in debate 101; How many of the following logical fallacies can you spot in the comments? -- argumentum ad logicam (argument from fallacy) in argument form; if A then B A is false, therefore B is false. To wit; P(rotagonist) I am a man. I drive a car, that means I am a man, because men drive cars A(ntagonist) My sister drives a car, and she is not a man. Therefore you are not a man Affirming the consequent If A, then B B therefore A (really common on right wing talk radio) If Alice were a real communist, Alice wouldn't own any real property Alice doesn't own any real property Therefore, Alice is a communist - Straw man (really really common in nearly all political debates) P(rotagonist) I think global warming is a 'bad-thing' A(ntagonist) Living in the stone age in no picnic The antagonist has implied that the protagonist advocates giving up on all technology, neatly side-stepping all debate about what efforts can be made to address the actual issue. --- argument by authority Bob makes statement B Bob is a noted authority Therefore statement B is true. (I see this all the time, everywhere, this mail list, and pretty much in any and all debates) Bob can makde statement B, and this statement may be true or false. This is an expressed 'factual claim'. However, the conclusion that statement B is true, based on Bob's authority, is only implied. Therefore logically, it doesn't stand. - And the converse, (my personal favorite, the base of our last long thread here on the mailing list) argumentum ad hominem (argument against the man) Christie makes statement C; There is something about Christie folks don't like, Therefore statement C is false. This can go on and on. And it feeds lots and lots of other logical fallacies. Dave claims that polychorinated biphenols found in our aquifer are bad. Dave is a hippy Hippies don't have jobs Therefore anyone claiming pcbs are bad is trying to take our jobs. Pretty much anything you hear from news commentators here in the US follows this (lack of) logic. --- Google logical fallacy sometime. It's fun and educational! ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me
Hi Kirk...no doubt about it our food supply, ie our bodies, are under intense attack through various means as Keith and others here continually post stories as to how. Maybe it's time for a Local Burger in your town. Not necessarily suggesting you personally do this, but maybe you know folks who have the wherewithall to do so. These types of establishments not only fulfill a growing need, but can also serve as focal points for further educating the public as to the onslaught of Big Agra, Big Pharma, etc, and the need to buy local and elect officials who will promote the means to put the skids to the advances of Big. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me Wish that was in my town instead of McDonalds. 23 pounds in a month is amazing as well. We are obese as a nation because of the high glycemic diet we eat. Eating good food would be sane behaviour. Kirk Jason Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a little bizarre, but there IS a point- i guess... - Original Message - From: MK DuPree To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 12:12 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Localize Me Have you heard of the documentary Super Size Me? This guy eats nothing but McDonald's for a month. About dies. Here's a story from our local newspaper about a local restaurant that specializes in local buffalo and elk burgers and other local, organically grown produce doing a Localize Me promotion. I've plugged the List in my comments to this story, and I'm embarrassed, but not surprised, by many of the comments to this story. What can you expect from a town wherein resides an institution of higher learning, ie university. Mike DuPree http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/mar/06/freshfood_dieter_eats_his_way_health/?city_local Fresh-food dieter eats his way to health By Laura McHugh Tuesday, March 6, 2007 Daniel Fisher enjoys one of his favorite Local Burger dishes. I'm not really a salad guy, but I love that salad. I could eat it every day, says the former fast-food diner. For 30 days, Fisher gave up fast food and ate only at Local Burger, 714 Vt. Mary Dooley, nurse at First Med, 2323 Ridge Court, gives Daniel Fisher some good news Monday. In addition to his blood pressure decreasing, Fisher's weight and cholesterol levels have also dropped significantly. Thirty days of fresh food can do a body good. At least, that's what worked for 29-year-old Daniel Fisher. On Jan. 25, the self-proclaimed fast-food junkie quit his habit, replacing chain restaurants with Lawrence's Local Burger. The downtown restaurant specializes in locally grown, organic meats and produce. I've lost 23 or 24 pounds, and I can feel it. I feel great, Fisher said. I have a lot more energy than I used to. Local Burger's owner, Hilary Brown, recruited Fisher for the project, which she calls Localize Me, a play on Super Size Me, a movie in which the filmmaker eats only McDonald's fast food for a month. He was wonderful about sticking to the program and just being committed to this journey, Brown said. That journey was to eat only Local Burger, three meals a day, for an entire month. At first, Fisher worried the healthy fare would not satisfy his super-sized appetite. I thought I was going to starve to death eating little tiny portions, but I had a lot of food to eat, Fisher said. Brown taught him not to eat less, but better. I think it's time for people to be aware of what they're eating, Brown said. It doesn't have to taste bad to be healthy, and it doesn't have to be fat-free to be healthy. When Fisher went in for his final lab results Monday, his physician was surprised by the results. Not only had Fisher's weight dropped from 295 to 272 pounds, but his cholesterol level plummeted from 285 to 166. I couldn't imagine that someone could change their diet and in 30 days could drop their cholesterol that much, Dr. David Dunlap said. In addition, Fisher's blood pressure, heart rate and blood sugar levels decreased. I guess I just want people to know you can change the quality of the food you're eating, and that you can change your health dramatically in a very short amount of time, Brown said. But Fisher isn't ready to call it quits just yet. He hopes to get down to 200 pounds. Because he didn't cheat during the first 30 days, he knows he has the willpower to do it. To keep him on track, Brown offered him 50 percent off her menu prices until he reaches that goal. We've taken the first steps. I just have to keep it going, he said. -- ___ Biofuel mailing
Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me
What do you feel is bizarre and wonder if there is a point, Jason? Mike - Original Message - From: Jason Katie To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me a little bizarre, but there IS a point- i guess... - Original Message - From: MK DuPree To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 12:12 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Localize Me Have you heard of the documentary Super Size Me? This guy eats nothing but McDonald's for a month. About dies. Here's a story from our local newspaper about a local restaurant that specializes in local buffalo and elk burgers and other local, organically grown produce doing a Localize Me promotion. I've plugged the List in my comments to this story, and I'm embarrassed, but not surprised, by many of the comments to this story. What can you expect from a town wherein resides an institution of higher learning, ie university. Mike DuPree http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/mar/06/freshfood_dieter_eats_his_way_health/?city_local Fresh-food dieter eats his way to health By Laura McHugh Tuesday, March 6, 2007 Daniel Fisher enjoys one of his favorite Local Burger dishes. I'm not really a salad guy, but I love that salad. I could eat it every day, says the former fast-food diner. For 30 days, Fisher gave up fast food and ate only at Local Burger, 714 Vt. Mary Dooley, nurse at First Med, 2323 Ridge Court, gives Daniel Fisher some good news Monday. In addition to his blood pressure decreasing, Fisher's weight and cholesterol levels have also dropped significantly. Thirty days of fresh food can do a body good. At least, that's what worked for 29-year-old Daniel Fisher. On Jan. 25, the self-proclaimed fast-food junkie quit his habit, replacing chain restaurants with Lawrence's Local Burger. The downtown restaurant specializes in locally grown, organic meats and produce. I've lost 23 or 24 pounds, and I can feel it. I feel great, Fisher said. I have a lot more energy than I used to. Local Burger's owner, Hilary Brown, recruited Fisher for the project, which she calls Localize Me, a play on Super Size Me, a movie in which the filmmaker eats only McDonald's fast food for a month. He was wonderful about sticking to the program and just being committed to this journey, Brown said. That journey was to eat only Local Burger, three meals a day, for an entire month. At first, Fisher worried the healthy fare would not satisfy his super-sized appetite. I thought I was going to starve to death eating little tiny portions, but I had a lot of food to eat, Fisher said. Brown taught him not to eat less, but better. I think it's time for people to be aware of what they're eating, Brown said. It doesn't have to taste bad to be healthy, and it doesn't have to be fat-free to be healthy. When Fisher went in for his final lab results Monday, his physician was surprised by the results. Not only had Fisher's weight dropped from 295 to 272 pounds, but his cholesterol level plummeted from 285 to 166. I couldn't imagine that someone could change their diet and in 30 days could drop their cholesterol that much, Dr. David Dunlap said. In addition, Fisher's blood pressure, heart rate and blood sugar levels decreased. I guess I just want people to know you can change the quality of the food you're eating, and that you can change your health dramatically in a very short amount of time, Brown said. But Fisher isn't ready to call it quits just yet. He hopes to get down to 200 pounds. Because he didn't cheat during the first 30 days, he knows he has the willpower to do it. To keep him on track, Brown offered him 50 percent off her menu prices until he reaches that goal. We've taken the first steps. I just have to keep it going, he said. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.431 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/711 - Release Date: 3/5/2007 9:41 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.431 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/713 - Release Date: 3/7/2007 9:24 AM
Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me
Thanks for the response, Jason. Agreed. Obviously, however, Local Burger makes its' point of selling health consciousness (in more ways than just personal with food but also socially by supporting local economics) when some guy does eat there for all his meals and loses weight and becomes healthier overall, unlike doing same at McDonald's. For sure, eating locally grown, properly cared for meat and organic produce at home is ideal. But when you don't want to, it's great to have a Local Burger as a choice instead of McDonald's. The message a place like this sends to the community is also helpful in the fight against Big Agra, Big Pharma, etc. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Jason Katie To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me eating at a restaurant three times a day doesnt really make sense to me. seems that the benefits of localized food would be somewhat diminished when it is produced in large amounts like that, because even with the best quality stock, they are still on a time budget, and would have to at least skim corners, if not cut them entirely. i think good food is best prepared in the home, or at least in a place where there isnt such a rush to finish cooking. i dont mean what they are reporting is bad, just a little off kilter. - Original Message - From: MK DuPree To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me What do you feel is bizarre and wonder if there is a point, Jason? Mike - Original Message - From: Jason Katie To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me a little bizarre, but there IS a point- i guess... - Original Message - From: MK DuPree To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 12:12 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Localize Me Have you heard of the documentary Super Size Me? This guy eats nothing but McDonald's for a month. About dies. Here's a story from our local newspaper about a local restaurant that specializes in local buffalo and elk burgers and other local, organically grown produce doing a Localize Me promotion. I've plugged the List in my comments to this story, and I'm embarrassed, but not surprised, by many of the comments to this story. What can you expect from a town wherein resides an institution of higher learning, ie university. Mike DuPree http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/mar/06/freshfood_dieter_eats_his_way_health/?city_local Fresh-food dieter eats his way to health By Laura McHugh Tuesday, March 6, 2007 Daniel Fisher enjoys one of his favorite Local Burger dishes. I'm not really a salad guy, but I love that salad. I could eat it every day, says the former fast-food diner. For 30 days, Fisher gave up fast food and ate only at Local Burger, 714 Vt. Mary Dooley, nurse at First Med, 2323 Ridge Court, gives Daniel Fisher some good news Monday. In addition to his blood pressure decreasing, Fisher's weight and cholesterol levels have also dropped significantly. Thirty days of fresh food can do a body good. At least, that's what worked for 29-year-old Daniel Fisher. On Jan. 25, the self-proclaimed fast-food junkie quit his habit, replacing chain restaurants with Lawrence's Local Burger. The downtown restaurant specializes in locally grown, organic meats and produce. I've lost 23 or 24 pounds, and I can feel it. I feel great, Fisher said. I have a lot more energy than I used to. Local Burger's owner, Hilary Brown, recruited Fisher for the project, which she calls Localize Me, a play on Super Size Me, a movie in which the filmmaker eats only McDonald's fast food for a month. He was wonderful about sticking to the program and just being committed to this journey, Brown said. That journey was to eat only Local Burger, three meals a day, for an entire month. At first, Fisher worried the healthy fare would not satisfy his super-sized appetite. I thought I was going to starve to death eating little tiny portions, but I had a lot of food to eat, Fisher said. Brown taught him not to eat less, but better. I think it's time for people to be aware of what they're eating, Brown said. It doesn't have to taste bad to be healthy, and it doesn't have to be fat-free to be healthy. When Fisher went in for his final lab results Monday, his physician was surprised by the results. Not only had Fisher's weight dropped from 295 to 272 pounds, but his cholesterol level plummeted from 285 to 166. I couldn't imagine that someone could change their diet and in 30 days could drop their cholesterol that much, Dr
Re: [Biofuel] That bogus antioxidant study
Hi D...Do you know the law that is compelling food supplements to be removed from health food store shelves in 2009? Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: D. Mindock To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 3:30 AM Subject: [Biofuel] That bogus antioxidant study http://v.mercola.com/blogs/public_blog/Can-Vitamins-Really-Kill-You--6508.aspx I just watched Dr Mercola who reported on the study that the media said proved that antioxidants do not lengthen life and may even kill you. He said that of the hundreds of studies that were chosen to be studied, they picked the most unfavorable ones, based on elderly patients who were in poor health. Also these people were only using synthetic anti-oxidants which are known to be a lot less effective than natural ones that the body easily recognizes and uses effectively. So, once again, the media has been a willing accomplice in softening up the public for the day (in 2009) when Big Pharma gets their most ardent wish fulfilled and all effective supplements are pulled of the shelves of U.S. health food stores. We must not allow this to happen. We can neutralize these untruths by writing to the editor, emailing the TV media news, and joining groups like Life Extension Foundation (LEF), the Organic Consumers Association (OCA), etc., and getting their newsletters. Writing your representative politicians could help too. Peace, D. Mindock -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Localize Me
Have you heard of the documentary Super Size Me? This guy eats nothing but McDonald's for a month. About dies. Here's a story from our local newspaper about a local restaurant that specializes in local buffalo and elk burgers and other local, organically grown produce doing a Localize Me promotion. I've plugged the List in my comments to this story, and I'm embarrassed, but not surprised, by many of the comments to this story. What can you expect from a town wherein resides an institution of higher learning, ie university. Mike DuPree http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/mar/06/freshfood_dieter_eats_his_way_health/?city_local Fresh-food dieter eats his way to health By Laura McHugh Tuesday, March 6, 2007 Daniel Fisher enjoys one of his favorite Local Burger dishes. I'm not really a salad guy, but I love that salad. I could eat it every day, says the former fast-food diner. For 30 days, Fisher gave up fast food and ate only at Local Burger, 714 Vt. Mary Dooley, nurse at First Med, 2323 Ridge Court, gives Daniel Fisher some good news Monday. In addition to his blood pressure decreasing, Fisher's weight and cholesterol levels have also dropped significantly. Thirty days of fresh food can do a body good. At least, that's what worked for 29-year-old Daniel Fisher. On Jan. 25, the self-proclaimed fast-food junkie quit his habit, replacing chain restaurants with Lawrence's Local Burger. The downtown restaurant specializes in locally grown, organic meats and produce. I've lost 23 or 24 pounds, and I can feel it. I feel great, Fisher said. I have a lot more energy than I used to. Local Burger's owner, Hilary Brown, recruited Fisher for the project, which she calls Localize Me, a play on Super Size Me, a movie in which the filmmaker eats only McDonald's fast food for a month. He was wonderful about sticking to the program and just being committed to this journey, Brown said. That journey was to eat only Local Burger, three meals a day, for an entire month. At first, Fisher worried the healthy fare would not satisfy his super-sized appetite. I thought I was going to starve to death eating little tiny portions, but I had a lot of food to eat, Fisher said. Brown taught him not to eat less, but better. I think it's time for people to be aware of what they're eating, Brown said. It doesn't have to taste bad to be healthy, and it doesn't have to be fat-free to be healthy. When Fisher went in for his final lab results Monday, his physician was surprised by the results. Not only had Fisher's weight dropped from 295 to 272 pounds, but his cholesterol level plummeted from 285 to 166. I couldn't imagine that someone could change their diet and in 30 days could drop their cholesterol that much, Dr. David Dunlap said. In addition, Fisher's blood pressure, heart rate and blood sugar levels decreased. I guess I just want people to know you can change the quality of the food you're eating, and that you can change your health dramatically in a very short amount of time, Brown said. But Fisher isn't ready to call it quits just yet. He hopes to get down to 200 pounds. Because he didn't cheat during the first 30 days, he knows he has the willpower to do it. To keep him on track, Brown offered him 50 percent off her menu prices until he reaches that goal. We've taken the first steps. I just have to keep it going, he said. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] A quote for our time from another time
Hi Dawie...thanks for this apology, but not necessary, and, as I've stated, I understand you were not intending to divert attention from the issue of medical freedom, which this apology also does. At the risk of seeming to intend to be ornery and cantankerous, but actually intending to have you put on your thinking hat, I'm still asking you how you think technological freedom can enhance medical freedom. Mike - Original Message - From: Dawie Coetzee To: Biofuels Mailing List Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:38 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] A quote for our time from another time Sorry Mike, really not my intention. I suppose we all have our areas of intense concern, and perforce we need to let other topics slide however much we respect the efforts of those dealing with them. And I suppose we are all on the perpetual lookout for opportunities to push our pet issues (you are welcome to pursue any I inadvertently happen to give you!) My apologies. -Dawie - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, 1 March, 2007 11:59:03 AM Subject: Biofuel Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1 From: MK DuPree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 02:22:38 -0600 Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_0028_01C75BA8.7B474490 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] A quote for our time from another time Message: 7 That's all well and good, Dawie, but, imo, your broadening the focus of the post averts attention from the point of the post that our medical freedom is under intense fire thereby harming the post by changing the subject. I know this isn't your intent, but as they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. How does technological freedom enhance our medical freedom? Help us out here and show us how technological freedom enhances medical freedom. Thanks. Mike DuPre -- New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. -- What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. Take the quiz at the Yahoo! Mail Championship. -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] A quote for our time from another time
That's all well and good, Dawie, but, imo, your broadening the focus of the post averts attention from the point of the post that our medical freedom is under intense fire thereby harming the post by changing the subject. I know this isn't your intent, but as they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. How does technological freedom enhance our medical freedom? Help us out here and show us how technological freedom enhances medical freedom. Thanks. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Dawie Coetzee To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 1:21 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] A quote for our time from another time I would broaden that to technological freedom. With apologies: Unless we put technological freedom into the Constitution, the time will come when manufacture will organize into an undercover dictatorship to restrict the art of making to one class of men and deny equal privileges to others: ... Isn't that exactly what has happened? -D - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, 28 February, 2007 2:53:23 PM Subject: Biofuel Digest, Vol 22, Issue 94 From: D. Mindock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 02:30:22 -0600 Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_0324_01C75AE0.65308040 Subject: [Biofuel] A quote for our time from another time Message: 4 Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution, the time will come when medicine will organize into an undercover dictatorship to restrict the art of healing to one class of men and deny equal privileges to others: The Constitution of this Republic should make a special privilege for medical freedom as well as religious freedom. - Dr. Benjamin Rush, signer of the Declaration of Independence I think what we have here in the USA is deadly medicine for all thanks to the FDA, the AMA, and Big Pharma along with a very cooperative Congress. Medicine here seems to be for population culling, profiteering, and control. D. Mindock -- All New Yahoo! Mail - Tired of unwanted email come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] A quote for our time from another time
No argument, Joe, so how does technical freedom enhance medical freedom? Technical freedom could easily mean the freedom to create genetically modified seed, food, people. But then, same could be said for medical freedom. Perhaps the whole business of freedom is a ruse. Thanks, D, for leading us into this quagmire of despair and unrelenting bullshit...:P - Original Message - From: Joe Street To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] A quote for our time from another time Yes this is effectively what is happening, but on the other hand the techie types that turn the wheels in the high tech arena are also people with a personal life and there are plenty of them that don't just twiddle their thumbs at home. This is why there is such a plethora of do it yerself information on the web. We have been reading lately about plans to restrict, control, and censor the flow of information on the web and obviously it is to serve the denial of privelige you refer to but I believe it is impossible now. The net has already taken on a life of it's own so it will morph as necessary to adapt to the situation and preserve the freedom it needs. Joe MK DuPree wrote: That's all well and good, Dawie, but, imo, your broadening the focus of the post averts attention from the point of the post that our medical freedom is under intense fire thereby harming the post by changing the subject. I know this isn't your intent, but as they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. How does technological freedom enhance our medical freedom? Help us out here and show us how technological freedom enhances medical freedom. Thanks. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Dawie Coetzee To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 1:21 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] A quote for our time from another time I would broaden that to technological freedom. With apologies: Unless we put technological freedom into the Constitution, the time will come when manufacture will organize into an undercover dictatorship to restrict the art of making to one class of men and deny equal privileges to others: ... Isn't that exactly what has happened? -D - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, 28 February, 2007 2:53:23 PM Subject: Biofuel Digest, Vol 22, Issue 94 From: D. Mindock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 02:30:22 -0600 Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_0324_01C75AE0.65308040 Subject: [Biofuel] A quote for our time from another time Message: 4 Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution, the time will come when medicine will organize into an undercover dictatorship to restrict the art of healing to one class of men and deny equal privileges to others: The Constitution of this Republic should make a special privilege for medical freedom as well as religious freedom. - Dr. Benjamin Rush, signer of the Declaration of Independence I think what we have here in the USA is deadly medicine for all thanks to the FDA, the AMA, and Big Pharma along with a very cooperative Congress. Medicine here seems to be for population culling, profiteering, and control. D. Mindock -- All New Yahoo! Mail - Tired of unwanted email come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Re: [Biofuel] A quote for our time from another time
D...you first alerted the List to the Real ID Act in connection with Rife enthusiasts. I'm convinced the purposes go far beyond Rife concerns as the Rush quote and you have indicated. Looks like it's way past time for Rush's concern to be implemented. The last amendment to the U.S. Constitution lowered the voting age to 18 out of guilt for conscripting our youth who could not vote at the time to die and be forever damaged in Vietnam. Seems a similar argument could be used in regards to medical freedom, except that the present conscription is more insidious. Folks don't even know they are being conscripted. Present them with the facts and they think you're crazy. Truly, The Invasion of the Body Snatchers has become more real than the movie. U.S. Citizens: States--Reject Real ID; Congress--Repeal Real ID. If you will not act, you will be acted upon. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: D. Mindock To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 2:30 AM Subject: [Biofuel] A quote for our time from another time Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution, the time will come when medicine will organize into an undercover dictatorship to restrict the art of healing to one class of men and deny equal privileges to others: The Constitution of this Republic should make a special privilege for medical freedom as well as religious freedom. - Dr. Benjamin Rush, signer of the Declaration of Independence I think what we have here in the USA is deadly medicine for all thanks to the FDA, the AMA, and Big Pharma along with a very cooperative Congress. Medicine here seems to be for population culling, profiteering, and control. D. Mindock -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Association of American Physicians and Surgeons
This was recently posted on Dr. Mercola's website. It is a two part article by Jane M. Orient, MD, executive director of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons. This was her banquet address to AAPS 43rd Annual Meeting, Oct. 24, 1986. I agree with the article's message, but know nothing about this Association. Aside from how anyone feels about Mercola or that the address was given to their meeting in Bermuda, can anyone on the List expose these folks for anything but honorable and on the path toward health care that is truly in the best interests of the patient? Thanks for your help. Mike DuPree http://www.mercola.com/2004/jul/7/hippocrates_constitution.htm___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Germans take pride in local money
Awesome...I sense something perversely wrong with this picture from an Elitist's point of view. Who on the List in Germany can inform us further along these lines, especially if it is allowed to flourish? I know it isn't an ultimate answer, that local production is still the key to local self-reliance and sustainability, but what a start!!! Hotfreakindamn...or am I missing something and too caught up in irrational exuberance??? Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: D. Mindock To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:47 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Germans take pride in local money http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6333063.stm Germans take pride in local money By Tristana Moore BBC News, Magdeburg, Germany The next time you venture out for lunch in Magdeburg, check what kind of loose change you have in your wallet. Like any other city in Germany, the normal currency here is the euro. But bizarrely, they also have another currency in circulation: the Urstromtaler . Before you doubt its existence, it is not Monopoly money - it is very real. At a jewellery shop in the city centre, Gerfried Kliems explained how people use the regional currency. It's quite simple, he said. The money you spend stays in the region. When I accept Urstromtaler in my shop, I then have to see how I can spend the local banknotes. You get to know everyone who's participating in this project, and at the end of the day, you have a good feeling about life. More than 200 businesses are using the regional currency, including shops, bakeries, florists, restaurants. There is even a cinema which accepts Urstromtaler. 'Local boost' Frank Jansky, a lawyer, launched the regional currency in Magdeburg. We are fostering links with businesses in the whole region and through the contacts that we develop, we are supporting the domestic German market, he said. All the businesses have signed contracts, and it's official. We have our own banknotes and we have an issuing office in the city centre. At the Urstromtaler central bank in Magdeburg, which is no larger than a small office, the banknotes are issued at a rate of 1:1 against the euro. The banknotes have a time limit and lose value after a certain date, so people are encouraged to spend their money quickly. Campaigners argue that the currency can help boost the local economy. The unemployment rate in Magdeburg is about 20%, and like other areas in the former communist east, many young people have left to look for work elsewhere. Dilapidated, run-down houses and old factories still dot the landscape, even though billions of euros' worth of subsidies have poured into the east since the fall of communism. Everyone who uses the regional currency develops a social network. People get to know each other, said Joerg Dahlke. It's also good for the environment, as you are not buying goods from big supermarket chains who import their goods. Instead you are buying products from regional producers, he said. The Bundesbank is keeping an eye on what we are doing - regional currencies are still in a legal grey area Frank Jansky It is easy to dismiss the regional currency as a gimmick, but supporters take it very seriously. We are disillusioned with the euro, as it doesn't bring many benefits to the local community, said Joerg Dahlke. But at the same time, we don't want to get rid of the euro completely. Our regional currency runs in parallel to the euro. Of course, we still need the euro for big purchases, he explained. Residents can choose to pay one-third of their purchase in the local currency, and the rest in euros, or sometimes they can pay for their purchase entirely in Urstromtaler. The phenomenon is not limited to the state of Saxony-Anhalt. 'Social money' Regional currencies have sprung up all over Germany. According to Professor Gerhard Roesl, author of a report commissioned by the Bundesbank, there are at least 16 regional currencies in Germany. The regional currencies are not really a threat to the Bundesbank, although technically they are illegal and could pose a problem. The Bundesbank tolerates the local currencies, which are regarded as a kind of 'social money', said Mr Roesl. Frank Jansky and representatives of other regional currency projects are lobbying the federal government to introduce a change in the law. The Bundesbank is keeping an eye on what we are doing. Regional currencies are still in a legal grey area. But there are other comparable financial schemes, like 'miles and more', which also pose a challenge to the status quo, said Mr Jansky. We are supporting our regional economy and culture, which will benefit future generations. And in case anyone thinks it's an old-fashioned system,
Re: [Biofuel] Recent Moore Correspondence
Thank you, Keith. What I'm going through is not very encouraging for other folks who might want to write their representatives, but I hope somehow folks will persist anyway, while they still have a choice to do so. I also want to extend my help to anyone in the U.S. who understands the real meaning of Real ID and wants help working to get it rejected in their State and ultimately repealed in Congress. You may write to me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike DuPree PS Keith, sorry to be a doofus, but my latin sucks...illegitimi non carborundum...il and non, double negatives? if so--legitimate abbrasive? if so...thank you. What was that Canned Heat line, tired of gettin dogged around? These representatives need--at least--some abbrasives. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Recent Moore Correspondence Good on you Mike, keep at 'em! Illegitimi non carborundum. Regards Keith Hi folks...I'm sending along my most recent correspondence to my U.S. House Rep, Dennis Moore. My State Senator (Francisco) and State House Rep (Davis) also dance around this language. Why? Dennis voted against the original version of Real ID, HR418, apparently along party lines, which is interesting, considering the stereotyped values of the Republican (less gov't) and Democratic (more gov't) parties. HR 418 was a stand alone bill, so you would think it would have been voted down in the House (by the Repubs, seeing more gov't), but it passed, as I've said, mostly along party lines. Mike PS As a side note, if you ever decide to write your Reps using the email service that is part of their websites, copy your email to a Word doc before submitting if you want a copy, unless of course there is provision for you to receive a copy of what you send, which I suspect there usually is not. Also, do same with any notes attached before forwarding to other email addresses. The websites make no provision for screwing up and being able to back up to correct your mistake; you just simply lose whatever you were trying to send and to whomever you were trying to send it. Surely all these hoops are because we are in the midst of basketball season, correct??? Otherwise, contacting our Reps is utterly user-friendly, correct Excuse me while I go puke. Dear Congressman Moore, Thank you for recent correspondence regarding PL109-13, the Real ID Act. From the beginning of my correspondence with your office expressing my concerns regarding Real ID, I have focused upon section 201(3), specifically the wording any other purposes that the Secretary [of Homeland Security] shall determine. This language alone, I believe, is grounds for Repeal. And yet, your office, for some reason, will not address this issue. Why? The closest your office has come to addressing it, which is no address at all, is on page 2 of February 15 correspondence, next to last paragraph. This paragraph merely reiterates what I already know reading PL109-13. So, to date, in answer to my concerns and questions regarding the open-ended provision of the official purpose of Real ID, I have received from your office: 1) the CRS Report to Congress: Immigration: Analysis of Major Provisions of the REAL ID Act of 2005, which misses completely an analysis of THE major provision of Real ID--the open-ended provision of the official purpose; 2) a copy of S.4117 and present non-action regarding S.4117, which I did NOT request, as stated on the note attached to this copy; and 3) the correspondence of February 15, which is basically a restatement of PL109-13. Will your office please focus upon section 201(3) of P.L. 109-13 and either: 1) tell me what steps you are taking to either: a) revise this language to specific purposes; or b) strike the language completely (ie Repeal Real ID and help Senator Akaka understand that he has no business waiting for regulations to come from the Secretary of Homeland Security, that he should go ahead with his promotion of S.4117 if for no other reason than the open-ended provision of section 201[3]); OR 2) tell me how the wording of section 201(3)can not be open-ended and why I have no need to be concerned? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined
[Biofuel] Recent Moore Correspondence
Hi folks...I'm sending along my most recent correspondence to my U.S. House Rep, Dennis Moore. My State Senator (Francisco) and State House Rep (Davis) also dance around this language. Why? Dennis voted against the original version of Real ID, HR418, apparently along party lines, which is interesting, considering the stereotyped values of the Republican (less gov't) and Democratic (more gov't) parties. HR 418 was a stand alone bill, so you would think it would have been voted down in the House (by the Repubs, seeing more gov't), but it passed, as I've said, mostly along party lines. Mike PS As a side note, if you ever decide to write your Reps using the email service that is part of their websites, copy your email to a Word doc before submitting if you want a copy, unless of course there is provision for you to receive a copy of what you send, which I suspect there usually is not. Also, do same with any notes attached before forwarding to other email addresses. The websites make no provision for screwing up and being able to back up to correct your mistake; you just simply lose whatever you were trying to send and to whomever you were trying to send it. Surely all these hoops are because we are in the midst of basketball season, correct??? Otherwise, contacting our Reps is utterly user-friendly, correct Excuse me while I go puke. Dear Congressman Moore, Thank you for recent correspondence regarding PL109-13, the Real ID Act. From the beginning of my correspondence with your office expressing my concerns regarding Real ID, I have focused upon section 201(3), specifically the wording any other purposes that the Secretary [of Homeland Security] shall determine. This language alone, I believe, is grounds for Repeal. And yet, your office, for some reason, will not address this issue. Why? The closest your office has come to addressing it, which is no address at all, is on page 2 of February 15 correspondence, next to last paragraph. This paragraph merely reiterates what I already know reading PL109-13. So, to date, in answer to my concerns and questions regarding the open-ended provision of the official purpose of Real ID, I have received from your office: 1) the CRS Report to Congress: Immigration: Analysis of Major Provisions of the REAL ID Act of 2005, which misses completely an analysis of THE major provision of Real ID--the open-ended provision of the official purpose; 2) a copy of S.4117 and present non-action regarding S.4117, which I did NOT request, as stated on the note attached to this copy; and 3) the correspondence of February 15, which is basically a restatement of PL109-13. Will your office please focus upon section 201(3) of P.L. 109-13 and either: 1) tell me what steps you are taking to either: a) revise this language to specific purposes; or b) strike the language completely (ie Repeal Real ID and help Senator Akaka understand that he has no business waiting for regulations to come from the Secretary of Homeland Security, that he should go ahead with his promotion of S.4117 if for no other reason than the open-ended provision of section 201[3]); OR 2) tell me how the wording of section 201(3)can not be open-ended and why I have no need to be concerned? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Human Chip Implantation *# - e-mail broadcasting
Thank you Dawee and Keith...I'm still confused, however. I checked the link on your first post, Keith, regarding this issue and in the archives only the post appears. So that's great. As I mentioned in my post to Wendell, I still don't understand what happened since I didn't use the CC field. To be sure in the future, I'll post to the biofuels list separately from my Concerned Citizens list. Again, thanks for everyone's help. Mike - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 3:54 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Human Chip Implantation *# - e-mail broadcasting Mike Use the BCC (Blind Carbon Copy) function for all but the first name-D Mailman doesn't like that either: Message has implicit destination it says, and stops it pending authorisation. But that's okay, just as long as nobody minds a bit of waiting. With BCC the other recipients are hidden, I don't know if they can be extracted anyway by people who know how. Either way the addresses can't be gleaned from the list's archives. Best Keith From: MK DuPree [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 23:43:42 -0600 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Human Chip Implantation *# Thanks Wendell...I did not use the CC field on this. Everything was in the To field. I've done this before without all email addresses showing, so not sure why they appeared this time. Any suggestions from you or anyone on the List as to how I broadcast to a bunch of folks showing only a one name? I keep looking through Help on my email tool bar, but don't seem to be able to find what I'm looking for. Thanks. Mike ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] The science of evil and its use for political purposes
Most of our political evils may be traced to our commercial ones. -- James Madison But then our commercial ones come from...? I'm willing to accept that, at least, as the reviewed author states, from lack of conscious controls of a scientific, individual, and societal nature, (whereby) we can counteract evil as effectively as by means of persistent calls to respect moral values. But I say at least, because the biggie question, it seems to me, is how do you get someone who clings tenaciously to a belief in heaven or hell for eternity to let go long enough to be able to exercise these conscious controls. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 3:04 PM Subject: [Biofuel] The science of evil and its use for political purposes http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17127.htm The science of evil and its use for political purposes By Carolyn Baker EVIL: 1 a: morally reprehensible : sinful, wicked an evil impulse b: arising from actual or imputed bad character or conduct a person of evil reputation2 a archaic : inferior b: causing discomfort or repulsion : offensive an evil odor c: disagreeable woke late and in an evil temper3 a: causing harm : pernicious the evil institution of slavery b: marked by misfortune : unlucky[Merriam-Webster Online] 02/19/07 ICH -- -- Canada's Red Pill press has recently published psychologist Andrew M. Lobaczewski's book Political Ponerology (Red Pill Press, Canada, 1998 and 2006)in which the author expounds on his observations that during his years of clinical work in Poland, he noticed a high correlation between acts that most people would label as evil and various pathologies. The most apt diagnostic labeling of these individuals in modern psychological jargon would be sociopathic, the most important characteristic of which is the seeming absence of a conscience or empathy in relation to other living beings. Lobaczewski and some of his Eastern European colleagues working under Soviet rule decided to take this study to a higher level and researched how sociopathy was playing out in government, in business, and in other social groups. Political ponerology (originating from the Greek word for evil, poneros) is a science on the nature of evil adjusted for political purposes, which ultimately on a larger scale results in a pathocracy. The research indicates that sociopaths are found in all races, ethnicities, and creeds, and that no group is immune to them. Sociopaths constitute, according to the author, about 6 percent of the population of any given group. Red Pill's editor states that, Political Ponerology is a book that offers a horrifying glimpse into the structure underlying our governments, our biggest corporations, and even our system of law. After I read the book, a number of nagging questions about the policies and practices of government and corporate officials began to answer themselves in that Lobaczewski's analysis goes to the heart of why the United States government has become a criminal enterprise hell-bent on dominating the world and annihilating vast quantities of human beings globally and domestically. When I first began the book I was more than a little put off by Lobaczewski's European style of writing -- his wordiness and his succinctness-challenged approach. Nevertheless, as I kept reading, and I must admit, struggling with his sentences, I grew increasingly grateful for the book and the friend who gave it to me. As a result, a few of the author's fundamental concepts cry out to be shared, and this article is an attempt to do just that. Lobaczewski first points out that societies are the most vulnerable to evil during good times. During good times, he writes, people progressively lose sight of the need for profound reflection, introspection, knowledge of others, and an understanding of life's complicated laws. (P. 85) Certainly, in my lifetime, I have not witnessed an American society willing to reflect and wrestle with the complexities of existence since the Vietnam War. Although much of the protest and activism of the sixties was naively myopic, the tension and angst of the era drove a majority of individuals in the United States to look deeper within themselves than they otherwise might have. Following upon the heels of the war, of course, came Watergate, and further confirmation that governments always betray their own citizens and always lie about doing so. Then as the ME-generation seventies offered us the deceptions of peace and honest government, the groundwork for the current horrors domestically and internationally were being laid. America was war-weary, and smarting from the wounds of Watergate, acting out Lobaczewski's assertion that During good times, the search for truth becomes
[Biofuel] Human Chip Implantation
Connect the dots...I know you all thought I was whacked after sending the last email. Now read this. In fact, this story is just over two years old. The FDA approved this chip implantation less than a year before Real ID was passed. In fact, FDA approval was in October, 2004. Real ID was introduced in February, 2005. I hope the motives behind Real ID are beginning to make more sense. We're losing control of our food supply and health care to the pharmaceutical and food/seed companies (see genetically modified foods that need not be labeled, the National Animal Identification Act and mandatory vaccinations against disease that might come through sexual contact). Mike DuPree http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6237364/___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Human Chip Implantation *#
Thanks Wendell...I did not use the CC field on this. Everything was in the To field. I've done this before without all email addresses showing, so not sure why they appeared this time. Any suggestions from you or anyone on the List as to how I broadcast to a bunch of folks showing only a one name? I keep looking through Help on my email tool bar, but don't seem to be able to find what I'm looking for. Thanks. Mike - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Human Chip Implantation *# Dear M K, You do your friends a great disservice by using the TO and CC fields in your e-mail. Someone is probably harvesting their addresses as we speak. VERBUM SAPIENTIBUS SATIS EST Regards, Wendell From: MK DuPree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/02/20 Tue PM 05:06:34 CST To: Walt Kihm [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tom DuPree [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ted Infranca [EMAIL PROTECTED], Elayne [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve Cringan [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ryan Zug [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ray Mendoza [EMAIL PROTECTED], Priscilla Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED], Patricia Canty [EMAIL PROTECTED], Patricia Canty [EMAIL PROTECTED], MomDad [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mom [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Naegele [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael OConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED], Marla Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED], Larry Fitzgerald [EMAIL PROTECTED], Larry Bethel [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED], Karla [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Novosel [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Eye [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Eye [EMAIL PROTECTED], John DuPree [EMAIL PROTECTED], George A. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gen Hostak [EMAIL PROTECTED], Deb Taylor-Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED], Danny [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dad [EMAIL PROTECTED], Courtney O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Renick [EMAIL PROTECTED], Aunt Shirley [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ann O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jenny [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Moffitt [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dennis Eidson [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Naramore [EMAIL PROTECTED], biofuel@sustainablelists.org, Joel Kaczor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] Human Chip Implantation Connect the dots...I know you all thought I was whacked after sending the last email. Now read this. In fact, this story is just over two years old. The FDA approved this chip implantation less than a year before Real ID was passed. In fact, FDA approval was in October, 2004. Real ID was introduced in February, 2005. I hope the motives behind Real ID are beginning to make more sense. We're losing control of our food supply and health care to the pharmaceutical and food/seed companies (see genetically modified foods that need not be labeled, the National Animal Identification Act and mandatory vaccinations against disease that might come through sexual contact). Mike DuPree http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6237364/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Warnings Over Privacy of US Health Network...and Real ID
Connect the dots..once Real ID is implemented, we will have lost our legal basis for control over our medical records and ultimately our medical treatment. Chip implantation, here we come, Bush's personal electronic medical record, for which we have Hillary Clinton to thank too!!! From the article, The accountability office said doubts about privacy could slow the adoption and use of electronic medical records. Professor Rothstein offered a similar prediction, saying: 'If privacy protections are not built into the network, people will not trust it. They won't participate, or they will opt out if they are allowed to.' Key words could slow and if they are allowed to. Real ID will speed up adoption and use of medical records as it takes away from us our ability to opt out, unless we plan on trying to subvert the system and live underground. Lot of hassle comin that could be avoided by getting our States to Reject Real ID and ultimately our Federal Government to Repeal Real ID. As they say, pay me now or pay me later. The costs of paying now by hammering our representatives to Reject/Repeal Real ID will be much less than later when we lose control of what goes into our bodies, how they are treated, and by whom. Mike DuPree http://www.truthout.org:80/docs_2006/021907F.shtml___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Is the Deadly Crash of Our Civilization Inevitable?
Hey Fred...the statement to which you refer says nothing about what kind of earth the meek would inherit. In fact, the meek being the meek (ie enduring injury with patience and without resentment...deficient in spirit and courage...not violent or strong) are probably quite happy being screwed. IMHO, unless you have an ulterior motive to screwing the meek generally or maybe a particular meek, I say find another choir. Mike DuPree PS Earth First anyone - Original Message - From: Fred Oliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Is the Deadly Crash of Our Civilization Inevitable? screw the meek, they have had over 2000 years to do something and have not, doth quote the Onion From: John Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Is the Deadly Crash of Our Civilization Inevitable? Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:36:57 -0400 Amazing! It was fortold over two thousand years ago that The meek shall inherit the earth. Mankind and all higher life forms are on a collision course with extinsion. At the time of the last ice age when the sun eventually fails to put out enough energy to subtain life the only life left on earth will be single cell organism living in vents underneath frozen oceans. We are not talking about the problem or trying to find ways to avoid extinsion. At this point in time we have no way of avoiding extinsion. Maybe not in the near future and we still have time to change the inevitable but at this juncture in time one has to definately say that unless we work to finding a solution the deadly crash of our civilization is inevitable. Yours truly John Wilson *** Wilsonia Farm Kennel Preserve Goldens Ph-Fax (902)665-2386) Web: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/goldens/new.htm Pups: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/goldens/pup.htm Politics: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/goldens/elect.htm In Nova Scotia smoking permitted in designated areas only until 9:00 PM . After 9:00 it is okey to kill everyone. Not anymore! Smoke freedom day 6 th December 2006 ^ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Monkey Biz: Cancer-Causing Vaccines, Polio AIDS (Add Long Live the Internet and Net Neutrality)
Hi D and List...from the article: Furthermore, Nigerian officials became aware of internet reports suggesting the WHO vaccine might be contaminated with HIV (the AIDS virus) and other cancer-causing viruses. And this exchange between List member/administrator from another recent post Truth or Propaganda?: The propaganda machine is SO well oiled and widespread it's becoming nearly impossible to find truth in news reporting . . . But not entirely impossible. You have to use the Internet though, IMHO, use good news feeds and so on. The problem isn't so much that the news isn't available, it's that it's not on FoxTV and so many Americans are wilfully deaf to it anyway. But so many aren't, any longer, it must also be said. I ask: how important is the Internet and Net Neutrality? Ask folks whose lives are being saved by it and those whose eyes are being opened by it. Also from the article: The WHO, the world's leading international health and science agency, is mired in power politics. I commented to someone recently, and I think it's appropriate to mention it here that bigger is better when better is bigger. That's what the Internet appears to be providing, bigger better, as we watch the bigger institutions that have failed to provide better solutions for the real people they are supposed to serve dissolve according to the ineptness of their immoral agendas. So, long live the Internet and Net Neutrality...and to those in the USA, hammer your State Reps to REJECT REAL ID and your Federal Reps to REPEAL REAL ID. Don't take just any warmed over responses to your request to Reject/Repeal Repeal ID. Get them to commit. Let them know you have an email address book and you're using it. Let them know what you know and if you don't know, get the FACTS. As of this writing we in the USA are just 451 Days, 18 Hours, 12 Hours and counting (http://www.ncsl.org/realid/ ) from losing all touch with our senses, from becoming a mental, if not physical, lipofat farm to Big Biz. Yeah, I'll be honest, my motivations are purely selfish. I don't want to have to become a blubbering idiot, sometimes screaming, I TOLD YOU SO Good night and Good luck. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: D. Mindock To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 5:32 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Monkey Biz: Cancer-Causing Vaccines, Polio AIDS Cancer-Causing Vaccines, Polio AIDS -Live Virus Vaccines Posted by: Our bill of rights [EMAIL PROTECTED] ourbillofrights Date: Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:51 am ((PST)) Monkey Biz: Cancer-Causing Vaccines, Polio AIDS by ALAN CANTWELL, M.D. http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=34contentid=1373page=1 The Global Polio Eradication Program, supported by the United Nation's World Health Organization (WHO), UNICEF, Rotary International, and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC), is planning to immunize 74 million African children in 22 countries in the coming months. The purpose is to stem a wild polio epidemic, the epicenter of which is oil-rich Nigeria, the most populous country in Africa. The vaccine program hit a snag last Fall when Islamic clerics in the predominantly Muslim-populated areas of northern Nigeria claimed the WHO program was a plot by westerners to depopulate the area. Laboratory tests revealed estrogen and other female sex hormones in the polio vaccine, proof that the vaccines were contaminated with substances that could cause sterility. Furthermore, Nigerian officials became aware of internet reports suggesting the WHO vaccine might be contaminated with HIV (the AIDS virus) and other cancer-causing viruses. African blacks are as suspicious of government vaccines programs as American blacks. A 1990 survey of African-Americans in New York City showed 30% believed AIDS is an ethno-specific bioweapon designed in a laboratory to kill black people. Dr. David Heymann, who heads the WHO eradication program, says the oral polio vaccine (which contains live but attenuated polio virus) is completely safe. He blames Nigerians for exporting polio to surrounding nations. The WHO, the world's leading international health and science agency, is mired in power politics. For example, the Bush administration now restricts communications between the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and WHO officials. A new HHS policy requires the WHO to submit all requests for expert scientific advice to political officials at HHS who will then choose which federal scientists will be permitted to respond. The new policy and two recent Administration decisions to withdraw federal scientists from major international health conferences are part of a disturbing pattern of political interference in global health issues. ANTI-FERTILITY VACCINES WHO In March 2004, Haruna Kaita, a pharmaceutical scientist and Dean of Ahmadu Bello University
Re: [Biofuel] Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel :-)
Amen brother. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 2:34 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel :-) LOL...but wait a minute...why am I laughing at the truth LOL :-) Surely nothing's funnier than the truth. And it helps! Especially these days. Its unfunny aspects remain but if you can find a good laugh in it too maybe it's a bit less daunting. Best Keith Don't die! Don't forget to smile! - rules for living, from a Hong Kong taxi driver, 1995. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel :-) Are we talking about grain fed lipofat vs range fed? Range fed would require walking around and bending over, causing less fat and more lean meat, whereas grain fed requires only bending over, like we are already used to, plus easier to engineer and enrich the grain for the highest quality lipofat. Mike LOL! What about the comparative Omega-3 fatty acid content? Is the grain a fossil-fuels dependant industrial monocrop a la ADM? Not carbon-neutral lipofat then, hm. What will be the effect of this kind of biofuel on tortilla prices in Mexico? To say nothing of Tyson's bottom line, let alone the Nikkei Index? And what about MOA disease (Mad Overweight Americans) - are feed regulations in place to ensure that you're not eating each other's brains? Let them eat grass, that's what I say. Actually, a certain list member made some liposuction by-product biodiesel four years ago but kept quiet about it because he wasn't sure the world was ready. Or something like that. Best Keith - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Fred Finch To: mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.orgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel :-) Wait a minute... I think we have a potential new field of employment for many Americans! We would generate our own fuel reserves by sucking out the fat of our asses at the same time we suck off the fat of the land! Granted it would not be sustainable. Kind of like what Tyson foods does to chickens. We could have literal fat farms! Produce the fat and render the fat. What a great idea! fred On 2/13/07, MK DuPree mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL LOL LOL LO:L...Get off your lazy fat asses and REJECT REAL ID...LOL LOL LOL Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: frantz Desprez mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.orgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 8:40 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel :-) :-) Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel! A norwegian businessman, Mr. Lauri Venøy, will settle in Miami in Florida to launch a production of biodiesel starting from greases resulting from liposuccions. 60% of the Americans are in overweight and a great number of them has recourse to the liposuccion. For Mr. Lauri Venøy, that can represent a lucrative market in the field of renewable energies. The norwegian contractor is currently in talks with the Jackson Memorial American hospital for the signature of an agreement, which would enable him to acquire 11.500 liters of human grease resulting from liposuccions each week, and thus to produce 10.000 liters of bio-diesel. BE Norway number 71 (8/02/2007) - Embassy of France in Norway/ADIT - http://www.bulletins-electroniques.com/actualites/41155.htmhttp://ww w.bulletins-electroniques.com/actualites/41155.htm Liposuccions : une nouvelle source de biodiesel ! Un homme d'affaire norvégien, M. Lauri Venøy, va s'installer à Miami en Floride pour lancer une production de biodiesel à partir des graisses issues des liposuccions. 60 % des Américains sont en surpoids et un grand nombre d'entre eux ont recours à la liposuccion. Pour M. Lauri Venøy, cela peut représenter un marché lucratif dans le domaine des énergies renouvelables. L'entrepreneur norvégien est actuellement en pourparler avec le très grand hôpital américain Jackson Memorial en vue de la signature d'un accord, qui lui permettrait d'acquérir 11 500 litres de graisse humaine issue des liposuccions chaque semaine, et ainsi de produire 10.000 litres de bio-diesel. BE Norvège numéro 71 (8/02/2007) - Ambassade de France en Norvège / ADIT - http://www.bulletins-electroniques.com/actualites/41155.htmhttp://ww w.bulletins-electroniques.com/actualites/41155.htm ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel
Re: [Biofuel] Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel :-)
LOL...I hear ya Debra...but the day appears to be fast approaching. Whoever started this did so on the same day Boston Legal included in an episode of their show this very issue. Mike - Original Message - From: Debra [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel :-) This whole subject is making me feel sick... I can't take the visual image of it all. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel :-) Are we talking about grain fed lipofat vs range fed? Range fed would require walking around and bending over, causing less fat and more lean meat, whereas grain fed requires only bending over, like we are already used to, plus easier to engineer and enrich the grain for the highest quality lipofat. Mike LOL! What about the comparative Omega-3 fatty acid content? Is the grain a fossil-fuels dependant industrial monocrop a la ADM? Not carbon-neutral lipofat then, hm. What will be the effect of this kind of biofuel on tortilla prices in Mexico? To say nothing of Tyson's bottom line, let alone the Nikkei Index? And what about MOA disease (Mad Overweight Americans) - are feed regulations in place to ensure that you're not eating each other's brains? Let them eat grass, that's what I say. Actually, a certain list member made some liposuction by-product biodiesel four years ago but kept quiet about it because he wasn't sure the world was ready. Or something like that. Best Keith - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Fred Finch To: mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.orgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel :-) Wait a minute... I think we have a potential new field of employment for many Americans! We would generate our own fuel reserves by sucking out the fat of our asses at the same time we suck off the fat of the land! Granted it would not be sustainable. Kind of like what Tyson foods does to chickens. We could have literal fat farms! Produce the fat and render the fat. What a great idea! fred On 2/13/07, MK DuPree mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL LOL LOL LO:L...Get off your lazy fat asses and REJECT REAL ID...LOL LOL LOL Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: frantz Desprez mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.orgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 8:40 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel :-) :-) Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel! A norwegian businessman, Mr. Lauri Venøy, will settle in Miami in Florida to launch a production of biodiesel starting from greases resulting from liposuccions. 60% of the Americans are in overweight and a great number of them has recourse to the liposuccion. For Mr. Lauri Venøy, that can represent a lucrative market in the field of renewable energies. The norwegian contractor is currently in talks with the Jackson Memorial American hospital for the signature of an agreement, which would enable him to acquire 11.500 liters of human grease resulting from liposuccions each week, and thus to produce 10.000 liters of bio-diesel. BE Norway number 71 (8/02/2007) - Embassy of France in Norway/ADIT - http://www.bulletins-electroniques.com/actualites/41155.htmhttp://ww w.bulletins-electroniques.com/actualites/41155.htm Liposuccions : une nouvelle source de biodiesel ! Un homme d'affaire norvégien, M. Lauri Venøy, va s'installer à Miami en Floride pour lancer une production de biodiesel à partir des graisses issues des liposuccions. 60 % des Américains sont en surpoids et un grand nombre d'entre eux ont recours à la liposuccion. Pour M. Lauri Venøy, cela peut représenter un marché lucratif dans le domaine des énergies renouvelables. L'entrepreneur norvégien est actuellement en pourparler avec le très grand hôpital américain Jackson Memorial en vue de la signature d'un accord, qui lui permettrait d'acquérir 11 500 litres de graisse humaine issue des liposuccions chaque semaine, et ainsi de produire 10.000 litres de bio-diesel. BE Norvège numéro 71 (8/02/2007) - Ambassade de France en Norvège / ADIT - http://www.bulletins-electroniques.com/actualites/41155.htmhttp://ww w.bulletins-electroniques.com/actualites/41155.htm ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail
[Biofuel] Count Down REAL ID
Here's your Real ID countdown clock. Might as well repeal the 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and retain the section of Article IV amended by the 13th. Real ID makes slaves of all of us. This page also contains reliable info on Real ID. When you finally figure out this is for real and you want to at least write your reps, State Reps--Reject Real ID; Fed Reps--Repeal Real ID. I will be more than happy to help you find your appropriate reps and write letters. Put me to work...no charge, just a lot of love for what little liberty I still have. Mike http://www.ncsl.org/realid/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Monkey Biz: Cancer-Causing Vaccines, Polio AIDS (Add Long Live the Internet and Net Neutrality)
Keith and List...1) I've read the article and tried to followup by asking the author what legislation she's talking about, but that trail ends short of being able to contact her, so can anyone tell me exactly what legislation we're talking about? I want to call my ISP and ask them about this and if they are complying, but I don't know what legislation we're talking about; 2) No doubt about it that a 6 year old can see through all this. Catch this story. When I attended the press conference of Missouri House Rep Jim Guest announcing a resolution to have Missouri not comply with Real ID, I was told by his chief of staff that they had first heard about Real ID from a phone call made to their office by a 6 year old who was home schooled and saw the voting on C-SPAN. The 6 year old had been taught well enough to know that this legislation was not what Mommy and Daddy wanted so she called Guest's office Ain't that a freakin HOOT!!! and 3) When will the assault on our privacy and First Amendment rights end? The assault will stop with the implementation of Real ID. After implementation, there will be no more privacy and First Amendment rights to assault...we will have let them all become as so much dust in the wind. Let me say that again...WE will have let them all become as so much dust in the wind. Here I agree with the author that If we consumers stand by and allow the expansion of federal eavesdropping from basic phone calls to cell phones to emails, and now to Skype, or Internet calls, then we have only ourselves to blame. It's time that not only civil libertarians, but Internet Service Providers, stand up to this administration's ongoing assault on privacy, and the First Amendment. We must consider a boycott of those companies, and service providers, who comply with these new rules that are scheduled to go into effect in May. Absolutely. For the time being, until we are told what to buy as Real ID slowly unwinds through our society, we make ourselves heard most clearly by how we spend our money. You've heard it before, we vote with our pocketbooks. So now we have more work to do, call our ISPs and find out if they are complying...but with what legislation Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 6:18 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Monkey Biz: Cancer-Causing Vaccines, Polio AIDS (Add Long Live the Internet and Net Neutrality) Hi Mike and all Re the Internet and Net Neutrality: http://www.alternet.org/rights/47459/ The Government Wants to Tap Your Internet Calls By Jayne Lyn Stahl, HuffingtonPost.com. Posted February 14, 2007. First it was land lines, then it was cell phones. Now it's Internet calls. When will the assault on our privacy and First Amendment rights end? Over the past several months, the FCC and Justice Department have been working overtime, and fighting hard to tap not only your land line phone and cell phone, but to tap Internet calls, as well. Effective in May, those who provide voice transmission and broadband services will have to ensure that their equipment that is wiretap-ready, and accessible to your local police force and the FBI. The new legislation is modeled after the 1994 Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement, or CALEA, which was designed primarily to facilitate wiretapping of mobile phones. This new legislation is intended to expand governmental surveillance powers to cover companies like Vonage, so the progression evolves thus: First we can tap Ma Bell, then Cingular Wireless, then Yahoo emails, then Vonage. The rules set to go into effect in a couple of months were challenged by a U.S. appeals panel back in July, and U.S. District Judge Harry T. Edwards called courtroom arguments made by the FCC goobledygook. He was, in my opinion, being kind. Civil liberties groups have expressed outrage over the FCC expansionism, claiming that this legislation doesn't take into account the fundamental difference between the telephone, a vehicle for conversation, and the Internet, a tool by which information is acquired and conveyed. Lawyers for the government argued only that the 1994 legislation intended to be applied to future technology; the Judge wasn't buying that, and neither should we. Moreover, sophistic claims by the Justice Department that not increasing wiretapping capability to encompass the rapidly proliferating Internet phone industry will transform the Web into a refuge for criminals and terrorists are not only hackneyed, they're transparent enough for a 6-year-old to see through. Alarmingly, with all the discourse about theoretical differences between online, and real time telephonics, what seems to have been lost in arguments for and against the FCC's new rules to require ISPs to ensure that their equipment can be hacked by law
Re: [Biofuel] Marijuana Called Top U.S. Cash Crop
LOL...Courtney is a typical DEA idiot and a complete BONEHEAD...OF COURSE THERE ARE NO MOM-POP BONG SHOPS...YOU'VE ALREADY ARRESTED THEM! And, of course, if it were legalized, then you would take the Mexican drug trafficking group(s) out of the equation, but this makes the argument too complicated for this utter numbskull. Mike DuPree PS HONK FOR HEMP!! - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:56 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Marijuana Called Top U.S. Cash Crop See Invisible farming: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html#invis --- Marijuana Production in the United States (2006) by Jon Gettman Full text online. http://www.drugscience.org/bcr/ Entire Report (356 kb pdf) http://www.drugscience.org/Archive/bcr2/MJCropReport_2006.pdf http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=2735017page=1 ABC News: February 14, 2007 | Local News and Weather Marijuana Called Top U.S. Cash Crop Marijuana Takes the Pot as Most Valuable Cash Crop in the Country Marijuana is the top cash crop in 12 states and among the top three cash crops in 30, according to a new study. (AP Photo ) By NITYA VENKATARAMAN Dec. 18, 2006 Weeding through the value of the nation's cash crops, a study released today states that marijuana is the U.S.'s most valuable crop and promotes the drug's legalization and taxation. Drug enforcement officials say the equation is not that simple. The report, Marijuana Production in the United States, by marijuana policy researcher Jon Gettman, concludes that despite massive eradication efforts at the hands of the federal government, marijuana has become a pervasive and ineradicable part of the national economy. In the report, Gettman, a marijuana-reform activist and leader of the Coalition for Rescheduling Cannabis, champions a system of legal regulation. Contrasting government figures for traditional crops - like corn and wheat - against the study's projections for marijuana production, the report cites marijuana as the top cash crop in 12 states and among the top three cash crops in 30. The study estimates that marijuana production, at a value of $35.8 billion, exceeds the combined value of corn ($23.3 billion) and wheat ($7.5 billion). Pot Tax? To activists for marijuana legalization, the study confirms a position they've held for years, and uses government stats to support their claim. The fact that marijuana is America's No. 1 cash crop after more than three decades of governmental eradication efforts is the clearest illustration that our present marijuana laws are a complete failure, says Rob Kampia, executive director of the Marijuana Policy Project in Washington D.C., a group that focuses on removing criminal penalties for marijuana use. Kampia, whose comments were included in the study's press release, adds, Our nation's laws guarantee that 100 percent of the proceeds from marijuana sales go to unregulated criminals rather than to legitimate businesses that pay taxes to support schools, police and roads. A 2005 analysis by Harvard visiting professor Jeffrey Miron estimates that if the United States legalized marijuana, the country would save $7.7 billion in law enforcement costs and could generated as much as $6.2 billion annually if marijuana were taxed like alcohol or tobacco. Miron's report on the costs of marijuana prohibition was signed by more than 500 leading economists, most notably the late Nobel laureate Milton Friedman, who served as an economist in both the Nixon and Reagan administrations. The Dangers of Legalization Aside from the health debate over legalizing marijuana, Garrison Courtney, spokesman for the Drug Enforcement Agency, says groups that advocate its taxation sometimes paint too rosy a picture. It's still a drug, Courtney says. Just because it's a good cash crop doesn't mean you should legalize and tax it. It's not these cute mom-and-pop bong shops anymore, Courtney continued. It's violent drug-trafficking groups that are doing all these grows. Local marijuana growers, he says, are the tentacles of international drug-trafficking organizations that bring weapons, violence and a slew of other drugs into the market. You can't tax a Mexican drug trafficking group, Courtney explains. That's the side a lot of people don't focus on. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Re: [Biofuel] Monkey Biz: Cancer-Causing Vaccines, Polio AIDS (Add Long Live the Internet and Net Neutrality)
Thanks Keith...got some following up to do. After eeading comments on this story, it sounds like the author doesn't understand the issue or especially the legislation, whatever it might be. So now I'm confused as to the issue and even more so the legislation. EFF may be the place to go to ask questions, lead me to the legislation. I found the same thing with Real ID. Little by little I've been able to find reliable sources, starting with reading the legislation itself. Oh well, snow on the ground and absolutely frigid outside. What better way to spend the day indoors than to try and knock down a few...doors. lol Mike - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Monkey Biz: Cancer-Causing Vaccines, Polio AIDS (Add Long Live the Internet and Net Neutrality) Keith and List...1) I've read the article and tried to followup by asking the author what legislation she's talking about, but that trail ends short of being able to contact her, so can anyone tell me exactly what legislation we're talking about? I want to call my ISP and ask them about this and if they are complying, but I don't know what legislation we're talking about; 2) No doubt about it that a 6 year old can see through all this. Catch this story. When I attended the press conference of Missouri House Rep Jim Guest announcing a resolution to have Missouri not comply with Real ID, I was told by his chief of staff that they had first heard about Real ID from a phone call made to their office by a 6 year old who was home schooled and saw the voting on C-SPAN. The 6 year old had been taught well enough to know that this legislation was not what Mommy and Daddy wanted so she called Guest's office Ain't that a freakin HOOT!!! LOL! Out of the mouths of babes... and 3) When will the assault on our privacy and First Amendment rights end? The assault will stop with the implementation of Real ID. After implementation, there will be no more privacy and First Amendment rights to assault...we will have let them all become as so much dust in the wind. Let me say that again...WE will have let them all become as so much dust in the wind. Here I agree with the author that If we consumers stand by and allow the expansion of federal eavesdropping from basic phone calls to cell phones to emails, and now to Skype, or Internet calls, then we have only ourselves to blame. It's time that not only civil libertarians, but Internet Service Providers, stand up to this administration's ongoing assault on privacy, and the First Amendment. We must consider a boycott of those companies, and service providers, who comply with these new rules that are scheduled to go into effect in May. Absolutely. For the time being, until we are told what to buy as Real ID slowly unwinds through our society, we make ourselves heard most clearly by how we spend our money. You've heard it before, we vote with our pocketbooks. So now we have more work to do, call our ISPs and find out if they are complying...but with what legislation Mike DuPree Dunno. I found this though: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jayne-lyn-stahl/coming-soon-more-big-bro _b_40039.html The Blog | Jayne Lyn Stahl: Coming Soon: More Big Brother to Love | The Huffington Post With some comments, might be useful. Ask the EFF? http://www.eff.org/ EFF: Homepage Best Keith - Original Message - From: Keith Addison mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.orgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 6:18 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Monkey Biz: Cancer-Causing Vaccines, Polio AIDS (Add Long Live the Internet and Net Neutrality) Hi Mike and all Re the Internet and Net Neutrality: http://www.alternet.org/rights/47459/http://www.alternet.org/rights/ 47459/ The Government Wants to Tap Your Internet Calls By Jayne Lyn Stahl, HuffingtonPost.com. Posted February 14, 2007. First it was land lines, then it was cell phones. Now it's Internet calls. When will the assault on our privacy and First Amendment rights end? Over the past several months, the FCC and Justice Department have been working overtime, and fighting hard to tap not only your land line phone and cell phone, but to tap Internet calls, as well. Effective in May, those who provide voice transmission and broadband services will have to ensure that their equipment that is wiretap-ready, and accessible to your local police force and the FBI. The new legislation is modeled after the 1994 Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement, or CALEA, which was designed primarily to facilitate wiretapping of mobile phones. This new legislation is intended to expand governmental surveillance powers to cover companies like Vonage, so the progression evolves thus: First we can tap Ma Bell, then Cingular
Re: [Biofuel] Marijuana Called Top U.S. Cash Crop
Bring it on... - Original Message - From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Marijuana Called Top U.S. Cash Crop So let's legalize it,, knock out the drug gangs, and tax it, using the taxes to fund rehab programs for those who want to stop. MK DuPree wrote: LOL...Courtney is a typical DEA idiot and a complete BONEHEAD...OF COURSE THERE ARE NO MOM-POP BONG SHOPS...YOU'VE ALREADY ARRESTED THEM! And, of course, if it were legalized, then you would take the Mexican drug trafficking group(s) out of the equation, but this makes the argument too complicated for this utter numbskull. Mike DuPree PS HONK FOR HEMP!! - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:56 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Marijuana Called Top U.S. Cash Crop See Invisible farming: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html#invis --- Marijuana Production in the United States (2006) by Jon Gettman Full text online. http://www.drugscience.org/bcr/ Entire Report (356 kb pdf) http://www.drugscience.org/Archive/bcr2/MJCropReport_2006.pdf http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=2735017page=1 ABC News: February 14, 2007 | Local News and Weather Marijuana Called Top U.S. Cash Crop Marijuana Takes the Pot as Most Valuable Cash Crop in the Country Marijuana is the top cash crop in 12 states and among the top three cash crops in 30, according to a new study. (AP Photo ) By NITYA VENKATARAMAN Dec. 18, 2006 Weeding through the value of the nation's cash crops, a study released today states that marijuana is the U.S.'s most valuable crop and promotes the drug's legalization and taxation. Drug enforcement officials say the equation is not that simple. The report, Marijuana Production in the United States, by marijuana policy researcher Jon Gettman, concludes that despite massive eradication efforts at the hands of the federal government, marijuana has become a pervasive and ineradicable part of the national economy. In the report, Gettman, a marijuana-reform activist and leader of the Coalition for Rescheduling Cannabis, champions a system of legal regulation. Contrasting government figures for traditional crops - like corn and wheat - against the study's projections for marijuana production, the report cites marijuana as the top cash crop in 12 states and among the top three cash crops in 30. The study estimates that marijuana production, at a value of $35.8 billion, exceeds the combined value of corn ($23.3 billion) and wheat ($7.5 billion). Pot Tax? To activists for marijuana legalization, the study confirms a position they've held for years, and uses government stats to support their claim. The fact that marijuana is America's No. 1 cash crop after more than three decades of governmental eradication efforts is the clearest illustration that our present marijuana laws are a complete failure, says Rob Kampia, executive director of the Marijuana Policy Project in Washington D.C., a group that focuses on removing criminal penalties for marijuana use. Kampia, whose comments were included in the study's press release, adds, Our nation's laws guarantee that 100 percent of the proceeds from marijuana sales go to unregulated criminals rather than to legitimate businesses that pay taxes to support schools, police and roads. A 2005 analysis by Harvard visiting professor Jeffrey Miron estimates that if the United States legalized marijuana, the country would save $7.7 billion in law enforcement costs and could generated as much as $6.2 billion annually if marijuana were taxed like alcohol or tobacco. Miron's report on the costs of marijuana prohibition was signed by more than 500 leading economists, most notably the late Nobel laureate Milton Friedman, who served as an economist in both the Nixon and Reagan administrations. The Dangers of Legalization Aside from the health debate over legalizing marijuana, Garrison Courtney, spokesman for the Drug Enforcement Agency, says groups that advocate its taxation sometimes paint too rosy a picture. It's still a drug, Courtney says. Just because it's a good cash crop doesn't mean you should legalize and tax it. It's not these cute mom-and-pop bong shops anymore, Courtney continued. It's violent drug-trafficking groups that are doing all these grows. Local marijuana growers, he says, are the tentacles of international drug-trafficking organizations that bring weapons, violence and a slew of other drugs into the market. You can't tax a Mexican drug trafficking group, Courtney explains. That's the side a lot of people don't focus on. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined
Re: [Biofuel] Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel :-)
As long as we're talking figuratively, I understand and agree...:P - Original Message - From: Joe Street To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel :-) 'Big sticks' are the WORST when ur bent over! lol MK DuPree wrote: LOL..well, Uncle Sam carries a bigger stick. Some like it, most don't, but what do you do? :p - Original Message - From: Joe Street To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel :-) Used to bending over??? Speak for yourself there buddy. In Canada them's fightin words.lol Joe MK DuPree wrote: Are we talking about grain fed lipofat vs range fed? Range fed would require walking around and bending over, causing less fat and more lean meat, whereas grain fed requires only bending over, like we are already used to, plus easier to engineer and enrich the grain for the highest quality lipofat. Mike - Original Message - From: Fred Finch To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel :-) Wait a minute... I think we have a potential new field of employment for many Americans! We would generate our own fuel reserves by sucking out the fat of our asses at the same time we suck off the fat of the land! Granted it would not be sustainable. Kind of like what Tyson foods does to chickens. We could have literal fat farms! Produce the fat and render the fat. What a great idea! fred On 2/13/07, MK DuPree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL LOL LOL LO:L...Get off your lazy fat asses and REJECT REAL ID...LOL LOL LOL Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: frantz Desprez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 8:40 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel :-) :-) Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel! A norwegian businessman, Mr. Lauri Venøy, will settle in Miami in Florida to launch a production of biodiesel starting from greases resulting from liposuccions. 60% of the Americans are in overweight and a great number of them has recourse to the liposuccion. For Mr. Lauri Venøy, that can represent a lucrative market in the field of renewable energies. The norwegian contractor is currently in talks with the Jackson Memorial American hospital for the signature of an agreement, which would enable him to acquire 11.500 liters of human grease resulting from liposuccions each week, and thus to produce 10.000 liters of bio-diesel. BE Norway number 71 (8/02/2007) - Embassy of France in Norway/ADIT - http://www.bulletins-electroniques.com/actualites/41155.htm Liposuccions : une nouvelle source de biodiesel ! Un homme d'affaire norvégien, M. Lauri Venøy, va s'installer à Miami en Floride pour lancer une production de biodiesel à partir des graisses issues des liposuccions. 60 % des Américains sont en surpoids et un grand nombre d'entre eux ont recours à la liposuccion. Pour M. Lauri Venøy, cela peut représenter un marché lucratif dans le domaine des énergies renouvelables. L'entrepreneur norvégien est actuellement en pourparler avec le très grand hôpital américain Jackson Memorial en vue de la signature d'un accord, qui lui permettrait d'acquérir 11 500 litres de graisse humaine issue des liposuccions chaque semaine, et ainsi de produire 10.000 litres de bio-diesel. BE Norvège numéro 71 (8/02/2007) - Ambassade de France en Norvège / ADIT - http://www.bulletins-electroniques.com/actualites/41155.htm ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Re: [Biofuel] Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel :-)
LOL LOL LOL LO:L...Get off your lazy fat asses and REJECT REAL ID...LOL LOL LOL Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: frantz Desprez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 8:40 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel :-) :-) Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel! A norwegian businessman, Mr. Lauri Venøy, will settle in Miami in Florida to launch a production of biodiesel starting from greases resulting from liposuccions. 60% of the Americans are in overweight and a great number of them has recourse to the liposuccion. For Mr. Lauri Venøy, that can represent a lucrative market in the field of renewable energies. The norwegian contractor is currently in talks with the Jackson Memorial American hospital for the signature of an agreement, which would enable him to acquire 11.500 liters of human grease resulting from liposuccions each week, and thus to produce 10.000 liters of bio-diesel. BE Norway number 71 (8/02/2007) - Embassy of France in Norway/ADIT - http://www.bulletins-electroniques.com/actualites/41155.htm Liposuccions : une nouvelle source de biodiesel ! Un homme d'affaire norvégien, M. Lauri Venøy, va s'installer à Miami en Floride pour lancer une production de biodiesel à partir des graisses issues des liposuccions. 60 % des Américains sont en surpoids et un grand nombre d'entre eux ont recours à la liposuccion. Pour M. Lauri Venøy, cela peut représenter un marché lucratif dans le domaine des énergies renouvelables. L'entrepreneur norvégien est actuellement en pourparler avec le très grand hôpital américain Jackson Memorial en vue de la signature d'un accord, qui lui permettrait d'acquérir 11 500 litres de graisse humaine issue des liposuccions chaque semaine, et ainsi de produire 10.000 litres de bio-diesel. BE Norvège numéro 71 (8/02/2007) - Ambassade de France en Norvège / ADIT - http://www.bulletins-electroniques.com/actualites/41155.htm ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel :-)
Are we talking about grain fed lipofat vs range fed? Range fed would require walking around and bending over, causing less fat and more lean meat, whereas grain fed requires only bending over, like we are already used to, plus easier to engineer and enrich the grain for the highest quality lipofat. Mike - Original Message - From: Fred Finch To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel :-) Wait a minute... I think we have a potential new field of employment for many Americans! We would generate our own fuel reserves by sucking out the fat of our asses at the same time we suck off the fat of the land! Granted it would not be sustainable. Kind of like what Tyson foods does to chickens. We could have literal fat farms! Produce the fat and render the fat. What a great idea! fred On 2/13/07, MK DuPree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL LOL LOL LO:L...Get off your lazy fat asses and REJECT REAL ID...LOL LOL LOL Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: frantz Desprez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 8:40 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel :-) :-) Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel! A norwegian businessman, Mr. Lauri Venøy, will settle in Miami in Florida to launch a production of biodiesel starting from greases resulting from liposuccions. 60% of the Americans are in overweight and a great number of them has recourse to the liposuccion. For Mr. Lauri Venøy, that can represent a lucrative market in the field of renewable energies. The norwegian contractor is currently in talks with the Jackson Memorial American hospital for the signature of an agreement, which would enable him to acquire 11.500 liters of human grease resulting from liposuccions each week, and thus to produce 10.000 liters of bio-diesel. BE Norway number 71 (8/02/2007) - Embassy of France in Norway/ADIT - http://www.bulletins-electroniques.com/actualites/41155.htm Liposuccions : une nouvelle source de biodiesel ! Un homme d'affaire norvégien, M. Lauri Venøy, va s'installer à Miami en Floride pour lancer une production de biodiesel à partir des graisses issues des liposuccions. 60 % des Américains sont en surpoids et un grand nombre d'entre eux ont recours à la liposuccion. Pour M. Lauri Venøy, cela peut représenter un marché lucratif dans le domaine des énergies renouvelables. L'entrepreneur norvégien est actuellement en pourparler avec le très grand hôpital américain Jackson Memorial en vue de la signature d'un accord, qui lui permettrait d'acquérir 11 500 litres de graisse humaine issue des liposuccions chaque semaine, et ainsi de produire 10.000 litres de bio-diesel. BE Norvège numéro 71 (8/02/2007) - Ambassade de France en Norvège / ADIT - http://www.bulletins-electroniques.com/actualites/41155.htm ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] A Real ID Pizza Order
Life after Real ID is implemented. But this is just the beginning. Remember Section 201(3), any other purposes that the Secretary shall determine. Mike http://www.aclu.org/pizza/images/screen.swf ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel :-)
LOL...but wait a minute...why am I laughing at the truth LOL - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel :-) Are we talking about grain fed lipofat vs range fed? Range fed would require walking around and bending over, causing less fat and more lean meat, whereas grain fed requires only bending over, like we are already used to, plus easier to engineer and enrich the grain for the highest quality lipofat. Mike LOL! What about the comparative Omega-3 fatty acid content? Is the grain a fossil-fuels dependant industrial monocrop a la ADM? Not carbon-neutral lipofat then, hm. What will be the effect of this kind of biofuel on tortilla prices in Mexico? To say nothing of Tyson's bottom line, let alone the Nikkei Index? And what about MOA disease (Mad Overweight Americans) - are feed regulations in place to ensure that you're not eating each other's brains? Let them eat grass, that's what I say. Actually, a certain list member made some liposuction by-product biodiesel four years ago but kept quiet about it because he wasn't sure the world was ready. Or something like that. Best Keith - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Fred Finch To: mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.orgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel :-) Wait a minute... I think we have a potential new field of employment for many Americans! We would generate our own fuel reserves by sucking out the fat of our asses at the same time we suck off the fat of the land! Granted it would not be sustainable. Kind of like what Tyson foods does to chickens. We could have literal fat farms! Produce the fat and render the fat. What a great idea! fred On 2/13/07, MK DuPree mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL LOL LOL LO:L...Get off your lazy fat asses and REJECT REAL ID...LOL LOL LOL Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: frantz Desprez mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.orgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 8:40 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel :-) :-) Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel! A norwegian businessman, Mr. Lauri Venøy, will settle in Miami in Florida to launch a production of biodiesel starting from greases resulting from liposuccions. 60% of the Americans are in overweight and a great number of them has recourse to the liposuccion. For Mr. Lauri Venøy, that can represent a lucrative market in the field of renewable energies. The norwegian contractor is currently in talks with the Jackson Memorial American hospital for the signature of an agreement, which would enable him to acquire 11.500 liters of human grease resulting from liposuccions each week, and thus to produce 10.000 liters of bio-diesel. BE Norway number 71 (8/02/2007) - Embassy of France in Norway/ADIT - http://www.bulletins-electroniques.com/actualites/41155.htmhttp://ww w.bulletins-electroniques.com/actualites/41155.htm Liposuccions : une nouvelle source de biodiesel ! Un homme d'affaire norvégien, M. Lauri Venøy, va s'installer à Miami en Floride pour lancer une production de biodiesel à partir des graisses issues des liposuccions. 60 % des Américains sont en surpoids et un grand nombre d'entre eux ont recours à la liposuccion. Pour M. Lauri Venøy, cela peut représenter un marché lucratif dans le domaine des énergies renouvelables. L'entrepreneur norvégien est actuellement en pourparler avec le très grand hôpital américain Jackson Memorial en vue de la signature d'un accord, qui lui permettrait d'acquérir 11 500 litres de graisse humaine issue des liposuccions chaque semaine, et ainsi de produire 10.000 litres de bio-diesel. BE Norvège numéro 71 (8/02/2007) - Ambassade de France en Norvège / ADIT - http://www.bulletins-electroniques.com/actualites/41155.htmhttp://ww w.bulletins-electroniques.com/actualites/41155.htm ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel
Re: [Biofuel] Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel :-)
LOL..well, Uncle Sam carries a bigger stick. Some like it, most don't, but what do you do? :p - Original Message - From: Joe Street To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel :-) Used to bending over??? Speak for yourself there buddy. In Canada them's fightin words.lol Joe MK DuPree wrote: Are we talking about grain fed lipofat vs range fed? Range fed would require walking around and bending over, causing less fat and more lean meat, whereas grain fed requires only bending over, like we are already used to, plus easier to engineer and enrich the grain for the highest quality lipofat. Mike - Original Message - From: Fred Finch To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel :-) Wait a minute... I think we have a potential new field of employment for many Americans! We would generate our own fuel reserves by sucking out the fat of our asses at the same time we suck off the fat of the land! Granted it would not be sustainable. Kind of like what Tyson foods does to chickens. We could have literal fat farms! Produce the fat and render the fat. What a great idea! fred On 2/13/07, MK DuPree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL LOL LOL LO:L...Get off your lazy fat asses and REJECT REAL ID...LOL LOL LOL Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: frantz Desprez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 8:40 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel :-) :-) Liposuccions: a new source of biodiesel! A norwegian businessman, Mr. Lauri Venøy, will settle in Miami in Florida to launch a production of biodiesel starting from greases resulting from liposuccions. 60% of the Americans are in overweight and a great number of them has recourse to the liposuccion. For Mr. Lauri Venøy, that can represent a lucrative market in the field of renewable energies. The norwegian contractor is currently in talks with the Jackson Memorial American hospital for the signature of an agreement, which would enable him to acquire 11.500 liters of human grease resulting from liposuccions each week, and thus to produce 10.000 liters of bio-diesel. BE Norway number 71 (8/02/2007) - Embassy of France in Norway/ADIT - http://www.bulletins-electroniques.com/actualites/41155.htm Liposuccions : une nouvelle source de biodiesel ! Un homme d'affaire norvégien, M. Lauri Venøy, va s'installer à Miami en Floride pour lancer une production de biodiesel à partir des graisses issues des liposuccions. 60 % des Américains sont en surpoids et un grand nombre d'entre eux ont recours à la liposuccion. Pour M. Lauri Venøy, cela peut représenter un marché lucratif dans le domaine des énergies renouvelables. L'entrepreneur norvégien est actuellement en pourparler avec le très grand hôpital américain Jackson Memorial en vue de la signature d'un accord, qui lui permettrait d'acquérir 11 500 litres de graisse humaine issue des liposuccions chaque semaine, et ainsi de produire 10.000 litres de bio-diesel. BE Norvège numéro 71 (8/02/2007) - Ambassade de France en Norvège / ADIT - http://www.bulletins-electroniques.com/actualites/41155.htm ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman
[Biofuel] Real ID a Real Ramjob
Read these comments from U.S. Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) regarding how the Real ID Act became law without a conference and vote then added to the spending bill (HR1268) that passed. NO CONFERENCE...NO VOTE. If this isn't at least worth forwarding to every citizen in the USA, then what is? I implore you...pass it on. Mike PS Here is an additional link that will help folks get up to speed on Real ID: http://www.epic.org/privacy/id_cards/ http://murray.senate.gov/news.cfm?id=237369 Real ID Provision Next, Mr. President, I am very troubled by how far-reaching and unrelated immigration rules got attached to this bill without a vote and without an opportunity to debate. The Real ID provision has ramifications for privacy, states' rights and immigration policy. I am disappointed that it has been rammed through as an attachment to desperately needed funding for our troops. Denied a Vote Many of us are scratching our heads about how this Real ID provision ended up in the conference report. I know I didn't vote on it. I know there wasn't even a discussion of it in conference, but somehow - here it is - included in this must-pass bill. I served on the conference committee. I want to share with my colleagues exactly what happened in the conference meeting so they will understand why the sudden appearance of the Real ID provision is so surprising to many of us. When the conference committee met, the Chairman gave assurances to the minority that we would be able to vote on several provisions when the conference met again. But the conference never met again - leaving no opportunity for the minority party to vote - much less to strike these provisions. Let me share the specifics. In our second meeting, Senator Durbin asked Chairman Cochran for his assurance that we would get a chance to vote on these immigration changes - and other open items -- before the supplemental was sent to the floor. In fact, I want to read a portion of a transcript from that meeting. This discussion took place on Thursday, April 28th. Senator Durbin: I would also like to say to my colleagues, if this bill contains -- as I believe it does -- the Real ID Act, I would like a vote on that so that we can be on the record on an issue that has never been brought before committee in the Senate. My question to you is this, Mr. Chairman: there have been times when conference committees of this magnitude have recessed and never been heard from again. The next thing we find is a conference committee report on the Floor on a take it or leave it basis. Can we have your assurance that we will return for votes on amendments such as those we have debated today and those that I have mentioned? Here was Senator Cochran's response to Senator Durbin: Senator Cochran: Senator, I would be glad to make the assurance that if there is work to be done, if there are open items to be considered, that we can consider those in conference. I am not prepared to make a commitment as to when that will be. I don't want to lead you to believe that I am going to surreptitiously or in secret reach an agreement on the other side without consulting with all the conferees on the Senate side. I think everyone in this conference has a right to participate in this discussion and I wouldn't want to cut off anybody's right to participate. Now I've worked with Senator Cochran for many years, and I know him to be a man of his word. Mr. President, to me that exchange meant that we would have an opportunity to vote on the Real ID provision, but that never happened. To me, that is wrong. The Real ID provision will have dramatic and far-reaching changes and yet it has never been brought before a Senate committee and was never voted on in the Conference. Mr. President, that is why I did not sign the final conference report, which is unusual for me. I did not sign it because I believe the process was flawed, and we were denied an opportunity to debate and discuss these immigration changes before they were brought to the floor as part of a must-pass bill. We are all very concerned about our security, but this received very little debate. Before Congress mandates these kinds of changes, we should have a more informed debate. In fact, it begs the question - why was this added to a must-pass bill without any debate? Probably because it couldn't withstand a rigorous and open public debate. But that's what we should have on this issue, and I'm disappointed that the Majority denied us that opportunity. I also want to note the irony that the Senate is about to allow a technical fix to immigration-related language that was included in the supplemental - which I agree needs to be fixed - but the Democrats in the conference committee were not provided any opportunity to fix the any other immigration provisions. I want to reiterate my frustration with how the Real ID Act was included, and
[Biofuel] DuPree Real ID Reader Comment in Portland Press Herald
MaineToday.com (owner of the online Portland Press Herald) approved my Reader Comment regarding State Sen. Libby Mitchell's article on Maine's Rejection of Real ID. I've included a link to the article, the article, and my Comment. Mike http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/viewpoints/mvoice/070125mvoice.html About the Author State Sen. Libby Mitchell, D-Vassalboro, is majority leader of the Maine Senate. 'Real ID' licenses a really bad idea By State Sen. Libby Mitchell Thursday, January 25, 2007 Recall the last time you went to a Bureau of Motor Vehicles office to renew your driver's license or get a new one. Think about how much time you spent waiting your turn, line, filling out forms and jumping through bureaucratic hoops. Now take that time and double it. Then repeat the last step. That's the situation we're all facing if the Real ID Act, passed by Congress in 2005 without debate or hearings, is implemented in Maine. Real ID mandates that by 2008 Maine turn its driver's license into a national ID card that will be part of a 50-state shared database. The card that was once used to prove an individual was safe to drive will now be used as an internal passport that can be used to track an individual's movement and activities. Those without the federally regulated card will be unable to board a plane or enter a federal building, and those who have discrepancies or cannot verify their source documents individuals who have changed their last names, lost birth certificates due to floods, or were born in another country will be caught in bureaucratic limbo, unable to drive or travel. State licensing officials across the country have described this program as a nightmare and called the May 2008 deadline impossible to meet. The burdens of compliance are onerous: Every single person will have to show up to the BMV with documents proving they are who they say they are, and licensing officials will then have to verify those documents. Then, individuals will have to return on another day to pick up their license. All this means longer waits and higher fees. But that's not all. In addition to creating more red tape, Real ID is an unfunded mandate. According to Maine Secretary of State Matt Dunlap, Organizations such as the National Governor's Association, National Conference of State Legislatures, and the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators have estimated initial costs of the Real ID Act to be around $11 billion. Maine's share of those costs is around $185 million over the first five years. Dunlop added, This is more than six times the annual budget for the Bureau of Motor Vehicles, and none of these costs are addressed by the federal government. Left unfunded, this could mean substantial increases in customer fees. So, what do we get for all this money? Security experts agree that Real ID will do nothing to prevent terrorism, but will make ordinary Americans more vulnerable to invasions of privacy and identity theft. Real ID requires that each state open up the records on all its licensed drivers to all other states, creating a single, interlinked database that will contain all your personal information. This information will also be encoded on a machine-readable zone on the card, allowing businesses to pick up sensitive data about you every time they swipe or scan your ID. Both the database and the machine-readable zone will be irresistible temptations for criminals one-stop shops for bad actors who will be able to use them to steal your identity. Maine should be a leader in saying no to this unfunded, bureaucratic nightmare. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree and I have introduced a resolution stating that the state of Maine protests the treatment by Congress and the president of our state as an agent of the federal government. Therefore, our state refuses to implement the Real ID Act and will not spend any taxpayer dollars or other revenues on implementing Real ID. Real ID is bad for our country and it's bad for our state. I hope that my colleagues will join with us in fighting to keep Real ID out of Maine. Special to the Press Herald Reader comments Michael DuPree of Lawrence, KS Feb 1, 2007 10:20 PM Sen. Mitchell, how did you make this happen in Maine? We want to make it happen in Kansas too. As Maine goes, so goes the nation. Let's hope so. Let's hope enough of the other States do same, ulitmately persuading our Congress to repeal Real ID. In fact, it is in the best interests of all Maine readers and citizens to begin immediately encouraging any of your friends, family, acquaintances, relationships of any kind in the other States to work towards their own State doing as Maine has done. May 11, 2008, is near at hand. While Real ID addresses risks we all face and will face for the rest of our lives, it imposes upon the States and each of us individually even greater risks. Sen. Mitchell alludes to some of
Re: [Biofuel] The Secret, a movie, online for free
That's ok, Joe. Scientology not my interest. I'm more concerned with Chip's conclusion, especially how he might have arrived at it. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Joe Street To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The Secret, a movie, online for free I could tell you a bunch of stuff about scientology, but not here. You don't want to get on their blacklist believe me. Joe MK DuPree wrote: Chip, I've heard about Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard (isn't he the founder?), but never read any of the stuff. So I'm not sure what you're comparing the video to. However, I have watched the video The Secret and have no problem with it in that it basically speaks to me what I already know about myself, that what I see is what I get. In other words, I recognize how many of my actions and much of what I have in my life are preceded by my thoughts...or more specifically, my pictures based upon my deeply held beliefs and desires. My personal guide to evaluating any expression of what is supposed to be the truth is whether I can verify it as reality in my own life or trust I can verify it as the truth in my own life. I'm not sure I worded that accurately or completely enough, but there you go. Anyway, will you be more specific? What is it about The Secret that you compare to Scientology? I'm specifically curious if you have taken something and compared it not to the whole body of work but to an aspect of the total body of work but summed up the comparison to the whole body of work. If such is the case, I want to caution you and all of us, especially myself, against doing so, not just here, but in all areas of your life, our lives. It is that kind of lazy (or worse, prejudiced) thinking that blinds us from the truth wherever it may present itself. It is that kind of lazy (or worse, prejudiced) thinking that is the basis for racism and any other ism that fails to recognize the uniqueness of the individual and the development of that uniqueness in the expression of the truth. Thanks. Mike DuPree PS YOUR LIBERTY--USE IT OR LOSE IT--REJECT REAL ID (My new motto until we get this damn thing off the books or die trying. Write to me if you need more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Original Message - From: Chip Mefford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The Secret, a movie, online for free D. Mindock wrote: OK, by now most of you will have heard about the movie, The Secret Those of you who have not yet seen it, or want to see it again, can watch it here: http://www.renegadelemming.com/secretvideo/ Reminds me of Scientology ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Obfuscating Confuscating
Yeah...dat's what I'm talkin about...CONFISCATE any vehicle failing to switch to cleaner fuel. LOL Not in America...in America they want to confiscate YOU! YOUR LIBERTY--USE IT OR LOSE IT--REJECT REAL ID. Mike DuPree http://www.ameinfo.com/108665 Green diesel on the way United Arab Emirates: Thursday, January 25 - 2007 at 07:42 Abu Dhabi will gradually phase out the production of diesel with high sulphur content and replace it with a less polluting green fuel. Under the plan, cars that fail to switch to the cleaner fuel will be confiscated, according to Gulf News. High sulphur diesel engines are considered to be among the world's top air polluters. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Reject Real ID--A Story
I get an email from someone telling me I have a problem because someone wants to sing the National Anthem in Spanish. The email spews on how this is my country and blah blah blah and if I don't forward the email I'm part of the problem. So I write back: COMING SOON...REAL ID...May 11, 2008. Give me a break, (name withheld to protect the guilty). We've got much bigger problems coming down on us with Real ID than singing the National Anthem in Spanish. SO (I throw back at the guilty one the following words that were in his email trying to make me feel guilty if I don't try to make someone else feel guilty by not forwarding their idiot email), Think about this: If you don't want to forward this for fear of offending someone--YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM! And I continue, YOUR LIBERTY--USE IT OR LOSE IT--REJECT REAL ID. Mike PS (normally when I go into these tirades, this individual tells me to simmer, so I write back--) No simmer, (guilty one)..get fighting goddamn ANGRY we have to even deal with this...but deal with it WE must or IT WILL deal with us. See this website for complete info: http://www.epic.org/privacy/id_cards/ Read the Act for youself...pay special attention to these words in Section 201(3)...any other purposes that the Secretary shall determine. And I include this: I just called the Governor's office, a phone line to Government Affairs. When I asked the little girl on the other end if she knew if Kansas had anything in the works to Reject Real ID, she said, I don't think Kansas has any jurisdiction for doing that. This is the Governor's office for Government Affairs! 785-368-8500 I told her Maine has rejected it and other States have bills in the works to do same. Call the number yourself and ask Jessica if that's what she said to Mike DuPree. Then ask her how much it's going to cost Kansas to implement Real ID. Then, here's the website for emailing the Governor to let her know you want Kansas to Reject Real ID: http://www.governor.ks.gov/contact.htm After this I continue my tirade to the guilty one: Ok, you want to get real with real problems facing us, (guilty one), REJECT REAL ID...and forward this email to everyone on any list you have. Or, Think about this: If you don't want to forward this for fear of offending someone--YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM! For those of you living in other states, if you need help finding out who you're Governor is and how to email them, email me. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] The Secret, a movie, online for free
Chip, I've heard about Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard (isn't he the founder?), but never read any of the stuff. So I'm not sure what you're comparing the video to. However, I have watched the video The Secret and have no problem with it in that it basically speaks to me what I already know about myself, that what I see is what I get. In other words, I recognize how many of my actions and much of what I have in my life are preceded by my thoughts...or more specifically, my pictures based upon my deeply held beliefs and desires. My personal guide to evaluating any expression of what is supposed to be the truth is whether I can verify it as reality in my own life or trust I can verify it as the truth in my own life. I'm not sure I worded that accurately or completely enough, but there you go. Anyway, will you be more specific? What is it about The Secret that you compare to Scientology? I'm specifically curious if you have taken something and compared it not to the whole body of work but to an aspect of the total body of work but summed up the comparison to the whole body of work. If such is the case, I want to caution you and all of us, especially myself, against doing so, not just here, but in all areas of your life, our lives. It is that kind of lazy (or worse, prejudiced) thinking that blinds us from the truth wherever it may present itself. It is that kind of lazy (or worse, prejudiced) thinking that is the basis for racism and any other ism that fails to recognize the uniqueness of the individual and the development of that uniqueness in the expression of the truth. Thanks. Mike DuPree PS YOUR LIBERTY--USE IT OR LOSE IT--REJECT REAL ID (My new motto until we get this damn thing off the books or die trying. Write to me if you need more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Original Message - From: Chip Mefford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The Secret, a movie, online for free D. Mindock wrote: OK, by now most of you will have heard about the movie, The Secret Those of you who have not yet seen it, or want to see it again, can watch it here: http://www.renegadelemming.com/secretvideo/ Reminds me of Scientology ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] LIBERTY...USE IT OR LOSE IT...REJECT REAL ID
It's the birthday of writer and politician Thomas Paine, (books by this author) born in Thetford, England (1737). With his anonymously published pamphlet Common Sense, in 1776, he helped start the American Revolution, even though he'd only been living in America for a little more than a year. Thomas Paine said, He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself. It's the birthday of comedian and actor W.C. Fields, (sometimes listed as April 9, 1879) born William Claude Dukenfield, in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (1880). He said, There comes a time in the affairs of man when he must take the bull by the tail and face the situation. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Reference to Real ID Act in State of the Union
Doug...not sure what is your point. Could you please restate in other words? Not sure if it's your use of commas or what but I'm not understanding your point. Also, I made a mistake in my remark...New Hampshire has NOT rejected Real ID. I've written to the source of my remark and pointed this out. As I've stated elsewhere, shame on me for not exercising my own due diligence, a lesson learned, which I hope will be helpful to others also. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Doug Younker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 2:29 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Reference to Real ID Act in State of the Union I read this from Greg Palast earlier. Too bad he calls into question, valid points about big brother, by mis-characterizing The Strategic Petroleum Reserve. No matter what side of the issue Palast is not the only commentator, to give cause to question their remarks, with obvious spin. I suppose no matter what stripes the politicians and media wears they think the remainder of the population is ignorant. :( Doug, N0LKK Kansas USA inc. MK DuPree wrote: I wish Palast would have referenced outright H.R.1268, Title II (the Real ID Act) in this article, but he makes the point of concern to all US citizens anyway. By the way, New Hampshire has rejected this Act (http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd177.htm). *What are you doing to get your State Reps to do same?* *To get Federal Reps to rescind?* Also, pay attention to Palast's reference to Choice Point. This is the outsourcing of the implementation of Real ID to private industry and the total exposure of our private information without benefit of the Privacy Act (see www.unrealid.com http://www.unrealid.com). I'm tellin ya...*GET INVOLVED* or you WILL hate yourself the morning of May 11, 2008. Mike DuPree ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Mark Your Calendar!
Doug...check out this website: http://www.epic.org/privacy/id_cards/ Get informed on this issue, then contact your State Rep and Senator to find out what they know about it and what they are doing to get Kansas to Reject Real ID. I live in Lawrence, KS. Maine has rejected it. Other states have bills in the works to do same. There has been a US Senate bill (S.4117) introduced to repeal Real ID, but I'm not sure if S.4117 merely refashions Real ID into some other form. I'm seeking clarification on this now. As I noted in my other response, do your own due diligence along these lines, but do it. The Patriot Act is the noose around our necks...Real ID is the tightening and dropping of the floor boards beneath us. If you agree with me, let me know if there is anything I can do to help you get info or contact Reps or organize an effort to get others involved. We have little time to waste. I was amazed my own State Rep to the KS House didn't know anything about this. I haven't heard back from my State Senator. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Doug Younker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 2:09 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Mark Your Calendar! Well I guess that is the American way, Mike. Sucker punch anyone who isn't doing your bidding. ;) Friday nights are Kansas legislator night on Smoky Hills Public TV. Never occurred to me to call in and ask them about the real ID Act. Really hard to guess how the legislators in my part of state would vote. Doug, N0LKK Kansas USA inc. MK DuPree wrote: My response to this forward is...do you have fellow citizens who do same, who won't get involved when they really need to? REJECT REAL ID...Mike DuPree ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Can these people be trusted with our planet?
Keith...thank you. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Can these people be trusted with our planet? David I find myself unable to consider this a response, it's a mish-mash - I had to go back to my previous post to find out what the hell I'd been talking about. You're sure doing some mighty backpedalling, which is up to you, but cutting all the bits you might find difficult to respond to isn't acceptable. I'll reinstate my post in full and not give you any further reply as I don't consider that the discussion any longer has any integrity. But for this: religion. As to anti-Islam jingoism: political correctness requires us to say that Islam is a religion of peace and it's being hijacked by extremists. Islam is a not a religion of peace. The reason most Muslims aren't homicidal maniacs is that they don't take their religion as seriously as they might. A genuine religion of peace cannot have extremists. A genuine religion of peace would not have any passages in its scriptures that could be construed as sanctioning or calling for violence. A couple of months ago, not for the first time, somebody else asserted that Islam is intrinsically a violent religion and went down in flames, just as you will. However, that's not good enough. Please refer to the previous discussions in the list archives (Fw: Allah or Jesus?), and unless you have something further to offer, withdraw your comments about Islam's allegedly violent nature. Re Harris, eg: http://www.alternet.org/story/46196/ AlterNet: Sam Harris's Faith in Eastern Spirituality and Muslim Torture By John Gorenfeld, AlterNet. Posted January 5, 2007. Keith Previous message in full: Hello again David Sorry, I gave the wrong url for Andrew Brown's article, here's the correct one: http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/article_details.php?id=7803 Reviews: 'Dawkins the dogmatist' by Andrew Brown | Prospect Magazine October 2006 issue 127 Keith Addison wrote: KA weak, so I didn't post it. Andrew Brown (an ex-colleague at The KA Independent) is more reasoned, worth posting. I didn't know you used to write for The Independent, it's the second best British daily. Well, whatever. I've written for most of them, and I was also a staffer at The Independent for a couple of years. Staffers tend to chuckle a bit at its august claims. I stopped reading the online version a long time ago because with half of the articles there's a short summary and then you have to pay a quid to read the whole thing. I don't read the online version either, but you can usually find the articles in full without paying, even if it's a few days later. KA You're mistaken if you think I necessarily agree with news pieces I KA post here. OK, point taken. KA I'm a journalist, after all. Does it inform? Does it KA broaden the debate? Does it add depth? In this case I think it does, KA so I posted it. The article doesn't add anything to the debate. It does. To give an example: The God Delusion trumpets the fact that its author was recently voted one of the world's three leading intellectuals. This survey took place among the readers of Prospect magazine in November 2005. So what did this same Prospect magazine make of the book? Its reviewer was shocked at this incurious, dogmatic, rambling, and self-contradictory book. The title of the review? Dawkins the dogmatist. That's from McGrath's piece, it makes a valid point. You're looking at the atheist vs religionist debate itself, but it's not the arguments per se so much as the situation that's changed - it's secularists who're attacking Dawkins now, not just religionists. Yet you offer him and his attackable book as an antidote to creationist extremism. The tedious atheists also commit atrocities line is wheeled out time and time again, as if it effectively countered the assertion that religion is harmful. It's nothing new. Attacking Dawkins for failing to explain the persistence of religion in the face of rationality is scraping the barrel. That wasn't the primary intention of The God Delusion. KA actually I think the whole KA religionist vs atheist tussle misses the mark. A disturbingly large percentage of the population of the world's economically and militarily most powerful country, which is also the world's biggest emitter of greenhouse gases, seriously believe that a mythical being called Jesus will during their lifetimes descend from the clouds like a superhero and escort his true believers to heaven and then destroy the planet and the rest of of humanity with it. These people therefore don't have the slightest interest in doing anything about environment/climate issues. Religion is relevant. Yes, yes, David, and if you dig back a little (or a lot) you'll find that the first and main source of information here about that has been me. Eg:
Re: [Biofuel] It's clean air vs. TV in poor India village
Ok, with all due respect, you both have solved one problem, but can you still hear the birdsong? I speak both specifically and metaphorically, so try not to get too cute with me, ok, Miss Grundy? Rufus - Original Message - From: A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] It's clean air vs. TV in poor India village I also - runs great on B100 - I use it at work for portable power... - Original Message - From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 7:08 AM Subject: [Biofuel] It's clean air vs. TV in poor India village I have one of these - I run it on biodiesel. -Weaver BAHARBARI, India: A toxic purple haze of diesel exhaust hangs over the rice and jute fields here in northern India, and bird songs are frequently drowned out by the chug-a-chug-a- chug of diesel generators. Across the developing world, cheap diesel generators from China and elsewhere have become a favorite way to make electricity. They power everything from irrigation pumps to television sets, allowing growing numbers of rural villages in many poor countries to grow more crops and connect to the wider world. But as the demand increases for the electricity that makes those advances possible, it is often being met through the dirtiest, most inefficient means, creating pollution problems in many remote areas that used to have pristine air and negligible emissions of carbon dioxide, the main global warming gas. http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/01/08/business/village.php?page=1 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
