[Biofuel] Test Batch Success......Thanks Keith
Finally after many months of failed or mediocre wash test results I am achieving quick and clean separation of unwashed biodiesel(wvo) and water with a paper thin white layer, and all this as a result of the useful and encouraging information and instructions provided by JTF! To any of you who are about to take on the task of making quality biodiesel pay attention to Keith's emphasis on taking one's time to learn the process. I must relay and repeat how important accurate titration, quality catalyst, proper heat control, and proper agitation are for successful wvo test batches. Regarding titration I started out with a good digital scale and pH meter, but poor volume measurement instruments(2ml eyedroppers) resulted in too much catalyst = failed wash test. Free 1ml graduated syringes work beautifully. Regarding catalyst, initially I purchased at a small department store a 3kg tub of lye that turned out to be poorly sealed resulting in = failed test batches. Quality KOH measured out while in clear plastic bags has proved to work much better. In the test batch processing department, I went through 2 leaky blenders before I put together a permanent system much like the one on JTF that relies on consistent heat and agitation. Combined, these variables have inevitably led to complete reactions that are washed free from emulsions. Now on to scaling up. Thanks to Keith and anyone else that has contributed information on the JTF website. Peace Marc ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Anhydrous potassium hydroxide(?)
Hello all I recently purchased a 20kg bag of 90% flake KOH that, IF I have my facts correct, has some conflicting information on the label. It says "Potassium hydroxide-anhydrous" followed by some safety info, then at the bottom of the label it lists the contents of the bag as; potassium hydroxide and water. I thought anhydrous meant without water. I conducted a search online of the manufacturer to gather info but nothing turned up. In anyone's expert opinion is this something I need to be concerned about? Thanks Marc ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Thoughts on the Bush Admninistation
9/11 happened before the war on terror ... Formerly known as the cold war, or the Vietnam war. Empires will always have perceived enemies to attempt conquering. Bobby if you have the time, clear your mind and watch this 3 part BBC documentary. http://www.archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmares Many people feel America's wars/invasions have an agenda that acts contrary to your reasoning of sending a message. One of your presidents warned against it in his farewell speech decades ago. War is business. Here is a link to an award winning American film on the subject. http://www.sonyclassics.com/whywefight/ Peace Marc ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Cooking oil isn't just for diesels anymore
As previously mentioned on this forum, vegetable oil is also being used as an insulator/dielectric in transformers and other electrical equipment utilized by energy utilities. http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/23224/ http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/34615/ (not sure if that is the proper way to post a link to the archives) Marc ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] KOH cost discrepancies
Hello folks For those with experience in the.pricing out and purchasing of KOH, is it common place for one chemical company(Univar) to be selling 90% pure flake @ $2.78 per kg, and the next company(Anachemia) to be selling 85% pure pellets(ACS certified) @ $28.50 per kg? What prices are you fine homebrew folks paying? In order to produce quality biodiesel, is it best to buy VERY expensive KOH? Any help appreciated. Marc ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] White LYE
Hi folks Whilst on the subject of lye..I recently purchased a 3kg container(hardware store), and my concern is the hard clump that I found upon opening the container for the first time. I've used this lye successfully in several 1 litre test batches, but I'm not so sure about a 100litre batch. Any thoughts? Thanks Marc ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Stand-pipe in processor or hold tank
Hello Keith I'm a bd amateur embarking on the construction of a 55gal drum processor(single-stage base method) and I like the idea of using a stand-pipe in the processor and hold tank in order to minimize mixing the by-product and biodiesel once its time for washing. You have calculated your stand-pipe to access only the biodiesel layer, yes? I understand that there is no set amount of by-product, but could the same system be implemented for a single-stage base method processor? Could one take a chance on say, 30% by-product(just an example) and size the stand-pipe accordingly? Thanks for any advice Marc ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Re: How many trees were killed to build your home?
Joe, Halkan I as well have sensed the doom and gloom attitude from Suzuki, there is no denying it. But I think in recent years it has shifted to a more positive approach of trying to make a difference by offering solutions. I think "depend" was maybe the wrong choice of words to describe the role salmon play in a bears life. I was referring to the population(percentage) of bears that reside on B.C's coast and islands such as Haida Gwaii(small geographical area) that feed mainly on salmon. Below is a snippet of info taken from a parks Canada website pointing out the importance of salmon in their diet. The importance lies in the timing of salmon runs that provide much needed fat for their long hibernation. In my opinion, if these salmon were extirpated due to industrial logging, many of the bears would go hungry. "Black bear The most important source of food for bears in Haida Gwaii is salmon. Bears can take from 45% to 80% of the total population of chum, but the majority of salmon taken by bears are spawned out females. Bears eat on average 13 salmon a day in Gwaii Haanas." http://www.pc.gc.ca/pn-np/bc/gwaiihaanas/toile-web/toile-web3b_E.asp The idea that clearcutting is beneficial to bears sounds similar to someone arguing that oil development is beneficial for caribou. In the long run destroying a large mammals habitat WILL have a negative impact. More info below that addresses the short term benefits of clearcuts. "The spirit bear is threatened because much of its home range has already been logged, and a good portion of the remainder is slated for the same fate. While logging creates some short-term benefits for bears (for example, one of bears' foods, berries, grow in clearcuts), the long-term consequences of industrial logging are very serious. For example, the loss of big trees that provide dens for bears means they will not have adequate protection for hibernating through the wet, cold winters, nor adequate protection from the storms that howl in from the Pacific Ocean." http://www.savespiritbear.org/project/spiritbear/about_bear/science_info.html#scientists Take care Marc ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Re: How many trees were killed to build your home ?
Hi Joe Possibly I am blinded by fear mongering and misinformation by folks like David Suzuki. Could you please provide me with some examples and evidence of this misinformation. Here is a link to the David Suzuki Foundation.. http://www.davidsuzuki.org/Forests/Solutions/ Maybe I have misunderstood your opinions, but there doesn't seem to exist much of a distinction between your views of current forestry practises and that of what David Suzuki preaches(which you do not like). You cite clearcutting as a negative, selective logging as an ecologically sustainable method of harvesting, and protecting old growth forests as beneficial. If you choose to use the provided link, you will find the same sentiments. Clearcutting results in a more plentiful food supply for bears... is not totally accurate. What about the percentage of bears that depend on salmon for food? As you previously pointed out, clearcutting causes soil erosion. Sediment is washed into streams and rivers which results in disrupted salmon spawning grounds. I would guess that this has a negative effect on bears that rely on salmon as a food source. Possibly this could result in a bear attempting to break into someone's home for food. I certainly do not want to see all logging in our country put to and end. Just a sustainable system put into place. Of interest, which many are probably aware of, the Forest Stewardship Council provides/sets sustainable standards and practises that forestry product manufacturers can meet in order to meet FSC certification. If you will be purchasing lumber in the future, investigate FSC's policies. It may be a better option for you. http://www.fsc.org/en/about Peace Marc ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Salvaged ball valves
Hello Keith While perusing your site, I noticed you have implemented salvaged ball valves in your system. I have salvaged several and was wondering if you cleaned them in any particular manner? Thank you Marc ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] RE: General Motors Layoffs(.....and everything else)
Hi Keith Inherent human laziness and egoism are a woefully inadequate explanation for corporate predation Absolutely. If I have somehow conveyed this through my words, I will work more carefully in the future to be more clear. Whatever your intention, you didn't talk about many aspects of human character My intention was to say that I think we are responsible for the poor decisions we make that may introduce negativity into our/others lives. I made the mistake of connecting this to the corporate issue. I cited laziness and egoism as barriers of people taking responsibility for their own actions. I don't think I needed to point out the many other inherent qualities that exist in people to express my opinion. Of course human laziness and egoism play a role, but it's essentially a secondary role Point taken. That's what my reply was all about. Thank you. ...hide behind the smokescreen and continue with what they see as business as usual, to everybody's detriment. ..and therefore the greater is the PR and message-massage factor, the more people tend to think this way, that it's human frailties that are to blame Pharmaceutical companies come to mind. Shiny commercials with green glowing butterflies lit by the moon selling sleep deprivation relief in the form of a pill. Pills pills pills. No disrespect to folks who need pharmaceuticals, but to me it seems the industry is out of control. If there existed more adverts directed at preventative maintenance, would there be an increase in healthy humans? Therefore a decrease in pharmaceutical quarterly profits? Where does the responsibility sit here, pharma giants for their persuasive ads, or people for believing they need a silver pill for a symptom? ( I take no offence if someone picks this example apart). I'm interested to know whether you read some of the articles I linked in my response. Like these: Ah yes. I had some time to skim through most. More knowledge. And who is to be punished - the ad firms themselves or just a few individual employee scapegoats, as per usual? Thankfully one is THE head of a communication company in question. Some hope perhaps? http://www.interfacesustainability.com/pdf/action.pdf Take care Marc ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] RE: General Motors Layoffs(.....and everything else)
Hello Keith In regards to the hot coffee myth, I should have thoroughly researched before citing it as an example. Having read the provided link, I see that responsibility was placed where it belonged. I did not intend to convey the notion that corporations are human. I do understand the bottom line pathological mentality of corporations, but still, I cannot help but wish it was balanced with some ethics. If decision makers/shareholders were prosecuted for some of the serious crimes committed against humanity and the earth, maybe there would be second thoughts. I do not see anything wrong with holding decision making individuals in a corporation accountable for wrongdoings. The Canadian government along with some private ad firms are currently involved in an inquiry to reveal the people responsible for millions in taxpayer money that was given with little discretion to government friendly ad firms to divert a separation of one of our provinces. So far three people face fraud charges, hopefully others to follow. In your opinion is something wrong with this? http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/groupaction/ I don't think it's a touchy word here. Yikes, I was joking. I think we've always known that, or at least some of us have. Is this intended to say that I shouldn't have bothered to post this on the forum? I was not my intention to quote/state it as if no one was aware of it. I am simply re-educating myself(and anyone else who may be interested) in public. It's not inherent human laziness and egoism that prevents the essential creative self criticism and reconstruction from taking place, it's the disastrous disempowerment that's been a major and intended result of the industrial-duty persuasion that's been chucked at us since birth, and this view of inherent human selfishness and irresponsibility is a part of that. It keeps you blinded and helpless and looking in the wrong direction. Thank you for the additional perspective. But is it ok that I think human laziness and egoism DO play a role? Is it ok that I think we have a part in the prevention of creative self critism and reconstruction? I disagree is not the same as You're wrong. Of course with human nature you'll find what you set out to find- Through travel, interaction, and observation I'm appreciative to have had the experience of seeing many aspects of human character. As I am sure we all have. I appreciate that you do not agree with my statement; I think humans inherent laziness.., but please don't tell me that my intention is to only see the laziness and egoism in people. Putting forth one's opinions and having them scrutinized can always be a learning experience. One I never hope to miss. Now, I must continue the construction of my strawbale shed that will house my biodiesel processor. I can't wait! Peace Marc ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] RE: General Motors Layoffs(.....and everything else)
Gustl Are we that stupid? What are we going to blame? We have demonstrated an amazing capability for screwing up a good thing. My sentiments exactly. We certainly appear to live in an age of irresponsibility. On a personal level this is exemplified by cases of individuals spilling coffee on themselves, resulting in filed lawsuits. Parents that neglect their children and solely blame video games/music for violence that may follow. This mindset obviously transcends the individual to the collective(whole nations, governments, and corporations etc) in which it takes on a very destructive role and effects us all. Transnational corporations routinely failing to accept responsibility for lost lives(Union Carbide-Bhopal, India), damage to our ecosystem(too many depressing examples to point out), and lost jobs(GM etc, etc) are but a few examples of collective irresponsibility. It seems no matter what the situation, people will always find someone or something to point a finger at. In many scenarios, taking responsibility involves admitting one made a mistake or error in judgement. Admitting to a mistake or error in judgement involves introspection. This introspection will usually reveal a distortion in one's perception. If the mistake is to not be repeated, a change must be made. This all requires mental work. I think humans inherent laziness and egoism prevents this creative self criticism and reconstruction from taking place. To roughly quote David Suzukiits like we are all in a vehicle travelling at 1000miles/hour headed toward a brick wall, we are nearing the point where soon it will be too late to stop, and we're all arguing about who gets to sit at the front. We have somehow acquired/been given this wonderful gift of consciousness who's potential has not even begun to reveal itself. Through new technologies and traditional bodies of knowledge we are just beginning to see that this universe is one in which everything is interconnected. If we could just clear our minds and get past the ME, me, me, me, ME, me, me, me voice that moves through our scattered thoughts like an endless train(which I'm sure helped us survive during the Neanderthal era), then maybe we'll begin to evolve(oh, touchy word here) in positive collective direction. I do most certainly believe WE have the choice. Peace Marc ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Re: Canada reaches GHG emission agreement with automakers(bonus info)
H cynicism comes to mind. The last 2 institutions I would ever expect to do anything in regards to our GHG emissions(voluntarily at that) are our government and the auto industry. The only remaining question, what WAS the agreement signed on..1 ply or 2? http://www.davidsuzuki.org/Campaigns_and_Programs/Climate_Change/News_Releases/newsclimatechange04130501.asp *Canada's climate change plan lacks teeth **April 13, 2005* *OTTAWA -* Canada's climate change plan lets big polluters off the hook and doesn't send a strong message to industry that our economy must become cleaner and more efficient to compete in the global marketplace, says the David Suzuki Foundation. The plan is incomplete and it has some major flaws, but at least we now have a plan, said Dale Marshall, the Suzuki Foundation's Ottawa-based policy analyst. The government now needs to urgently move on emission reductions and 'learn by doing.' Released in Ottawa today, the federal government's plan lacks detailed targets and timelines and offers no criteria to measure success or failure. Ottawa is not sending industry the message that Kyoto will be good for business, said Mr. Marshall. By bending over backwards to make targets for large polluting industries so low, the federal government puts a disproportionately large burden on Canadians. And industry still lacks the necessary push to modernize. The Kyoto Protocol, which entered into force in February, requires Canada to cut its emissions by six per cent by 2010. Canada's industrial sector is responsible for close to 50 per cent of Canada's total greenhouse gas emissions, but the plan asks Canada's large industrial sector to cut greenhouse gas emissions by just 36 megatonnes. And even then, there will be almost no net decrease in emissions from heavy industry because their emissions are already 29 megatonnes above what was originally expected. Even though individual Canadians are only responsible for about 28 per cent of Canada's emissions, they may end up being responsible for at least 74 per cent of emission reductions according to the current version of the plan. As it stands, instead of a one-tonne challenge, the federal government is now basically asking Canadians to shoulder a six-tonne burden, said Mr. Marshall. That's obviously not fair. This plan needs some serious work if we to meet our Kyoto targets in an equitable manner that sets up our industries to be competitive in the 21st century. Mr. Marshall points out that meeting Canada's Kyoto target is a huge opportunity to make Canada a cleaner, more efficient and more competitive nation. There are huge opportunities in the industrial sector to reduce emissions, create jobs and make money at the same time, he said. Canada needs to strengthen its plan take advantage of them. The Suzuki Foundation is calling on the federal government to strengthen the Kyoto plan by: * Establishing targets and timelines for each of the programs in the plan so the federal government can judge whether implementation is successful * Setting up a system of accountability and transparency: Canadians need to know what progress is being made on emissions reductions and whether we are on track to meet Kyoto or not. They also need to make sure that money is not being wasted anywhere * Creating higher, regulated - not voluntary - targets for large industry *Read a **joint statement on Canada's climate change plan* http://www.davidsuzuki.org/files/climate/KyotoLeadersStatement.pdf* from leading Canadian environmental organizations*/./ // *Read the Suzuki Foundation's analysis http://www.davidsuzuki.org/files/climate/Ontario/Climate_Change_Plan_2005.pdf of the plan.* ** *For more information, call:* Dale Marshall Policy analyst, climate change program David Suzuki Foundation, Ottawa (819) 483-9890 or cell: (613) 302-9913 Morag Carter Director, climate change program David Suzuki Foundation, Vancouver (604) 732-4228 or cell: (778) 386-144 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Re: A quest to ruin the Earth
Wow, This information sounds SO drastic. I will imediatly build a time machine and return to a time when there was no offshore drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. The increased harvest of commercial fish that is now happening must be stopped. I will tell the People on their soap boxes that were saying death to the sea if we drill there that the narrow minded people of the future are here to help them stop the drilling. I will also buy a large supply of plugs and go around the world plugging the cracks in the earth that leak the equivalent of TWO Exxon Valdeese tankers of oil into the sea every day. I now see that this is killing the world. Farmer Paul A beautifully formulated response teeming with evidence to substantiate the notion that burning oil is a vital requirement for life to continue(if we were in the 5th grade). I really don't think I should spend the 2 minutes it takes to research and acquire facts to refute your ridiculous testimony of, oil, it does a body good. But I will anyway. http://www.offshore-environment.com/abandonment.html http://www.healthygulf.org/fisheries/threats.htm In particular, observations in the Gulf of Mexico revealed a strong positive correlation between the amount of oil platforms, growing since the 1950s, and commercial fish catches in the region. It became one of the reasons to suggest the positive impact of offshore oil and gas developments on the fish populations and stock. Wide popularization of this fact led to the mass movement using the slogan From rigs - to reefs in the USA in the mid-1980s. However, further analyses of the fishing situation in the Gulf of Mexico showed that the growth of the fish catch in this case was connected not with increasing the total stock and abundance of commercial species but with their redistribution due to the reef effect of the platforms. A critical point here was the use of static gear methods of fishing (e.g., lines and hooks) instead of trawl gears. Besides, the areas around the platforms became very popular places of recreational and sport fishing. This also made a significant contribution to the total catch volumes.. Pursuant to the Sustainable Fisheries Act of 1996, the National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov) must publish a Report to the United States Congress http://www.gulfcouncil.org/downloads/Status%20of%20Fisheries%202001a.pdf on the status of our nation's fisheries resources. This report assesses the condition of the 905 managed fish species in U.S. waters. Of these 905 species, the report finds that 72 are being taken at a rate that this higher than can be sustained (overfishing), 92 are below a level that scientists consider healthy (overfished), and the status of 709 species (78.3 percent) is unknown. Thus, for the species on which we have scientific information, about 50 percent are either undergoing overfishing, currently overfished, or approaching an overfished condition, meaning that they will become overfished in two years if no action is taken. In the Gulf region, the Gulf of Mexico Fishery Management Council http://www.gulfcouncil.org has 57 species under its direct management. Of these 57 species, over half of the species we have information for (6 out of 10) are considered overfished. This list includes red snapper http://www.healthygulf.org/fisheries/red%20snapper%20FS.PDF, red grouper http://www.healthygulf.org/fisheries/Red%20Grouper%20FS.PDF, red drum, Nassau grouper http://www.healthygulf.org/fisheries/NASSAU%20GROUPER%20FS.pdf, goliath grouper http://www.healthygulf.org/fisheries/GOLIATH%20GROUPER%20FS.pdf and greater amberjack http://www.healthygulf.org/fisheries/Amberjack%20FS.PDF. Gag grouper is considered approaching an overfished condition. Furthermore, four out of eight species in the Gulf region are also subject to overfishing. These include red http://www.healthygulf.org/fisheries/red%20snapper%20FS.PDF snapper http://www.healthygulf.org/fisheries/red%20snapper.pub, red grouper http://www.healthygulf.org/fisheries/Red%20Grouper%20FS.PDF, gag grouper, and vermilion snapper. The majority of Gulf species (47) are considered of unknown status. NMFS http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov also directly manages a number of species in the Gulf region including sharks, tuna, and billfish. Of these species, all of the billfish for which we have information are overfished, including blue marlin, white marlin, and sailfish. Three out of the four tuna species in the Gulf are overfished, including bigeye tuna, albacore and bluefin tuna. Finally, 16 out of the 22 shark species for which information is available are considered overfished. These include sandbar, blacktip, dusky, spinner, silky, bull, Caribbean reef, tiger, lemon, sand tiger, bigeye sand tiger, nurse, scalloped hammerhead, great hammerhead, whale, and white sharks. Thus, of the 29 fish species for which scientific
[Biofuel] Re: A quest to ruin the Earth
Please do not Quote items form THE VAST MAJORITY OF AMERICANS I am one American why does not like the EXTREME hog wast spewed by todays enviromentalist. Have you ever seen the area to be used for oil development. It is a vast frozen desert. Talk about the destruction of the environment sounds like the talk about the caribou when the Alaska pipe line was built. We now have MORE Caribou than before the pipeline. Don't make such wild accusations. They are beginning to sound like background noise. FArmer Paul/ / Heeere's some more EXTREME hog wast for ya, FArmer Paul, from the US Fish Wildlife Service(surely they must be incompetent scientists/conservationists.as you so vehemently pointed out to us). http://arcticcircle.uconn.edu/ANWR/anwr_fws.htm /Although the population of caribou (Central Arctic herd) in the vicinity of North Slope oil fields increased in the early years of oil field development, the herd has declined since 1992. The Porcupine Caribou is expected to decrease in the face of 1002 Area development. There are fundamental differences between the calving areas of these two herds. In the case of the Central Arctic herd, there is a greater amount of alternative calving area available for displaced cows to move to because the mountains are much farther from the ocean. The 1002 Area is only one-fifth the size of the area used by the Central Arctic caribou herd, but six times as many caribou use the 1002 Area. In the Arctic Refuge, where the mountains are close to the coast, few alternative areas would be available for displaced cows. Therefore, development in the 1002 Area would result in: / * /reduction in the amount and quality of preferred forage available during and after calving, / * /restricted access to important coastal insect-relief habitats, / * /exposure of the herd to higher predation, and / * /alteration of an ancient migratory pattern, the effects of which we can not predict / /Data from the Alaska Department of Conservation show that the Trans-Alaska and Prudhoe Bay oil fields have had an annual average of 409 spills since 1996 of everything from crude oil to acid. Current oil operations in Alaska's North Slope every year emit about 56,427 tons of nitrous oxides, which cause smog and acid rain, and release up to 110,000 tons of methane, a greenhouse gas that contributes to global warming (Boston Globe 2001). The Prudhoe Bay Complex also emits 11,400,000 metric tons of carbon to the atmosphere per year (Brooks et al. 1997). This amount is equivalent to the per capita emissions of approximately two million individuals in the United States. / It is a vast frozen desert Thats too bad that your narrow-mindedness does not allow for life to thrive in an Arctic environment. Such an ignorant view is completely contrary to the truth. Some more hog wast /In fact, according to FWS, the Arctic Refuge coastal plain contains the greatest wildlife diversity of any protected area above the Arctic Circle. //The caribou are by no means the only wildlife populations in the Arctic Refuge. The area's large mammals also include grizzly bears, polar bears, Dall sheep, wolves, moose, and a herd of rare muskoxen./ /The Arctic Refuge's coastal plain provides the most important land denning habitat for the Beaufort Sea polar bear population //135 species of birds are known to use the 1002 Area... //About 250 muskoxen live year-round in the 1002 area of the Arctic Refuge.../ You see FArmer Paul, conservationists and environmentalists are simply fighting to preserve that which SUPPORTS life; a healthy Earth. This is common sense. Why you aggressively disregard this, who knows? Do you not depend on clean air, water, and land for survival? Peace Marc / / ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] A quest to ruin the Earth
* SENATE PUTS OIL COMPANIES FIRST IN FIGHT OVER ARCTIC REFUGE* *Statement by NRDC Legislative Director Karen Wayland* WASHINGTON, D.C. (March 16, 2005) -- Today the U.S. Senate, by a vote of 49-51, defeated an amendment by Sen. Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.) that would have removed a provision of the Senate budget bill that authorizes energy development in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. The following is a statement by Karen Wayland, legislative director at NRDC (Natural Resources Defense Council). Drilling the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge won't make a dent in gas prices at the pump or break our dependence on Middle East oil. This was really a vote for Big Oil, not for the solid majority of Americans who oppose turning America's last great wilderness into a vast, polluted oil field. President Bush and his Senate allies resorted to a sneaky budget maneuver to get their way. Now, Congress is one step closer to trading away an irreplaceable national treasure for a few drops of oil that we wouldn't see for a decade or more. If the oil industry can drill in the Arctic Refuge, then no place, no matter how pristine, will be safe. But there is still a lot of political tundra to cross before this fight is over. We'll keep battling every step of the way. Increasing America's energy security doesn't require selling off our natural heritage and letting oil companies despoil our last best places. Using better technology in our cars and trucks -- so they go farther on a gallon of gas -- would save more than 10 times the amount of oil in the refuge, and save consumers billions of dollars at the pump. The Natural Resources Defense Council is a national, nonprofit organization of scientists, lawyers and environmental specialists dedicated to protecting public health and the environment. Founded in 1970, NRDC has more than 1 million members and online activists nationwide, served from offices in New York, Washington, Los Angeles and San Francisco. To all Americans on the Biofuel list(I am assuming you've joined this list due to your distaste of oil companies); join NRDC and take action against drilling in Alaska. Write your senatorsdo something, please! Peace Marc ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap
Kyoto is based on mostly Junk Science. Kyoto is going to be economic suicide.. Just random thoughts? It certainly takes a noble man to enlighten us all with these profound, random thoughts.thoughts that bring to light the foolishness of those that even DARED believe that humans have an influence on our ecosystem(what a bunch of stupid scientist, eh Mark?). Let me tell you what IS going to be suicide to our beloved economy, to destroy that which creates it. There IS no economy without ecology! If this concept is foreign to you, you should not be commenting on this or any other forum that is attempting to accomplish something positive in our world. I cringe at what your well organized thoughts might reveal. Peace Marc ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
