RE: [Biofuel] etanol:gasoline ratio
Thanks Peggy. Both you, Chico and Arttu agree that the heating value of 1 litre ethanol equals 0,67 to 0,70 litre gasolin, but there seems to be a problem to get the reciprocal value. I agree with Arttu that 1 litre gasoline equals 1,43-1,49 litre ethanol (1/0,7 - 1/0,67). In my opinion the advantage of higher combustion efficiency of Biofuels should go to the Biofuels and not to the fossil industry and tax authorities, so I will recommend that the tax rate is calculated based on the heating value without considering octan boost for ethanol and faster heat release for biodiesel and SVO. Best regards niels -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peggy Sent: 8. januar 2005 04:57 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] etanol:gasoline ratio Subject: Re: [Biofuel] etanol:gasolin ratio Niels Using energy as the key indicator == we can say ( roughly) ethanol has about 30%to 33% less energy than gasoline. So ethanol unit price per volume has to be 30% to 33% less than gasoline ( grossly ) in the event you use monetary definition. Using energy == energetically speaking 1 liter of gasoline has the same amount of energy of 1,30 liters of ethanol to 1,33 liters of ethanol. Ethanol has more octane than gasoline this is why it can be used as octane booster. Very best for us Chico The information that was reported in the above-mentioned, recent comment about ethanol may be a bit deceptive: I asked a few questions from ethanol users and was given the following answer. If it does not concur with your calculations or information, then we may need to consider the value in a different or relative manner. But in this new context, it seems to offer a more equal value in btu's and therefore a more equal replacement value. On a strictly stoichiometric calculation, ethanol has about 75% of the btu of gasoline per gallon. However, ethanol is burned at 100% in the engine, while gasoline leaves about 20% unburned (that has to be cleaned up by the catalytic converter). Net result is that ethanol gets almost the same power to the wheels as gasoline, and in some cases maybe a little more, since the higher octane rating improves the power output curve from the btu I also asked about biolubricants to use in 2 cycle engines and was given the following reply: The best lubricant for 2-cycle use is Castor oil. You can buy it at any pharmacy and it is soluble in ethanol. Add about 2 oz per gallon. And again, there may be more information that differs. This just sounds very easy and convenient. Hope that this helps. Best wishes, Peggy ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] storing vegetable oil
Hi Ken -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ken murphy Sent: 6. januar 2005 15:34 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Biofuel] storing vegetable oil Thanks Niels, How cold is cold? I live in a rather warm environment. Would 25 degrees celsius be cool enough? Sorry, I meant cool not cold(thanks Kemp for correction), so keep in shadow or as cool as possible. What do you do when you find a grease layer like the one you referenced. Is it difficult to rememdy? Didn«t do anything. It«s first time I noticed grease, and it was related to the 3 years old rape seed oil. In future I will avoid such old oil, and say max 1-2 years. Regarding seasonal considerations (cultivation) 1 year should be enough. Niels ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] Jatropha
www.malifolkecenter.org they have experience and can supply niels Denmark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of crystal wormald Sent: 4. januar 2005 09:21 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] Jatropha Hello everyone! I want to find out if there is a market for Jatropha nuts (for bio-fuel) within Australia and if so how do I go about planting my own crop so to say? I want to plant htem from cuttings as I have found out that this way has a higher survival rate than that of crops started from seeds. I need to know where I would purchase a Jatropha plant or if there is a supplier who I can purchase clippings from. How does one go about this? Who might one talk to about this? Does anyone have a clue? I've been searching for months now with no success Frustrated~! Crystal, WA ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] etanol:gasolin ratio
How much bio ethanol do you need for direct replacement of one litre gasoline(B100) Kind regards Niels dk ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] etanol:gasolin ratio
Thanks a lot Chico I asked because our government charges mineral oil tax for all Biofuels. The tax is calculated litre to litre and related to the fossil fuel we substitute. So SVO and Biodiesel is taxed like sulphur free diesel, and ethanol I suppose like sulphur free gasoline. We work for 100% tax relief on Biofuels like in Germany, Sweden and some other countries, but until we get it, the taxed should be calculated in a fair way according to energy content and not volume. From 1/1 2005 we got rid of the CO2 tax on Biofuels. Sounds stupid, but it took 5-10 years. Best regards Niels DK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FRANCISCO Sent: 5. januar 2005 21:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] etanol:gasolin ratio Niels Using energy as the key indicator == we can say ( roughly) ethanol has about 30%to 33% less energy than gasoline. So ethanol unit price per volume has to be 30% to 33% less than gasoline ( grossly ) in the event you use monetary definition. Using energy == energetically speaking 1 liter of gasoline has the same amount of energy of 1,30 liters of ethanol to 1,33 liters of ethanol. Ethanol has more octane than gasoline this is why it can be used as octane booster. Very best for us Chico Niels Ans¿ wrote: How much bio ethanol do you need for direct replacement of one litre gasoline(B100) Kind regards Niels dk ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] storing vegetable oil
Hello Kemp Store it cold, dark and with limited access for atmospheric air(Oxygen). Then 1-2 years is no problem for new VO. We just used about 5000 litres 3 years old VO. Worked fine, but we observed some grease layer on Zink coated steel, like on the fuel level sensor in the tank, and a few water drops in when draining the fuel filter. I don«t know the reason for that, but it has only been observed with very old VO like this. Maybe somebody here can help on this question. Best regards Niels DK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ken murphy Sent: 5. januar 2005 17:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] storing vegetable oil If I want to use vegetable oil as fuel, I want to be able to have a month's supply in reserve. How well will vegetable oil store? How is it done? Will new and Used oil store the same? thanks Kemp __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] TDI Question
It's physically possible but a big job not less because the TDI engine is controlled by an EDC which you need to install as well as changing the instrument panel(speedometer). If it makes financial sense under your conditions I can not say. Here en Denmark some workshops do this conversion, and it makes financial sense because the TDI second hand prices are high and stable, but gasoline cars like the Passat Wagon with high mileage can be imported relative cheap from Germany. An important reason why it makes financial sence here is that we pay 180% tax on top of the price for all new and imported second hand passenger cars. Niels DK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Wendy Sent: 19. december 2004 15:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] TDI Question Hi Everyone! I am a station wagon kind of mom. I don't want to drop a lot of money on a new car, so purchasing a new Jetta or Passat wagon TDI is out of the question. Finding a used TDI wagon is very hard. I found some gasoline Passat wagons on auto trader for under $10,000. Could I purchase one of them and put a diesel engine in it? Is it physically possible? Does it make financial sense? Thanks! Wendy Adams Harrisburg, PA ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
