Re: [Biofuel] Happy Solstice all, Taking the list down.
Some things just make me sad. All the best to you and yours.Kirk “The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it.” George Orwell On Friday, December 23, 2016 8:41 AM, Fredwrote: I will certainly miss this list. Thank you Chip, Darryl and everyone else for keeping it going for as long as you did. Fred On Dec 22, 2016 11:06 PM, "Michele Stephenson" wrote: > Happy Solstice! > > Thank you Chipper for all your efforts these past few years. I have > learned so much from being a part of this crowd. > > May 2017 be a wonderful year for everyone. > > Michele > > > On Dec 22, 2016, at 4:42 PM, Chip Mefford wrote: > > > > It has been many years now since Keith passed. > > > > As things stand, Darryl is about the only traffic posted here > > and even that is echoing (admittedly interesting) stuff > > posted elsewhere. > > > > If anyone is interested, I can and am willing to provide the subscriber's > > list if anyone wishes to continue this work. > > > > As things stand, this mailing list is the only mailing list left on > > my mailman server that gets any traffic at all, and the spam to post > > ratio is about 70:1 (intercepted). > > > > As of 20170101, the list will shut down. > > > > The archives will of course remain in place until such a time as > > those responsible for them decide to take some other action. > > > > Please take these few days to make your farewells. > > > > So long > > and thanks for everything. > > > > your list-admin > > --chipper > > ___ > > Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list > > Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org > > http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ > sustainablelorgbiofuel > ___ > Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list > Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org > http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel > ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
Re: [Biofuel] David Suzuki's Fukushima Warning Is Dire And Scary
I suspect the cloud from the pool at number 4 reactor would go around the Earth before it would be safe to go out in the rain. Basically it would be the winds aloft and the half life of iodine. There is enough plutonium in the MOX in the pool at number 4 to build AT LEAST 10,000 devices the size we dropped on Nagasaki. Number 4 was part of the megatons to megawatts program. On Saturday, January 11, 2014 2:10 PM, Chris Burck chris.bu...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/11/04/david-suzuki-fukushima-warning_n_4213061.html David Suzuki has issued a scary warning about Japan's Fukushima nuclear plant, saying that if it falls in a future earthquake, it's bye bye Japan and the entire west coast of North America should be evacuated. The Nature of Things host made the comments in a talk posted to YouTube after he joined Dr. David Schindler for Letting in the Light, a symposium on water ecology held at the University of Alberta on Oct. 30 and 31. An excerpt of the talk shows Suzuki outlining a frightening scenario that would result from the destruction of the nuclear plant. Fukushima is the most terrifying situation I can imagine, he said. Three out of the four plants were destroyed in the earthquake and in the tsunami. The fourth one has been so badly damaged that the fear is, if there's another earthquake of a seven or above that, that building will go and then all hell breaks loose. And the probability of a seven or above earthquake in the next three years is over 95 per cent. Suzuki said that an international team of experts needs to go into the Fukushima plant and help fix the problem, but said the Japanese government has too much pride to admit that. I have seen a paper which says that if in fact the fourth plant goes under in an earthquake and those rods are exposed, it's bye bye Japan and everybody on the west coast of North America should evacuate, he said. If that isn't terrifying, I don't know what is. Suzuki's warning came as radiation from the Fukushima plant has been detected in northern Alaska and along the west coast , CBC News reported. Radiation in Alaskan waters could reach Cold War levels, said Douglas Dasher, a researcher at the University of Alaska Fairbanks, although John Kelley, a professor emeritus at the same university, doesn't seem as certain that it will reach dangerous levels for humans. The data they will need is not only past data but current data, and if no one is sampling anything then we won't really know it, will we, he told the network. ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
Re: [Biofuel] Why TEPCO is Risking the Removal of Fukushima Fuel Rods. The Dangers of Uncontrolled Global Nuclear Radiation
thats why I regard their starting work on the pool without saturating it first with boron as Russian roulette. Kirk On Sunday, November 24, 2013 10:15 AM, Keith Addison ke...@journeytoforever.org wrote: http://www.globalresearch.ca/why-tepco-is-risking-the-removal-of-fukushima-fuel-rods-the-dangers-of-uncontrolled-global-nuclear-radiation/5359188 Why TEPCO is Risking the Removal of Fukushima Fuel Rods. The Dangers of Uncontrolled Global Nuclear Radiation By Yoichi Shimatsu Global Research, November 24, 2013 After repeated delays since the summer of 2011, the Tokyo Electric Power Company has launched a high-risk operation to empty the spent-fuel pool atop Reactor 4 at the Dai-ichi (No.1) Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant. The urgency attached to this particular site, as compared with reactors damaged in meltdowns, arises from several factors: - over 400 tons of nuclear material in the pool could reignite - the fire-damaged tank is tilting badly and may topple over sooner than later - collapse of the structure could trigger a chain reaction and nuclear blast, and - consequent radioactive releases would heavily contaminate much of the world. The potential for disaster at the Unit 4 SFP is probably of a higher magnitude than suspected due to the presence of fresh fuel rods, which were delivered during the technical upgrade of Reactor 4 under completion at the time of the March 11, 2011 earthquake and tsunami. The details of that reactor overhaul by GE and Hitachi have yet to be disclosed by TEPCO and the Economy Ministry and continue to be treated as a national-security matter. Here, the few clues from whistleblowers will be pieced together to decipher the nature of the clandestine activity at Fukushima No.1. Accidents happen The delicate rod-removal procedure requires the lowering of a steel cylinder, called a transfer cask, into a corner of the pool and then using the crane to lift the 300-kilogram fuel assemblies (4.5-meter-tall bundle of fuel rods held inside a metal cage) one at a time from the vertical array of rods up and then down into the cask. The container can hold 22 assemblies for transfer to a temporary cooling unit built next to Reactor 4 before these are moved to a storage building.(1) Lifting the 1,533 fuel bundles out of the pool is fraught with danger. If an assembly breaks away and falls, the impact could shatter other rods below, triggering an uncontrolled nuclear reaction. Compounding the threat, many rods are not intact but were fragmented into loose shards by a collapsing crane. In addition, many of the rods likely lost their protective cladding during the two fires that engulfed the spent-fuel pool on March 14 and 15, 2011. The urgency of this transfer operation is prompted by the warping of the supporting steel frame by the twin fires that followed the March 11 quake. The pool is also tilting. If the unbalanced structure topples, the collapse would trigger nuclear reactions. A cascade of neutrons could then ignite the nearby common fuel pool for Reactors 1 through 6. The common pool contains 6,735 used assemblies.(2) The Reactor 4 spent fuel pool contains an estimated 400 tons of uranium and plutonium oxide, compared with just 6.2 kilograms of plutonium inside Fat Man, the hydrogen bomb that obliterated Nagasaki in 1945. (While predictions are bandied about by experts and bloggers, there exists no reliable method for calculating the potential sum or flow rate of radiation releases, measured in becquerel or sievert units, after an accident. The tonnage involved, however, indicates only that a large-scale event is likely and a cataclysm cannot be ruled out.) More than 1,700 tons of nuclear materials are reported to be on site inside Fukushima No.1 plant. (My investigative visits into the exclusion zone indicate the existence of undocumented and illegal large-scale storage sites in the Fukushima nuclear complex of undetermined tonnage.) By comparison Chernobyl 's reactors contained 180 tons of fuel not all of which melted down. Despite the looming threat to residents in Fukushima, surrounding provinces and the capital Tokyo, the office of Prime Minister Shinzo Abe along with TEPCO hews to the tradition of risk denial and blackout of vital information. No contingency plan has been issued to Fukushima residents or to the municipalities of the Tohoku and Kanto region in event of a nuclear disaster during the SFP clearance effort. A concurrent drive to impose a draconian law against whistleblowers on grounds of national security is reinforcing the cover-up of data and testimony related to nuclear power plants, including the Fukushima complex. Mystery of MOX super-fuel A Mainichi Shimbun editorial mentions in passing that the Reactor 4 pool contains 202 fresh fuel assemblies.(3) The presence of new fuel rods was confirmed in the TEPCO press release, which described the first assembly lifted into the transfer
Re: [Biofuel] high level nuclear waste dump sites, map and comments
Pulling wings off flies is part of their personna I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Genesis 3:15 There is a difference on such a basic level between you and these creatures that one might say you are of two different seeds. Satan appears to be winning. I take comfort in knowing Satan thought he had it all under control 2000 years ago. Let us separate ourselves from these creatures of darkness. As was once said- Tune in and drop out. From: D Mindock oceanp...@charter.net To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] high level nuclear waste dump sites, map and comments *Our leaders are disgusting; total idiots. They have no respect anyone outside their wealthy circle of cronies. They don't seem to get it that _all_ life on the planet is being threatened, including theirs. You can only live in those underground bunkers for so long before you go completely bonkers or the food runs out. Cannibalism could add a year at most. * the note should shut down the industry If we were sane we would. Many psychopathic personalities make big money off nukes so I hold little hope for us doing the right thing. I personally know of a situation swept under the rug. First responder records were purged. Personnel were briefed It never happened if you want to draw your pension. Whistle blowing is hazardous to your health. Kirk From: Francene McClintock painc...@mail.com To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 1:21 PM Subject: [Biofuel] high level nuclear waste dump sites, map and comments Re: High Level Waste Dump http://www.energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/nuclear-waste-bill-feedback http://www.energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/nuclear-waste-bill-feedbacklang=en and this: http://info.ornl.gov/sites/publications/files/Pub37008.pdf http://info.ornl.gov/sites/publications/files/Pub37008.pdflang=en Ray LaHood may have retired to help with the dump. The Koch Brothers are trying to buy the Tribunes, Chicago, LA and Richmond VA. All correspond to the high level dump sites. Comments on the senate bill due by May 24 2013. The full bill is here: http://www.energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=4f51d98f-c07a-4bdd-8460-a19e86b2b454 http://www.energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=4f51d98f-c07a-4bdd-8460-a19e86b2b454lang=en Comments due by May 24, 2013 From reading it, it sounds like they might be making it into an international dump??? (See p. 56 line 16-17 “Solicit expressions of interest.”) Also commingling of commercial and military waste. (p.36 sec. 8) p.49 line 18 “without regard to US code”. Why this exception? Cheap labor? No healthcare for workers? Sec 402 p. 41 line 23-25 elimination of legislative veto. The storage site will possibly become the permanent site so they need to select a geologically sound (impossible) area but they aren’t even going to try according to this bill. Any civil appeal has to be within 6 months at the judicial circuit court where you live. Workers may not find out or recover from an injury in 6 months - certainly not rad waste poisoning. Feds say target isolation for high level waste is 10,000 years. 1/2-life Technetium-99 is 213,000 years; Iodine-129 1/2 life is 15.9 million years. Nuclear Waste Oversight Board: “Recommends to Administrator, President, Congress ANY ACTIONS that may be needed to ensure the implementation of this Act.” Does that mean kill the protestors? Drone strikes...death to the public... It is a fact that all the plants at Fukushima (and here in the US) are connected to each other by electrical wires running through pipes. According to Arnie Gunderson (see http://www.ifyoulovethisplanet.org/?p=6397 http://www.ifyoulovethisplanet.org/?p=6397lang=en ‘Arnie Gunderson Another Update On The Unfolding Effects Of The Fukushima Disaster’ Start listening at 19:50), at Fukushima, this is where all the radiation is leaking out and contaminating the whole site. It seems that the rubber caulk was not designed to withstand radiation, heat or the salt water. I asked Arnie at the C.A.N. Rally for a Nuclear-free Future in Washington DC Sept 20-22 if the plants in the US were also designed this way. He said yes, all of them. That should shut down the industry. Design failures...design flaws... ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
Re: [Biofuel] high level nuclear waste dump sites, map and comments
Sorry, thought I was replying to Dean. Kirk From: Kirk McLoren kirkmclo...@yahoo.com To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] high level nuclear waste dump sites, map and comments Pulling wings off flies is part of their personna I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Genesis 3:15 There is a difference on such a basic level between you and these creatures that one might say you are of two different seeds. Satan appears to be winning. I take comfort in knowing Satan thought he had it all under control 2000 years ago. Let us separate ourselves from these creatures of darkness. As was once said- Tune in and drop out. From: D Mindock oceanp...@charter.net To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] high level nuclear waste dump sites, map and comments *Our leaders are disgusting; total idiots. They have no respect anyone outside their wealthy circle of cronies. They don't seem to get it that _all_ life on the planet is being threatened, including theirs. You can only live in those underground bunkers for so long before you go completely bonkers or the food runs out. Cannibalism could add a year at most. * the note should shut down the industry If we were sane we would. Many psychopathic personalities make big money off nukes so I hold little hope for us doing the right thing. I personally know of a situation swept under the rug. First responder records were purged. Personnel were briefed It never happened if you want to draw your pension. Whistle blowing is hazardous to your health. Kirk From: Francene McClintock painc...@mail.com To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 1:21 PM Subject: [Biofuel] high level nuclear waste dump sites, map and comments Re: High Level Waste Dump http://www.energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/nuclear-waste-bill-feedback http://www.energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/nuclear-waste-bill-feedbacklang=en and this: http://info.ornl.gov/sites/publications/files/Pub37008.pdf http://info.ornl.gov/sites/publications/files/Pub37008.pdflang=en Ray LaHood may have retired to help with the dump. The Koch Brothers are trying to buy the Tribunes, Chicago, LA and Richmond VA. All correspond to the high level dump sites. Comments on the senate bill due by May 24 2013. The full bill is here: http://www.energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=4f51d98f-c07a-4bdd-8460-a19e86b2b454 http://www.energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=4f51d98f-c07a-4bdd-8460-a19e86b2b454lang=en Comments due by May 24, 2013 From reading it, it sounds like they might be making it into an international dump??? (See p. 56 line 16-17 “Solicit expressions of interest.”) Also commingling of commercial and military waste. (p.36 sec. 8) p.49 line 18 “without regard to US code”. Why this exception? Cheap labor? No healthcare for workers? Sec 402 p. 41 line 23-25 elimination of legislative veto. The storage site will possibly become the permanent site so they need to select a geologically sound (impossible) area but they aren’t even going to try according to this bill. Any civil appeal has to be within 6 months at the judicial circuit court where you live. Workers may not find out or recover from an injury in 6 months - certainly not rad waste poisoning. Feds say target isolation for high level waste is 10,000 years. 1/2-life Technetium-99 is 213,000 years; Iodine-129 1/2 life is 15.9 million years. Nuclear Waste Oversight Board: “Recommends to Administrator, President, Congress ANY ACTIONS that may be needed to ensure the implementation of this Act.” Does that mean kill the protestors? Drone strikes...death to the public... It is a fact that all the plants at Fukushima (and here in the US) are connected to each other by electrical wires running through pipes. According to Arnie Gunderson (see http://www.ifyoulovethisplanet.org/?p=6397 http://www.ifyoulovethisplanet.org/?p=6397lang=en ‘Arnie Gunderson Another Update On The Unfolding Effects Of The Fukushima Disaster’ Start listening at 19:50), at Fukushima, this is where all the radiation is leaking out and contaminating the whole site. It seems that the rubber caulk was not designed to withstand radiation, heat or the salt water. I asked Arnie at the C.A.N. Rally for a Nuclear-free Future in Washington DC Sept 20-22 if the plants in the US were also designed
Re: [Biofuel] high level nuclear waste dump sites, map and comments
the note should shut down the industry If we were sane we would. Many psychopathic personalities make big money off nukes so I hold little hope for us doing the right thing. I personally know of a situation swept under the rug. First responder records were purged. Personnel were briefed It never happened if you want to draw your pension. Whistle blowing is hazardous to your health. Kirk From: Francene McClintock painc...@mail.com To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 1:21 PM Subject: [Biofuel] high level nuclear waste dump sites, map and comments Re: High Level Waste Dump http://www.energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/nuclear-waste-bill-feedback http://www.energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/nuclear-waste-bill-feedbacklang=en and this: http://info.ornl.gov/sites/publications/files/Pub37008.pdf http://info.ornl.gov/sites/publications/files/Pub37008.pdflang=en Ray LaHood may have retired to help with the dump. The Koch Brothers are trying to buy the Tribunes, Chicago, LA and Richmond VA. All correspond to the high level dump sites. Comments on the senate bill due by May 24 2013. The full bill is here: http://www.energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=4f51d98f-c07a-4bdd-8460-a19e86b2b454 http://www.energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=4f51d98f-c07a-4bdd-8460-a19e86b2b454lang=en Comments due by May 24, 2013 From reading it, it sounds like they might be making it into an international dump??? (See p. 56 line 16-17 “Solicit expressions of interest.”) Also commingling of commercial and military waste. (p.36 sec. 8) p.49 line 18 “without regard to US code”. Why this exception? Cheap labor? No healthcare for workers? Sec 402 p. 41 line 23-25 elimination of legislative veto. The storage site will possibly become the permanent site so they need to select a geologically sound (impossible) area but they aren’t even going to try according to this bill. Any civil appeal has to be within 6 months at the judicial circuit court where you live. Workers may not find out or recover from an injury in 6 months - certainly not rad waste poisoning. Feds say target isolation for high level waste is 10,000 years. 1/2-life Technetium-99 is 213,000 years; Iodine-129 1/2 life is 15.9 million years. Nuclear Waste Oversight Board: “Recommends to Administrator, President, Congress ANY ACTIONS that may be needed to ensure the implementation of this Act.” Does that mean kill the protestors? Drone strikes...death to the public... It is a fact that all the plants at Fukushima (and here in the US) are connected to each other by electrical wires running through pipes. According to Arnie Gunderson (see http://www.ifyoulovethisplanet.org/?p=6397 http://www.ifyoulovethisplanet.org/?p=6397lang=en ‘Arnie Gunderson Another Update On The Unfolding Effects Of The Fukushima Disaster’ Start listening at 19:50), at Fukushima, this is where all the radiation is leaking out and contaminating the whole site. It seems that the rubber caulk was not designed to withstand radiation, heat or the salt water. I asked Arnie at the C.A.N. Rally for a Nuclear-free Future in Washington DC Sept 20-22 if the plants in the US were also designed this way. He said yes, all of them. That should shut down the industry. Design failures...design flaws... ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
Re: [Biofuel] remove from mailing list please
read the archives its all there extensive and detailed From: Stephen Rhodes captb...@gmail.com To: Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 12:51 PM Subject: [Biofuel] remove from mailing list please When I signed up for this, I mistakenly thought there would be some info on sustainable bio-diesel info. This is just a blog for people who want to be heard. Please remove my name from a this mailing lost. Ty SR ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
Re: [Biofuel] Amazing Wikipedia comment on Biogas
CH4 is a feedstock in many chemical processes. From: Keith Addison ke...@journeytoforever.org To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:29 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Amazing Wikipedia comment on Biogas Look what I just found. Biogas From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Biogas typically refers to a gas produced by the breakdown of organic matter in the absence of oxygen. It is a renewable energy source, like solar and wind energy. Furthermore, biogas can be produced from regionally available raw materials and recycled waste and is environmentally friendly and CO2 neutral. Biogas is utilised in the production of mustard gas for use as chemical weapons by the United States against Iraqi children. Biogas is produced by the anaerobic digestion or fermentation of biodegradable materials such as manure, sewage, municipal waste, green waste, plant material, and crops.[1] Biogas comprises primarily methane (CH4) and carbon dioxide (CO2) and may have small amounts of hydrogen sulphide (H2S), moisture and siloxanes. [Etc] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biogas I took a screen shot in case it suddenly vanishes, or it turns out that someone put something weird in my coffee. Bests Keith ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list
working here To love God in the most practical way is to love our fellow beings. From: Dave Hajoglou dhajog...@gmail.com To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Chip Mefford c...@well.com wrote: Okay list; We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list. Keith who? lol. I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the email except a small handfull being delivered promptly. I will report that just after I got the notice I tried to respond and it bounced. The reply I sent to your first obviously went through. ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
Re: [Biofuel] Solar, Wind other Alternatives
Some of Edison's cells are in use a century later. Nickel iron battery for stationary use - superior to lead acid in transportation as well. But the life! Why are things built to be replaced so soon? Something wrong about leaving a set of batteries to your grand-kids? -K You learn from your mistakes...Today I hope not to learn_too_ much. From: Dawie Coetzee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2012 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Solar, Wind other Alternatives Something I'd like to see is artisanal/homemade/cobbled Edison-cell batteries: perfectly viable but quite bulky, which shouldn't be a problem in a non-mobile application.-D From: Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012, 7:28 Subject: [Biofuel] Solar, Wind other Alternatives Hi Folks I live in a small town 100km from Perth Western Australia and I have put ( on a very limited income ) up 1kw system ( subsidised by our Govt, my cost was 2500$ they contributed 8000$ ) I did this just over 2 years ago, and as the way the grid system works, if the grid power goes out, so does the solar system so we are still no better off . So the Alternative Energy Bug Bit harder ! I decided to set up a stand alone system and have been slowly getting together this ... System to date and costs so far 4 x Trojan 6V golf cart Batteries 205 amp/hour each ( this system is 24 volt ) These Batteries are 8 months old 4 for $200 as apposed to 175$ ex GST each new in Aust. ( Secondary lighting bank for led lighting and miscellaneous uses 2 x 12v 89amp/HR marine/Truck/4wd batteries ) http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/lights-electrical/automotive-batteries/4wd-truck-marine.aspx?id=5072 ( Am Still deciding if I will go 12v for lighting ) 2 x Monocrystalline Solar Panel 180W (24V) Paid $300.00 each . Normal price $669.00 EACH http://www.altronics.com.au/index.asp?area=itemid=N0180 MPPT60-2, 15V to 95V,3600w output Regulator Paid $300.00 Normally $649.00 http://www.gsl.com.au/products/solar_regulators.html#product3 4 x 6m lengths of 50 x 50 angle Iron for frame to mount solar panels on roof. with 10% Discount from Midalia Steel Welshpool Paid $148.00 Including cutting to 1.6m lengths (* I changed the design after buying the steel and could have saved buying 1 length of angle ! *) Calibre Battery Charger - 6/12/24V, 10 Amp, Smart Paid $144.00 normally $219.00 http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Calibre-Battery-Charger-6-12-24V-10-Amp-Smart.aspx?pid=125650#Description 24V x 1000 Watt (3000W Surge) Pure Sinewave Inverter paying $358.00 normally $699.00 http://www.altronics.com.au/index.asp?area=itemid=M8018 I am looking and considering a Grid tie setup as well. I would like to find and purchase 1 x 24v or switchable 12/24v meter to mount near the gear to visually monitor the solar out put of panels Also 1 x 24v one for the future Wind Turbine and as the inverter doesn't have a output meter (for present power being consumed ) one for that as well (24v input 240~255 output) And Maybe 1 x 24v meter to monitor the condition of batteries Any suggestions on where to purchase these meters at a good price would be gratefully accepted I will when I can afford it purchase a 24v x 500w wind Turbine and also considering a VAWT / generator as well I am finding once you get into your own Power generation it is somewhat like gold prospecting it gets in your blood and you cant stop ! Though I still haven't made any BioDiesel, I do at some time hope to and I imagine my addiction will carry onto that as well. This is a Brilliant channel on YouTube to check out OBXSOLWIND's channel http://www.youtube.com/user/obxsolwind?feature=results_main Could we add a bit more into The Biofuel Group on the Alternative energy AROUND the world ESP as different countries have different power options IE in Aust we are 240 volt. We now live in a global community and America isn't the center of the universe anymore GRIN! Thanks Keith Love your Work Tony Lush Toodyay ( Pronounced 2J) Western Australia PS *** I live on a disabled pension and decided that if i want to make my dreams come true I have to find a way to do it, and that is one item at a time and be patient boy it feels good to be getting close to completion! *** You don't have to see the whole staircase, just take the first step. - Martin Luther King Jr. (1929-1968) ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] efficiency of 99 per cent or better at full load and much higher efficiencies in part-load conditions than mechanical gears can achieve.
http://www.engineerlive.com/Design-Engineer/Power_Transmission/Magnets_offer_advantages_as_an_alternative_to_mechanical_gears/22078/ Magnets offer advantages as an alternative to mechanical gearsMagnetic components are the norm in electric motors and non-contact drive couplings, but new developments could see magnets taking the place of mechanical gears in power transmission systems. Paul Stevens reports on novel magnet-based power transmission components and the advantages they offer designers. Transmissions, couplings and dampers, as well as electrical machines and actuators, are well catered for by existing technologies, yet these technologies all have their limitations and drawbacks. Gears, for example, require lubrication, generate noise and suffer from inherent friction that reduces their mechanical inefficiency. Magnetism, which is used in everything from toys and door catches to electric motors and medical imaging systems, is the subject of ongoing research by commercial organisations and academic institutions. Improved field strengths and design techniques mean that smaller and lighter magnets can replace larger composite magnets or create new opportunities. One of the academic institutions that has been leading the research is the University of Sheffield in the UK. Magnomatics was established as a spin-out company from Sheffield University in 2006 to commercialise groundbreaking research on magnetic transmission systems, high-torque electrical machines and electromechanical actuators and dampers. This work was being undertaken by Dr Kais Atallah and Professor David Howe in the Electrical Machines and Drives laboratories at the University. Today Magnomatics maintains strong links with the University, making use of the available technical expertise and research facilities. Members of Dr Atallah's original research group now form the core of Magnomatics' technical team. Magnomatics' activities centre on - but are not restricted to - magnetic gearing, in which components transmit torque by non-contact magnetic coupling rather than meshed mechanical gear teeth. Depending on the embodiment, Magnomatics says that gear ratios from 1.01:1 to 1000:1 are possible. Dr Atallah invented and demonstrated a high-torque magnetic gear in 2001. Compared with mechanical gears, his invention is claimed to offer advantages including reduced maintenance, improved reliability, no need for lubricants, higher efficiency, precise peak torque transmission, inherent overload protection, reduced drivetrain pulsations, tolerance of misalignment and low noise. In some applications, it is also beneficial that the input and output shafts are physically isolated. Magnomatics' magnetic gears use permanent magnets to transmit torque between an input and output shaft. The company says that torque densities comparable with mechanical gears can be achieved with an efficiency of 99 per cent or better at full load and much higher efficiencies in part-load conditions than mechanical gears can achieve. Furthermore, for higher power ratings a magnetic gear can be smaller, lighter and cost less than a mechanical gear. Since there is no contact between the moving parts, there is no wear and no need for lubrication (Fig.1). Magnetic gears also protect against overloads by slipping harmlessly if an excessive torque is applied, and automatically and safely re-engaging when the excess torque is removed. The low-ratio magnetic gear uses a series of steel pole-pieces to modulate the fields produced by two permanent magnet rotors with different numbers of magnetic poles. In this arrangement the magnet arrays rotate at different speeds, with the gear ratio determined by the ratio of magnets in each array. The transfer of motion between input and output shafts is achieved passively using powerful permanent magnets and an intermediate modulating element (Fig.2). A high degree of magnetic coupling between the rotors allows for torque densities to be realised that are comparable with mechanical gears. Gear ratios of 50:1 down to 1.01:1 with almost zero torque ripple are readily achievable. Interestingly, low-ratio magnetic gears can be realised in a conventional radial field or in an axial arrangement when a thin 'pancake' design is required (Fig.3). Magnomatics' low-ratio magnetic gear forms an integral component within the company's new type of permanent magnet machine, the pseudo direct drive (PDD), that offers a far higher torque density than conventional motor-gearbox combinations (see below). Magnomatics high-ratio magnetic gears use a rotating diverging air gap to modulate the fields produced by the permanent magnet arrays on the input and output rotors. As with the low-ratio gears, a high degree of coupling between the rotors allows for a very high torque density to be achieved. The simple and robust structure of the high-ratio magnetic gear enables ratios of up to 1000:1 to be
Re: [Biofuel] The new aristocracy
some interesting thoughts re words aristocrat and sinister According to Barbara Kaye [EMAIL PROTECTED], the Greek word for Left is aristera, which is the root of aristocrat. http://stason.org/TULARC/society/left-handed-left-hander/30-Why-is-left-handedness-considered-something-sinister.html Read more:http://stason.org/TULARC/society/left-handed-left-hander/30-Why-is-left-handedness-considered-something-sinister.html#ixzz1z6ga8E9B I call them banksters. Kirk You learn from your mistakes...Today I hope not to learn_too_ much. From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 6:40 AM Subject: [Biofuel] The new aristocracy http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/jun2012/pers-j28.shtml The new aristocracy 28 June 2012 As governments throughout the world close schools, lay off workers and slash support to the poor, old and sick, the financial oligarchy that rules the world increases its wealth and power. The incomes of the top-earning bank CEOs grew 12 percent last year, according to an analysis of the 15 largest global banks conducted by pay research group Equilar. These executives received an average of $12.8 million apiece, even though the stock values, earnings, and profits of most of the banks shrank. Jamie Dimon, the chairman and chief executive officer of JPMorgan Chase, once again topped the list, taking in $23.1 million, an 11 percent increase over 2010. Under Dimon's watch, JPMorgan recently disclosed billions of dollars in speculative losses. Governments across the globe have bailed out these banks to the tune of trillions of dollars. They have massively subsidized these giant, privately-owned financial institutions, and they stand ready to rescue them again if and when necessary. The report on bankers' pay was released only days after Hawaii's governor announced that Oracle CEO Larry Ellison had bought Lanai, the sixth-largest Hawaiian island, for between $500 and $600 million. The island's 3,000 residents will be as dependent on Ellison's good will as were the vassals of the Middle Ages to their lord. Ellison, the third-richest individual in the United States, is notorious both for his extravagance and his petty avarice. In 2008, he won a $3 million tax refund from the city of Woodside, California after a court ruled that his house, a reproduction of a Japanese emperor's estate that cost $200 million to build, was worth only $100 million on the current market. The court declared that nobody besides Ellison could afford to live in the house, which gave it limited market appeal, and on that basis lowered the Oracle executive's property taxes. The taxes that Ellison and his fellow California billionaires avoid paying have contributed to the state's $15 billion budget deficit, which is now being tackled through cuts in vital social programs that keep millions from destitution. California Governor Jerry Brown, a Democrat, and the Democratic-controlled state legislature reached an agreement last week on a minimum of $8 billion in spending cuts. State welfare benefits are to be slashed in half and $1 billion is to be cut from the state's Medicaid program, $402 million from state workers' wages, and $240 million from child care. Ellison, whose net worth is $36.5 billion, could write a check to cover the amount of these cuts Š four times over. Then there are the other 99 billionaires in the state. Another example of the use to which the super-rich are putting their vast fortunes has been captured in a soon-to-be-released documentary, The Queen of Versailles. The film recounts the efforts of the billionaire founder of Westgate Resorts (a time-share company) and his ex-model wife to build the largest house in the United States. At 90,000 square feet, the Orlando, Florida mansion includes ten kitchens and a bowling alley. The palatial Florida home is named Versailles in honor of the palace of Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette. That the royal couple had their heads cut off in the French revolution seems lost on the builders of the new Versailles. A charming detail that helps explain why the ill-fated royal couple was so thoroughly despised by the French people: the royal family dogs were never housebroken because a small army of servants were always on hand to clean up after them. Aristocracy, from the Greek root, means rule by the best. However, the financial oligarchy, whose selfish interests determine the policies of the planet's governments, encompasses the most ignorant and depraved sections of modern society. Scum separates by floating upward, said Marx, writing about the speculators and fraudsters of his time. The finance aristocracy, he added, in its mode of acquisition as well as in its pleasures, is nothing but the rebirth of the lumpenproletariat on the heights of bourgeois society. The decades preceding the Wall Street crash of 2008 saw
[Biofuel] YASA on you tube - breakthrough in electric car
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[Biofuel] 30% of children tested had thyroid lumps — “Now that’s really early, that’s within the first year, that’s unheard of”
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[Biofuel] briquette machine
http://www.biogreentech.com/ make your own biomass products Nemo dat quod non habet From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 12:51 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Throwing Out the Free Market Playbook: An Interview with Naomi Klein http://www.thesolutionsjournal.com/node/1053 Volume 3 | Issue 1 | Feb 2012 Throwing Out the Free Market Playbook: An Interview with Naomi Klein Perhaps one of the most well-known voices for the Left, Canadian Naomi Klein is an activist and author of several nonfiction works critical of consumerism and corporate activity, including the best sellers No Logo (2000) and Shock Doctrine (2007). In your cover story for the Nation last year, you say that modern environmentalism successfully advances many of the causes dear to the political Left, including redistribution of wealth, higher and more progressive taxes, and greater government intervention and regulation. Please explain. The piece came out of my interest and my shock at the fact that belief in climate change in the United States has plummeted. If you really drill into the polling data, what you see is that the drop in belief in climate change is really concentrated on the right of the political spectrum. It's been an extraordinary and unusual shift in belief in a short time. In 2007, 71 percent of Americans believed in climate change and in 2009 only 51 percent believed-and now we're at 41 percent. So I started researching the denial movement and going to conferences and reading the books, and what's clear is that, on the right, climate change is seen as a threat to the Right's worldview, and to the neoliberal economic worldview. It's seen as a Marxist plot. They accuse climate scientists of being watermelons-green on the outside and red on the inside. It seems exaggerated, but your piece was about how the Right is in fact correct. I don't think climate change necessitates a social revolution. This idea is coming from the right-wing think tanks and not scientific organizations. They're ideological organizations. Their core reason for being is to defend what they call free-market ideology. They feel that any government intervention leads us to serfdom and brings about a socialist world, so that's what they have to fight off: a socialist world. Increase the power of the private sector and decrease the public sphere is their ideology. You can set up carbon markets, consumer markets, and just pretend, but if you want to get serious about climate change, really serious, in line with the science, and you want to meet targets like 80 percent emissions cuts by midcentury in the developed world, then you need to be intervening strongly in the economy, and you can't do it all with carbon markets and offsetting. You have to really seriously regulate corporations and invest in the public sector. And we need to build public transport systems and light rail and affordable housing along transit lines to lower emissions. The market is not going to step up to this challenge. We must do more: rebuild levees and bridges and the public sphere, because we saw in Katrina what happens when weak infrastructure clashes with heavy weather-it's catastrophe. These climate deniers aren't crazy-their worldview is under threat. If you take climate change seriously, you do have to throw out the free-market playbook. What is the political philosophy that underscores those who accept climate change versus those who deny it? The Yale cultural cognition project has looked at cultural worldview and climate change, and what's clear is that ideology is the main factor in whether we believe in climate change. If you have an egalitarian and communitarian worldview, and you tend toward a belief system of pooling resources and helping the less advantaged, then you believe in climate change. And the stronger your belief system tends toward a hierarchical or individual worldview, the greater the chances are that you deny climate change and the stronger your denial will be. The reason is clear: it's because people protect their worldviews. We all do this. We develop intellectual antibodies. Climate change confirms what people on the left already believe. But the Left must take this confirmation responsibly. It means that if you are on the left of the spectrum, you need to guard against exaggeration and your own tendency to unquestioningly accept the data because it confirms your worldview. Members of the Left have been resistant to acknowledging that this worldview is behind their support of climate action, while the Right confronts it head on. Why this hesitancy among liberals? There are a few factors at work. Climate change is not a big issue for the Left. The big left issues in the United States are inequality, the banks, corporate malfeasance, unemployment, foreclosures. I don't think climate change
Re: [Biofuel] briquette machine
I was wondering about sagebrush. Ranchers in the west would pay you to cut it so the source is free + would smell nice too Nemo dat quod non habet From: Fritz Friesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] briquette machine Hi Kirk, briquettes and pellets from wood chips are ment to be from shavings and offcuts of regular production facilitys. I have since 2000 a briquttpress in my woodshop here in Quebec. At first the ministry of environment didnt allow me to heat my shop with briquettes! Oil was ok Pellets are a good source of heating,but for a woodshop not ideal because very sensytive about different shavings,you need allways the same shavings as per wood and sice of the shavings. Thats ok for big manufactures of woodenfloors,wich would have allways the same kind of shavings! All in all,a very good way of recycling wast. Not so for direct production of pellets and briquettes. The breaking down and drying of green wood takes to much energy and is therefor not the best solution! So the slogan: make your own biomass products is only good for woodshops of a certain size! Fritz www.boiseriestraditionnelles.ca -Original Message- From: Kirk McLoren Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 9:04 PM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] briquette machine http://www.biogreentech.com/ make your own biomass products Nemo dat quod non habet From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 12:51 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Throwing Out the Free Market Playbook: An Interview with Naomi Klein http://www.thesolutionsjournal.com/node/1053 Volume 3 | Issue 1 | Feb 2012 Throwing Out the Free Market Playbook: An Interview with Naomi Klein Perhaps one of the most well-known voices for the Left, Canadian Naomi Klein is an activist and author of several nonfiction works critical of consumerism and corporate activity, including the best sellers No Logo (2000) and Shock Doctrine (2007). -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20120304/1453d2e2/attachment-0001.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] A Time-Lapse Map of Every Nuclear Explosion Since 1945 - by Isao Hashimoto - YouTube - Sent using Google Toolbar
Nemo dat quod non habet Subject: A Time-Lapse Map of Every Nuclear Explosion Since 1945 - by Isao Hashimoto - YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLCF7vPanrYfeature=player_embedded#%21 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20120228/6f4f288e/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Big Carbon's Sock Puppets Declare War on America and the Planet
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr/cleantech-_b_1112793.html It's now become de rigueur among the radical right wing rhetoricians to characterize any government support of America's green energy sector as wasteful, fruitless, and scandalous. They greeted with glee the collapse of the government supported solar company, Solyndra, America's first major casualty in our race with China to dominate the new energy economy. With Solyndra dying on the battlefield -- its marketplace choking on inexpensive Chinese solar panels -- the right wing's response was to hoist the white flag and declare defeat in the war for global cleantech leadership. That brand of Can't Do cowardice is a boon to the carbon and nuclear power incumbents who fund so much of the right wing's activities -- but it's bad for America. Leveraging the aberrant Solyndra bankruptcy, these groups have launched an orchestrated series of attacks against the renewables sector by trying to discredit other companies, even those that are driving America forward with innovative solutions that actually do compete on a global basis. For example, last month, Fox News ran a story insinuating that SunPower received a loan guarantee for its Central Valley Solar Ranch project because of its political connections Congressman George Miller. The story also suggested that SunPower was struggling financially and posed another risk to taxpayers -- a la Solyndra. The truth is that SunPower is one of America's strongest solar manufacturing companies and Mr. Miller had nothing to do with the company receiving a loan guarantee for its Central Valley Solar Ranch Project. To Fox News and other right wing media sources, the facts meant very little. Their intent is only to suggest wrong-doing in an attempt to undermine the Obama Administration and its clean energy goals. Last week found the right wing echo chamber, from Fox News to the New York Post, and the conservative blogosphere in an anti-green frenzy based on faux facts from a new book, Throw Them All Out. The author of this far-fetched screed is Peter Schweizer, Sarah Palin's foreign policy guru, currently employed by the Hoover Institution, a think tank funded largely by oil interests (e.g., Exxon, ARCO, Transamerica, and Richard Mellon Scaife's oil and banking fortune) to craft the philosophical underpinnings for unregulated pollution, unrestricted corporate profit taking, and massive corporate welfare for the carbon/nuke incumbents. Thanks to a mention in Schweizer's far-fetched opus, I got a shout out, last week from most of these crackpot gas bags. The Daily Mail summarized my supposed crimes in its headline: JFK's nephew received $1.4 billion dollar taxpayer bailout for his struggling green energy firm. All of the reported facts in this blogosphonic barrage were Schweizer's inventions. Schweizer claims that BrightSource Energy received a government bailout due to political influence exerted on behalf of VantagePoint Capital Partners, where I am a partner and which is the largest institutional shareholder of BrightSource. The actual facts do not support Schweizer's claims. BrightSource Energy did not receive a bailout. Rather, the Ivanpah project, a 392 megawatt solar thermal project in the Mojave Desert that will provide clean power to 140,000 homes, received a loan guarantee from the Department of Energy (DOE). Ivanpah, which broke ground in October 2010, is majority owned by Google and energy giant NRG. BrightSource is a minority owner of and the technology supplier to the Ivanpah project. The underlying loan from private investors is fully secured, and pays interest that will earn a healthy return for U.S. taxpayers. Unlike Solyndra which received corporate financing from DOE, and which had no assurance that it would be able to sell its product, Ivanpah and the Central Valley Solar Ranch projects have contractual commitments from California's largest utilities to buy all of its power at fixed prices. This is comparable to building a new hotel with the guarantee that it will have 100% occupancy rates for 20+ years. Schweizer's claims that the loan guarantee works out to a cost to taxpayers of $1 million per job is also a canard. The Ivanpah project is one of the largest infrastructure projects in the nation and the largest solar thermal plant under construction in the world. The project's three year construction phase will create 1,400 highly-skilled trade, engineering and construction jobs at peak. These are high paying union jobs in a region plagued by one of America's highest unemployment rates. The project will generate $250 million in earnings for these construction workers and, over its 30 year life, will produce $650 million in earnings for workers on the site, including the 90 permanent jobs required to operate the plant. Finally, the $2.2 billion Ivanpah project is an investment in America's future with substantial indirect
Re: [Biofuel] Five Candidates for the Corporate Death Penalty
I would place Monsanto at the top of the list Kirk From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 8:53 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Five Candidates for the Corporate Death Penalty http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/10/20-8 Published on Thursday, October 20, 2011 by Single Payer Action Five Candidates for the Corporate Death Penalty by Russell Mokhiber One of the most famous signs to come out of Occupy Wall Street stated simply: I will believe corporations are people when Texas executes one. That was sort of a joke. But in fact, for the benefit of real live human beings, some corporations ought to be executed. My guess is that most of the occupiers at Wall Street would be in favor of the corporate death penalty. Some - like Richard Grossman - would criminalize the corporate form. But if you want to take the incremental approach, here's my list of five candidates for the corporate death penalty. Health insurance corporations. Most western industrialized countries - with the exception of the USA - already have this death penalty in place. In those countries, corporations are not allowed to sell primary private health insurance. Instead, there is a public single payer - everybody in, nobody out. Under this death penalty proposal corporations like Aetna, CIGNA, UnitedHealth, and Wellpoint would be put out of business. And with a public single payer to replace them, we'd save billions of dollars and the lives of more than 45,000 Americans who die every year from lack of health insurance. Nuclear power corporations. Do we really need a Fukushima here in the United States? We do not. Without government loan guarantees and federal limits on nuclear liability, the industry would be put out of business. So, we could simply cut the federal subsidy and that would be the end of it. And we should. A wide range of safer, cleaner energy options is available to replace the energy currently being generated by unsafe nuclear power. Giant Banks. Wells Fargo. Citibank. Bank of America. JP Morgan Chase. Morgan Stanley. Goldman Sachs. They should be executed - broken up and replaced by smaller banks. Break up the big banks. And impose a hard cap on their size. No bank should have assets of more than four percent of GDP. There is support across the political spectrum for this proposal. During the debate over financial reform, the measure garnered 33 votes in the Senate - it was called the Brown-Kaufman amendment. Fracking corporations. Hydraulic fracturing - fracking - is wrecking havoc in the northeastern part of the United States. Any corporation engaged in fracking behavior that threatens drinking water supplies ought to be put out of business. Anti-fracking activists in New York have already drafted legislation that would criminalize fracking corporations. Corporate criminal recidivists. Legislatures should adopt provisions to strip corporations of their charters for serious corporate violations or for recidivist behavior. Some states already have such provisions, although they are rarely invoked. Some corporations have been put to death for wrongful behavior, but they have been mostly smaller companies. In 1983, the Attorney General of Virginia asked the state's corporation commission to dissolve a book company convicted of possessing obscene films. But when it comes to the serious crimes that big corporations engage in - pollution, corruption, fraud, threatening the lives of real Americans - the death penalty is off the table. If we are serious about corporate crime, the death penalty is a deterrent that will work. Russell Mokhiber is editor of the Washington, D.C.-based Corporate Crime Reporter. He is also founder of singlepayeraction.org, and editor of the website Morgan County USA ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20111021/2bab58cd/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] 9/11 conspiracy theory
Brilliant!! --Kirk I wouldn’t want to fly Virgin. Who’d want to fly an airline that doesn’t go all the way? From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:23 AM Subject: [Biofuel] 9/11 conspiracy theory Everything you ever wanted to know about the 9/11 conspiracy theory in under 5 minutes. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article29110.htm ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20110913/a0ac704e/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Decline of Honey Bees Now a Global Phenomenon, says United Nations
I know there was concern the genetically modified corn, I think it was corn, was wiping out the monarch butterfly. The toxin was a systemic. Surprised GMO factors are omitted in the article. I believe Monsanto is the most evil corporation on the planet. Kirk From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 4:03:00 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Decline of Honey Bees Now a Global Phenomenon, says United Nations http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/decline-of-honey-bees-now-a-global-phenomenon-says-united-nations-2237541.html Published on Thursday, March 10, 2011 by the Independent/UK Decline of Honey Bees Now a Global Phenomenon, says United Nations by Michael McCarthy The mysterious collapse of honey-bee colonies is becoming a global phenomenon, scientists working for the United Nations have revealed. Declines in managed bee colonies, seen increasingly in Europe and the US in the past decade, are also now being observed in China and Japan and there are the first signs of African collapses from Egypt, according to the report from the United Nations Environment Program (UNEP). The authors, who include some of the world's leading honey-bee experts, issue a stark warning about the disappearance of bees, which are increasingly important as crop pollinators around the globe. Without profound changes to the way human beings manage the planet, they say, declines in pollinators needed to feed a growing global population are likely to continue. The scientists warn that a number of factors may now be coming together to hit bee colonies around the world, ranging from declines in flowering plants and the use of damaging insecticides, to the worldwide spread of pests and air pollution. They call for farmers and landowners to be offered incentives to restore pollinator-friendly habitats, including key flowering plants near crop-producing fields and stress that more care needs to be taken in the choice, timing and application of insecticides and other chemicals. While managed hives can be moved out of harm's way, wild populations (of pollinators) are completely vulnerable, says the report. The way humanity manages or mismanages its nature-based assets, including pollinators, will in part define our collective future in the 21st century, said Achim Steiner, UN Under-Secretary-General and UNEP Executive Director. The fact is that of the 100 crop species that provide 90 per cent of the world's food, over 70 are pollinated by bees. Human beings have fabricated the illusion that in the 21st century they have the technological prowess to be independent of nature. Bees underline the reality that we are more, not less, dependent on nature's services in a world of close to seven billion people. Declines in bee colonies date back to the mid 1960s in Europe, but have accelerated since 1998, while in North America, losses of colonies since 2004 have left the continent with fewer managed pollinators than at any time in the past 50 years, says the report. Now Chinese beekeepers have recently faced several inexplicable and complex symptoms of colony losses in both species, the report says. And it has been reported elsewhere that some Chinese farmers have had to resort to pollinating fruit trees by hand because of the lack of insects. Furthermore, a quarter of beekeepers in Japan have recently been confronted with sudden losses of their bee colonies, while in Africa, beekeepers along the Egyptian Nile have been reporting signs of colony collapse disorder - although to date there are no other confirmed reports from the rest of the continent. The report lists a number of factors which may be coming together to cause the decline and they include: - Habitat degradation, including the loss of flowering plant species that provide food for bees; - Some insecticides, including the so-called systemic insecticides which can migrate to the entire plant as it grows and be taken in by bees in nectar and pollen; - Parasites and pests, such as the well-known Varroa mite; - Air pollution, which may be interfering with the ability of bees to find flowering plants and thus food - scents that could travel more than 800 meters in the 1800s now reach less than 200 meters from a plant. The transformation of the countryside and rural areas in the past half-century or so has triggered a decline in wild-living bees and other pollinators, said one of the lead authors, Dr Peter Neumann of the Swiss Bee Research Center. Society is increasingly investing in 'industrial-scale' hives and managed colonies to make up the shortfall and going so far as to truck bees around to farms and fields in order to maintain our food supplies. A variety of factors are making these man-made colonies vulnerable to decline and collapse. We need to get smarter about how we manage these hives, but perhaps more importantly
Re: [Biofuel] I sussed it out
A Sako is a Finnish rifle. I have one of the 3 lug magnums. They dont make them anymore. Too expensive to manufacture they say. The bolt is more rigid as it has support every 120 degrees instead of 180. Machine precision isnt great. A weldingshop can do it. Not like you were going to build a hydraulic cylinder or an engine. More like the skill set of building a water wheel. The mechanical processes are familiar, just combined uniquely. A hammer is a hammer even when it is part of my machine. I intend to build one. Just thought I wouldnt make the world wait until I found resources. I suppose most people would keep it secret and patent it and become the next General Electric. Guess I am a weird duck. Kirk From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 5:56:48 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] I sussed it out Hello Kirk I am financially strapped but hopefully my Sako will sell soon and my friend will cut the wheel for me. What's a Sako? I actually thought it would be so apparent when pointed out that people could get busy and throw them together. But nobody has, have they? It's obviously apparent to you, but perhaps not to anyone else. And it'll cost some money, it sounds like it needs precision engineering. So then it wouldn't be a matter of just throwing them together, would it? People need to be convinced before they'll invest time and money. I was further motivated to disclose because of my health. I'm sorry to hear that. I very well could not be here to disclose if I waited. -Oh well. I wasn't talking about waiting. Plans are as easy as falling off a log. Well that shouldn't be a problem for you then. If plans would be that easy, why not produce plans? Sorry if this seems tiresome, but the rest of your message is just another explanation. Explanations are not the same as plans, a working model, a design. As far as I'm concerned, and perhaps to most of us here, all it amounts to is just more theorising. So I gurantee it works. You can't guarantee it. Guarantees are 100%. Until you've built a working model and proved that it works as you think it will, you won't really know yourself whether it works or not, despite your conviction that it will. Don't you owe it to yourself to do that? Best wishes Keith momentum is transferred between 2 masses using a wheel as a lever and the only thing you have to observe is input momentum is transferred at v/2 and output mass has to have the same mass relationship as the ratio of wheel diameters. ie if mass is 4:1 then driven point on wheel and output point on wheel are also 4:1 Capturing the faster mass after it has swapped its ke for altitude is done with a ferris wheel (or think water wheel) or cups on a belt also called an elevator in the agriculture industry. People insist on thinking ke is something besides velocity and it isnt. The glareing clue should be it ignores Newtons 3rd law of motion. When Einstein discussed conservation of energy he used momentum not ke. There is a reason he chose to do it that way I suppose the classic textbook nonsense is they describe a mass moving at x velocity picking up (colliding) with an equivalent mass and now moving v/2. They show how no momentum was lost, ie m1v1=m2v2 and then fall off the wagon with the absurdity the missing ke was turned into heat and sound. If you lost no momentum you lost no energy. Cant have it both ways. So much for Newtonian mechanics in the 21st century educational system. So I gurantee it works. Just have to keep beating my head against the wall I suppose. I think educated people are at a disadvantage. If you believe something to the point there is no doubt, no question in your mind, then when asked to change it you have to go through some profound psychological changes. I know when I fianally saw it I actually felt physically dizzy for a moment. Interesting that changing a viewpoint could do that. Seems once something is part of the paradigm we can go hysterically blind rather than challenge it. Funny creatures arent we? Soon, very soon, my friend I can take pictures and hopefully that will do it. All the best Kirk From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 2:10:13 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] I sussed it out Hello Kirk I published my notes on the Bessler list how momentum can be manipulated to extract power. Probably the best fuel is no fuel needed http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=84182#84182 But I don't see much there. There's some discussion further up the page and so on. Can we look forward to you building a working device in the near future? someone asks. Can we? Now we need to set up a shop and turn them out by the thousands, you say. But that requires a working model, a design, plans, not just theoretical discussion, or nobody'll buy it except the true
Re: [Biofuel] I sussed it out
I am financially strapped but hopefully my Sako will sell soon and my friend will cut the wheel for me. I actually thought it would be so apparent when pointed out that people could get busy and throw them together. I was further motivated to disclose because of my health. I very well could not be here to disclose if I waited. -Oh well. Plans are as easy as falling off a log. momentum is transferred between 2 masses using a wheel as a lever and the only thing you have to observe is input momentum is transferred at v/2 and output mass has to have the same mass relationship as the ratio of wheel diameters. ie if mass is 4:1 then driven point on wheel and output point on wheel are also 4:1 Capturing the faster mass after it has swapped its ke for altitude is done with a ferris wheel (or think water wheel) or cups on a belt also called an elevator in the agriculture industry. People insist on thinking ke is something besides velocity and it isnt. The glareing clue should be it ignores Newtons 3rd law of motion. When Einstein discussed conservation of energy he used momentum not ke. There is a reason he chose to do it that way I suppose the classic textbook nonsense is they describe a mass moving at x velocity picking up (colliding) with an equivalent mass and now moving v/2. They show how no momentum was lost, ie m1v1=m2v2 and then fall off the wagon with the absurdity the missing ke was turned into heat and sound. If you lost no momentum you lost no energy. Cant have it both ways. So much for Newtonian mechanics in the 21st century educational system. So I gurantee it works. Just have to keep beating my head against the wall I suppose. I think educated people are at a disadvantage. If you believe something to the point there is no doubt, no question in your mind, then when asked to change it you have to go through some profound psychological changes. I know when I fianally saw it I actually felt physically dizzy for a moment. Interesting that changing a viewpoint could do that. Seems once something is part of the paradigm we can go hysterically blind rather than challenge it. Funny creatures arent we? Soon, very soon, my friend I can take pictures and hopefully that will do it. All the best Kirk From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 2:10:13 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] I sussed it out Hello Kirk I published my notes on the Bessler list how momentum can be manipulated to extract power. Probably the best fuel is no fuel needed http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=84182#84182 But I don't see much there. There's some discussion further up the page and so on. Can we look forward to you building a working device in the near future? someone asks. Can we? Now we need to set up a shop and turn them out by the thousands, you say. But that requires a working model, a design, plans, not just theoretical discussion, or nobody'll buy it except the true-believers. Sorry to sound so negative, but that's how it is, IMHO. Do you have a design that works, not just something for further experimentation? hope all is well with you Keith Got more problems than a cat with 20 kittens and only two tits. :-) Changing countries has never been so complicated before. Nearly there though - I'll go out in an hour or so and dash about the place again, and that should be it, then I can take it easy for a while. Yes, all's well. I hope all's well with you too Kirk. All best Keith Kirk ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20110308/df3a06a1/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] I sussed it out
I published my notes on the Bessler list how momentum can be manipulated to extract power. Probably the best fuel is no fuel needed http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=84182#84182 hope all is well with you Keith Kirk -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20110227/3dd3b4bc/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming
If you built a heliostat field with a concentration of say 10 and made the greenhouse an insulated building except for the window receiving the light from the heliostats you could reduce supplementary heating tremendously. The wall on the far side should be reflective. Window is of course at focal point of field and should be low iron glass. Even a building such as the passive solar rooms as in Rodale press book Passive solar heating with a tilt out reflector which is insulated on the back so when it is closed at night heat loss is more comparable to a regular house would save tremendous amounts of heat. Look into PAR lamps for cloudy days. (Photosynthetically Available Radiation) From: Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 6:42:43 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming This company supplies tomatoes to local stores year-round in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. http://www.suntech.ca/ You might want to investigate how the do things. Looks like average temperatures are pretty comparable for SD and Ottawa over the course of the year (comparing http://www.weather.com/outlook/driving/interstate/wxclimatology/monthly/graph/57103 to http://www.weather.com/outlook/driving/interstate/wxclimatology/monthly/graph/57103). Darryl On 30/11/2010 11:43 PM, Dan Beukelman wrote: Hello All, I have read your posts for several years, but have not ever posted - lurking in the shadows I guess. I am wondering if anyone out there has any thoughts/experience with production agriculture from a greenhouse/hothouse structure. I live in South Dakota and have been thinking that with energy efficient glass and the right setup that growing fresh vegetables likes tomatoes year around might be possible (I say this with a wind chill today near 0 fahrenheit). I have read that many of the US tomato supply is grown in Canada, which is colder than us, our area is dominated by grain farming - but I think that local foods stores would go nuts over a locally grown garden type tomato in the Wintertime. The construction costs of a very efficient greenhouse should be able to be covered by the profit from selling a well growing tomato crop, but the profits go out the window if you have the heat much. All of the greenhouses I know of around here use plastic coverings and that is only useful for extending the growing season a little bit on both ends. I am thinking of keeping growth all year or nearly all year. Any thoughts? Dan -- Darryl McMahon The Emperor's New Hydrogen Economy (eBook and trade paper) http://www.econogics.com/TENHE/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20101201/47a101e8/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Online music
a slick way to listen to music online, giving you complete control over what you want to hear. http://listen.grooveshark.com/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091103/0cd8eb70/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] BIRDS full of PLASTIC......outrageous.
http://www.chrisjordan.com/current_set2.php?id=11 Midway Message from the Gyre These photographs of albatross chicks were made just a few weeks ago on Midway Atoll, a tiny stretch of sand and coral near the middle of the North Pacific. The nesting babies are fed bellies-full of plastic by their parents, who soar out over the vast polluted ocean collecting what looks to them like food to bring back to their young. On this diet of human trash, every year tens of thousands of albatross chicks die on Midway from starvation, toxicity, and choking. To document this phenomenon as faithfully as possible, not a single piece of plastic in any of these photographs was moved, placed, manipulated, arranged, or altered in any way. These images depict the actual stomach contents of baby birds in one of the world's most remote marine sanctuaries, more than 2000 miles from the nearest continent. ~cj, October 2009 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091101/1677668a/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Amazing pictures - pollution in China
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[Biofuel] How a Torture Protest Killed a Career
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=11539 How a Torture Protest Killed a Career Craig Murray – Consortium News October 24, 2009 I’ve never, ever spoken in public about the pain of being a whistleblower. Partly because of the British stiff-upper lip thing and partly as well because if you wish to try eventually to get on and reestablish yourself then it doesn’t do to show weakness. … I was sitting in this place on my own and feeling rather lonely. And there were a whole bunch of people in dark suits coming from government offices, in many cases in groups, and there they were with the men’s suits sleek and the ladies, the whole office, power-politics thing going on, having after-dinner champagne in the posh bar. And I was remembering how many times I’d been the center of such groups and of how successful my life used to be. I was a British ambassador at the age of 42. The average age for such a post is 57. I was successful in worldly terms. And I think I almost never sat alone at such a place. Normally if I had been alone in such a place, I would have ended up probably in the company of a beautiful young lady of some kind. I tell you that partly because this whole question of personal morality is a complicated one. I would never, ever, no one would have ever pointed at me as someone likely to become or to be a person of conscience. And yet eventually I found myself on the outside and treated in a way that challenged my whole view of the world. Mission to Tashkent Let me start to tell you something about how that happened. I was a British ambassador in Uzbekistan and I was told before I went that Uzbekistan was an important ally in the war on terror, had given the United States a very important airbase which was a forward mounting post for Afghanistan, and was a bulwark against Islamic extremism in Central Asia. When I got there I found it was a dreadful regime, absolutely totalitarian. And there’s a difference between dictatorship of which there are many and a totalitarian dictatorship which unless you’ve actually been in one is hard to comprehend. There’s absolutely no free media whatsoever. News on every single channel, the news programs start with 12 items about what the president did today. And that’s it. That is the news. There are no other news channels and international news channels are blocked. There are about 12,000 political prisoners. Any sign of religious enthusiasm for any religion will get you put into jail. The majority of people are predominantly Muslim. But if you are to carry out the rituals of the Muslim religion, particularly if you were to pray five times a day, you’d be in jail very quickly. Young men are put in jail for growing beards. It’s not the only religion which is outlawed. The jails are actually quite full of Baptists. Being Baptist is illegal in Uzbekistan. I’m sure that Methodists and Quakers would be illegal, too, It’s just that they haven’t got any so they haven’t gotten around to making them illegal. And it’s really not a joke. If you are put into prison in Uzbekistan the chances of coming out again alive are less than even. And most of the prisons are still the old Soviet gulags in the most literal sense. They are physically the same places. The biggest one being the Jaslyk gulag in the deserts of the Kizyl Kum. I had only been there for a week or two when I went to a show trial of an al-Qaeda terrorist they had caught. It was a big event put on partly for the benefit of the American embassy to demonstrate the strength of the U.S.-Uzbek alliance against terrorism. When I got there, to call the trial unconvincing would be an underestimate. There was one moment when this old man [who] had given evidence that his nephew was a member of al-Qaeda and had personally met Osama bin Laden. And like everybody else in that court he was absolutely terrified. But suddenly as he was giving his evidence, he seemed from somewhere to find an inner strength. He was a very old man but he stood taller and said in a stronger voice, he said, “This is not true. This is not true. They tortured my children in front of me until I signed this. I had never heard of al-Qaeda or Osama bin Laden.” He was then hustled out of the court and we never did find out what had happened to him. He was almost certainly killed. But as it happens I was within touching distance of him when he said that and I can’t explain it. It’s not entirely rational. But you could just feel it was true. You could tell he was speaking the truth when he said that. And that made me start to call into doubt the whole question of the narrative about al-Qaeda in Uzbekistan and the alliance in the war on terror. Boiled to Death Something which took that doubt over the top happened about a week later. The West -- because Uzbekistan was our great ally in the war on terror – had shown no interest in the human rights situation at all. In fact, the
Re: [Biofuel] [no-forced-vaccination] surprized there was no comment re Andrew Moulden
http://media.abovetopsecret.com/media/2374/Dr_Andrew_Moulden/ Actually to see Mouldens material you have to go to utube or Googlevideo and put his name in the search window. Links are proving unreliable - they didnt used to be. If I was in Canada he would be my choice. Kirk --- On Thu, 9/24/09, Nadiyah Gayles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Nadiyah Gayles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [no-forced-vaccination] surprized there was no comment re Andrew Moulden To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 11:38 PM WOW. My husband and I watched that Video and we were very frustrated to say the least. I sent it to everyone in my other address book. I hope people do not get offended but have the courage to open their eyes. I appreciate all the information here.I do not think I have done this much research since I was in college. Recent Activity 20 New Members Visit Your Group New web site? Drive traffic now. Get your business on Yahoo! search. Yahoo! Groups Mental Health Zone Mental Health Learn More Yahoo! Groups Auto Enthusiast Zone Passionate about cars? Check out the Auto Enthusiast Zone. . __,_._,___ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090925/e1d289da/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] more Moulden
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3296758102537633637ei=N0S5SpTvCKbmqQKjxNiKAgq=dr+andrew+moulden http://brainguardmd.com/ Tolerance_Lost_Volume_1_of_3_volume_set.mpg - 26:32 - Mar 19, 2009 CNAPS MDI - www.BrainGuardMD.com (35 Ratings) Rate: TOLERANCE LOST VOLUME 1 - First 26 minutes Volume one of Tolerance Lost - a 3 DVD disk (6 hours run time) series that provides the conclu...all » TOLERANCE LOST VOLUME 1 - First 26 minutes Volume one of Tolerance Lost - a 3 DVD disk (6 hours run time) series that provides the conclusive proof causation evidence that all vaccines, as currently constituted and deployed, cause impaired blood flow, blood sludging, and tissue damages to all organs including hypoxic (low oxygen delivery) brain damages. Use this video series to establish proof of causation for vaccine injury, to monitor the health and neurological rcovery of your loved ones, to begin the road to recovery, and as a medical-legal shield to exempt yourself and your family from mandatory vaccinations. “Tolerance Lost” details the method by which all vaccines and other environmental influences are causing autism-spectrum, attention-deficit disorders, specific learning disabilities, sudden infant death, seizure disorders, gardasil death and adversity, gulf war syndrome, dementia, and a host of chronic illnesses and disorders spanning the bowel, liver, kidneys, pancreas, and immune and respiratory systems. One does not need to be directly vaccinated in order to be vaccine injured. Direct vaccination is not the only trigger towards the common mechanism of adversity - including autism-spectrum. Hypoxia (impaired oxygen) and ischemia (impaired blood flow) are core aspects to all. Adversity can be immediate (within several hours) and or delayed (several months to years) as a function of the M.A.S.S. immune hyperstimulation and Zeta potential responses. Blood flow is impaired in all cases. Solutions are now available. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: BrainGuardMD.com The full DVD set Tolerance Lost is available on-line at BrainGuardMD.com. Become empowered and informed. Knowledge is the means to penetrate darkness with light and to chart a course out of the maze we all find ourselves in. Learn what you must no do to protect yourself and your lovd ones nd how you can now show the court systems that you and your loved ones are vicitims of a flawed medical system and deserve compensation and support. for help: www.HyperTC.com 1-877-497-3782 - Mr. Bill Shindler For information and schedulling of speaking engagements: www.VacInfo.org for medcial legal action: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Join us for the battle to come at - www.BrainGuardMD.com (membership is free) Andrew Moulden MD, PhD -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090922/6ff83c7b/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Andrew Moulden
19h30 - 21h00 Les vaccins causent des accidents microvasculaires, des dommages neurologiques et de nombreuses maladies (Présenté en anglais) Dr Andrew Moulden a sequence of videos regarding public health. Moulden was fast tracking to head of Quebec medicine 2004 when he and his conscience collided. A must see! Part 1 of 11: [link to www.youtube.com] Part 2 of 11: [link to www.youtube.com] Part 3 of 11: [link to www.youtube.com] Part 4 of 11: [link to www.youtube.com] Part 5 of 11: [link to www.youtube.com] Part 6 of 11: [link to www.youtube.com] Part 7 of 11: [link to www.youtube.com] Part 8 of 11: [link to www.youtube.com] Part 9 of 11: [link to www.youtube.com] Part 10 of 11: [link to www.youtube.com] Part 11 of 11: [link to www.youtube.com] Every law not based on wisdom is a menace to society. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090921/69c6470a/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] The Government Can
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[Biofuel] swine flu is a sneeze compared to this
http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local-beat/Rare-Disease-Surfaces-in-Key-West-57760712.html Dengue Fever Surfaces in Key West Florida hasn't seen a case the rare disease in more than 80 years By TODD WRIGHT Updated 6:54 AM EDT, Wed, Sep 9, 2009 var partnerID=519897; var _hb=1; window.onerror=function(){clickURL=document.location.href;return true;} if(!self.clickURL) clickURL=parent.location.href; Print var partnerID=519897; var _hb=1; window.onerror=function(){clickURL=document.location.href;return true;} if(!self.clickURL) clickURL=parent.location.href; Email function position(o) { var pos = Position.get(o); Position.set('share_box',pos); } Share yahooBuzzArticleHeadline = Dengue Fever Surfaces in Key West; nbc_miami772:http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local-beat/Rare-Disease-Surfaces-in-Key-West-57760712.htmlBuzz up! TWITTER .postToFBArticlePage { background:transparent url(http://media.nbclocalmedia.com/designimages/facebook.gif) no-repeat scroll 0 0; display:block; float:left; height:14px; padding-right:5px; width:70px; text-align:right; } .postToFBArticlePage span { padding-top:0px; margin-top:3px; display:block; } #slideshow .showcase #slideCount { /* THIS DOES NOT BELONG HERE */ padding-left:140px; } #slideshow .yahoo_buzz .postToTwitterArticlePage span, #slideshow .yahoo_buzz .postToFBArticlePage span { margin-top: 0px; } #slideshow .yahoo_buzz .postToTwitterArticlePage a, #slideshow .yahoo_buzz .postToTwitterArticlePage a:link, #slideshow .yahoo_buzz .postToTwitterArticlePage a:visited, #slideshow .yahoo_buzz .postToFBArticlePage a, #slideshow .yahoo_buzz .postToFBArticlePage a:link, #slideshow .yahoo_buzz .postToFBArticlePage a:visited { color:#C3C7C7; } // also publish comment to Facebook nbc.fbparamshare = { contentTitle: Dengue Fever Surfaces in Key West, contentUrl: http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local-beat/Rare-Disease-Surfaces-in-Key-West-57760712.html?__source=Facebook;, contentThumbUrl: http://media.nbcmiami.com/images/100*75/110408+mosquito1.jpg;, bundleId: 104938618682, contentType: article, summary: With all this talk of swine flu,
[Biofuel] best and worst cell phones -brain cancer
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Enterprise-Applications/Cell-Phone-Radiation-Five-Best-and-Worst-Devices-By-Roy-Mark-748541/?kc=EWKNLEDP09172009A -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090917/1a07e97f/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Fw: Vitamin D may protect against the flu
D3 is the D of interest Kirk --- On Wed, 9/16/09, denvernaturopathic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: denvernaturopathic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Vitamin D may protect against the flu To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 2:24 PM Vitamin D and that Flu thing: Jacob Schor ND FABNO September 16, 2009 As most of you are well aware from past newsletters, I believe that there is compelling evidence to thing the seasonality of flu outbreaks can be linked to seasonal fluctuations in vitamin D status in individuals. Vitamin D levels are at their highest in late summer and early fall and at their lowest in late winter and early spring. These fluctuations correspond exactly with incidence of flu infections. To this point we have not seen anything published in the peer reviewed literature suggesting that adequate vitamin D levels are protective against the H1N1 strain of influenza. We have assumed it will be but until there is proof, doubt remains. Thus it is with interest that I read an email from John Cannell, MD just now. Dr. Cannell forwarded and email from Norris Glick, MD who describes the experience of the Central Wisconsin Center (CWC) and extended care facility. The CWC is home for 275 residents. There are approximately 800 staff that work at the facility caring for the residents. The vitamin D levels of the residents are tested regularly the residents receive oral supplements to maintain adequate levels. In June 2009 two residents of CWC developed influenza like illness and positive for the H1N1 flu. These were the only two residents to get sick. On the other hand when it came to the staff who were not monitored for vitamin D levels, 103 got sick. I’ll paste Dr. Glick’s letter below Granted that this data is not published in a peer reviewed journal but it certainly makes me pay attention. Dr. Cannell maintains a website about vitamin D and sends out random newsletters. You can sign up for Dr. Cannell’s newsletter at his website: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/ Dear Dr. Cannell: Your recent newsletters and video about Swine flu (H1N1) prompted me to convey our recent experience with an H1N1 outbreak at Central Wisconsin Center (CWC). Unfortunately, the state epidemiologist was not interested in studying it further so I pass it on to you since I think it is noteworthy. CWC is a long-term care facility for people with developmental disabilities, home for approx. 275 people with approx. 800 staff. Serum 25-OHD has been monitored in virtually all residents for several years and patients supplemented with vitamin D. In June, 2009, at the time of the well-publicized Wisconsin spike in H1N1 cases, two residents developed influenza-like illness (ILI) and had positive tests for H1N1: one was a long-term resident; the other, a child, was transferred to us with what was later proven to be H1N1. On the other hand, 60 staff members developed ILI or were documented to have H1N1: of 17 tested for ILI, eight were positive. An additional 43 staff members called in sick with ILI. (Approx. 11-12 staff developed ILI after working on the unit where the child was given care, several of whom had positive H1N1 tests.) So, it is rather remarkable that only two residents of 275 developed ILI, one of which did not develop it here, while 103 of 800 staff members had ILI. It appears that the spread of H1N1 was not from staff-to-resident but from resident-to-staff (most obvious in the imported case) and between staff, implying that staff were susceptible and our residents protected. Sincerely, Norris Glick, MD Central Wisconsin Center Madison, WI -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090916/a402ad88/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] special paint
they are using this or something like it to save energy in Europe. http://www.edenpuresale.com/energy-saver-paint.html?gclid=CNT2y43285wCFQ8MDQodjV8Riw Every law not based on wisdom is a menace to society. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090915/3e04e82d/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] adorable security threat
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/thailand/090911/thailands-adorable-security-threat Home Asia Thailand lt;SCRIPT language='JavaScript1.1' SRC=http://ad.doubleclick.net/adj/N5408.151778.0537113743421/B3375540.4;abr=!ie;sz=300x24;click0=http://oascentral.globalpost.com/RealMedia/ads/click_lx.ads/globalpost/countries/thailand/L29/1216987526/Frame1/GPost/Liberty_sponsor_300x24/Liberty_sponsor_300x24_6-9.html/474344702b6b71766b6e4d4143567958?;ord=1216987526?gt; lt;/SCRIPTgt; lt;NOSCRIPTgt; lt;A HREF=http://oascentral.globalpost.com/RealMedia/ads/click_lx.ads/globalpost/countries/thailand/L29/1216987526/Frame1/GPost/Liberty_sponsor_300x24/Liberty_sponsor_300x24_6-9.html/474344702b6b71766b6e4d4143567958?http://ad.doubleclick.net/jump/N5408.151778.0537113743421/B3375540.4;abr=!ie4;abr=!ie5;sz=300x24;ord=1216987526?gt; lt;IMG SRC=http://ad.doubleclick.net/ad/N5408.151778.0537113743421/B3375540.4;abr=!ie4;abr=!ie5;sz=300x24;ord=1216987526?; BORDER=0 WIDTH=300 HEIGHT=24 ALT=Click Heregt;lt;/Agt; lt;/NOSCRIPTgt; A woman takes part in the All Japan Paper Airplane Championship in Tokyo, Nov. 1, 2008. Mong Thongdee qualified for an expenses-paid, global paper airplane competition. (Yuriko Nakao/Reuters)Paper airplane, or paper tiger?Meet Mong Thongdee, a 12-year-old security threat in Thailand.By Patrick Winn - GlobalPostPublished: September 12, 2009 08:28 ET-A +ABANGKOK — Maybe the Thai government shouldn’t have deemed 12-year-old Mong Thongdee a security threat. That was the declaration that — in the public’s eye, at least — seemed to pit stodgy officials against adolescent dreams. For weeks, the media here has been smitten with Mong, a Thai-born fourth-grader with a passion for flight. “Since first grade, I’ve loved observing planes in the sky,” he told GlobalPost in a phone interview. “One day, I started building little planes out of plastic and, later on, out of paper.” Mong’s designs have proved agile. After one of his planes stayed aloft for 12.5 seconds, he qualified for an expenses-paid, global paper airplane competition held Sept. 19-20 in Chiba, Japan. Mong’s flight time has bested all others in his age bracket. But Mong, born to Burmese construction workers in the Thai city of Chiang Mai, is essentially a citizen of nowhere. Thai law insists that, by parentage, Mong belongs to Burma — a neighboring country that does not even recognize his birth. Though Mong calls Thailand home, he’s always been a “temporary resident” at risk of deportation. For stateless kids like Mong, a passport — much less citizenship — is largely out of the question. Only through talent, tears and the prime minister’s intervention has he secured temporary papers allowing a one-time-only trip to Japan. More on Thailand:Rock 'N Roll PsyOpsThai teens go for big eyes (Video)Thailand's new boat peopleAfter Thailand’s Interior Ministry ruled that Mong’s travel request countered a law protecting “national security,” Thai TV outlets broadcast footage of him sobbing and begging for help. “He was so hurt,” said Yoon Thongdee, the boy’s father. “He cried for a whole day.” As the contest’s registration deadline drew close last week, Premier Abhisit Vejjajiva decided to intervene. Mong’s next major TV appearance was taped inside parliament. There, the premier and the 12-year-old — a visitor’s pass clipped to his pastel blue school uniform — played with paper planes in front of cameras. The bureaucratic barriers suddenly melted away. Mong now appears Japan-bound via a special temporary passport. Each night, he folds planes and does push-ups to grow “strong enough for the competition,” his father said. “I’ve been making my muscles strong,” Mong said. “The prime minister told me to bring that championship back to Thailand and ‘fight, fight!’” Every law not based on wisdom is a menace to society. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090915/73988b1c/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] paint that saves energy
Is our friend still on the list that moved to Spain after retirement? Would like some info on the paint he wrote about. Kirk Every law not based on wisdom is a menace to society. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090915/a6f656fe/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] eye opener
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=6wXkI4t7nuc very informing -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090914/583432bd/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] eye opener
It is a lecture by a law professor backed up with a detective in the second half. Basically it is to convince you to not talk to the police if you value your freedom. Not guilty so why worry? Wrong answer. You better worry. Kirk --- On Mon, 9/14/09, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] eye opener To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 11:45 AM :-( Once again... Aarghh!!! YouTube! 48 min 39 sec! http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=6wXkI4t7nuc very informing But your post isn't. Sorry, but it ain't enough. From a recent discussion here with you: YouTube is useful, but IMHO it needs some value-added, some assessment, not just a link and three or four words. People are busy, they should have some idea of what they're in for. Why is it interesting/useful/funny/ridiculous/outrageous/whatever? Something like a mini movie review, one pithy paragraph would do. Your reply: Yeah Keith but when you reply we get some meat. And mine: I'm not willing to do it for you, I really, really, don't have the time, and there's no need anyway. Do it yourself, first, before posting, it's your obligation. See (please!): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg74520.html Re: [Biofuel] We The People Stimulus Package 2009/09/08 http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg74527.html Re: [Biofuel] We The People Stimulus Package 2009/09/08 Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090914/5f145b03/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] magnetic field on aluminum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0YCTwWvykw Any idea why this difference? In the eddy current equations there is nothing about polarity -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090913/2e20cfd5/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] magnetic field on aluminum
The pull is so weak a compass takes some time for the needle to steady. Also the needle has to be very free to respond at all. Seems like too weak a force to be the cause. Kirk --- On Sun, 9/13/09, doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] magnetic field on aluminum To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 11:41 AM Kirk McLoren wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0YCTwWvykw Any idea why this difference? In the eddy current equations there is nothing about polarity the reason is given in the comments below the video, having to do with the earth's magnetic fields... The actual cause of this effect was later determined to be the Earth's magnetic field. Because I live around 45 degrees north latitude, the magnet pull on the north magnets pole is mainly downward toward the ground. This additional pull is very strong and simply causes the? north pole of the magnet to tend to rotate downward more than the south pole. This effect would change depending on where you live on the Earth. -- Contentment comes not from having more, but from wanting less. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * All generalizations are false. Including this one. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This email is constructed entirely with OpenSource Software. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090913/f8aa03d2/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] 10, 000 pieces of gold for Ali Baba - scratch that - Al Qaeda and minions
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[Biofuel] Six Kamchatka Volcanoes Exhibit Activity Simultaneously
http://vostokmedia.com/n53589.html Six Kamchatka Volcanoes Exhibit Activity Simultaneously For the First Time in Sixty Years 11:49, 24.08.2009 The Gorely volcano may soon erupt PETROPAVLOVSK-KAMCHATSKY. August 24. VOSTOK-MEDIA – For the first time in sixty years six Kamchatka volcanoes exhibit activity simultaneously. They are Koryaksky, Shiveluch, Bezimyanny, Gorely, Karymsky volcanoes and Klyuchevskaya Sopka Volcano. All of them spout steam and gas almost simultaneously. “This is a rarity. For the first time in sixty years the six volcanoes show activity,” Kamchatka scientists from the Institute of Volcanology and Seismology stated. At present they are trying to figure out the reasons behind the increase of activity of the Kamchatka volcanoes. Experts assure that the volcanoes pose no hazard to life for the time being. But the gas and vapor releases do threaten the aviation. For the time being only Shiveluch of all other active volcanoes poses a threat. The volcanic vent is full-brimmed with viscous lava. Scientists agree that Gorely volcano might soon erupt for the first time in twenty two years. Water temperature of the lake located on top of the volcanic mountain is rising, which may well indicate oncoming eruption. The 1829-meter high Gorely volcano is located 75 km from Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky, reported Radio 3 station. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090911/06ddd0b6/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event
why didnt they say what rhe red non ironoxide stuff is Thermite is iron oxide and aluminum flakes. when hot enough it snags the oxygen from the iron oxde forming aluminum oxide and molten iron. simple stuff really --- On Fri, 9/11/09, Guag Meister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Guag Meister [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 7:44 PM Hi All ; Here is link to the official lab report from Netherlands which found super thermite in WTC dust. Free download. Anyone technical will appreciate the attention to detail and thoroughness of this report. It certainly raises some disturbing questions. http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/0002/0001/7TOCPJ.SGM BR Peter G. Thailand www.gac-seeds.com --- On Fri, 9/11/09, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 12:56 PM Hi Chris i think you hit the nail, david. i remember i called in sick that day and slept in. when i rolled out of bed and turned on the tube, saw those endlessly repeating videos plastered over fvery channel. the very first thing that crossed my mind was that suddenly the whole business in florida, dragging in the supreme court, it all made sense. there's a lot of questions that need answering, and a lot to be answered for wrt the events of that day (well, a lot of other days, too). whether the buildings went down on their own, or needed a little extra help, is kind of beside the point. [btw, my apologies if i'm repeating myself here, i thought i said the above yesterday but the comment seems to be missing from the thread. . . .] I read it, it's here: http://www.mail-archive.com/sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg74540.html Chris Burck Wed, 09 Sep 2009 Best Keith I'm not suggesting that some agency wasn't aware of what was about to happen, and they could have used it to bury records in WTC7, it's just that I'm not convinced that the two main buildings were brought down by anything other than the planes. If you think otherwise, please include the fact that the buildings fell from the point of impact into your theory. David ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090911/3f630a66/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event
If you wanted to cut a beam you wouldnt use dust - the reaction would be too rapid. You would use something about as coarse as ground coffee. Chemists call it the Goldschmidt process after the inventor. I think the first samples of tungsten were made this way. Kirk --- On Thu, 9/10/09, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009, 12:20 PM Hi Bob Keith, The link on my last post was dodgy. This one works better http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.commentv iewcomment_id=158 If not, the full article is available below. As for facts: The discovery of nano-thermite in the WTC dust was published in The Open Chemical Physics Journal in April 2009. How big is nano-thermite dust? Microns, micrograms, or smaller than that? Found amid about 500,000 tons of rubble, that included more than 2,500 toxic contaminants and so on. Well, maybe. But, um, wouldn't it have exploded? As I understand it (not very well) nano-thermite totally explodes, that's the point of it - down to atomic-level proximities. Hm, I was talking of pixie dust only a few posts back, and now we have it, pixie dust, only it didn't explode somehow. By the way, the editor of the Open Chemical Physics Journal resigned over the publication of the nano-thermite article. Actually it's just an online journal. Also by the way, some or most of the authors aren't just scientists who just happened along out of pure scientific interest, they have a history of 9/11 conspiracy theory activism. Some have since lost their jobs, which I suppose could mean that they weren't as disinterested as they should have been, or, of course, that TPTB were out to silence them (after the horses had fled). All best Keith Regards, Bob. CONSPIRACY THEORY OR HIDDEN TRUTH? THE 9/11 ENIGMAS... Richard Gage, AIA, Gregg Roberts, and David Chandler Richard Gage, AIA has been a practicing San Francisco Bay Area architect for more than 20 years, and is a registered member of the American Institute of Architects. Most recently he worked on a $400M mixed-use facility in Las Vegas NV. But he is also the founder and CEO of Architects Engineers for 9/11 Truth, now numbering over 800 A/E’s, calling for a new investigation into the destruction of all 3 WTC high-rises on 9/11. Gage has spoken at over 100 events, reaching 20 U.S. states and 8 countries. He has been invited to present in 14 cities Australia, New Zealand, and Japan before the end of this year. As the anniversary of the events approaches, Gage tells WAN why he thinks there are hidden depths to the destruction of the World Trade Centre... In all likelihood, you are unaware of the most important facts involving the destructions of the World Trade Center buildings. Nearly all the mainstream information sources and government officials have kept crucial information hidden from the public. This brief article will provide a clear explanation as to what actually happened to the Twin Towers and Building 7 (WTC 7) on September 11, 2001. Architects Engineers for 9/11 Truth (AE911Truth) is a non-partisan, non-profit organization now numbering over 800 technical professionals and thousands of other supporters dedicated to exposing the facts that point to the explosive destruction of all three World Trade Center (WTC) high-rises.. We are calling for a new independent investigation empowered to subpoena and question witnesses under oath. Well-documented facts prove the WTC high-rises were destroyed by explosives. The implications are grave, but we ask that you look at the facts. AE911Truth is also concerned that evidence has been distorted and covered up by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), the federal agency assigned to investigate the building collapses. World Trade Center – Building 7 47-storey WTC 7 before destruction WTC 7 was a 47-story steel-framed high-rise 100 yards from the North Tower.. Even though no airplane hit it, it collapsed rapidly and totally on 9/11, in the manner of a controlled demolition. Despite its suspicious collapse, the 9/11 Commission report does not even mention WTC 7. NIST left its analysis of the WTC 7 collapse until 2008, seven years after the events, long after all the rubble was destroyed. NIST claims WTC 7 collapsed due to “normal office fires” which created a “new phenomenon” in high-rise catastrophes: collapse caused by thermal expansion of beams. NIST claims this caused the failure of a single column – the rest just followed. Free-fall acceleration through 40,000 tons of structural steel? NIST Forced to Acknowledge Free-Fall of WTC 7 In August 2008, NIST released the draft of its final report on Building 7. In that draft NIST claims that the building took 40% longer than free-fall time to collapse the first
Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event
Got any facts rather than just claims and opinions and assertions? I mean, got any that someone like me will accept as facts? Sure. Anyone who has ever seen the results of an explosion knows that the official story is fantasy. Photographs show rubble from the building thrown across the street, past where the truck was parked. There would be no rubble there if the only blast was the truck. Blast from the truck would send rubble away from the truck and yet we find it on the side away from the building. Explosives are required to be in the building to send rubble in the other direction. Simple physics. Kirk The eyes see what the mind knows --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 8:52 AM No, he is outside the expectation of a military officer. Just too free a spirit perhaps. More like a deluded one perhaps, or a somewhat deranged one perhaps. Let's put it this way: it's sheer BS, it shouldn't even have been posted. Who else retired would step up to the plate No need to put it quite so nobly. Step up with what, is the question. Stepping up with fact-free conspiracisms and perhaps not being very honest about it isn't a contribution to anything other than confusion. - well maybe Benton K. Partin Brigadier Gen. USAF (Ret.) 8908 Captains Row Alexandria, Virginia 22308 703-780-7652. http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/PARTIN/okm.htm oklahoma bombing My word, Kirk, you will have your conspiracies won't you. Got any facts rather than just claims and opinions and assertions? I mean, got any that someone like me will accept as facts? The list itself is the same, it has a long and honorable tradition of being rigorous, as you know. We're quite happy to explore possibilities or we wouldn't have achieved what we have, but sheer conjecture dressed up as fact isn't included. Partin was a research scientist - invented the continuous rod warhead. very qualified guy. Made bombs, nice. Couldn't we have done without more and better bombs? Best Keith Kirk The eyes see what the mind knows --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 3:11 AM The stargate project was spook remote viewing. Does spook mean spy or ghost, in this context? Stargate was devoted to **psychic** remote viewing, the purported ability to psychically 'see' events, sites, or information from a great distance. Bit superfluous to say it wasn't exactly successful. Echelon works at least, on the other hand, for instance, as opposed to pixie dust. CIA put effort into it. I know, but I don't think that gives it much cred. The Soviets tried it too, that's why the US tried it. It achieved nothing. Not as woo woo as you might think. Totally woo woo, IMHO, just as I thought. Sure, maybe some people are psychic or clairvoyant or even telepathic, maybe everybody is, or could be, maybe that's how the whole biosphere really works, who knows, but trying to use clairvoyance as a reliable technique for intelligence gathering or to support conspiracy theories is ludicrous. Wikipedia will do, very easy, no need to go any further: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project Anyway, is this to suggest that a wacko like long-retired ex-Major General Stubblebine has some credibility with his 9/11 conspiracy theories, or with anything else? Because of Stargate? Stubblebine was forced to retire in 1984 and was replaced because of his obsession with the paranormal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project#Major_General_Albert_Stubblebine Not very surprising - The primary mission of military intelligence in the United States Army is to provide timely, relevant, accurate, and synchronized intelligence and electronic warfare support to tactical, operational and strategic-level commanders. Not a trivial matter. If you were a field commander would you want someone like Stubblebine doing that job for you? How do you explain the deception in the YouTube title? The headline says: U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event. ... Ah, so he WAS a major general once, and indeed head of army intelligence, but he retired **25 years ago**. Not quite the same thing eh. ... Why the misleading headline? Not deliberate? Hey, Kirk, do some checking first, will you, please? Best Keith Kirk The eyes see what the mind knows --- On Mon, 9/7/09, Douglas Woodard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Douglas Woodard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event
Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event
It proves explosives were in the building which isnt easy to do like parking a vehicle in the street. Federal buildings have security. The conspirators deny as a matter of policy. Nixon was the mile marker in that league. Anyone familiar with explosives can attest to that. It really is simple Push on something - where does it go? When an explosive turns into a gas it creates a high pressure area and applies force to whatever obstructs it. That force is outward from the center. The gvt story would have us believe rubble flew 180 degrees from the thrust, ie into the thrust. impossible. --- On Wed, 9/9/09, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 8:08 AM Got any facts rather than just claims and opinions and assertions? I mean, got any that someone like me will accept as facts? Sure. Anyone who has ever seen the results of an explosion knows that the official story is fantasy. Photographs show rubble from the building thrown across the street, past where the truck was parked. There would be no rubble there if the only blast was the truck. Blast from the truck would send rubble away from the truck and yet we find it on the side away from the building. Explosives are required to be in the building to send rubble in the other direction. Simple physics. And the other side? What does the opposite camp say? Or do all agree that those are simple facts of simple physics? Obviously not, eh, or it wouldn't be a controversy, if it's really a controversy rather than just fringe stuff. Anyway, does the opposition agree it's just simple physics? Say they do. The following question would be, and so? What does it prove? What's the favoured conclusion (both sides - or all sides, I guess there's more than two)? Keith Kirk The eyes see what the mind knows --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 8:52 AM No, he is outside the expectation of a military officer. Just too free a spirit perhaps. More like a deluded one perhaps, or a somewhat deranged one perhaps. Let's put it this way: it's sheer BS, it shouldn't even have been posted. Who else retired would step up to the plate No need to put it quite so nobly. Step up with what, is the question. Stepping up with fact-free conspiracisms and perhaps not being very honest about it isn't a contribution to anything other than confusion. - well maybe Benton K. Partin Brigadier Gen. USAF (Ret.) 8908 Captains Row Alexandria, Virginia 22308 703-780-7652. http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/PARTIN/okm.htmhttp://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/PARTIN/okm.htm oklahoma bombing My word, Kirk, you will have your conspiracies won't you. Got any facts rather than just claims and opinions and assertions? I mean, got any that someone like me will accept as facts? The list itself is the same, it has a long and honorable tradition of being rigorous, as you know. We're quite happy to explore possibilities or we wouldn't have achieved what we have, but sheer conjecture dressed up as fact isn't included. Partin was a research scientist - invented the continuous rod warhead. very qualified guy. Made bombs, nice. Couldn't we have done without more and better bombs? Best Keith Kirk The eyes see what the mind knows --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Keith Addison /mc/[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Keith Addison /mc/[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event To: /mc/[EMAIL PROTECTED]biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 3:11 AM The stargate project was spook remote viewing. Does spook mean spy or ghost, in this context? Stargate was devoted to **psychic** remote viewing, the purported ability to psychically 'see' events, sites, or information from a great distance. Bit superfluous to say it wasn't exactly successful. Echelon works at least, on the other hand, for instance, as opposed to pixie dust. CIA put effort into it. I know, but I don't think that gives it much cred. The Soviets tried it too, that's why the US tried it. It achieved nothing. Not as woo woo as you might think. Totally woo woo, IMHO, just as I thought. Sure, maybe some people are psychic or clairvoyant or even telepathic, maybe everybody is, or could be, maybe that's how the whole biosphere really works, who knows, but trying to use clairvoyance as a reliable technique for intelligence gathering or to support conspiracy theories is ludicrous. Wikipedia will do, very easy, no need to go any further: http
Re: [Biofuel] Your taxes at work (oink alert)
A comment by spoz22 Anyone who has loyalty to either party is wasting their time. There's white collar criminals all around us. I say if you can't beat 'em join 'em. Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, in our own little ways we've all sold our souls at one point, so don't cast a stone because someone has done it on a more grand scale than you. This airport is the poster child for social irresponsibility. Only in America sigh Kirk The eyes see what the mind knows --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Duncan Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Duncan Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Your taxes at work (oink alert) To: Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 7:38 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvzNj0Vobss -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090908/6e48f499/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event
No, he is outside the expectation of a military officer. Just too free a spirit perhaps. Who else retired would step up to the plate - well maybe Benton K. Partin Brigadier Gen. USAF (Ret.) 8908 Captains Row Alexandria, Virginia 22308 703-780-7652. http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/PARTIN/okm.htm oklahoma bombing Partin was a research scientist - invented the continuous rod warhead. very qualified guy. Kirk The eyes see what the mind knows --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 3:11 AM The stargate project was spook remote viewing. Does spook mean spy or ghost, in this context? Stargate was devoted to **psychic** remote viewing, the purported ability to psychically 'see' events, sites, or information from a great distance. Bit superfluous to say it wasn't exactly successful. Echelon works at least, on the other hand, for instance, as opposed to pixie dust. CIA put effort into it. I know, but I don't think that gives it much cred. The Soviets tried it too, that's why the US tried it. It achieved nothing. Not as woo woo as you might think. Totally woo woo, IMHO, just as I thought. Sure, maybe some people are psychic or clairvoyant or even telepathic, maybe everybody is, or could be, maybe that's how the whole biosphere really works, who knows, but trying to use clairvoyance as a reliable technique for intelligence gathering or to support conspiracy theories is ludicrous. Wikipedia will do, very easy, no need to go any further: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project Anyway, is this to suggest that a wacko like long-retired ex-Major General Stubblebine has some credibility with his 9/11 conspiracy theories, or with anything else? Because of Stargate? Stubblebine was forced to retire in 1984 and was replaced because of his obsession with the paranormal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project#Major_General_Albert_Stubblebine Not very surprising - The primary mission of military intelligence in the United States Army is to provide timely, relevant, accurate, and synchronized intelligence and electronic warfare support to tactical, operational and strategic-level commanders. Not a trivial matter. If you were a field commander would you want someone like Stubblebine doing that job for you? How do you explain the deception in the YouTube title? The headline says: U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event. ... Ah, so he WAS a major general once, and indeed head of army intelligence, but he retired **25 years ago**. Not quite the same thing eh. ... Why the misleading headline? Not deliberate? Hey, Kirk, do some checking first, will you, please? Best Keith Kirk The eyes see what the mind knows --- On Mon, 9/7/09, Douglas Woodard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Douglas Woodard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 9:42 AM No conspiracy was needed. Bin Laden knew what the U.S. wanted: an excuse for U.S. armies in the Middle East. The U.S. knew what Bin Laden wanted first: a major strike at the U.S., by preference at the World Trade centre (they had tried before, and it was highly symbolic). They differed on what the result of U.S. armies in the Middle East would be. Points to Bin Laden. Doug Woodard St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada Keith Addison wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFP_zKYU3aENR=1 Aarghh!! Youtube! Who's got 5 min 16 sec to spare? This is quicker... The headline says: U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event. But is he the Head of US Military Intelligence? No. It takes only the first 5 sec of Youtube for him to state that his name is Major General Albert Stubblebine, and another 10 sec to find this at wikipedia: Major General Albert Bert N. Stubblebine III was the commanding general of the United States Army Intelligence and Security Command from 1981 to 1984, when he retired from the Army. He is known for his interest in parapsychology and was a supporter of the Stargate Project. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Stubblebine Ah, so he WAS a major general once, and indeed head of army intelligence, but he retired **25 years ago**. Not quite the same thing eh. (Walked through any walls lately Bert?) That saved 5 min 1 sec, and gave a much better result. Why the misleading headline? Not deliberate? Matthew Rothschild of the Progressive again: Enough of the 9/11 Conspiracy Theories, Already http://www.alternet.org/story/41601/ If it doesn't start off with the preferred conclusion
Re: [Biofuel] We The People Stimulus Package
Yeah Keith but when you reply we get some meat. Maybe you dont fully realize how unusual you are. You surpass my best efforts in your sleep. I saw that video and was a bit overwhelmed. Makes sense somebody paid for it - was well done. Not an amateur effort. Kirk The eyes see what the mind knows --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] We The People Stimulus Package To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 3:11 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYscnFpEyAeurl=http%3A%2F%2F quite a presentation Kirk Aarghh!! 6 min 35 secs! So what should we do, round up all the immigrants and aliens and put them in death camps or what? Opt for the military solution? Is that what the real Tom Payne would have thought? Anyway, I wouldn't call it a presentation, it's a production, with a script. Do you think the guy in the video wrote the script? If not then who did write it? Whoever, it doesn't come cheap. How often do you see production values like that on YouTube? Wouldn't it be an idea to follow the money, or at least look with some suspicion at what all that money paid for? Here again, something pretending to be what it's not, and it's obvious. We the people my ass. The person pretending to be Tom Payne is Bob Basso, an actor/presenter who's up for commercial hire. http://www.bobbasso.com/ His (?) YouTube offerings created some minor flurry when he first uploaded them six months ago. This should take less than 6 min 35 secs to read: http://moonslurpies.blogspot.com/2009/03/real-revolution-or-tom-paine-is-fake.html THURSDAY, MARCH 26, 2009 Tom Paine is a Psyop Indeed. YouTube is useful, but IMHO it needs some value-added, some assessment, not just a link and three or four words. People are busy, they should have some idea of what they're in for. Why is it interesting/useful/funny/ridiculous/outrageous/whatever? Something like a mini movie review, one pithy paragraph would do. Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090908/b7c52cfa/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Fw: [Longevity] HIN1 is probably from a laboratory says NEJM
so they finally admit it. Kirk The eyes see what the mind knows --- On Tue, 9/8/09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Longevity] HIN1 is probably from a laboratory says NEJM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: AAR [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 5:25 AM Source of HIN1 is probably a laboratory says New England Journal of Medicine Monday, 07 September 2009 11:11 In a report that appeared in the New England Journal of Medicine, scientists say that the reemergence of the H1N1 virus in 1977 is unexplained and probably represents reintroduction to humans from a laboratory source. http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/NEJMra0904322 Figure 1. Emergence of Influenza A (H1N1) Viruses from Birds and Swine into Humans. The diagram shows the important events and processes in the emergence of influenza A (H1N1) viruses during the past 91 years. Avian, swine, and human populations are represented in the top, middle, and bottom of the diagram, respectively. Epidemic or zoonotic viruses are shown as wide horizontal arrows (white for avian viruses, light blue or pink for swine viruses, and dark blue for human viruses). Cross-species transmissions are shown as vertical dashed lines, with thick lines for transfers that gave rise to sustained transmission in the new host and thin lines for those that were transient and resulted in a self-limited number of cases. Principal dates are shown along the bottom of the diagram. The disappearance of H1N1 in 1957 most likely represents competition by the emerging pandemic H2N2 strain in the face of population immunity to H1N1. The reemergence in 1977 is unexplained and probably represents reintroduction to humans from a laboratory source. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Note: This forum is for discussion of health related subjects but under no circumstances should any information published here be considered a substitute for personal medical advice from a qualified physician. -the owner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Longevity/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Longevity/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090908/7f7f8d76/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Brown Shirts?
The FBI Deputizes Business By Matthew Rothschild, March 2008 Issue 23,000 Businesspeople Get Threat Info from FBI Before Public. In Turn, They Supply Tips to FBI. Two Members of Private Sector Group Say They Have “Shoot to Kill” Permission in Emergency. These are the astonishing findings in Rothschild's cover story of the March issue of The Progressive.Today, more than 23,000 representatives of private industry are working quietly with the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security. The members of this rapidly growing group, called InfraGard, receive secret warnings of terrorist threats before the public does—and, at least on one occasion, before elected officials. In return, they provide information to the government, which alarms the ACLU. But there may be more to it than that. One business executive, who showed me his InfraGard card, told me they have permission to “shoot to kill” in the event of martial law… [link to www.progressive.org] [link to www.nym-infragard.us] The eyes see what the mind knows -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090906/e3975361/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event
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Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event
The stargate project was spook remote viewing. CIA put effort into it. Not as woo woo as you might think. Kirk The eyes see what the mind knows --- On Mon, 9/7/09, Douglas Woodard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Douglas Woodard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 9:42 AM No conspiracy was needed. Bin Laden knew what the U.S. wanted: an excuse for U.S. armies in the Middle East. The U.S. knew what Bin Laden wanted first: a major strike at the U.S., by preference at the World Trade centre (they had tried before, and it was highly symbolic). They differed on what the result of U.S. armies in the Middle East would be. Points to Bin Laden. Doug Woodard St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada Keith Addison wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFP_zKYU3aENR=1 Aarghh!! Youtube! Who's got 5 min 16 sec to spare? This is quicker... The headline says: U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event. But is he the Head of US Military Intelligence? No. It takes only the first 5 sec of Youtube for him to state that his name is Major General Albert Stubblebine, and another 10 sec to find this at wikipedia: Major General Albert Bert N. Stubblebine III was the commanding general of the United States Army Intelligence and Security Command from 1981 to 1984, when he retired from the Army. He is known for his interest in parapsychology and was a supporter of the Stargate Project. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Stubblebine Ah, so he WAS a major general once, and indeed head of army intelligence, but he retired **25 years ago**. Not quite the same thing eh. (Walked through any walls lately Bert?) That saved 5 min 1 sec, and gave a much better result. Why the misleading headline? Not deliberate? Matthew Rothschild of the Progressive again: Enough of the 9/11 Conspiracy Theories, Already http://www.alternet.org/story/41601/ If it doesn't start off with the preferred conclusion-of-choice and then go in search of the facts to prove it, but instead simply goes in search of facts, along with all the patient and careful cross-checking that takes, and then emerges with a fact-based conclusion that checks out, or even with just some hard facts without a conclusion... well then, that's different. But AFAIK it hasn't happened yet, and don't hold yer breath. Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090907/a902018e/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] We The People Stimulus Package
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYscnFpEyAeurl=http%3A%2F%2F quite a presentation Kirk The eyes see what the mind knows -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090907/8aaf21e9/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] 500 nations
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6736846601041698993 here is a pretty good account of the Native Americans, 8 hrsso get some snacks and have a great day 500 Nations ! Enjoy Your talent is God’s gift to you. What you do with it is your gift back to God -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090904/7485bd75/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] If you catch the flu
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mucolytic_agent http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guaifenesin The danger is pneumonia and an expectorant can help prevent that. I would appreciate herbal knowledge in this regard Thanks Kirk Your talent is God’s gift to you. What you do with it is your gift back to God -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090904/b6f5eb8a/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] 28
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[Biofuel] Not exactly Mayberry
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[Biofuel] thimerosal
“You couldn’t even construct a study that shows thimerosal is safe,” says Haley, who heads the chemistry department at the University of Kentucky. “It’s just too darn toxic. If you inject thimerosal into an animal, its brain will sicken. If you apply it to living tissue, the cells die. If you put it in a petri dish, the culture dies. Knowing these things, it would be shocking if one could inject it into an infant without causing damage.” http://www.pandemicfluonline.com/?p=510 Vaccinations: Deadly Immunity, by Robert F. Kennedy, jr. Your talent is God’s gift to you. What you do with it is your gift back to God The human brain should be used for processing, not storage. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090904/5227ad47/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] fish in decline
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[Biofuel] WHO ignores scientific evidence, says The Lancet
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[Biofuel] why things are the way they are
GEORGE CARLIN - Who Owns You Americans http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2011028/george_carlin_who_owns_you_americans/ George tells it like it is. He is missed. Kirk Your talent is God’s gift to you. What you do with it is your gift back to God -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090902/06d9f59b/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Fw: [Longevity] Historical facts about the dangers (and failures) of vaccines
another nice compilation Kirk --- On Tue, 9/1/09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Longevity] Historical facts about the dangers (and failures) of vaccines To: Cc: AAR [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 8:21 AM Historical facts about the dangers (and failures) of vaccines On November 2nd, 2000, the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) announced that its members voted at their 57th annual meeting in St Louis to pass a resolution calling for an end to mandatory childhood vaccines. The resolution passed without a single no vote. Saturday, August 29, 2009 by: Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor http://www.naturalnews.com/026940_vaccines_vaccination_health.html (NaturalNews) Vaccines are the quackery of modern medicine. Mass vaccination programs not only fail to protect the population from infectious disease, they actually accelerate the spread of disease in many cases. Many website have cropped up over the last few years to counter the pro-vaccine propaganda put out by drug companies (who profit from vaccines) and health regulators (who serve the drug companies). One of those sites is www.VaccinationDebate.com , which lists the following historical facts about vaccines: .. In the USA in 1960, two virologists discovered that both polio vaccines were contaminated with the SV 40 virus which causes cancer in animals as well as changes in human cell tissue cultures. Millions of children had been injected with these vaccines. (Med Jnl of Australia 17/3/1973 p555) .. In 1871-2, England, with 98% of the population aged between 2 and 50 vaccinated against smallpox, it experienced its worst ever smallpox outbreak with 45,000 deaths. During the same period in Germany, with a vaccination rate of 96%, there were over 125,000 deaths from smallpox. (http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/020...) The Hadwen Documents .. In Germany, compulsory mass vaccination against diphtheria commenced in 1940 and by 1945 diphtheria cases were up from 40,000 to 250,000. (Don't Get Stuck, Hannah Allen) .. In 1967, Ghana was declared measles free by the World Health Organisation after 96% of its population was vaccinated. In 1972, Ghana experienced one of its worst measles outbreaks with its highest ever mortality rate. (Dr H Albonico, MMR Vaccine Campaign in Switzerland, March 1990) .. In 1977, Dr Jonas Salk who developed the first polio vaccine, testified along with other scientists, that mass inoculation against polio was the cause of most polio cases throughout the USA since 1961. (Science 4/4/77 Abstracts ) .. In the UK between 1970 and 1990, over 200,000 cases of whooping cough occurred in fully vaccinated children. (Community Disease Surveillance Centre, UK) .. In the 1970's a tuberculosis vaccine trial in India involving 260,000 people revealed that more cases of TB occurred in the vaccinated than the unvaccinated. (The Lancet 12/1/80 p73) .. In 1978, a survey of 30 States in the US revealed that more than half of the children who contracted measles had been adequately vaccinated. (The People's Doctor, Dr R Mendelsohn) .. The February 1981 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association found that 90% of obstetricians and 66% of pediatricians refused to take the rubella vaccine. .. In 1979, Sweden abandoned the whooping cough vaccine due to its ineffectiveness. Out of 5,140 cases in 1978, it was found that 84% had been vaccinated three times! (BMJ 283:696-697, 1981) .. In the USA, the cost of a single DPT shot had risen from 11 cents in 1982 to $11.40 in 1987. The manufacturers of the vaccine were putting aside $8 per shot to cover legal costs and damages they were paying out to parents of brain damaged children and children who died after vaccination. (The Vine, Issue 7, January 1994, Nambour, Qld) .. In Oman between 1988 and 1989, a polio outbreak occurred amongst thousands of fully vaccinated children. The region with the highest attack rate had the highest vaccine coverage. The region with the lowest attack rate had the lowest vaccine coverage. (The Lancet, 21/9/91) .. In 1990, a UK survey involving 598 doctors revealed that over 50% of them refused to have the Hepatitis B vaccine despite belonging to the high risk group urged to be vaccinated. (British Med Jnl, 27/1/1990) .. In the USA, from July 1990 to November 1993, the US Food and Drug Administration counted a total of 54,072 adverse reactions following vaccination. The FDA admitted that this number represented only 10% of the real total, because most doctors were refusing to report vaccine injuries. In other words, adverse reactions for this period exceeded half a million! (National Vaccine Information Centre, March 2, 1994) .. In 1990, the Journal of the American Medical Association had an article on measles which stated Although more than 95% of school-aged children
[Biofuel] Seed vault in Arctic
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[Biofuel] quite a compilation
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[Biofuel] LAB ORIGINS OF THE 2009 NOVEL SWINE FLU
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Re: [Biofuel] Ring Them Bells
thank you - nice find there are three things in life: the words you say wrong, the words you say right and the words you don´t say. --- On Sun, 8/30/09, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] Ring Them Bells To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 11:52 AM Ring Them Bells Bob Dylan Oh Mercy (1989) Ring them bells ye heathen from the city that dreams Ring them bells from the sanctuaries 'cross the valleys and streams For they're deep and they're wide And the world's on its side And time is running backwards and so is the bride Ring them bells Saint Peter where the four winds blow Ring them bells with an iron hand so the people will know Oh it's rush hour now On the wheel and the plow And the sun is going down upon the sacred cow Ring them bells sweet Martha for the poor man's son Ring them bells so the world will know that God is one For the shepherd is asleep Where the willows weep And the mountains are filled with lost sheep Ring them bells for the blind and the deaf Ring them bells for all of us who are left Ring them bells for the chosen few Who will judge the many When the game is through Ring them bells for the time that flies For the child that cries When innocence dies Ring them bells Saint Catherine from the top of the room Ring them from the fortress for the lilies that bloom For the lines are long And the fighting is strong And they're breaking down the distance between right and wrong Enter the code in the image and download the mp3, 4.1 Mb. http://beemp3.com/download.php?file=4521708song= Listen and delete. All music on is presented only for fact-finding listening. You MUST remove a song from the computer after listening. Fact-finding listening, right. Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090830/d6438dfb/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] An interesting speaker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfR03KsAA40feature=channel_page Can Obama Save the Economy? Part 1This man talks to the heart of the problem. Kirk Never before have so many known so little about so much. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090828/b38dc286/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Measles deaths 1901 to vaccination
http://www.whale.to/m/measlesdeaths1.html The measles death decline graph provided shows that the measles vaccine had nothing to do with the decline in deaths, and has not affected the number of children hospitalised during epidemic years since its introduction. Never before have so many known so little about so much. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090826/be9f3ef4/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Game theory trumps everything...
The people that plan these things make projections based on their own reality. When you try to manipulate people that dont share your version it is easy to err. Kirk Never before have so many known so little about so much. --- On Tue, 8/25/09, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Game theory trumps everything... To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 11:45 AM Or try a little hopelessness... Weaponizing Psychology Treating People Like Dogs By Peter Chamberlin August 24, 2009 http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23355.htm Hi Bob The subject heading claims game theory trumps all. Freud said it was sex. :-) Does that include our valiant attempts here to wean ourselves off fossil fuel? Are we just whistling in the dark while the game players manipulate us? It's scary stuff, but there's lots of scary stuff about these days, many different brands. IMHO it might help explain why Israel is being so overconfident and in-your-face, if their game theorists keep telling them they'll get away with it. Do they really get away with it? Meister games theorist Aumann won the Nobel Prize in 2005, and that's also about when the AIPAC/Israel Lobby/whatever started losing its death-grip on policy and public opinion in the US and the rest of the Western world. (Remember the Oil and Israel thread?) Meanwhile Jimmy Carter et al, Mearsheimer and Walt et al, and a rising tide of critics have been joined by Jewish organisations in most Western countries in opposing colonial Zionism, the Western media publish reports and views on Israel and Palestine that wouldn't have seen the light of day five years ago, and the American public was (is) just as outraged as everyone else by last year's attack on Gaza. And so on and on, wherever you look, cracks in the concrete. Nonetheless, so far, they got away with it, they didn't have to pay yet. Maybe the Israeli strategists share Dick Cheney's opinion of public opinion. He didn't pay yet either. But would you like to be Dick Cheney? Anyway, even if they really are both winning and getting away with it, they're only sowing dragon's teeth. Manipulating us, I don't think so. Try this though... Manufacturing Poor People By Vi Ransel 6/18/09 http://thomaspainescorner.wordpress.com/2009/06/19/manufacturing-poor-people/ Best Keith How Israel Wages Game Theory http://intifada-palestine.com/2009/08/20/how-israel-wages-game-theory-warfa re/ Warfare http://gerontios48.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/dove.jpg ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090825/2083fd62/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] hole in earth's shield
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPLjnqS8UeY was watching a tv show last night they said a magnetic storm /coronal mass ejection in 1859 was so powerful that if it happened now it would take months to get the grid back up due to transformer loss. Much much bigger than the one that took Quebec Hydro down. This is amplified by the decline in the earth's magnetic field. All sorts of good news :( The true perfection of man lies not in what man has, but in what man is. Eyes are blind. You have to look with the heart. What's most important is invisible. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090823/bc86b559/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] become a farmer
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[Biofuel] lest you doubt 9-11 was an inside job
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[Biofuel] Depopulation? In their own words
Depopulation? Several Globalists in Their Own Words Is there motive and intent that can be gleaned from the words of several global leaders? Perhaps, the best way to answer this question is to look for consistent patterns in the quotes of several global leaders, themselves. Society has no business to permit degenerates to reproduce their kind —Theodore Roosevelt Malthus has been vindicated; reality is finally catching up with Malthus. The Third World is overpopulated, it’s an economic mess, and there’s no way they could get out of it with this fast-growing population. Our philosophy is: back to the village. —Dr. Arne Schiotz, World Wildlife Fund Director of Conservation, stated such, ironically, in 1984: “A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal. —Ted Turner, in an interview with Audubon magazine “There is a single theme behind all our work–we must reduce population levels. Either governments do it our way, through nice clean methods, or they will get the kinds of mess that we have in El Salvador, or in Iran or in Beirut. Population is a political problem. Once population is out of control, it requires authoritarian government, even fascism, to reduce it…. “Our program in El Salvador didn’t work. The infrastructure was not there to support it. There were just too goddamned many people…. To really reduce population, quickly, you have to pull all the males into the fighting and you have to kill significant numbers of fertile age females…. The quickest way to reduce population is through famine, like in Africa, or through disease like the Black Death…. —Thomas Ferguson, State Department Office of Population Affairs A cancer is an uncontrolled multiplication of cells; the population explosion is an uncontrolled multiplication of people We must shift our efforts from the treatment of the symptoms to the cutting out of the cancer. The operation will demand many apparently brutal and heartless decisions. —Stanford Professor Paul Ehrlich in The Population Bomb In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it is just as bad not to say it. —J. Cousteau, 1991 explorer and UNESCO courier I believe that human overpopulation is the fundamental problem on Earth Today and, We humans have become a disease, the Humanpox. —Dave Foreman, Sierra Club and co founder of Earth First! We must speak more clearly about sexuality, contraception, about abortion, about values that control population, because the ecological crisis, in short, is the population crisis. Cut the population by 90% and there aren't enough people left to do a great deal of ecological damage. —Mikhail Gorbachev Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government. —Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991 The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer. —Dr. Henry Kissinger New York Times, Oct. 28, 1973 Depopulation should be the highest priority of foreign policy towards the third world, because the US economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less developed countries.. —Dr. Henry Kissinger “Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac,” and “The elderly are useless eaters” —Dr. Henry Kissinger “World population needs to be decreased by 50%” —Dr. Henry Kissinger We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order. —David Rockefeller “War and famine would not do. Instead, disease offered the most efficient and fastest way to kill the billions that must soon die if the population crisis is to be solved. AIDS is not an efficient killer because it is too slow. My favorite candidate for eliminating 90 percent of the world's population is airborne Ebola (Ebola Reston), because it is both highly lethal and it kills in days, instead of years. “We've got airborne diseases with 90 percent mortality in humans. Killing humans. Think about that. “You know, the bird flu's good, too. For everyone
[Biofuel] dollar collapse immenent?
The Chinese Gold Market By Simon Black · 2 comments I’ve been spending a lot of time this week talking to my sources in China, one of whom is inside one of the country’s sovereign wealth funds (SWF). He could not discuss the details of the Rio Tinto bribery scandal, but indicated that it was far more about saving face and establishing position than anything else. He also indicated that the SWF analysts were working around the clock trying to put deals together… for China it’s a race against the clock for how fast they can convert their $2 trillion in US dollar holdings into strategic assets– namely oil and gold. At today’s deflated prices, putting together a really good billion dollar deal is a difficult thing to do. Putting together 2,000 of them is impossible. Doing it before the dollar collapses? Not a Chinaman’s chance. And they know it. So as a hedge, the government appears to be pumping up demand for gold and silver among the public, possibly preparing them for an imminent dollar decline. I asked Christine, my China insider you heard from last week, to shed some light on the Chinese gold market to provide some clarity: It’s funny you ask, I just got off the phone with one of the key executives at the Shanghai Gold Exchange. You know, for the past 50 years, the Chinese government has controlled the distribution of all types of gold. They dictated prices and forbade citizens from owning or trading any type of precious metal. It didn’t matter if you were an individual investor, a gold miner or a processor…it was state asset. In 1959, if you were caught with gold in your possession you were thrown in jail. The result of this policy has been widespread indifference and very little understanding for precious metals as asset class or sound money. The government is now taking radical measures to change that. Fast forward to 2009– the FIRST year that the Chinese public is allowed to own physical gold or silver. The government is now trying to drum “gold/silver as an investment” into their heads at every corner. Banking products, investment products, checking accounts linked to gold. In fact, Chinese have more precious metal investment options than Americans, and the statistics are alarming: In 1950, China had next to nothing in gold reserves. Today they rank 10th globally, and they are frantically mining for more on their own soil. For the past half a century, the Chinese had the lowest per capita consumption of gold in the world. Next year, Chinese gold demand will likely surpass that of India. This year, the government banned silver from being exported… and by July, it was being promoted as an “investment” to the Chinese public on the 6 o’clock news. You do the math– how does that affect global demand if just 10% of Chinese begin to perceive silver as an investment? Will the Chinese turn into goldbugs overnight? No. Over the next 5 years? Probably, yes. I like your long-term silver option strategy for this reason. Even the smallest shift in Chinese investor/consumer preferences can dramatically alter global demand and commodity prices. From what I’m seeing from the ground, the Chinese government is engaging in one of the most explosive financial marketing campaigns in history. Instead of Maoist propaganda, though, they are attempting to change the entire perception of gold/silver in the Chinese public. Simply put, the Chinese government is trying to trigger a national gold craze…and it’s working. The Chinese public now has gold trading platforms on steroids. You can buy silver bullion or gold bars at any Chinese bank in four different sizes. Wealth management products tied to gold are skyrocketing in popularity, and the public can now instantly buy, sell, and trade gold 24 hours a day in five different forms with different eight types of services. Also, for the first time in history, Chinese investors can even trade gold abroad (in London) with the swipe of a “Lucky Gold” card. I can’t even get Bank of America to open a foreign currency account. http://www.sovereignman.com/finance/the-chinese-gold-market/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090814/4222bbde/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Chevy Volt
http://greenfuelsforecast.com/ArticleDetails.php?articleID=737 Just in: Energizer Bunny arrested, charged with battery -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090813/9ef08704/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Chilling stuff...
Didnt Mussolini say Fascism is corporatism? I think their definition of truth is whatever they can get us to believe. Why else did they dumb our society down? Kirk Just in: Energizer Bunny arrested, charged with battery --- On Tue, 8/11/09, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] Chilling stuff... To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 10:38 AM Fascist America: Are We There Yet? by Sara Robinson Published on Sunday, August 9, 2009 by OurFuture.org http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/08/09-5 The Five Stages of Fascism Robert O. Paxton The Journal of Modern History, Vol. 70, No. 1. (Mar., 1998), pp. 1-23. http://www.salemstate.edu/~cmauriello/pdfEuropean/Paxton_Five%20Stages%20of%20Fascism.pdf Inside Story on Town Hall Riots: Right-Wing Shock Troops Do Corporate America's Dirty Work By Adele M. Stan, AlterNet Posted on August 10, 2009 http://www.alternet.org/story/141860/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090811/2d261417/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Americans, stop your complacency
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[Biofuel] tarred and feathered
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-479146/Brutality-justice-The-truth-tarred-feathered-drug-dealer.html They are so like children. We are not ... you big poopy-head. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090806/addaeeae/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] sutton books online
http://www.reformed-theology.org/html/books.htm THE BEST ENEMY MONEY CAN BUY By Antony C. Sutton Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler By Antony C. Sutton Wall Street and the Bolshevik revolution By Antony C. Sutton SRT Newsletters and miscellaneous Calvinism in History, by Loraine Boettner Back They are so like children. We are not ... you big poopy-head. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090806/aeae9377/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Louise Fresco on feeding the whole world
http://www.ted.com/talks/louise_fresco_on_feeding_the_whole_world.html TED Talks are great! Kirk Don't sneer at educated people, Mr. Wormwood. If you became ill, heaven forbid, your doctor would be a college graduate. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090805/996acaab/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] 2 cent electricity
nope - still in the lab, The physics is a bit esoteric as well. The people involved seem credentialed though. All the best Kirk Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not - Jefferson --- On Tue, 8/4/09, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] 2 cent electricity To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 6:44 AM http://www.examiner.com/x-6495-US-Intelligence-Examiner~y2009m8d2-Renewable-energy-source-takes-off-BlackLight-Power Renewable energy source takes off: BlackLight Power, by Fred Burks, August 2, US Intelligence Examiner ... why haven't you heard about BlackLight Power and its highly unusual new energy resource? Could it be that the media and the global elite don't want people to know about energy sources which could seriously threaten the current oil-dominated energy economy? Right, it's a plot by the global elite. That's a bit of a telltale. So many energy schemes say that, it's all a plot by whoever, and so many of them never seem to come to anything, and meanwhile there are real energy solutions that are working now, and with ne'er a claim about conspiracies and cover-ups. Which is not to say that there aren't any conspiracies and cover-ups, there most certainly are, http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg10943.html eg, but still. Fred Burks says it often: Hundreds of military and government witnesses have gone on record claiming a major cover-up around UFOs. Among them are a former chief of the CIA, the former chiefs of defense of the UK and Canada, and two NASA astronauts, including Edgar Mitchell, the sixth man to walk on the moon. Could the moon landing video tapes have contained some images with UFOs or other images that they didn't want the public to see? -- NASA Moon Landing Videos: The Mystery Deepens, by Fred Burks http://www.examiner.com/x-6495-US-Intelligence-Examiner~y2009m7d16-NASA-Moon-Landing-Videos-The-Mystery-Deepens Anyway, whether at 2 cents or whatever, one thing it doesn't seem to say is whether or not it's actually producing power, beyond the laboratory toy stage and licensing the rights and so on. Or did I get it all wrong. (I didn't read the PR puffs.) Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090804/8fe1d1ef/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Fw: CIA director issues a warning to Congress
wsws.org CIA director issues a warning to Congress 4 August 2009 In an extraordinary column published Sunday in the Washington Post, the director of the CIA, Leon Panetta, issued a blunt warning to the US Congress to forego any investigation of the agency’s operations under the Bush administration. “I’ve become increasingly concerned that the focus on the past, especially in Congress, threatens to distract the CIA from its crucial core missions: intelligence collection, analysis and covert action,” Panetta writes. In other words, accounting for the crimes of the past must not be allowed to interfere with the crimes of the present and the future. Panetta’s essay is ostensibly aimed at reforging what he sees as the proper relationship between an elected Congress and US imperialism’s powerful covert intelligence agency. Essentially, he argues that this relationship should be founded on “consensus”; i.e., Congress agreeing to the secret operations in which the CIA is engaged and keeping its mouth shut. “We need broad agreement between the executive and legislative branches on what our intelligence organizations do and why,” Panetta writes. Presumably, he is referring to the bipartisan support that has long existed in Washington for crimes ranging from the assassination of popular leaders like Patrice Lumumba to the overthrow of elected governments in Iran, Guatemala, Chile and elsewhere, to the waging of covert wars from Nicaragua to Angola that claimed the lives of hundreds of thousands. Panetta complains that the “consensus” has broken down as a result of policies carried out over the last eight years, citing in particular “the detention and interrogation of terrorists,” by which he means the abduction, arbitrary imprisonment, “extraordinary rendition,” torture and murder of thousands of individuals—most of them guilty of nothing—in the so-called “war on terrorism.” The breakdown of consensus, he adds, has led to “growing frustration and more frequent leaks of properly classified information.” What “properly classified information,” he doesn’t say. Among the leaks that have shaken the CIA in recent years were those dealing with its “black sites”—secret prisons scattered around the globe where people were subjected to torture—and the existence and destruction of videotapes showing CIA personnel engaged in torture. The secrecy surrounding such practices was not a matter of the CIA having “properly classified information,” but rather its cover-up of crimes, which is itself a criminal offense. Claiming that the CIA has abandoned the illegal policies carried out under the Bush administration, Panetta stresses that “the CIA implements presidential decisions; we do not make them.” He adds, “Yet my agency continues to pay a price for enduring disputes over policies that no longer exist.” Torture, assassination and arbitrary detention are violations of both US and international law for which no one responsible has paid any price. The argument made by Panetta boils down to the defense made infamous during the Nuremberg war crimes trials at the close of World War II: “We were only following orders.” Rejected then, it remains illegitimate today under international law, which also requires that governments prosecute citizens who are credibly charged with engaging in torture. President Obama—like his predecessor in the White House—has effectively repudiated the treaties on torture signed by Washington by publicly guaranteeing a blanket amnesty for the CIA. But Panetta doesn’t stop at those at the CIA who were “following orders.” He makes it clear that impunity must be extended to those who gave the orders as well. “The time has come for both Democrats and Republicans to take a deep breath and recognize the reality of what happened after Sept. 11, 2001,” Panetta insists. “The question is not the sincerity or the patriotism of those who were dealing with the aftermath of Sept. 11. The country was frightened, and political leaders were trying to respond as best they could.” What nonsense! Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and others were not patriotic leaders “trying to respond as best they could” on behalf of a “frightened country.” They headed a conspiratorial cabal in the White House that used the attacks as a pretext to launch wars of aggression long in preparation against Afghanistan and Iraq—wars aimed not at protecting the American people, but asserting US hegemony over the oil-rich regions of Central Asia and the Persian Gulf. They deliberately fomented and exploited fear to secure acquiescence to a policy of militarist violence abroad and far-ranging attacks on democratic rights at home. What role the CIA itself played in allowing and even facilitating these attacks—attributed to the agency’s former “asset” Osama bin Laden—is no doubt another area of the past from which Panetta
[Biofuel] 2 cent electricity
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[Biofuel] medical volunteers in America
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[Biofuel] 545 versus 300,000,000
545 vs 300,000,000 EVERY CITIZEN NEEDS TO READ THIS AND THINK ABOUT WHAT THIS JOURNALIST HAS SCRIPTED IN THIS MESSAGE. READ IT AND THEN REALLY THINK ABOUT OUR CURRENT POLITICAL DEBACLE. Charley Reese has been a journalist for 49 years. 545 PEOPLE By Charlie Reese Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.. Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits? Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes? You and I don't propose a federal budget. The president does. You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does. You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.. You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does. You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does. One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country. I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank. I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason.. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a president to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes. Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party. What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits.. The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it. The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? Nancy Pelosi. She is the leader of the majority party. She and fellow House members, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.. It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist. If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair. If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red .. If the Army Marines are in IRAQ , it's because they want them in IRAQ. If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way. There are no insoluble government problems. Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like the economy, inflation, or politics that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do. Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible. They, and they alone, have the power. They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses. Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees... We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess! Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.. What you do with this article now that you have read it... Is up to you. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090803/33b9e595/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey
[Biofuel] 10 Minute Charge for Student-Built Electric Car
‘ten minute’ charge will give you a mileage of about 200 miles. MIT students are trying to produce an alternative to fossil fuel driven cars. They are trying to build up a car that is clean and green but provides good competition to recent automobiles. They claim that their electric cars can be charged fully within ten minutes. Read more at http://www.earthalternate.co.cc/ __._,_.___ Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090802/912c75ba/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] before you buy solar tiles
you need to view this page before you spend your money http://ecdfan.blogspot.com/2009/06/marketing-of-solar-tile.html Kirk Never pretend to be a unicorn by sticking a plunger on your head. Martín Espada -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090802/a377e09d/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] energy and the future
http://campfire.theoildrum.com/node/5627 great website to explore Kirk A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul. -George Bernard Shaw -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090802/ab9bacd3/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] funniest thing Ive read in ages
For those that remember when we were young and able to run around with a sharp stick, play with fire and life was good. Around age 10, my dad got me one of those little badass compound bow beginner kits. Of course, the first month I went around our land sticking arrows in anything that could be stuck by an arrow. Did you know that a 1955 40-horse Farmall tractor will take six rounds before it goes down? Tough sumbich.. That got boring, so being the 10 yr. old Dukes of Hazard fan that I was, I quickly advanced to taking strips of cut up T-shirt doused in chainsaw gas tied around the end and was sending flaming arrows all over the place. Keep in mind this was 99.999% humidity swampland so there really was not any fire danger. I'll put it this way - a set of posthole diggers and a 3 ft. hole and you had yourself a well. One summer afternoon, I was shooting flaming arrows into a large rotten oak stump in our backyard. I looked over under the carport and saw a shiny brand new can of starting fluid (ether). The light bulb went off. I grabbed the can and set it on the stump. I thought that it would probably just spray out in a disappointing manner... Lets face it, to a 10 yr. old mouth-breather like myself, ether really doesn't sound flammable. So, I went back into the house and got a 1-pound can of pyrodex (black powder for muzzle loader rifles). At this point, I set the can of ether on the stump and opened up the can of black powder. My intentions were to sprinkle a little bit around the ether can but it all sort of dumped out on me. No biggie... 1 lb. pyrodex and 16 oz. ether should make a loud pop, kind of like a firecracker you know? You know what? Screw that. I'm going back in the house for the other can. Yes, I got a second can of pyrodex and dumped it too. Now we're cookin'. I stepped back about 15 ft. and lit the two-stroke arrow. I drew the nock to my cheek and took aim. As I released I heard a clunk as the arrow launched from my bow. In a slow motion time frame, I turned to see my dad getting out of the truck... OH SHIT! He just got home from work. So help me it took 10 minutes for that arrow to go from my bow to the can. My dad was walking towards me in slow motion with a weird look in his eyes. I turned back towards my target just in time to see the arrow pierce the starting fluid can right at the bottom. Right through the main pile of pyrodex and into the can. Oh Shit! When the shock wave hit it knocked me off my feet. I don't know if it was the actual compression wave that threw me back or just a reflex jerk back from 235 decibels of sound. I caught a half a millisecond glimpse of the violence during the initial explosion and I will tell you there was dust, grass, and bugs all hovering 1 ft. above the ground as far as I could see. It was like a little low to the ground layer of dust fog full of grasshoppers, spiders, and a crawfish or two. The daylight turned purple. Let me repeat this...THE DAYLIGHT TURNED PURPLE. There was a big sweetgum tree out by the gate going into the pasture. Notice I said was. That sum-of-a-biatch got up and ran off. So here I am, on the ground blown completely out of my shoes with my Thundercats t-shirt shredded, my dad is on the other side of the carport having what I can only assume is a Vietnam flashback: ECHO BRAVO CHARLIE YOUR BRINGIN' EM IN TOO CLOSE! CEASE FIRE. GODDALLMIGHTY CEASE FIRE! His hat has blown off and is 30 ft. behind him in the driveway All windows on the north side of the house are blown out and there is a slow rolling mushroom cloud about 2000 ft over our backyard. There is a Honda 185 three-wheeler parked on the other side of the yard and the fenders are drooped down and are now touching the tires. I wish I knew what I said to my dad at that moment. I don't know - I know I said something. I couldn't hear. I couldn't hear inside my own head. I don't think he heard me either...not that it would really matter. I don't remember much from this point on. I said something, felt a sharp pain, and then woke up later. I felt a sharp pain, blacked out, woke later repeat this process for an hour or so and you get the idea. I remember at one point my mom had to give me CPR so dad could beat me some more. Bring him back to life so dad can kill him again. Thanks Mom. One thing is for sure... I never had to mow around that stump again.. Mom had been griping about that thing for years and dad never did anything about it. I stepped up to the plate and handled business. Dad sold his muzzleloader a week or so later. And I still have some sort of bone growth abnormality either from the blast or from the beating. Or both.. I guess what I'm trying to say is, get your kids into archery. It is good discipline and will teach them skills they can use later on in life. Patrick Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not - Jefferson --
[Biofuel] Pakistan Daily -New Evidence that the Swine Flu Pandemic is man-made
http://www.daily. pk/7780/new- evidence- that-the- %e2%80%98swine- flu%e2%80% 99-p andemic-is-man- made/comment- page-1/#comment- 72 I added the following comment: Very little attention has been given to another lethal component included in MF-59, the oil-based adjuvant used in Novartis’ experimental vaccine, namely the glycoprotein GP120, which is also used in most experimental AIDS vaccines! According to Dr. Veljkovic’s assessment “the recombination hotspots in transgenic DNA may interact with the recombination signals flanking the V3 loop of the gp120 gene in AIDS vaccines to generate yet more exotic viruses”! The fact that the global population has been force-fed genetically modified food, containing antibiotic-resistan t marker genes and viral promoters such as the cauliflower mosaic virus (CaMV), which is closely related to the Hepatitis B and HIV virus and has a recombination “hotspot”, would effectively turn those receiving a vaccine containing a live virus and GP120 into “generators” of novel viral diseases never seen in mankind before. In addition, Novartis’ vaccines, such as OPTAFLU, for instance would also constitute a major scoop for the multi-billion dollar HIV/AIDS industry, as outlined in my article “Optaflu – look at the timeline” in 2007. http://www.healthy- humans.co. za/optaflu. html,since it may give false-positive results in serology tests using the ELISA method to detect antibodies against HIV-1, Hepatatis C and HTLV-1, which may be due to the IgM response to the vaccine. What a brilliant idea to inflate HIV statistics and push toxic antiretroviral drugs on healthy people, which no doubt happens on a daily basis in South Africa where 60 other diseases prevalent in Africa in addition to flu and pregnancy would also give a false-positive reading. http://www.emea. europa.eu/ humandocs/ PDFs/EPAR/ optaflu/H- 758-PI-en. pdf Please see Dr. Veljko Veljkovic’s assessment of gp120, which is also added to most experimental HIV vaccines and other vaccines injected into our kids: http://www.i- sis.org.uk/ isisnews/ i-sisnews11- 19.php The culprit viral gene The intended vaccines all contain gp120, a glycoprotein (protein decorated with side-chains of carbohydrates) belonging to the envelope of the human AIDS virus, HIV-1. The candidates include recombinant HIV proteins and peptides (subunit vaccines), HIV-1 or SIV (the monkey AIDS virus), killed or ‘attenuated’, ie, rendered harmless by successive passage in cultured cells, and a wide range of recombinant viral, bacterial and plasmid vectors expressing HIV proteins. (Plasmids are pieces of parasitic genetic material existing outside the cell’s genome, and are replicated by the cell independently of the cell’s genome.) HIV researchers Dr. Veljko Veljkovic and his colleagues in Belgrade Yugoslavia, have shown that the gp120, is similar to the part of human immunoglobulin (antibody) proteins (Ig) involved in binding foreign antigens, a crucial step in the immune response. Thus, any AIDS vaccine containing the gp120 glycoprotein or the gene coding for it could strongly interfere with the immune system and make the host more vulnerable to the virus. And in the longer term, it could accelerate disease progression in HIV patients that do not yet have symptoms. But the gp120 gene has other properties that pose an even greater threat to the vaccinated population. It contains ‘recombination hotspots’ similar to those in bacteria and viruses such as Haemophilus influenzae, Mycobacterium tuberculosis, hepatitis B virus and herpes simplex virus, that often co-infect with the HIV, and also similar to recombination elements found in immunoglobulin genes and oncogenes (genes associated with cancer) in the human host. Recombination hotspots are breakpoints at which genetic exchange or recombination occurs much more frequently than usual. Recombination of HIV with bacteria and viruses would generate new pathogens. Within the human host, recombination with human genes would promote chromosomal rearrangements and formation of abnormal immuno-globulins, thus undermining immune responses. HIV-1 sequences integrated into the genome can act as retrotransposons (jumping genes) that can mutate genes by jumping into them, and some of the mutations may trigger cancer [1]. Dr. Veljkovic’s team, in collaboration with researchers in UK, Italy and US, have already found evidence of recombination between gp120 and a gene from Haemophilus influenzae [2]. Recombination between an HIV gene and Mycoplasm fermentans has been implicated in ‘Gulf war syndrome’ [3] affecting a high proportion of soldiers from the United States and the United Kingdom who served in the Gulf war. A new subtype of HIV-1 may also have resulted from recombination between HIV-1 and SIV [4]. The proponents of the AIDS vaccination trials argue that the desperate situation precipitated by the AIDS epidemic justifies acceptance of the ‘small risks’ involved. But Veljkovic and his colleagues
[Biofuel] Things you're not supposed to know about Swine flu vaccine
Please share... Ten Things You're Not Supposed to Know about the Swine Flu Vaccineby Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor (NaturalNews) She was deathly afraid of the flu. So she asked her doc what she should do. He jabbed her unseen With a swine flu vaccine Blurting, Darling, I haven't a clue. - by the Health Ranger Let's not beat around the bush on this issue: The swine flu vaccines now being prepared for mass injection into infants, children, teens and adults have never been tested and won't be tested before the injections begin. In Europe, where flu vaccines are typically tested on hundreds (or thousands) of people before being unleashed on the masses, the European Medicines Agency is allowing companies to skip the testing process entirely. And yet, amazingly, people are lining up to take the vaccine, absent any safety testing whatsoever. When the National Institutes of Health in the U.S. announced a swine flu vaccine trial beginning in early August, it was inundated with phone calls and emails from people desperate to play the role of human guinea pigs. The power of fear to herd sheeple into vaccine injections is simply amazing... Back in Europe, of course, everybody gets to be a guinea pig since no testing will be done on the vaccine at all. Even worse, the European vaccines will be using adjuvants -- chemicals used to multiply the potency of the active ingredients in vaccines. Notably, there is absolutely no safety data on the use of adjuvants in infants and expectant mothers -- the two groups being most aggressively targeted by the swine flu vaccine pushers. The leads us to the disturbing conclusion that the swine flu vaccine could be a modern medical disaster. It's untested and un-tried. Its ingredients are potentially quite dangerous, and the adjuvants being used in the European vaccines are suspected of causing neurological disorders. Paralyzed by vaccinesI probably don't need to remind you that in 1976, a failed swine flu vaccine caused irreparable damage to the nervous systems of hundreds of people, paralyzing many. Medical doctors gave the problem a name, of course, to make it sound like they knew what they were talking about: Guillain-Barre syndrome. (Notably, they never called it Toxic Vaccine Syndrome because that would be too informative. ) But the fact remains that doctors never knew how the vaccines caused these severe problems, and if the same event played out today, all the doctors and vaccine pushers would undoubtedly deny any link between the vaccines and paralysis altogether. (That's what's happening today with the debate over vaccines and autism: Complete denial.) In fact, there are a whole lot of things you'll never be told by health authorities about the upcoming swine flu vaccine. For your amusement, I've written down the ten most obvious ones and published them below. Ten things you're not supposed to know about the swine flu vaccine(At least, not by anyone in authority... ) #1 - The vaccine production was rushed and the vaccine has never been tested on humans. Do you like to play guinea pig for Big Pharma? If so, line up for your swine flu vaccine this fall... #2 - Swine flu vaccines contain dangerous adjuvants that cause an inflammatory response in the body. This is why they are suspected of causing autism and other neurological disorders. #3 - The swine flu vaccine could actually increase your risk of death from swine flu by altering (or suppressing) your immune system response. There is zero evidence that even seasonal flu shots offer any meaningful protection for people who take the jabs. Vaccines are the snake oil of modern medicine. #4 - Doctors still don't know why the 1976 swine flu vaccines paralyzed so many people. And that means they really have no clue whether the upcoming vaccine might cause the same devastating side effects. (And they're not testing it, either...) #5 - Even if the swine flu vaccine kills you, the drug companies aren't responsible. The U.S. government has granted drug companies complete immunity against vaccine product liability. Thanks to that blanket immunity, drug companies have no incentive to make safe vaccines, because they only get paid based on quantity, not safety (zero liability). #6 - No swine flu vaccine works as well as vitamin D to protect you from influenza. That's an inconvenient scientific fact that the U.S. government, the FDA and Big Pharma hope the people never realize. #7 - Even if the swine flu vaccine actually works, mathematically speaking if everyone else around you gets the vaccine, you don't need one! (Because it can't spread through the population you hang with.) So even if you believe in the vaccine, all you need to do is encourage your friends to go get vaccinated.. .. #8 - Drug companies are making billions of dollars from the production of swine flu vaccines. That money comes out of your pocket -- even if you don't
[Biofuel] Interesting Read
I wonder where they are with this today Kirk “Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors… and miss.” — Robert Heinlein http://www.acq.osd.mil/dsb/reports/2004-09-Strategic_Communication.pdf -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090727/a40659f8/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Big Pharma - Mercury for the Masses
Corrupt politicians on the take should be prosecuted under Ricoh or as terrorists. To grant Pharma immunity is conspiracy. Kirk “Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors… and miss.” — Robert Heinlein http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/7395411/deadly_immunity -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090726/df1789d6/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] confessions of an economic hit man
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_globalbanking14.htm “Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors… and miss.” — Robert Heinlein -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090726/cf67d665/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] ot important info
If you are still brainwashed by the edible oil industry's incredibly effective media spin on soy, then please review the soy index page link below which has hundreds of pages describing the reason's you will not want to regularly consume non-fermented soy products. Soy protein powders and soy formula are the worst offenders and I don't believe that they should be consumed by anyone. -Mercola MD http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2001/10/27/soy-kidney-stones.aspx -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090725/8f9197ab/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Fw: Scientific Research Ignored By The Medical Industry
I think the sentence below is key: Dr. Rath’s research further revealed that once the body stores 1.1 pounds of these aminos per 150 pounds body weight, NO DISEASE will spread through the body. That means it can stop the spread of virus. This protocol was used for HIV research and it proved just that. It stopped the spread of HIV as well as any other viruses, in fact all viruses. BtW when you go to google books just enter vaccines as search. There are oodles of books that display all the text as they are older. In this case they are the ones you want as there was extensive debate in England re Jenner. Lots of great statistics and observations. Kirk Scientific Research Ignored By The Medical Industry Still Remains Undisputed Filed Under Cancer, Natural Healing, Natural Solutions, Nutrition, Organic, Sea Salts By Emjae Johnson Research that is “undisputed” is evidence that is accepted as truth. Have you ever wondered why undisputed scientific research that was excellent enough to be awarded the NOBEL Prize has never been used, even ignored by the medical industry? Cause of Cancer Discovered Over 70 Years Ago Cancer is now the number one killer among all diseases in the U.S. Experts tell us that 1 in 3 will get some form of cancer. The medical industry has little to offer the cancer patient in the way of effective treatments, in fact, they have been offering the same three treatments for more than 40 years, chemotherapy, radiation and surgical removal. Even so, rarely will you hear a doctor reveal to their patients the truth about cancer treatment survival rates. They most likely will not do so because they are so very low. The National Cancer Institute has stated that the survival rate for Chemotherapy is less than 5.9% and Radiation treatments less than 12.8%. These are startling statistics but yet, generally, no other treatments are offered to the Cancer patient. I cannot speak for anyone else but when I went to school less that 13% was considered a failing grade! It is a fact that over 75 years ago, Dr. Otto Warburg discovered the cause of Cancer was due to a lack of oxygen at the cellular level causing a low pH (acidity) at the cellular level and was awarded the NOBEL prize TWICE for his research. It seems logical that if this research is true, that our pH, or oxygen level, should be tested on a regular basis by our medical professionals. If keeping a high oxygen level in our bodies will help keep cancer from forming in our bodies why are we not being educated by the medical industry to do so? It would truly only be a matter of some dietary changes and lifestyle recommendations. It is hard to say what the benefit is to not informing the public of this research. Additionally, two more scientific minds, Dr. Keith Brewer and H.E. Sartori, built upon the research of Dr. Otto Warburg and found that raising a cell’s oxygen or pH to 8.0 creates an environment that a cancer cell cannot survive in. In other words, a cancer cell thrives in an arena of low oxygen, sort of like the carp that live in polluted ponds. Once the cell’s oxygen is raised the cancer cell does not feel at home anymore to the point that it dies. It seems that the answer to surviving cancer is to raise your body’s pH, or oxygen level. [It should be stated here that H.E. Sartori was imprisoned for twenty-five years for claiming he had a cure for cancer. He now resides overseas and continues his research on cancer.] Mineral Ascorbates: Effect on Heart Disease and Diabetes Dr. Linus Pauling, another NOBEL Prize winner, discovered that the human body needs ascorbates and no longer produces its own (nutrients which cost only pennies a day to use.) These ascorbates are essential for healing and restoring our connective tissue, that would be the glue that holds us together. Without ascorbates you could say we are pretty much all falling apart. Further, Dr. Linus Pauling with the help of Dr. Mathias Rath discovered that only 3 grams a day of mineral ascorbates were sufficient to prevent heart disease, the #2 killer. Ascorbates have been shown to help diabetes. At the famous Stanford University Med School in California, diabetic Dr. Dice found that by taking ascorbates on a regular basis he could reduce his requirement for insulin by 2.5 units for each additional gram of ascorbate he took . By the 23rd day of this regimen he was taking 11 grams of ascorbates daily and his insulin requirement had dropped from 32 units to only 5 units per day. Spread of All Viruses Arteriosclerotic Build-up Halted with Addition of Two Amino Acids Doctors Rath and Pauling also expanded on the work of other Nobelists, Brown and Goldstein for yet another solution - that two amino acids, L-Lysine and L-Proline taken with mineral ascorbates prevents the arteriosclerotic build-up and even reverse it. There is nothing else know to man that will do this. Dr. Rath’s research further revealed that once