Re: [biofuel] Releasing of energy in a nuclear reaction is due to the volume ...
~200 MEV is released per fission of U235. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Home Selling? Try Us! http://us.click.yahoo.com/QrPZMC/iTmEAA/jd3IAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Greenpeace - was Re: [biofuel] Re: An example of what we're up against.
You all are so easily mislead. Of course many of the people who support Greenpeace are not terrorists. However, they unwittingly support terrorism. In the case of Mandela he was a terrorist of the worst kind a person who set off bombs killing people. It never ceases to amaze me how easy it to revise history and have people like yourselves by into it. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Sell a Home with Ease! http://us.click.yahoo.com/SrPZMC/kTmEAA/jd3IAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Big Oil's MTBE Cover-Up
In 1979, a friend of mine with a major oil company told me that MTBE was a mistake. The origin of MTBE was demanded by the government employees people in California and Washington, DC. Look into the history of MTBE and you will find it was promoted by environmentalists and a particular company that were both providing money to politicians and votes. Richard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Home Selling? Try Us! http://us.click.yahoo.com/QrPZMC/iTmEAA/jd3IAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Greenpeace - was Re: [biofuel] Re: An example of what we're up against.
Keith. Do not have to concern yourself with my responding to your misleading statements. Spread lies all you want. You get what you deserve. A government full of way to many tax payer supported leaches taking from you and your family. Like I said the revision of history is so simple and you believe it and spread those untruths. Silly parities do not let you escape. Richard McPherson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Plan to Sell a Home? http://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/jd3IAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: An example of what we're up against.
In a message dated 10/16/2002 10:20:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hakan: Do you admire Greenpeace for staging the killing of the baby seals? Do you admire Greenpeace for giving fundraisers up to 40% of the funds they collect tax free and promoting a lifestyle where people do not work or pay taxes and you and I have to support them to the detriment of our own families? Do you admire Greenpeace blowing up things and sinking vessels? Do you admire Greenpeace for being a terrorist organization? Richard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Plan to Sell a Home? http://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/jd3IAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: An example of what we're up against.
In a message dated 10/16/2002 5:13:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have physically seen the ship in NZ soon after the event and the police records, who clearly identifies the terrorists as government agents. That was the French, please do not try and confuse people. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Home Selling? Try Us! http://us.click.yahoo.com/QrPZMC/iTmEAA/jd3IAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] The BBC has been fooled...
In a message dated 10/03/2002 10:38:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: US threatens world peace, says Mandela Gentlemen: Look at the source, a convicted bomber and Marxist himself. Also a close friend of Bill Clintons. Richard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Plan to Sell a Home? http://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/MVfIAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Who defines it?? Was: Saddam unpopular?
Kris: Some good advice. Anyone who lets themselves be mislead by the media wastes their lives. It takes digging, reading, talking and years of involvement to see the truth though the haze. Richard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Home Selling? Try Us! http://us.click.yahoo.com/QrPZMC/iTmEAA/MVfIAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] The BBC has been fooled...
Keith: After working in over 30 countries, I find it does no good to even read what most people rant about what they think is going on in the world. Richard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Home Selling? Try Us! http://us.click.yahoo.com/QrPZMC/iTmEAA/MVfIAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] The BBC has been fooled by a CIA set up...NOT
Kirk: I started as a nuclear engineer on US Navy Submarines in 1963. I have been involved in the nuclear business every since. Along the way I represented the US on a six nation board that grew out of the Chernobyl accident. Don't be swayed by people writing about the quality, quantity or enrichment of any fissionable material that gets picked up on the black market. It's all usable in making weapons. The seizure in Turkey was just an indicator of how much is moving around. When you have as much oil money as Iraq does and its kept from the people of Iraq to be used by one person in his quest for weapons of mass destruction there are people around the world that will sell him what he wants. The have for over 10 years and will continue. Richard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- 4 DVDs Free +sp Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/MVfIAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] upcoming biodiesel events in Santa Rosa CA
NATIONAL BIODIESEL BOARD 3337A Emerald Ln. P O Box 104898 Jefferson City, MO 65110-4898 (573) 635-3893 phone (800) 841-5849 (573) 635-7913 fax www.biodiesel.org NEWS FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contacts: Ted Brown/T.W. Brown Oil (805) 339-2355 Jenna Higgins/National Biodiesel Board (573) 694-5214 Kathy Kane/Gold Mountain Entertainment (323)-850-5660 September 23, 2002 Bonnie Raitt Fuels Up with Cleaner Burning Biodiesel in LA Green Highway tour puts American fuels in the spotlight LOS ANGELES - Musician Bonnie Raitt is doing more for America than entertaining her fans on her nationwide tour currently underway - she's protecting the environment by using an alternative fuel called biodiesel. She is the first U.S. entertainer to adopt cleaner burning American-made biodiesel for use on tour. Raitt's crew filled up with BioLowNox-202 Premium biodiesel donated by West Central Soy (www.westcentralsoy.com) and T.W. Brown Oil Company today before her second performance at the Greek Theater. T.W. Brown Oil Company is the local fuel distributor carrying BioLowNox-202 Premium biodiesel and has a public pump selling BioLowNox-202 Premium biodiesel at 1457 Fleet Ave. in Ventura. Dubbed the Green Highway Tour, the Grammy-winning artist with hits such as Something to Talk About is traveling coast-to-coast performing at major venues while raising awareness about alternative fuels. It's no accident that we're in danger of losing both our ecological and our economic well-being at the same time, explains Raitt, who created the Green Highway concept along with colleagues Kathy Kane and Harvey Wasserman. I feel too many government and corporate policies are inseparably shortsighted and we've created Green Highway to demonstrate that working in harmony with nature can offer real solutions for preserving both our planet and our prosperity. BioLowNox-202 Premium biodiesel fits with Raitt's Green Highway Tour because it reduces emissions that are harmful to the environment as well as humans. BoiLowNox-202 Premium biodiesel is a domestically produced fuel made from only the highest-grade soybean oil and BLN-202. BLN-202 reduces nitrous oxides (the main contributor to smog) and increases miles per gallon making BioLowNox-202 more economical than other fuels. BLN-202 is supplied by Combustion Technologies (West) LLC that can be contacted at www.DipetaneUSA.com, or 800-993-6370. Biodiesel can be used in any diesel engine with few or no modifications. Although biodiesel contains no petroleum, it can be blended with diesel at any level or used in its pure form. The Raitt tour is powered by a combination of biodiesel, solar energy, and w ind and hybrid technology. The tour sets up exhibits on alternative energy at each venue and hands out information to concert goers. Companies donating biodiesel to Raitt include West Central Soy, Biodiesel Industries, Griffin Industries, Stepan Company and World Energy, all members of the National Biodiesel Board (NBB), which is coordinating the tour's use of the fuel. I think it's wonderful that Bonnie Raitt is leading by example in using a farm-grown fuel that decreases emissions and dependence on foreign oil, said Bob Metz, president of the National Biodiesel Board (NBB) and a South Dakota soybean farmer. Biodiesel is beginning to enjoy commercial success as one of the fastest growing alternative fuels available, and hopefully Bonnie's use of it will raise the visibility of the fuel and encourage others to use it. Biodiesel is available nationwide. More than 200 U.S. fleets currently use the fuel commercially, and it is also becoming increasingly available at public pumps and marinas. Biodiesel performs comparably to diesel fuel, with similar cetane and BTU content. It is the only alternative fuel to have completed the rigorous Health Effects testing requirements of the Clean Air Act. The results, submitted to the Environmental Protection Agency in 2000, show biodiesel is biodegradable, virtually non-toxic and free of sulfur. Emissions it reduces include particulate matter, unburned hydrocarbons, carbon monoxide and sulfates. B100 also reduces lifecycle carbon dioxide by 78% compared to petroleum diesel according to Department of Energy research. Readers can learn more about Bonnie Raitt's Green Highway Tour by visiting www.greenhighway.net. To learn more about biodiesel, visit the NBB Web site at www.biodiesel.org. The National Biodiesel Board is funded in part by the United Soybean Board and state soybean board check off programs. # # # [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Sell a Home with Ease! http://us.click.yahoo.com/SrPZMC/kTmEAA/MVfIAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html
Re: [biofuel] Trucks for sale
What year and how much? Richard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- 4 DVDs Free +sp Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/mG3HAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] diesel vans?
Gray: I have a Ford E350 Diesel Van Richard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- 4 DVDs Free +sp Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/mG3HAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] SUV's on biofuel , just a plug
Erik: Where do you live? Richard McPherson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- 4 DVDs Free +sp Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/RN.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] home heating fuel
We have tested 100% soy in a boiler...it works. Richard, Combustion Technologies [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Will You Find True Love? Will You Meet the One? Free Love Reading by phone! http://us.click.yahoo.com/7dY7FD/R_ZEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Car Makers to Challenge State's New Emissions Law
In a message dated 07/28/2002 7:06:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christopher Witmer Tokyo In Europe diesels are increasing in sale over petrol cars. Today, Japan can significantly reduce its emissions from diesel and petrol engines by blending in Dipetane before the pumps. See below. Dipetane information was first sent to the Mayors office in Tokyo in 1999. There has been no response. In the meantime, Souht Korea and now China are importing Dipetane. Richard DIPETANE DIPETANE is a 100% hydrocarbon liquid fuel treatment soluble with diesel fuels, fuel oils or gasoline blended in a ratio of 1:200 (0.05% DIPETANE by volume) to significantly reduce exhaust emissions, while achieving an 8-17% increase in mileage. PHYSICAL PROPERTIES* Boiling Point: Above 340C (ASTM D86) Flashpoint: 205C (ASTM D93) Viscosity: @ 40C 19.27 cSt (ASTM D445) Density:@ 15C 0.8591 (ASTM D4052 CHEMICAL PROPERTIES* Copper Corrosion Classification: 1a - no potential to corrode metallic components (ASTM D130) Ash Content: 0.001% wt (ASTM D482) Calorific Value Gross: 45.37 MJ/Kg ELEMENTAL ANALYSIS* Carbon: 85.1% Hydrogen: 14.0% Oxygen: 0.05% Chlorine: 0.1% Nitrogen: 25 PPM (ASTM D5762) *Physical Properties, Chemical Properties and Elemental Analysis verified by Intertek Testing Services (Australia) Pty Ltd., an Australian accredited testing laboratory. *Nationally Certified Laboratories have Analyzed and Reported on Green House Gas Emission Reductions using DIPETANE CLEANBURN Fuels The first chart below summarizes reductions in exhaust gas emissions using DIPETANE treated diesel fuel in two heavy-duty Mercedes Benz (Class 8) trucks. The second chart summarizes the results from treating gasoline (without MTBE or Ethanol) in a Mercedes Benz 600 with a V12 engine. MAXIMUM REDUCTIONS ACHIEVED WITH DIPETANE TREATED DIESEL FUEL CO2 23.0% SO2:26.8% CO 9.5% Smoke (PM) 61.5% NOx 35.4% *Source: Gas Technology Services Report Number 0/106-6/M dated December 20, 2000 (Australian ISO 9001 Certified Laboratory) REDUCTIONS ACHIEVED WITH DIPETANE TREATED GASOLINE Emissions Pre-TestPost-Treated% Reduction CO 3.33% 0.39% 88% HC 755 PPM 247 PPM 68% *Source: Irish National Car Testing Center (NCT) May 29, 2001. For more than 14 years companies have had laboratories test their results with Dipetane Cleanburn fuels. Please Note: DIPETANE treated Cleanburn Fuels meets or exceeds all California Air Resources Board (CARB), United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and engine manufacturer requirements for vessels, vehicles, and locomotives. No one has to wait years to realize the benefit of reduced fuel costs and reducing green house gas emissions, they are available today with DIPETANE. Visit our web site www.Dipetane.com or call us at 1-800-993-6370, or Richard McPherson directly at1-949-363-5648 or Cell phone 1-949-290-3519. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/NsdPZD/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Dependence on foreign oil - REPLY
In a message dated 07/28/2002 7:47:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Todd: You can go on forever with the same old rhetoric that I have heard for 30 plus years by people living in a dream world. People with your attitude is what has helped the liberal socialists and Democrats make us so dependent on imported oil. Look in the mirror, you can start by blaming yourself. What makes President Bush's energy policy so responsible is that it is one. A start. Something no other President has ever done. For us that are serious about energy, we deal in reality not fantasy. Richard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Will You Find True Love? Will You Meet the One? Free Love Reading by phone! http://us.click.yahoo.com/7dY7FD/R_ZEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Dependence on foreign oil - REPLY
In a message dated 07/27/2002 12:04:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Todd: I like your statement: The only president in US history that has been willing to shit or get off the pot relative to energy policy and national security was Jimmy Carter. Anyone remember the moral equivalent of war? However its not entirely accurate in that President Bush is the first one to submit a written energy policy to the Congress. Jimmy Carter did not. However, since you appear to be a student of energy (as I am since 1958) here might be some interesting facts for you. In 1978, Jimmy Carter pleaded with Congress for a responsible energy policy saying it is costing the American people $250 million a day for imported foreign oil. Four presidents later in early 2001, George Bush put forth the first responsible energy proposal for the Congress to consider. A year later and now with America involved in a world war on terrorism the Congress has failed to pass a responsible energy plan. In 1978, when Jimmy Carter pleaded with the Congress to come up with a responsible energy policy, the national debt was less than $1.0 trillion. Today it is over $6.0 trillion. In 1978, America was importing about 36% of the oil we consumed. Today we import over 52% of the oil America consumes. In 2000, America produced only 5.8 million barrels of the almost 20 million barrels consumed each day. In 2000, America consumed 27% of the worlds daily consumption of oil, yet only has 5% of the world's population. In 2000, the transportation industry used 150% of American oil production. In 2000, transportation accounted for 68% of America's oil consumption. 94% of everything we eat, wear or use gets to us by diesel fuel. Since the 1990, Gulf War estimates have ranged from $6 to $60 billion a year for the United States Armed Forces to defend oil flowing from the Middle East. The best guess is $32 billion annually of the DoD budget. This adds over $4.00 to each barrel of imported oil. Since 9/11 - add to the cost of the DoD another $1 billion monthly. Now adding over $6.00 per barrel of imported oil. The American people do not see this at the pumpit is hidden in taxes and other fees (taxes) they pay. Since the 1973 Arab Oil Embargo foreign oil has cost the American economy about $7 trillion. Today the national debt is a little over $6 trillion; all of it due to our imports of foreign oil because elected representatives failed their fiduciary duty to work for the American people. If America is to survive as we have known and our forefathers fought for it, we must all help get a responsible energy policy in place (now) for the security of our children and grandchildren to live free as we have done. To do nothing will insure that those wishing to kill off the American Spirit of Freedom will surely win. Consider this: What will America's domestic oil production be in 30 years? Far less than today! Unless we take action to reduce our need for foreign oil, our debt will be at least another $7 trillion. Foreign interests hold over 23% of our national debt. Who controls America's future? In 1870, America was exporting two-thirds of its oil production. Only 100 year later in 1970, America was only producing 21% of the total world production, while consuming over two-thirds of the world's oil production - a complete reversal. Two World Wars took its toll on American oil resources. Congress has avoided difficult energy security decisions for more than 40 years. The Congress that ignored Jimmy Carters plea was controlled by Democrats. The Senate that has derailed much of President Bush' s proposed energy policy (once) again controlled by the Democrats. Take a closer look at the Democratic party since the 1960 platform and you will quickly see the problem and how we created a national debt since Carter of over $6.0 trillion by spending over $7.0 trillion on foreign imported oil. The choice for our future is easy: Either do nothing and America will cease to exist as we know it in this century. Or, appropriately exploit all sources of energy for the many and varied uses in the United States. In 1999, I helped bring a technology to the United States that (TODAY) will greatly reduce our dependence on oil (5-17%), while reducing emissions, while we explore all other possible energy technologies. Look it up at www.Dipetane.com. Richard McPherson Managing Director Combustion Technologies LLC 25121 Via Portola Laguna Niguel, CA 92677 USA 1-949-290-3519 C [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Will You Find True Love? Will You Meet the One? Free Love Reading by
Re: [biofuel] Oil/wind/other RE
In a message dated 07/27/2002 1:38:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One project in Nevada, not far from Yucca I think, which I think was in excess of 100 megawatts, was shot down by the Air Force and-or some Energy Department because it would have interfered with radar for their training. I wonder if it had to do with creating a terrorist target (Yucca) and then having to protect it. Ed: If you thought about what windmills do to certain types of radar it might keep you from making silly comments. Richard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Will You Find True Love? Will You Meet the One? Free Love Reading by phone! http://us.click.yahoo.com/7dY7FD/R_ZEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Small Stainless Steel Tanks - Excess Inventory
where are they? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Will You Find True Love? Will You Meet the One? Free Love Reading by phone! http://us.click.yahoo.com/O3jeVD/R_ZEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] home heating oil
Mani: One thing we have in the USA is rules imposed by the government in the 1980s for more energy efficient homes. This has caused homes to be closed up with little of no air circulating through them. The result is rot and mildew that is causing respiratory problems that show up first in children and older folks. Richard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/TPvn8A/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: home heating oil
In a message dated 07/09/2002 10:43:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is Dipetane? Mark: See our web sites at www.DipetaneUSA.com and www.Dipetane.com Richard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/TPvn8A/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] home heating oil
In a message dated 07/09/2002 11:59:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm no architect, but it would seem to me to be possible to comply with the government rules and still maintain adequate circulation. If that is the case, then the rotting and mildewing houses would have to be the fault of builders' poor design decisions, rather than the fault of the government regulations per se . . . Chris Witmer Tokyo Chris: The regulations detailed what must be done to make a house more efficient. Included was vapor barriers...the houses cannot breathe like they once could hence mold and respiratory problems. You have too much faith in government regulations being correct. Richard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/TPvn8A/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] home heating oil
Mark: If you want to get biodiesel for them, we can help. You should also consider putting in Dipetane to make it pour a little better, reduce the consumption and reduce NOx. Richard McPherson Combustion Technologies LLC www.DipetaneUSA .com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/TPvn8A/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Biodiesel as a business
We hare involved with several people who are making biodiesel as a part of their fuel and energy business. Richard McPherson Laguna Niguel, CA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Pp91HA/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] ignition retarding
In a message dated 06/06/2002 7:49:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 06:27:31PM +1000, Neil and Adele Craven wrote: Now for my Question. What is the issue if the ignition is not retarded 2-3 deg? As I live in Australia and cover many outback Klms where fuel production would not be possible (Thankfully I have 265ltrs on board capacity) I would need to keep the car suitable to run on dinodiesel. Neil Adele: Where do you live in the outback? Richard McPherson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] diesel engines
Hi Dennis: What do you think of products such as Dipetane? Richard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/orkH0C/n97DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Air Freight Fuel Consumption was Re: [biofuel] car racing-grand prix etc
I know an F-14 in Zone 5 Afterburner uses a ton of fuel a minute. It's fun going straight up at 20,000 feet per minute. Richard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4. No Minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/BgmYkB/VovDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Particulates
In a message dated 03/01/2002 2:24:09 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was at a meeting last night where one delegate claimed that small particulates 2.5 m or smaller pass through glass. ie. If you live by a main road, closing your windows does not keep the stuff out of your house. I find that hard to believe. Any opinions? Are you talking about 2.5 micons? If you are they do not pass through solid glass. Richard McPherson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4. No Minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/BgmYkB/VovDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] EPA hassel -new agenda
Glenn: That was good advice. Having dealt with the government since 1962, both inside and out, and even spending a short time having been a Congressional Aide, I know they respond best to well written letters, followed up by a telephone call asking about the letter. E-mails almost get no response. They have a chart that they all know cold. A chart that tells them what type of communication means what kind of vote. I disagree with you on one part about why government employees like to deal with big companies and associations. It is only about their having more money to contribute for incumbents reelections. Richard McPherson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: EPA= the MOB?
While many of us know certain employees of the EPA and some employees in other agencies and departments operate as criminals the Mob under the color of authority, it does no good to just complain, or do anything foolish that might play into their hands. You have to continuously inform the media and your elected representatives. A sincere and factual letter a week (from few thousand people) requesting action will start getting peoples attention. But be patient, we have let them organize themselves over the past 30 plus years; change will not be sudden. If you are part of the crowd living for instant gratification, change your ways and positive changes for the better can be made. Richard McPherson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel]Re:EPA-I hate keeping my opinions to myself.
Arne: To tell you how bad the IRS is...they sent me a bill that was not mine for something just over $293,000. Do you think they have ever said their sorry or better yet sent me a letter to give to the financial community so they would know that I did not really have tax bill? The answer after 14 years...No! And, I was a person who always tried very to play by the rules. Why? I was a Navy nuclear submarine officer who could not afford to run afoul of any government agency or department, nor have any financial issues that might affect my security clearances. I hope my book about my experience sells real well. Richard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: EPA?/consider the alternative
You guys...dialogue is good. Keep it positive and as factual as you know it to be, so that you will not lose readers. There is too much good information being exchanged on this site to harm its utility. Richard McPherson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: oilseed content - was Re: [biofuel] rapeseed seeds
In a message dated 02/15/2002 12:53:56 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 200 feet x 200 feet area in an acre 43,559.63 square feet or 208.7' X 208.7' to be a little more precise. Richard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: EPA?/consider the alternative
In a message dated 02/15/2002 2:22:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If I were to file a complaint against the station down the street, would they have to shut down until they could prove they were selling clean fuel? NO Or would I have to provide some evidence before the business would be closed? YES If my allegation turned out to be false, wouldn't I be liable for the loss of business income? YES Motie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Why have an EPA?
Motie: The EPA has done some good. Now like to many government initiatives it has gone astray and an unnecessary burden on America. Consider the following quotes from a CATO Institute study: ...The EPA's cancer assessment is not concerned with such concrete events. Rather, it is concerned with hypothetical cases of disease that may or may not be associated with environmental exposures to chemicals. It also differs fundamentally from public health in that the costs of regulatory intervention to control the hypothetical risks are far, far higher than the costs of controlling other sources of disease. Tammy O. Tengs and her colleagues at the Harvard Center for Risk Analysis examined the costs of 500 life-saving interventions, which were defined as any behavioral and/or technological strategy that reduces the probability of premature death among a specified target population. [27] They calculated that the median cost of an intervention for each life-year saved was $42,000, with an enormous range: the median cost of a medical intervention to save a life-year was $19,000; the median cost of injury reduction was $48,000; the median cost for toxin (chemical) control was $2,800,000, fully 83 times higher than the average of the medical and injury interventions. Most of the examined toxin control measures were directed at carcinogens. Not surprisingly, given the EPA's focus on toxin control, its regulatory programs are the most expensive of studied federal regulatory agencies: the EPA forces the expenditure of an average of $7,600,000 per life-year saved as compared to the Federal Aviation Administration's average regulatory cost of $23,000 per life-year. [28] Despite the weakness of the argument that EPA regulations protect public health, the agency uses it to justify its regulations, and the EPA can be expected to use that justification to trump any attempt to force significant change in its risk guidelines. The EPA has adopted a series of science policy assumptions to guide its interpretations of its risk assessments. Those assumptions include flat statements that (1) animal test results predict human risk and (2) toxic effects seen only at high dose levels in animals are predictive of human risks at far lower exposure levels. Those assumptions shift the burden of proof away from the EPA. The agency does not have to demonstrate that humans are at risk or that its evidence indicates human risk at low exposures. Instead, anyone who opposes its interpretations has to demonstrate that the EPA errs. That might be a tolerable burden, but the EPA, as shown in the draft guidelines, decides what opposing information it will consider. Even if the EPA were open to serious consideration of opposing information, no one has ever determined how many observations and facts are necessary to displace an assumption. We expect that the new guidelines, if adopted as drafted, will make little difference. The alternative is to initiate a serious analysis of the contradictions between the EPA's assumptions and available knowledge and information. Without that analysis and revision of the draft guidelines, little will change, and fundamental questions about whether the low risk from environmental exposures justifies any guidelines or regulations at all will be left unaddressed. The 1996 Cancer Guidelines According to EPA officials, the new draft guidelines differ from earlier ones in that they are less prescriptive and encourage the development and application of new tests for carcinogenicity and new approaches for analysis of test results. [29] That sounds good, but the devil is in the details, and the proposed guidelines reserve so much discretion to the EPA that we expect little difference in risk assessments based on animal tests. On the other hand, without a word of explanation, the EPA proposes a major change in its evaluation of epidemiologic studies. Tests for statistical significance have always been used to guard against the possibility that an apparent association between an exposure and a disease occurred by chance. The proposed guidelines drop any requirement for demonstrating that associations between exposures and human cancer are statistically significant. Unfortunately, the EPA (and some other government department and agencies) have become home to those who work against the environment, to keep America addicted to foreign oil. Before Jimmy Carter took office the National debt was less that $1 Trillion. In 1978, Carter pleaded with the US Congress to come up with an energy plan saying it is costing Americans $250 million a day for imported oil. Today the national debt is about $6 Trillion. Since 1973, America has spent about $7 trillion on foreign oil. 100% of our national debt is attributable to our importing of foreign oil. Richard McPherson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [biofuel] Re: Environmental group releases list of 'green cars'
I will send you some. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] EPA hassle
In a message dated 02/11/2002 8:04:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I like your idea that we have government employees paid by us to harass us. Sadly, It's not my idea they have come up with it all by themselves...only because we do not demand accountability from those we elect and do not write letters putting those people on report by exposing their tactics when they harass and intimidate people. We bitch and complain locally but fail to write letters. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: More on EPA hassle
In a message dated 02/11/2002 9:02:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: VeggiePup your good [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] EPA hassle
In a message dated 02/11/2002 10:54:09 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But don't paint it with too broad a brush - very many of them are fine people who take their responsibilities seriously. That is the sad part. There are many who do a good job and mean well but are many times corrupted by the system. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] EPA hassle
Arne: The EPA and IRS monitor this type of sites to figure out who to go after. You should call and write your Congressman and Senator and demand that they look into the EPA's actions and report back to you. Richard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] EPA hassle
In a message dated 02/11/2002 8:15:32 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom Leue of Homestead Inc. who has just had his biodiesel production line shut down by Big Government for the benefit of Big Oil. My Does anyone have a e-mail address or telephone number for Tom Leue? Richard McPherson 1-949-363-5649 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] EPA hassle
John: I just talked with him thanks. Richard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] California school buses hit for smog - Old diesels put state in...
Keith: Take a look at the following article by Chuck Lapin. I have known that natural gas and MTBE were bad since about 1980. Do we get heard? No! Only the extreme environmentalists and their partners in the government. Richard TOXICOLOGIST 'APPALLED' AT IGNORING CNG RISK. Diesel Fuel News, April 16, 2001 By: Jack Peckham One of California's top industry toxicologists who has been involved in the diesel toxic emissions issues for more than a decade says he's appalled by a recent green-group study that selectively attacks diesel emissions for supposed school bus cancer threats. Charles Lapin, former Arco Senior Toxicologist, now a private consultant to various clean-diesel technology promoters including International Truck Engine, points out that the NRDC/CCA study (see Diesel Fuel News 2/19/2001, p7) used only one of the four test buses for health-risk calculations, instead of averaging the emissions. The worst-case 1986 bus used for the calculation showed signs of disrepair and should not have been used to calculate risks, Lapin said. What's more, the risk estimates used methodologies not recognized by U.S. E.P.A. This is a political rehash of earlier NRDC dump-diesel statements, Lapin told Diesel Fuel News. As a toxicologist, the part I find troubling is not just the health effects calculation per se. The main thing that concerns me is that when you present data, then you don't call something a 'significant risk' unless it's statistically significant. Even using the study's PM exposure calculation for this obsolete-technology, possibly defective school bus -- two hours/day, 180/days/year, for 10 years --that adds up to less than 0.6% of a child's assumed 70-year, 600,000 hour lifetime, Lapin points out. That's really just a background risk for cancer, he said, rather than a statistically significant risk. Even if there's a tiny but potential risk, then the 'greens' are very selective in employing the 'precautionary principle' often used by environmental advocates, regulatory agencies and many industries, he said. Revoking Principals It's been revoked in their minds for CNG, (Compressed Natural Gas) Lapin said. University of California at Riverside published data two years ago analyzing CNG vehicle exhaust and found it contains PAH's (Poly Aromatic Hydrocarbons). CNG PM has carcinogens. That's a scary thing, because for a given weight of a particle -- one microgram of diesel PM and one microgram of CNG PM -- CNG has a higher percentage of PAH on a weight basis than diesel PM. So if we're comparing the two vehicles on an emissions weight basis, the CNG vehicle will have more carcinogens attached to PM than the diesel vehicle. The data has been there for two years and its being ignored. While some scientists suspect that lube oil PM could be a key source of PAH in CNG exhaust, other PAH's are formed by condensation of lighter CNG combustion products, so maybe it's not [just] lubes, Lapin said. By contrast, a lot of the diesel soot PM is inert elemental carbon. The typically smaller size of CNG PM also ought to bother the greens, because the finer the [emissions] mist, the greater the surface area [of PM] and the greater the chance for a carcinogen to travel into the cell, he said. People in the business of promoting and protecting public health should investigate that first before tilting toward one technology, he said. I'm just appalled by the CNG tilt, and I'm not the only one. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Reply for assault vehicles and fuel alcohol questions
You guys are starting to sound like Hillary Clinton. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Cheney Energy Secrets Subject of Lawsuits
In a message dated 01/29/2002 1:37:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But for the first time in history the GAO (General Accounting Office) will soon file suit for this same information. In deference to the President they are reportedly waiting till after his state of the union address tonight to do so. The head of th GA is a Clinton-Gore appointee [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] biodiesel taxes in spain
In a message dated 01/28/2002 3:48:43 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: some days ago i have received an answer to a question i made to the ministerio de economia from the spanish goverment about the taxes concerning biodiesel. there are 3 pages of text, i have it on spanish and is a little difficult to traslate, if there is someone interested i could mail it, if someone is very very very very interested i could try to translate it cheers Manolo Roln Valencia, Spain If you send it to me I will get it translated. Or, at least the portion describing the taxes on biodiesel. Richard McPherson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] biodiesel taxes in spain
In a message dated 01/28/2002 11:43:47 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you send it to me I will get it translated. Or, at least the portion describing the taxes on biodiesel. Richard McPherson Hello Richard Are you in Spain? James / Estepona No Southern California where the national language is Spanish. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] methanol reclaimation
In a message dated 01/28/2002 10:18:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In particular, Ocean Air does a million gallons a month Do you have a web site or contact at Ocean Air? Richard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Hydrogen Fuel vs Dino Diesel
In a message dated 01/21/2002 7:20:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: . I am just wondering why our government and a lot of big companies are spending so much money to try to develop an energy source that appears to be so unworkable when compared to Biodiesel Is a reality that could fuel about 4-12% of our vehicles depending on whose numbers you believe. Richard or ethanol. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Hydrogen Fuel vs Dino Diesel
Depending on the fuel cell (over 600 designs) there is a very wide range in efficiencies. Richard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] BD slightly murky at low temps (35 F)
In a message dated 01/17/2002 2:04:27 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: excuse my ignorance but what is Dipetane and where can one get it? regards, roger Roger: It is available from Bob Pond at Combustion Technologies 1-800-993-6370. You add it at the ratio of 1:200 or 1/2 percent by volume. I have attached a couple of pages in a Rich Text Format (RTF) file that you might find interesting. Very truly yours, Richard McPherson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Access Your PC from Anywhere Check Email Transfer files - Free Download http://us.click.yahoo.com/_WCYWA/3XkDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Re Dipetane - was Re: [biofuel] BD slightly murky at low temps (35 F)
In a message dated 01/17/2002 10:44:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry Richard, no attachments allowed on this list. Suggest send the info by email, if it can do without graphics (no html either). Keith just trying to be helpful. I have been in the energy conversions business since 1962. Are you in Tokyo? I have spent a significant amount of time in Tokyo. Richard Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! http://us.click.yahoo.com/WoOlbB/7.PDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] BD slightly murky at low temps (35 F)
You can add Dipetane at a ratio of 1:200 and it should help most biofuels. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! http://us.click.yahoo.com/WoOlbB/7.PDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Average BTU consumed Per Passenger mile by mode of travel
Check out www.DipetaneUSA.com or www.Dipetane.com. Richard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! http://us.click.yahoo.com/WoOlbB/7.PDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
