Re: [Biofuel] A textbook definition of cowardice

2006-09-27 Thread Doug Younker
Keith Olbermann seems to be the only media person in the USA willing 
to take on the Republican cabal, as it currently exists in the USA, and 
make is point, with a calm demeanor.  Too bad his calm statements based 
on  fact aren't widely seen or read.  Not that I think that would make a 
big difference, as so many of my fellow citizens have taken the 3 monkey 
posture of, see no evil hear no evil, say no evil.
Doug, N0LKK
Kansas USA inc.


D. Mindock wrote:
 I saw the interview where Fox News tried to sandbag Clinton, but he 
 threw it all
 back in the interviewer's face. Now it seems that interview has been 
 pulled from
 online access. Wonder why?  Peace, D. Mindock

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Re: [Biofuel] A textbook definition of cowardice

2006-09-27 Thread E. C.
maybe pulled from MsM (don't know, don't watch,
especially FauxNews) -- but it's all over the
blogosphere, even HuffPost -- just 1/2 hr ago i
watched And read the unexpurgated original version on
Truthout.org.  Keith Olberman nailed it, as usual --
must be something special (in the genes, maybe?) about
 Keiths! ;-)~
Peace, Love, and NO MORE WARS!
E. Allen C. 

--- D. Mindock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I saw the interview where Fox News tried to sandbag
 Clinton, but he threw it all
 back in the interviewer's face. Now it seems that
 interview has been pulled from
 online access. Wonder why?  Peace, D. Mindock
 
 
 A textbook definition of cowardice
 Keith Olbermann comments on Bill Clinton's Fox News
 interview
 SPECIAL COMMENT
 By Keith Olbermann
 Anchor, 'Countdown'
 MSNBC
 
 
 Updated: 7:29 p.m. CT Sept 25, 2006
 
 The headlines about them are, of course, entirely
 wrong.
 
 It is not essential that a past president, bullied
 and sandbagged by a
 monkey posing as a newscaster, finally lashed back.
 
 It is not important that the current President's
 portable public
 chorus has described his predecessor's tone as
 crazed.
 
 Our tone should be crazed. The nation's freedoms are
 under assault by
 an administration whose policies can do us as much
 damage as al Qaida;
 the nation's marketplace of ideas is being poisoned
 by a propaganda
 company so blatant that Tokyo Rose would've quit.
 
 Nonetheless. The headline is this:
 
 Bill Clinton did what almost none of us have done in
 five years.
 
 He has spoken the truth about 9/11, and the current
 presidential administration.
 
 At least I tried, he said of his own efforts to
 capture or kill
 Osama bin Laden. That's the difference in me and
 some, including all
 of the right-wingers who are attacking me now. They
 had eight months
 to try; they did not try. I tried.
 
 Thus in his supposed emeritus years has Mr. Clinton
 taken forceful and
 triumphant action for honesty, and for us; action as
 vital and as
 courageous as any of his presidency; action as
 startling and as
 liberating, as any, by any one, in these last five
 long years.
 
 The Bush Administration did not try to get Osama bin
 Laden before 9/11.
 
 The Bush Administration ignored all the evidence
 gathered by its predecessors.
 
 The Bush Administration did not understand the Daily
 Briefing entitled
 Bin Laden Determined To Strike in U.S.
 
 The Bush Administration did not try.
 
 Moreover, for the last five years one month and two
 weeks, the current
 administration, and in particular the President, has
 been given the
 greatest pass for incompetence and malfeasance in
 American history!
 
 President Roosevelt was rightly blamed for ignoring
 the warning
 signs-some of them, 17 years old-before Pearl
 Harbor.
 
 President Hoover was correctly blamed for-if not the
 Great Depression
 itself-then the disastrous economic steps he took in
 the immediate
 aftermath of the Stock Market Crash.
 
 Even President Lincoln assumed some measure of
 responsibility for the
 Civil War-though talk of Southern secession had
 begun as early as
 1832.
 
 But not this president.
 
 To hear him bleat and whine and bully at nearly
 every opportunity, one
 would think someone else had been president on
 September 11th, 2001 --
 or the nearly eight months that preceded it.
 
 That hardly reflects the honesty nor manliness we
 expect of the executive.
 
 
 But if his own fitness to serve is of no true
 concern to him, perhaps
 we should simply sigh and keep our fingers crossed,
 until a grown-up
 takes the job three Januarys from now.
 
 Except for this.
 
 After five years of skirting even the most
 inarguable of facts-that he
 was president on 9/11 and he must bear some
 responsibility for his,
 and our, unreadiness, Mr. Bush has now moved,
 unmistakably and without
 conscience or shame, towards re-writing history, and
 attempting to
 make the responsibility, entirely Mr. Clinton's.
 
 Of course he is not honest enough to do that
 directly.
 
 As with all the other nefariousness and slime of
 this, our worst
 presidency since James Buchanan, he is having it
 done for him, by
 proxy.
 
 Thus, the sandbag effort by Fox News Friday
 afternoon.
 
 Consider the timing: the very weekend the National
 Intelligence
 Estimate would be released and show the Iraq war to
 be the fraudulent
 failure it is-not a check on terror, but fertilizer
 for it.
 
 
 The kind of proof of incompetence, for which the
 administration and
 its hyenas at Fox need to find a diversion, in a
 scapegoat.
 
 It was the kind of cheap trick which would get a
 journalist fired-but
 a propagandist, promoted:
 
 Promise to talk of charity and generosity; but
 instead launch into the
 lies and distortions with which the Authoritarians
 among us attack the
 virtuous and reward the useless.
 
 And don't even be professional enough to assume the
 responsibility for
 the slanders yourself; blame your audience for
 

[Biofuel] A textbook definition of cowardice

2006-09-26 Thread D. Mindock



I saw the interview where 
Fox News tried to sandbag Clinton, but he threw it all
back in the interviewer's face. Now it 
seems that interview has been pulled from
online access.Wonder why? 
Peace, D. Mindock
A textbook definition of cowardiceKeith 
Olbermann comments on Bill Clinton's Fox News interviewSPECIAL COMMENTBy 
Keith OlbermannAnchor, 'Countdown'MSNBCUpdated: 7:29 p.m. CT 
Sept 25, 2006The headlines about them are, of course, entirely 
wrong.It is not essential that a past president, bullied and sandbagged 
by amonkey posing as a newscaster, finally lashed back.It is not 
important that the current President's portable publicchorus has described 
his predecessor's tone as "crazed."Our tone should be crazed. The 
nation's freedoms are under assault byan administration whose policies can 
do us as much damage as al Qaida;the nation's marketplace of ideas is being 
poisoned by a propagandacompany so blatant that Tokyo Rose would've 
quit.Nonetheless. The headline is this:Bill Clinton did what 
almost none of us have done in five years.He has spoken the truth about 
9/11, and the current presidential administration."At least I tried," he 
said of his own efforts to capture or killOsama bin Laden. "That's the 
difference in me and some, including allof the right-wingers who are 
attacking me now. They had eight monthsto try; they did not try. I 
tried."Thus in his supposed emeritus years has Mr. Clinton taken 
forceful andtriumphant action for honesty, and for us; action as vital and 
ascourageous as any of his presidency; action as startling and 
asliberating, as any, by any one, in these last five long years.The 
Bush Administration did not try to get Osama bin Laden before 9/11.The 
Bush Administration ignored all the evidence gathered by its 
predecessors.The Bush Administration did not understand the Daily 
Briefing entitled"Bin Laden Determined To Strike in U.S."The Bush 
Administration did not try.Moreover, for the last five years one month 
and two weeks, the currentadministration, and in particular the President, 
has been given thegreatest "pass" for incompetence and malfeasance in 
American history!President Roosevelt was rightly blamed for ignoring the 
warningsigns—some of them, 17 years old—before Pearl 
Harbor.President Hoover was correctly blamed for—if not the Great 
Depressionitself—then the disastrous economic steps he took in the 
immediateaftermath of the Stock Market Crash.Even President Lincoln 
assumed some measure of responsibility for theCivil War—though talk of 
Southern secession had begun as early as1832.But not this 
president.To hear him bleat and whine and bully at nearly every 
opportunity, onewould think someone else had been president on September 
11th, 2001 --or the nearly eight months that preceded it.That hardly 
reflects the honesty nor manliness we expect of the executive.But if 
his own fitness to serve is of no true concern to him, perhapswe should 
simply sigh and keep our fingers crossed, until a grown-uptakes the job 
three Januarys from now.Except for this.After five years of 
skirting even the most inarguable of facts—that hewas president on 9/11 and 
he must bear some responsibility for his,and our, unreadiness, Mr. Bush has 
now moved, unmistakably and withoutconscience or shame, towards re-writing 
history, and attempting tomake the responsibility, entirely Mr. 
Clinton's.Of course he is not honest enough to do that 
directly.As with all the other nefariousness and slime of this, our 
worstpresidency since James Buchanan, he is having it done for him, 
byproxy.Thus, the sandbag effort by Fox News Friday 
afternoon.Consider the timing: the very weekend the National 
IntelligenceEstimate would be released and show the Iraq war to be the 
fraudulentfailure it is—not a check on terror, but fertilizer for 
it.The kind of proof of incompetence, for which the administration 
andits hyenas at Fox need to find a diversion, in a scapegoat.It was 
the kind of cheap trick which would get a journalist fired—buta 
propagandist, promoted:Promise to talk of charity and generosity; but 
instead launch into thelies and distortions with which the Authoritarians 
among us attack thevirtuous and reward the useless.And don't even be 
professional enough to assume the responsibility forthe slanders yourself; 
blame your audience for "e-mailing" you thequestion.Mr. Clinton 
responded as you have seen.He told the great truth untold about this 
administration's negligence,perhaps criminal negligence, about bin 
Laden.He was brave.Then again, Chris Wallace might be braver 
still. Had I in one momentsurrendered all my credibility as a journalist, 
and been irredeemablyhumiliated, as was he, I would have gone home and 
started a new careerselling seeds by mail.The smearing by proxy, of 
course, did not begin Friday afternoon.Disney was first to sell-out its 
corporate reputation, with "The Pathto 9/11." Of that company's crimes 
against