[Biofuel] Bio dielsel processing
Hi, I would like to know if there is anyone who can help me with information on a complete bio diesel processing plan capable of producing 1,000 gallons a day. I intend to use thousand gallon stainless steel tanks. I intend to take the first thousand gallon stainless steel tank, install some type of heating elements where I can then take the raw material (used cooking oil), heat it up and pump it through a filterisation system into a second thousand gallon stainless steel tank. I will then take the proper amounts of methanol and powdered lye and blend this mixture back and forth from the second thousand gallon tank into a third thousand gallon tank. Does this system sound practical? If so, where can I learn more and possibly purchase the filterisation system, the pumping system, and the heating elements for my first thousand gallon tank or where I would be able to purchase such a tank? I have studied a few formulas on the internet and I would like to know your opinion on the following one: {you take 800 gallons of already filtered used cooking oil, add 200 gallons of methanol and 40lbs. of industrial or technical grade lye, blend this for 24hrs, therefore producing a bio diesel that would pass the ASTM U.S fuel test} If this formula is not accurate, where can I obtain a more accurate one that would pass the ASTM test? Thank you very much for your time and your patience. I look forward to your reply. Yours sincerely, David LeeExpress yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messenger Download today it's FREE! ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Bio dielsel processing
I believe there are commercial plants you can purchase that will produce that volume (not sure though but I contacted Pacific Biodiesel in Hawaii a couple of years ago and they did send me some information about this http://www.biodiesel.com/ ) Ramon On 9/21/05, David Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I would like to know if there is anyone who can help me with information on a complete bio diesel processing plan capable of producing 1,000 gallons a day. I intend to use thousand gallon stainless steel tanks. I intend to take the first thousand gallon stainless steel tank, install some type of heating elements where I can then take the raw material (used cooking oil), heat it up and pump it through a filterisation system into a second thousand gallon stainless steel tank. I will then take the proper amounts of methanol and powdered lye and blend this mixture back and forth from the second thousand gallon tank into a third thousand gallon tank. Does this system sound practical? If so, where can I learn more and possibly purchase the filterisation system, the pumping system, and the heating elements for my first thousand gallon tank or where I would be able to purchase such a tank? I have studied a few formulas on the internet and I would like to know your opinion on the following one: {you take 800 gallons of already filtered used cooking oil, add 200 gallons of methanol and 40lbs. of industrial or technical grade lye, blend this for 24hrs, therefore producing a bio diesel that would pass the ASTM U.S fuel test} If this formula is not accurate, where can I obtain a more accurate one that would pass the ASTM test? Thank you very much for your time and your patience. I look forward to your reply. Yours sincerely, David Lee Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messenger Download today it's FREE! ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Bio dielsel processing
I know that blue sun biodiesel is building a large plant (probably much much larger than this), but they might also be willing to design a system this size, or give you an idea on who can help with this. On 9/21/05, Ramon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe there are commercial plants you can purchase that will produce that volume (not sure though but I contacted Pacific Biodiesel in Hawaii a couple of years ago and they did send me some information about this http://www.biodiesel.com/ ) Ramon On 9/21/05, David Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I would like to know if there is anyone who can help me with information on a complete bio diesel processing plan capable of producing 1,000 gallons a day. I intend to use thousand gallon stainless steel tanks. I intend to take the first thousand gallon stainless steel tank, install some type of heating elements where I can then take the raw material (used cooking oil), heat it up and pump it through a filterisation system into a second thousand gallon stainless steel tank. I will then take the proper amounts of methanol and powdered lye and blend this mixture back and forth from the second thousand gallon tank into a third thousand gallon tank. Does this system sound practical? If so, where can I learn more and possibly purchase the filterisation system, the pumping system, and the heating elements for my first thousand gallon tank or where I would be able to purchase such a tank? I have studied a few formulas on the internet and I would like to know your opinion on the following one: {you take 800 gallons of already filtered used cooking oil, add 200 gallons of methanol and 40lbs. of industrial or technical grade lye, blend this for 24hrs, therefore producing a bio diesel that would pass the ASTM U.S fuel test} If this formula is not accurate, where can I obtain a more accurate one that would pass the ASTM test? Thank you very much for your time and your patience. I look forward to your reply. Yours sincerely, David Lee Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messenger Download today it's FREE! ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Bio dielsel processing
I know that blue sun biodiesel is building a large plant (probably much much larger than this), but they might also be willing to design a system this size, or give you an idea on who can help with this. Unlikely, it's an awkward size. Try these: Biofuel Systems provides state-of-the-art biodiesel process equipment which meets all recognised international safety standards (eg. ATEX) and will produce biodiesel from a range of feedstocks to meet recognised standards, including ASTM 6751-03, EN 14214:2003, DIN V 51606. Currently offers systems from 900 litres per week upwards. Available in Australasia through New Zealand Biofuels Limited, and in the rest of world direct from Biofuel Systems, 58 Church Street, Ormskirk, Lancashire, ENGLAND L39 3AW. Fax: +44 1695 571222 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://biofuelsystems.com Ageratec Sweden makes automated biodiesel processors using sequence controllers, ranging from 800 to 8,000 liters capacity. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.carryon.se/index.asp?lang=EN Or this, from Todd, very scaleable: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor9.html 833 Gallon Batch Plant I have studied a few formulas on the internet and I would like to know your opinion on the following one: {you take 800 gallons of already filtered used cooking oil, add 200 gallons of methanol and 40lbs. of industrial or technical grade lye, blend this for 24hrs, therefore producing a bio diesel that would pass the ASTM U.S fuel test} If this formula is not accurate, where can I obtain a more accurate one that would pass the ASTM test? Um, you have to titrate it, you can't just dump in a set amount of catalyst. That works out to 6 gm per litre, which some people claim is an average amount, but you don't want the average amount, you want the correct amount to deal with the level of FFA in that particular batch of oil. As for blending it for 24 hours, that depends on what kind of agitation you're using. 24 hours is a very long processing time. You say nothing about the temperature. I think that's a rather useless formula. Start here: Where do I start? http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#start Keep going. Best wishes Keith On 9/21/05, Ramon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe there are commercial plants you can purchase that will produce that volume (not sure though but I contacted Pacific Biodiesel in Hawaii a couple of years ago and they did send me some information about this http://www.biodiesel.com/ ) Ramon On 9/21/05, David Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I would like to know if there is anyone who can help me with information on a complete bio diesel processing plan capable of producing 1,000 gallons a day. I intend to use thousand gallon stainless steel tanks. I intend to take the first thousand gallon stainless steel tank, install some type of heating elements where I can then take the raw material (used cooking oil), heat it up and pump it through a filterisation system into a second thousand gallon stainless steel tank. I will then take the proper amounts of methanol and powdered lye and blend this mixture back and forth from the second thousand gallon tank into a third thousand gallon tank. Does this system sound practical? If so, where can I learn more and possibly purchase the filterisation system, the pumping system, and the heating elements for my first thousand gallon tank or where I would be able to purchase such a tank? I have studied a few formulas on the internet and I would like to know your opinion on the following one: {you take 800 gallons of already filtered used cooking oil, add 200 gallons of methanol and 40lbs. of industrial or technical grade lye, blend this for 24hrs, therefore producing a bio diesel that would pass the ASTM U.S fuel test} If this formula is not accurate, where can I obtain a more accurate one that would pass the ASTM test? Thank you very much for your time and your patience. I look forward to your reply. Yours sincerely, David Lee ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/