Re: [Biofuel] Chicage - Venezuela

2006-01-09 Thread Joe Street
But this whole discussion is somewhat academic isn't it?  I mean surely 
to blazes the city of Chicago must already be involved in international 
terrorism?  I mean when you consider that the US administration is one 
of the worst offenders in that regard, I can't imagine that a city the 
size of Chicago can plead innocence on the charge.  There must be 
military contractors in the area and in the very least the city is 
making tax revenues off of thier operations within the municipality 
which means the city is already complicit in acts of terror and 
agression all over the world! Oh wait - I forgot we don't tax the rich 
and powerful - nev'r mind.

Joe

Mike Weaver wrote:

But we seem to have no problem buying oil from Saudi Arabia, which has 
had far more to do with funding and sponsoring terrorism than
Venezuela.  I have yet to see anything conclusive about Chavez other 
than he has clamped down on some members of the opposition in his own 
country.
I fail to see how he is much of a threat to the US.

Not to mention, there is a Citgo station AT THE PENTAGON!  It sells 
Biodiesel!

My head hurts.

Mike

Aramco is a foreign government-owned company, are your local governments 
allowed to buy fuel?

Anyway, whatever, the news report says:

  But two months later, despite claims of a looming budget crisis, the
  CTA president has no intent or plan to accept the offer, according
  to CTA spokesperson Ibis Antongiorgi. She gave no explanation.

If your explanation had any chance of standing up I don't doubt she'd 
have used it, but she didn't. People like Weisbrot would surely know it 
too. I think you're just grabbing for an excuse.

IMHO, considering the current context in the US of oil interests, 
corruption and interfering with foreign governments (and even your own), 
your arguments seem somewhat bizarre. In the context of the poor too, 
especially after some of Hurricane Katrina's revelations.
But you blamed the victims at the time, didn't you?

Nobody's said the S-word yet (aarghh), LOL!

Best

Keith



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[Biofuel] Chicage - Venezuela

2006-01-08 Thread Mike Weaver
But we seem to have no problem buying oil from Saudi Arabia, which has 
had far more to do with funding and sponsoring terrorism than
Venezuela.  I have yet to see anything conclusive about Chavez other 
than he has clamped down on some members of the opposition in his own 
country.
I fail to see how he is much of a threat to the US.

Not to mention, there is a Citgo station AT THE PENTAGON!  It sells 
Biodiesel!

My head hurts.

Mike

Aramco is a foreign government-owned company, are your local governments 
allowed to buy fuel?

Anyway, whatever, the news report says:

  But two months later, despite claims of a looming budget crisis, the
  CTA president has no intent or plan to accept the offer, according
  to CTA spokesperson Ibis Antongiorgi. She gave no explanation.

If your explanation had any chance of standing up I don't doubt she'd 
have used it, but she didn't. People like Weisbrot would surely know it 
too. I think you're just grabbing for an excuse.

IMHO, considering the current context in the US of oil interests, 
corruption and interfering with foreign governments (and even your own), 
your arguments seem somewhat bizarre. In the context of the poor too, 
especially after some of Hurricane Katrina's revelations.
But you blamed the victims at the time, didn't you?

Nobody's said the S-word yet (aarghh), LOL!

Best

Keith



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