Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: CANADIAN POLICE OFFICIAL APOLOGIZES FOR MISTAKES
Since when does an apology cost money?? Sheesh... - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren To: biofuel Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 12:54 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Fwd: CANADIAN POLICE OFFICIAL APOLOGIZES FOR MISTAKES How about restitution of lost wages and payment for pain and sudffering? Talk is cheap. Kirk CANADIAN POLICE OFFICIAL APOLOGIZES FOR MISTAKES Errors Led to Torture of Innocent Man By Doug Struck Washington Post Foreign ServiceFriday, September 29, 2006; Page A16 TORONTO, Sept. 28 -- Canada's top Mountie apologized Thursday for the "terrible injustices" done to a Canadian Muslim spirited to Syria and tortured for 10 months on false suspicions of terrorist ties. Critics of the government demanded that the prime minister offer his own apology. Giuliano Zaccardelli, commissioner of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, directed his remarks to Maher Arar, 36, who four years ago was detained at a New York airport and delivered to a Syrian prison by U.S. agents. Those agents were working on false information given to them by Canada. "Mr. Arar, I wish to take this opportunity to express publicly to you and to your wife and to your children how truly sorry I am" for RCMP actions that led to "the terrible injustices that you experienced and the pain that you and your family endured," Zaccardelli said, testifying before a parliamentary committee. The remarks on the Arar case were Zaccardelli's first since a judicial inquiry on the controversy was released Sept. 18. The inquiry found that RCMP agents had given exaggerated and often flat-out false reports to U.S. intelligence agents, suggesting that Arar had terrorist connections and was the subject of a terrorist investigation. In fact, the exhaustive inquiry found, he was an innocent computer programmer. The United States sent Arar to Syria as part of its "extraordinary rendition" program, in which terrorist suspects are secretly dispatched to other countries, some of which are known to torture prisoners and practice brutal interrogation methods. U.S. officials have not acknowledged Arar's innocence or any wrongdoing on their part. Political critics excoriated Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper on Thursday for balking at extending the same apology made by the RCMP commissioner. The House of Commons unanimously voted last week that "apologies should be presented" to Arar. But Harper's government has said any such formal _expression_ from the government must be part of a negotiated settlement to compensate the father of two children, ages 9 and 4. "Canada owes a moral debt to Mr. Arar and his children," Marlene Jennings, a Liberal Party lawmaker from Quebec, said in debate in the House of Commons. "The Conservative government has yet to apologize. Surely compassion is not a matter of negotiation." "The government agrees that Mr. Arar was the victim of a great injustice," responded Jason Kenney, the Conservative Party parliamentary secretary to Harper. "But we have a responsibility to the taxpayers to ensure that the result will be responsible financially." Arar returned to Canada after his imprisonment in a coffin-size dungeon in Syria and has campaigned to clear his name. - Fair Use Notice This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. (See: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml.) If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz l
[Biofuel] Fwd: CANADIAN POLICE OFFICIAL APOLOGIZES FOR MISTAKES
How about restitution of lost wages and payment for pain and sudffering? Talk is cheap. Kirk CANADIAN POLICE OFFICIAL APOLOGIZES FOR MISTAKES Errors Led to Torture of Innocent Man By Doug Struck Washington Post Foreign ServiceFriday, September 29, 2006; Page A16 TORONTO, Sept. 28 -- Canada's top Mountie apologized Thursday for the "terrible injustices" done to a Canadian Muslim spirited to Syria and tortured for 10 months on false suspicions of terrorist ties. Critics of the government demanded that the prime minister offer his own apology. Giuliano Zaccardelli, commissioner of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, directed his remarks to Maher Arar, 36, who four years ago was detained at a New York airport and delivered to a Syrian prison by U.S. agents. Those agents were working on false information given to them by Canada. "Mr. Arar, I wish to take this opportunity to express publicly to you and to your wife and to your children how truly sorry I am" for RCMP actions that led to "the terrible injustices that you experienced and the pain that you and your family endured," Zaccardelli said, testifying before a parliamentary committee. The remarks on the Arar case were Zaccardelli's first since a judicial inquiry on the controversy was released Sept. 18. The inquiry found that RCMP agents had given exaggerated and often flat-out false reports to U.S. intelligence agents, suggesting that Arar had terrorist connections and was the subject of a terrorist investigation. In fact, the exhaustive inquiry found, he was an innocent computer programmer. The United States sent Arar to Syria as part of its "extraordinary rendition" program, in which terrorist suspects are secretly dispatched to other countries, some of which are known to torture prisoners and practice brutal interrogation methods. U.S. officials have not acknowledged Arar's innocence or any wrongdoing on their part. Political critics excoriated Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper on Thursday for balking at extending the same apology made by the RCMP commissioner. The House of Commons unanimously voted last week that "apologies should be presented" to Arar. But Harper's government has said any such formal _expression_ from the government must be part of a negotiated settlement to compensate the father of two children, ages 9 and 4. "Canada owes a moral debt to Mr. Arar and his children," Marlene Jennings, a Liberal Party lawmaker from Quebec, said in debate in the House of Commons. "The Conservative government has yet to apologize. Surely compassion is not a matter of negotiation." "The government agrees that Mr. Arar was the victim of a great injustice," responded Jason Kenney, the Conservative Party parliamentary secretary to Harper. "But we have a responsibility to the taxpayers to ensure that the result will be responsible financially." Arar returned to Canada after his imprisonment in a coffin-size dungeon in Syria and has campaigned to clear his name. - Fair Use Notice This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. (See: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml.) If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: CANADIAN POLICE OFFICIAL APOLOGIZES FOR MISTAKES
Those who caused the losses, pain will not be the ones to paying restitution. I propose the name every elected politician and political appointees who vote for, or otherwise support torture, be put in a hat. Whenever an innocent is torture, a name will be drawn from that, and that person will be subjected, to whatever the innocent was subjected to. Doug, N0LKK Kansas USA inc. When all else fails- Amateur Radio http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/pscm/sec1-ch1.html ARES Kirk McLoren wrote: How about restitution of lost wages and payment for pain and sudffering? Talk is cheap. Kirk ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: CANADIAN POLICE OFFICIAL APOLOGIZES FOR MISTAKES
Brilliant idea!!KirkDoug Younker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those who caused the losses, pain will not be the ones to paying restitution. I propose the name every elected politician and political appointees who vote for, or otherwise support torture, be put in a hat. Whenever an innocent is torture, a name will be drawn from that, and that person will be subjected, to whatever the innocent was subjected to.Doug, N0LKKKansas USA inc.When all else fails- Amateur Radio http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/pscm/sec1-ch1.html ARESKirk McLoren wrote: How about restitution of lost wages and payment for pain and suffering? Talk is cheap. Kirk Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1ยข/min. Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
