Re: [Biofuel] Ishmael/ was: Too many People
Hi All ; Not knowing anything about Ishmael, it took a while to search the site to find the main points. But absolutely fascinating reading at : http://www.ishmael.com/Interaction/QandA/browse.cfm Best Regards, Peter G. Thailand --- JD2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok thanks. At first I was insulted what with Ishmael being a gorilla but I'm not any more and will be going to the book shop or library tomorrow to find a copy. Thank you, JD2005 - Original Message - From: Joanne Olafson Regarding both posts of these posts (see below) from JD2005, you can also check this website: www.ishmael.com - the website was started when the book was published. And yes, I also have very high regard for the book Ishmael. I totally agree with Marylynn: and you are interested in this subject...then reading this is a must. Regards, Joanne ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Ishmael/ was: Too many People
Ok thanks. At first I was insulted what with Ishmael being a gorilla but I'm not any more and will be going to the book shop or library tomorrow to find a copy. Thank you, JD2005 - Original Message - From: Joanne Olafson Regarding both posts of these posts (see below) from JD2005, you can also check this website: www.ishmael.com - the website was started when the book was published. And yes, I also have very high regard for the book Ishmael. I totally agree with Marylynn: and you are interested in this subject...then reading this is a must. Regards, Joanne ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Ishmael/ was: Too many People
Quinn .. and you are interested in this subject .. then reading this is a must. The way I think .. and why I think that must be understood before I can begin to understand the concept of change. If I can begin to grasp the programming that goes into my thinking, perhaps I can begin to re-think .. or just actually begin to think. Most of what I do is react based upon a lifetime of programming .. and that doesn't really take me very far down the road. Mary Lynn Mary Lynn Schmidt ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Animal Behavior Modification . Behavior Problems . Ordained Minister . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Radionics . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Herbs. . Polarity . Reiki . Spiritual Travel The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ From: Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] was: Too many People Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 17:50:10 -0800 on 3/9/05 5:23 PM, Hakan Falk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we start to talk about too many people running around, then the next question must be who they are. It then will be sorted out by what is sustainable, at the end it is no other possibility. The alternative is to start to move towards sustainability, with necessary voluntary adjustments of the excesses, greater efficiency, loyalty and cooperation. This is the way that people survived in the past, but not without being painfully forced to do it. The only question is if we can do it with less pain this time? Limiting the number of allowed offspring seems reasonable, with infanticide punished, of course. Disease and starvation will take their own toll, without any ghoulish sorting except poverty itself. -K ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Ishmael/ was: Too many People
This is an excellent book! I recommend it to everyone. It certainly opened up my eyes in the way I think, and the way I live my life. I was going through a divorce at the time and it put a lot into perspective. - Original Message - From: Marylynn Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 9:10 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Ishmael/ was: Too many People For those of you that have not had the opportunity to read Ishmael by Daniel Quinn .. and you are interested in this subject .. then reading this is a must. The way I think .. and why I think that must be understood before I can begin to understand the concept of change. If I can begin to grasp the programming that goes into my thinking, perhaps I can begin to re-think .. or just actually begin to think. Most of what I do is react based upon a lifetime of programming .. and that doesn't really take me very far down the road. Mary Lynn Mary Lynn Schmidt ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Animal Behavior Modification . Behavior Problems . Ordained Minister . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Radionics . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Herbs. . Polarity . Reiki . Spiritual Travel The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ From: Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] was: Too many People Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 17:50:10 -0800 on 3/9/05 5:23 PM, Hakan Falk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we start to talk about too many people running around, then the next question must be who they are. It then will be sorted out by what is sustainable, at the end it is no other possibility. The alternative is to start to move towards sustainability, with necessary voluntary adjustments of the excesses, greater efficiency, loyalty and cooperation. This is the way that people survived in the past, but not without being painfully forced to do it. The only question is if we can do it with less pain this time? Limiting the number of allowed offspring seems reasonable, with infanticide punished, of course. Disease and starvation will take their own toll, without any ghoulish sorting except poverty itself. -K ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Ishmael/ was: Too many People
check this website: www.ishmael.com - the website was started when the book was published. And yes, I also have very high regard for the book Ishmael. I totally agree with Marylynn: and you are interested in this subject...then reading this is a must. Regards, Joanne - Original Message - From: JD2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ishmael/ was: Too many People From: Marylynn Schmidt For those of you that have not had the opportunity to read Ishmael by Daniel Quinn .. and you are interested in this subject .. then reading this is a must. Is this the one about mother earth getting her revenge.I can't think of the name they use for mother earth though. JD2005 [cut and paste:] Stop, Rewind; I seem to have hit a major nerve ganglion which has triggered a very mixed but passionate response from everybody.I should clarify what I believe. I believe that had we utilised renewables and lived a less urbane (hope this is what I mean, squalid town/city based existence) but natural existence communing with nature and the like there would be fewer people. That's what I believe.I do not believe that there should be mass exterminations or a maximum age or anything like that at all. JD2005 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Ishmael/ was: Too many People
through time. No, Ishmael has nothing to do with any revenge. .. what it did for me was take just about everything I thought I knew and turn it upside down. I've seen it in my local library so it shouldn't be difficult to find .. very easy read and a lot to digest. Mary Lynn Mary Lynn Schmidt ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Animal Behavior Modification . Behavior Problems . Ordained Minister . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Radionics . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Herbs. . Polarity . Reiki . Spiritual Travel The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ From: JD2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ishmael/ was: Too many People Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 14:22:26 -0800 From: Marylynn Schmidt For those of you that have not had the opportunity to read Ishmael by Daniel Quinn .. and you are interested in this subject .. then reading this is a must. Is this the one about mother earth getting her revenge.I can't think of the name they use for mother earth though. JD2005 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Ishmael/ was: Too many People
From: Marylynn Schmidt For those of you that have not had the opportunity to read Ishmael by Daniel Quinn .. and you are interested in this subject .. then reading this is a must. Is this the one about mother earth getting her revenge.I can't think of the name they use for mother earth though. JD2005 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
