Re: [Biofuel] Jatropha / Toxic Properties / Micro Algae Link

2005-12-18 Thread James Quaid




I've read that jatropha is
toxic only if taken in sufficient quantity, it is used as a
purgative, contains lignites that can be used allegedly as an anti
cancer treatment (jatropine), bark as raw material dye and leaves that
can be used to feed silkworms. Not bad for a third world agro
business crop. 

Micro algae is being used to clean up coal fired power stations. It
grows very quickly and removes most of the contaminants from the
exhaust. Please see:
http://www.nrel.gov/publications/epubs0303.pdf for more info.
I've also read that pressing the dried algae is the preferred method
for extracting oil. But, what's done with the toxic remains aren't
mentioned.

Regards,
JQ




Keith Addison wrote:

  Hello JQ

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I've purchased Jatropha seeds and will be attempting to sprout them 
in the Spring.   Waste fryer oil is becoming scarce.  The two most 
sustainable biodiesel feed stocks are:
   1. Micro algae
   2. Jatropha Curcas.

  
  
What a strange idea of sustainability, especially since nobody's 
actually been able to find any biodiesel made from micro-algae yet, 
other than all the pie-in-the-sky, and some reports from India and 
elsewhere on jatropha have been far fmk favourable.

As Mike Weaver just said, "Iraq, Algae - it's all the same to me", 
and to me too pretty much. Whether invading Iraq or dreaming about 
algae yields, what's mostly a path of denial because of a 
drug-addiction problem (gotta guzzle) is unlikely to lead to a 
glorious future for evermore, which is what sustainable is supposed 
to mean.

I'm beginning to think people either get it or they don't, and that 
if they don't they won't (or is it the other way round?), but there's 
this, once again:

How much fuel can we grow? How much land will it take?
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html#howmuch

Best wishes

Keith


  
  
Regards,
JQ
Cave Creek, Aridzona
lres1 wrote:



  Hello all,
Am in a bit of a quandary as to Jatropha nuts for Bio fuel.

I have been advised that the non toxic variety of Jatropha found in 
Mexico produces no oil for relatively simple processing to bio fuel 
where that of  the toxic variety yields oil.

Fable or fallacy?

Still have found no place to buy the Mexican seeds, is the above 
the reason why?

Thank you to any one that can help make things fly here without 
long term damage to the environment but using such plants for land 
stability, the slowing of land erosion and river bank stability as 
well as for banks for rice terraces and hedges. How much silt does 
the Mekong river carry each year that could be reduced by such 
planting?

Doug
  

  
  

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Re: [Biofuel] Jatropha / Toxic Properties / Micro Algae Link

2005-12-18 Thread lres1



JQ,

To eat one Jatropha seed from heregives 
thestomachan extremely sickly feeling with vomitingand a very 
dizzy head. It is very similar to have ingested 8triplewhisky and 
sodas. Lasting effects are forno less than 8 hours. (Above ingested by 
accident by a moderate drinker at age 21).
Best to all.
Doug 
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  I've read that jatropha is 
  toxic only if taken in sufficient quantity, it is used as a 
  purgative, contains lignites that can be used allegedly as an anti 
  cancer treatment (jatropine), bark as raw material dye and leaves that 
  can be used to feed silkworms. Not bad for a third world 
  agro business crop. 

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