Re: [Biofuel] NaOH does not dissolve
Sunoco usually sells methanol through their racing gas division. 5 gallons is about 30 bucks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sure now that the camp stove fuel must not be methanol . It has been over 24 hours and the lye has not dissolved at all. I thought I had read that the stove fuel would work but I guess I was wrong. On the back of the can it says it contains a refined petroluem naptha. Now I am right or wrong wood naptha is methanol? But again now on looking closer I did not do my homework right because the can says it is petroleum naptha not wood. Oh by the way I am from Pa.. Thank you, Alan ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] NaOH does not dissolve
This is what I found for the chemical compostion of wood naptha used for denaturing ethanol: Composition of wood naptha: There is no prescriptive list of ingredients, but some or all of the following are found in approved synthetic wood naptha: * pyridine, * pyridine bases, * allyl alcohol, * crotenaldehyde, * picolene, * denatonium benzoate, * methyl alcohol. So, it may contain methanol, but it certainly doesn't have to be pure methanol. Petroleum Naptha is a light petroleum distillate, C5-C9 On 11/28/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sure now that the camp stove fuel must not be methanol . It has been over 24 hours and the lye has not dissolved at all. I thought I had read that the stove fuel would work but I guess I was wrong. On the back of the can it says it contains a refined petroluem naptha. Now I am right or wrong wood naptha is methanol? But again now on looking closer I did not do my homework right because the can says it is petroleum naptha not wood. Oh by the way I am from Pa.. Thank you, Alan ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] NaOH does not dissolve
Hi Alan The cold weather could be a problem. In the summer I put my methanol tank in a 5 gal bucket to cool it since it gets so hot with the mixing process and dissolves in short order. 8 hrs I mix it about every 1/2 hr. but in the cold weather I put the methanol tank in hot tap water to get it started yet I seem to mix it for much longer to get it to dissolve. Hope this helps. Derick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bob allen Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 5:26 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] NaOH does not dissolve are you sure that it is methanol? camp fuel in my parts- the Ozarks- is white gas , basically gasoline. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am working on making my first batch of Biodiesel and I can not seem to get the NaOH to dissolve in the methanol. I am using Ozark Trail brand stove fuel purchased from WalMart for methanol. I did read on the website that the NaOH can be difficult to dissolve but it has been 18 hours since I have mixed it and little or none appears to have dissolved. I did have the methanol stored in my garage in a sealed container for a month or maybe a little more and the temps were down to 6 degrees Farinenheit. Could these cold tempatures have messed it up? Also I am only trying to mix 5 liters of methanol with 108 grams of NaOH split evenly into two containers because I could not find one container large enough that was translucent. Any ideas or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Alan ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.13.7/182 - Release Date: 11/24/2005 -- Bob Allen http://ozarker.org/bob Science is what we have learned about how to keep from fooling ourselves - Richard Feynman ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] NaOH does not dissolve
I am working on making my first batch of Biodiesel and I can not seem to get the NaOH to dissolve in the methanol. I am using Ozark Trail brand stove fuel purchased from WalMart for methanol. I did read on the website that the NaOH can be difficult to dissolve but it has been 18 hours since I have mixed it and little or none appears to have dissolved. I did have the methanol stored in my garage in a sealed container for a month or maybe a little more and the temps were down to 6 degrees Farinenheit. Could these cold tempatures have messed it up? Also I am only trying to mix 5 liters of methanol with 108 grams of NaOH split evenly into two containers because I could not find one container large enough that was translucent. Any ideas or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Alan ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] NaOH does not dissolve
are you sure that it is methanol? camp fuel in my parts- the Ozarks- is white gas , basically gasoline. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am working on making my first batch of Biodiesel and I can not seem to get the NaOH to dissolve in the methanol. I am using Ozark Trail brand stove fuel purchased from WalMart for methanol. I did read on the website that the NaOH can be difficult to dissolve but it has been 18 hours since I have mixed it and little or none appears to have dissolved. I did have the methanol stored in my garage in a sealed container for a month or maybe a little more and the temps were down to 6 degrees Farinenheit. Could these cold tempatures have messed it up? Also I am only trying to mix 5 liters of methanol with 108 grams of NaOH split evenly into two containers because I could not find one container large enough that was translucent. Any ideas or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Alan ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.13.7/182 - Release Date: 11/24/2005 -- Bob Allen http://ozarker.org/bob Science is what we have learned about how to keep from fooling ourselves - Richard Feynman ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] NaOH does not dissolve
I am sure now that the camp stove fuel must not be methanol . It has been over 24 hours and the lye has not dissolved at all. I thought I had read that the stove fuel would work but I guess I was wrong. On the back of the can it says it contains a refined petroluem naptha. Now I am right or wrong wood naptha is methanol? But again now on looking closer I did not do my homework right because the can says it is petroleum naptha not wood. Oh by the way I am from Pa.. Thank you, Alan ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
