[Biofuel] Wash Water to Biodiesel Ratio?

2005-06-06 Thread Ken Provost


A question for all you well-washed biodiesel homebrewers...

Regardless of your particular washing methods, when all
is said and done, how much total fresh water have you
used for washing, per liter of fully washed biodiesel?

FWIW, my ratio is about 1.3 water:biodiesel. Is that
high, low, average?

-K


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Re: [Biofuel] Wash Water to Biodiesel Ratio?

2005-06-06 Thread des

Ken Provost wrote:


A question for all you well-washed biodiesel homebrewers...

Regardless of your particular washing methods, when all
is said and done, how much total fresh water have you
used for washing, per liter of fully washed biodiesel?

FWIW, my ratio is about 1.3 water:biodiesel. Is that
high, low, average?

-K

 

In my experience, it seems really low.  I've been adding water with a 
mister, to approximately equal the amount of BD to be washed, then use 
bubble wash.  Drain, repeat.  The number of times I repeat it, 
determined by the clarity of the drained wash water has been at a 
minimum of four, and as many as 7.  Too much NaOH in my formula, perhaps?


Thankfully, I have a good supply of water at my disposal, and making it 
available to the process is dependent on electricity to pump it from my 
own well...  So at least I'm not pouring this much water into the system 
from a metered city-water supply.


Any hints out there that will help me to clear my BD of soaps more 
economically will be very appreciated!


doug swanson

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Re: [Biofuel] Wash Water to Biodiesel Ratio?

2005-06-06 Thread Keith Addison

A question for all you well-washed biodiesel homebrewers...

Regardless of your particular washing methods, when all
is said and done, how much total fresh water have you
used for washing, per liter of fully washed biodiesel?

FWIW, my ratio is about 1.3 water:biodiesel. Is that
high, low, average?

-K


Same with us Ken, about 1:3 water:biodiesel. Three washes, with 1/3rd 
water v/v biodiesel, and the washwater reused in the next batch of 
biodiesel, so each batch of washwater is used three times. Whether 
bubbled or stirred.


We don't produce that much. Tick-over rate is about 120 litres a 
month, that's only 10 litres of washwater per week to dispose of, and 
it's innocuous anyway. Actually it's always more than tick-over, 
sometimes a lot more. We give quite a lot away for promotion, and 
we're right into the barter economy here, it's great for bartering 
(which also helps to promote it). At the moment I'm producing extra 
to run a diesel generator for a five-day summer festival at Kyoto 
University this month. Still, it's never enough for washwater 
disposal to be a problem. If it were we'd use Todd's method of 
applying it to the land.


Regards

Keith


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Re: [Biofuel] Wash Water to Biodiesel Ratio?

2005-06-06 Thread Ken Provost


On Jun 6, 2005, at 9:24 AM, Keith Addison wrote:




Same with us Ken, about 1:3 water:biodiesel. Three washes, with
1/3rd water v/v biodiesel, and the washwater reused in the next
batch of biodiesel, so each batch of washwater is used three times.



I realized after sending the post that my ratio was ambiguously stated,
with a decimal point easily mistaken for a colon. I actually use 1.28 
liters

of wash water per liter of final biodiesel, which is much more than your
usage  (tho apparently less than others' :-)).

The breakdown is 0.16 in a glyc/water wash, 0.80 in a bulk stirred
wash, and 0.32 in a single bubble wash.

If I reused my water as you do (I'll try it!) I would approach your
efficiency. Thanks for the replies, all

-K


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