Re: [Biofuel] question regarding gas fired water heaters?
most people are trying to get a good coating.. Ray J... Anti-Fossil wrote: Can anyone tell me 1) what the lining inside a natural gas fired water heater tank is made of, and 2) are there any known ways of removing it without damaging the tank beneath? I am in the very early stages of helping a neighbor build a waste oil heater. He has a surplus of these tanks, but very little in the way of money. Since I have already built one, and it is still working just fine I agreed to help him build his. All these plans are on temporary hold though because neither of us genius's knew that these tanks were lined. Oh well, plenty of time for more planning and perhaps one more beer. Any info or guidance will be greatly appreciated. AntiFossil Mike Krafka Minnesota USA * If you think you are too small to make a difference try sleeping with a mosquito. Dalai Lama * Experience is the comb that nature gives us when we are bald. Belgian proverb * ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] question regarding gas fired water heaters?
its galsss and beat the heack out of it wiaht something like a piece of rebar, and why woulddd you want to take it out, as its inert, buck, _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee¨ Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] question regarding gas fired water heaters?
its same makeup as old ceramic cookkkpot, glasss over steel, any denting poppps the glass o but why would u buck, _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar ö get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] question regarding gas fired water heaters?
its galsss and beat the heack out of it wiaht something like a piece of rebar, and why woulddd you want to take it out, as its inert, buck, its same makeup as old ceramic cookkkpot, glasss over steel, any denting poppps the glass o but why would u buck, Because it's going to get real hot! Can anyone tell me 1) what the lining inside a natural gas fired water heater tank is made of, and 2) are there any known ways of removing it without damaging the tank beneath? I am in the very early stages of helping a neighbor build a waste oil heater. He has a surplus of these tanks, but very little in the way of money. Since I have already built one, and it is still working just fine I agreed to help him build his. Is that a Mother Earth News heater Mike? This one: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_motherearth/me4.html Mother Earth: Waste Oil Heater If so, which design did you/will you use? - the original, with no power required, or the new-fangled one some of us have been working on, with a forced air supply? It's said the original design does not burn hot enough for safe and clean combustion of modern lube oil, which has much higher burning temps than it did 25 years ago when the heater was designed. It seems though that some people who've built them don't agree with that, they find it works just fine. What do you think? I don't know about this because we've never tried it with waste lube oil. We have one built to the original design, here: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_motherearth/me7.html Journey to Forever's Waste Oil Heater But we've only ever used it with WVO, as we'd intended, and it works fine. We're using it right now. It makes all the difference to keeping this old house warm. It doesn't burn hot enough for clean combustion of the glycerin by-product from making biodiesel though - it does burn it, but it quickly gets gunged up. This is why we've been working on the forced-air design. We should be testing it soon. Best wishes Keith All these plans are on temporary hold though because neither of us genius's knew that these tanks were lined. Oh well, plenty of time for more planning and perhaps one more beer. Any info or guidance will be greatly appreciated. AntiFossil Mike Krafka Minnesota USA * If you think you are too small to make a difference try sleeping with a mosquito. Dalai Lama * Experience is the comb that nature gives us when we are bald. Belgian proverb * ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] question regarding gas fired water heaters?
make it burn hotter and burnn the whole thaing,, if it gets hot enough to melt theee gla it will slump to the bottoam and sit there, buck,. From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Biofuel] question regarding gas fired water heaters? Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:03:08 +0900 Hi Buck, Ray, Mike and all its galsss and beat the heack out of it wiaht something like a piece of rebar, and why woulddd you want to take it out, as its inert, buck, its same makeup as old ceramic cookkkpot, glasss over steel, any denting poppps the glass o but why would u buck, Because it's going to get real hot! Can anyone tell me 1) what the lining inside a natural gas fired water heater tank is made of, and 2) are there any known ways of removing it without damaging the tank beneath? I am in the very early stages of helping a neighbor build a waste oil heater. He has a surplus of these tanks, but very little in the way of money. Since I have already built one, and it is still working just fine I agreed to help him build his. Is that a Mother Earth News heater Mike? This one: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_motherearth/me4.html Mother Earth: Waste Oil Heater If so, which design did you/will you use? - the original, with no power required, or the new-fangled one some of us have been working on, with a forced air supply? It's said the original design does not burn hot enough for safe and clean combustion of modern lube oil, which has much higher burning temps than it did 25 years ago when the heater was designed. It seems though that some people who've built them don't agree with that, they find it works just fine. What do you think? I don't know about this because we've never tried it with waste lube oil. We have one built to the original design, here: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_motherearth/me7.html Journey to Forever's Waste Oil Heater But we've only ever used it with WVO, as we'd intended, and it works fine. We're using it right now. It makes all the difference to keeping this old house warm. It doesn't burn hot enough for clean combustion of the glycerin by-product from making biodiesel though - it does burn it, but it quickly gets gunged up. This is why we've been working on the forced-air design. We should be testing it soon. Best wishes Keith All these plans are on temporary hold though because neither of us genius's knew that these tanks were lined. Oh well, plenty of time for more planning and perhaps one more beer. Any info or guidance will be greatly appreciated. AntiFossil Mike Krafka Minnesota USA * If you think you are too small to make a difference try sleeping with a mosquito. Dalai Lama * Experience is the comb that nature gives us when we are bald. Belgian proverb * ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! hthttp://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] question regarding gas fired water heaters?
Hi Buck, Ray, Mike and all its galsss and beat the heack out of it wiaht something like a piece of rebar, and why woulddd you want to take it out, as its inert, buck, its same makeup as old ceramic cookkkpot, glasss over steel, any denting poppps the glass o but why would u buck, Because it's going to get real hot! I'd say leave the glass there. If it gets hot enough to slump, it will slump and separate, but it shouldn't cause any harm if it does so. -- Martin K ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] question regarding gas fired water heaters?
Can anyone tell me 1) what the lining inside a natural gas fired water heater tank is made of, and 2) are there any known ways of removing it without damaging the tank beneath? I am in the very early stages of helping a neighbor build a waste oil heater. He has a surplus of these tanks, but very little in the way of money. Since I have already built one, and it is still working just fine I agreed to help him build his. All these plans are on temporary hold though because neither of us genius's knew that these tanks were lined. Oh well, plenty of time for more planning and perhaps one more beer. Any info or guidance will be greatly appreciated. AntiFossil Mike Krafka Minnesota USA * If you think you are too small to make a difference try sleeping with a mosquito. Dalai Lama * Experience is the comb that nature gives us when we are bald. Belgian proverb * ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
