Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[Juan Boveda]

And from the wetlands, at the heart of South America, I read you loud 
and clear.

Best

Juan
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Keith Addison escribió:
.. and here in a small town which a friend just described as "the 
middle of nowhere".


Best

Keith



& even in Sunny Australia.

regards Doug


On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 07:01:41 Alex Rodriguez wrote:

 Got your message down in Mexico.
 Thanks


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 30, 2012, at 6:55, "Chip Mefford"  wrote:
 > Okay list;
 >
 > We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list.
 >
 > I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the
 > new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet.
 >
 > Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than
 > @sustainability.org) isn't filtering into the archive as of yet. 
So, none

 > of this chatter is
 > being archived as of yet. Which is fine.
 >
 > I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show 
all the

 > email except a small handfull being delivered promptly.
 >
 > And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never 
topped 20mph.
 > So we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being 
measured in
 > feet, and is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers 
this

 > week. But things are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood.
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[Lauretta Ayers]

Ok from California

>>> "Michael AZ Cox"  10/31/2012 1:37 PM >>>
Ok from sunny Arizona

-Original Message- 
From: Chip Mefford
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 5:54 AM
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org 
Subject: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

Okay list;

We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list.

I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the
new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet.

Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than 
@sustainability.org) isn't
filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none of this chatter is
being archived as of yet. Which is fine.

I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
email except a small handfull being delivered promptly.

And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never topped 20mph. So
we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being measured in feet, 
and
is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers this week. But things
are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood.
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[Michael AZ Cox]

Ok from sunny Arizona

-Original Message- 
From: Chip Mefford

Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 5:54 AM
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
Subject: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

Okay list;

We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list.

I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the
new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet.

Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than 
@sustainability.org) isn't

filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none of this chatter is
being archived as of yet. Which is fine.

I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
email except a small handfull being delivered promptly.

And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never topped 20mph. So
we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being measured in feet, 
and

is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers this week. But things
are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood.
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[Keith Addison]

.. and here in a small town which a friend just described as "the 
middle of nowhere".


Best

Keith



& even in Sunny Australia.

regards Doug


On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 07:01:41 Alex Rodriguez wrote:

 Got your message down in Mexico.
 Thanks


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 30, 2012, at 6:55, "Chip Mefford"  wrote:
 > Okay list;
 >
 > We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list.
 >
 > I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the
 > new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet.
 >
 > Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than
 > @sustainability.org) isn't filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none
 > of this chatter is
 > being archived as of yet. Which is fine.
 >
 > I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
 > email except a small handfull being delivered promptly.
 >
 > And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never topped 20mph.
 > So we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being measured in
 > feet, and is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers this
 > week. But things are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood.
 > ___
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[Doug]

& even in Sunny Australia. 

regards Doug


On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 07:01:41 Alex Rodriguez wrote:
> Got your message down in Mexico.
> Thanks
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 30, 2012, at 6:55, "Chip Mefford"  wrote:
> > Okay list;
> > 
> > We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list.
> > 
> > I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the
> > new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet.
> > 
> > Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than
> > @sustainability.org) isn't filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none
> > of this chatter is
> > being archived as of yet. Which is fine.
> > 
> > I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
> > email except a small handfull being delivered promptly.
> > 
> > And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never topped 20mph.
> > So we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being measured in
> > feet, and is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers this
> > week. But things are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood.
> > ___
> > Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list
> > Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
> > http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[Dawie Coetzee]

Working: all fine    -D





>
> From: Dawie Coetzee 
>To: "sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org" 
> 
>Sent: Wednesday, 31 October 2012, 8:04
>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list
> 
>A reply to this came through to me last night. There seems to be a delay of 
>several hours. -D
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> From: Chip Mefford 
>>To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org 
>>Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012, 14:54
>>Subject: [Biofuel] Testing the new list
>> 
>>Okay list;
>>
>>We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list. 
>>
>>I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the 
>>new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet. 
>>
>>Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than 
>>@sustainability.org) isn't
>>filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none of this chatter is 
>>being archived as of yet. Which is fine. 
>>
>>I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
>>email except a small handfull being delivered promptly. 
>>
>>And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never topped 20mph. So
>>we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being measured in feet, 
>>and
>>is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers this week. But things
>>are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood. 
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[Dawie Coetzee]

A reply to this came through to me last night. There seems to be a delay of 
several hours. -D





>
> From: Chip Mefford 
>To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org 
>Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012, 14:54
>Subject: [Biofuel] Testing the new list
> 
>Okay list;
>
>We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list. 
>
>I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the 
>new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet. 
>
>Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than 
>@sustainability.org) isn't
>filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none of this chatter is 
>being archived as of yet. Which is fine. 
>
>I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
>email except a small handfull being delivered promptly. 
>
>And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never topped 20mph. So
>we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being measured in feet, and
>is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers this week. But things
>are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood. 
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[Izak Venter]

List is working
Thank you.

-Original Message-
From: sustainablelorgbiofuel-boun...@lists.sustainablelists.org
[mailto:sustainablelorgbiofuel-boun...@lists.sustainablelists.org] On Behalf
Of Chip Mefford
Sent: 30 October 2012 02:55 PM
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
Subject: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

Okay list;

We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list. 

I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the 
new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet. 

Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than
@sustainability.org) isn't
filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none of this chatter is 
being archived as of yet. Which is fine. 

I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
email except a small handfull being delivered promptly. 

And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never topped 20mph. So
we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being measured in feet,
and
is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers this week. But things
are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood. 
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[Chandan Haldar]

Hear you loud and clear.  In India.

On Tuesday 30 October 2012 06:24 PM, Chip Mefford wrote:

I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
email except a small handfull being delivered promptly.

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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[Carlos McLean]

Received in Colombia

Sent from my iPad

On 30/10/2012, at 7:54, Chip Mefford  wrote:

> Okay list;
> 
> We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list. 
> 
> I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the 
> new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet. 
> 
> Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than 
> @sustainability.org) isn't
> filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none of this chatter is 
> being archived as of yet. Which is fine. 
> 
> I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
> email except a small handfull being delivered promptly. 
> 
> And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never topped 20mph. So
> we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being measured in feet, 
> and
> is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers this week. But things
> are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood. 
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[Richard Tim Arthurs]

To All:

I posted a ad for Sale of my Passat TDI that was retrofitted at
Greasecar.com for veggie oil.  It's a 2005 Passat "Earth Day Car" shown at
the U. S. State Dept in 2006.  I am asking $10K for it.  The car has
150,000 miles on it.  Virtually new!  Would appreciate you posting the
notice with the sustainable group.

tim Arthurs

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 5:25 PM, John Chase  wrote:

> Recieved
>
> --**
> From: "Lauretta Ayers" 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 4:17 PM
> To: 
> 
> >
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list
>
>  Got it.
>>
>>  Jo  10/30/2012 9:37 AM >>>
>>>>>
>>>> Received
>>
>> Jo Simoes
>> 619-306-5966
>>
>>
>> On Oct 30, 2012, at 5:54 AM, Chip Mefford  wrote:
>>
>>  Okay list;
>>>
>>> We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list.
>>>
>>> I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the
>>> new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet.
>>>
>>> Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than @
>>> sustainability.org) isn't
>>> filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none of this chatter is
>>> being archived as of yet. Which is fine.
>>>
>>> I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
>>> email except a small handfull being delivered promptly.
>>>
>>> And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never topped
>>> 20mph. So
>>> we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being measured in
>>> feet, and
>>> is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers this week. But
>>> things
>>> are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood.
>>> __**_
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[Tony]

Gidday from Toodyay, Western Australia,
you've also made it this far

a radiated Tony





-Original Message-
From: Chip Mefford 
Sender: sustainablelorgbiofuel-boun...@lists.sustainablelists.org
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 05:54:56
To: 
Reply-To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
Subject: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

Okay list;

We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list.

I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the
new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet.

Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than 
@sustainability.org) isn't

filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none of this chatter is
being archived as of yet. Which is fine.

I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
email except a small handfull being delivered promptly.

And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never topped 20mph. So
we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being measured 
in feet, and

is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers this week. But things
are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood.
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[Fred Enga, Astechman]

Got it fine thanks

Fred

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Of Lauretta Ayers
Sent: October-30-12 1:18 PM
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

Got it.

>>> Jo  10/30/2012 9:37 AM >>>
Received

Jo Simoes
619-306-5966


On Oct 30, 2012, at 5:54 AM, Chip Mefford  wrote:

> Okay list;
> 
> We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list. 
> 
> I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the new 
> list not fully propagating across everything as of yet.
> 
> Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than 
> @sustainability.org) isn't filtering into the archive as of yet. So, 
> none of this chatter is being archived as of yet. Which is fine.
> 
> I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the 
> email except a small handfull being delivered promptly.
> 
> And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never topped 
> 20mph. So we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being 
> measured in feet, and is still pounding down. Good be some happy 
> telemarkers this week. But things are going to be messed up, and There
Will Be Flood.
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[Eric Schaetzle]

well received in Fairbanks, Alaska

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 1:25 PM, John Chase  wrote:

> Recieved
>
> --**
> From: "Lauretta Ayers" 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 4:17 PM
> To: 
> 
> >
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list
>
>  Got it.
>>
>>  Jo  10/30/2012 9:37 AM >>>
>>>>>
>>>> Received
>>
>> Jo Simoes
>> 619-306-5966
>>
>>
>> On Oct 30, 2012, at 5:54 AM, Chip Mefford  wrote:
>>
>>  Okay list;
>>>
>>> We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list.
>>>
>>> I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the
>>> new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet.
>>>
>>> Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than @
>>> sustainability.org) isn't
>>> filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none of this chatter is
>>> being archived as of yet. Which is fine.
>>>
>>> I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
>>> email except a small handfull being delivered promptly.
>>>
>>> And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never topped
>>> 20mph. So
>>> we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being measured in
>>> feet, and
>>> is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers this week. But
>>> things
>>> are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood.
>>> __**_
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[Vin Lava]

Working here in the Philippines.

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Ivan Menchero wrote:

> working
>
> From: david
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:14 AM
> To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list
>
> Testing 123...
>
>   Tue Oct 30 2012 2:11:43 pm CET CET from "Dawie Coetzee" <
> dawie_coet...@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list
>   Let's see: testing ... testing ...-D
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: Chip Mefford 
> To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012, 14:54
> Subject: [Biofuel] Testing the new list
>
>
> Okay list;
>
> We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list.
>
> I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the
> new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet.
>
> Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than @
> sustainability.org) isn't
> filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none of this chatter is
> being archived as of yet. Which is fine.
>
> I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
> email except a small handfull being delivered promptly.
>
> And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never topped
> 20mph. So
> we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being measured in
> feet, and
> is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers this week. But
> things
> are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood.
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[Ivan Menchero]

working

From: david 
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:14 AM
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org 
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

Testing 123...

  Tue Oct 30 2012 2:11:43 pm CET CET from "Dawie Coetzee" 
 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list
  Let's see: testing ... testing ...-D






From: Chip Mefford 
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012, 14:54
Subject: [Biofuel] Testing the new list


Okay list;

We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list. 

I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the 
new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet. 

Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than 
@sustainability.org) isn't
filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none of this chatter is 
being archived as of yet. Which is fine. 

I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
email except a small handfull being delivered promptly. 

And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never topped 20mph. So
we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being measured in feet, 
and
is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers this week. But things
are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood. 
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[Bruno M.]

also well received in Belgium

;-)
Bruno M.

Op 30-10-2012 14:14, Agriokoniklos schreef:

Got mail,thanx.
greece.

On 30/10/2012 03:11 ??, Dawie Coetzee wrote:

Let's see: testing ... testing ...-D


*From:* Chip Mefford 
*To:* sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
*Sent:* Tuesday, 30 October 2012, 14:54
*Subject:* [Biofuel] Testing the new list

Okay list;

We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list.

I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the
new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet.

Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather
than @sustainability.org) isn't
filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none of this chatter is
being archived as of yet. Which is fine.

I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show
all the
email except a small handfull being delivered promptly.

And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never
topped 20mph. So
we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being
measured in feet, and
is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers this week.
But things
are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood.
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

['bmolloy']

Receiving you loud and clear.

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[mailto:sustainablelorgbiofuel-boun...@lists.sustainablelists.org] On Behalf
Of Chip Mefford
Sent: Wednesday, 31 October 2012 1:55 a.m.
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
Subject: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

Okay list;

We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list. 

I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the new list
not fully propagating across everything as of yet. 

Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than
@sustainability.org) isn't filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none of
this chatter is being archived as of yet. Which is fine. 

I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the email
except a small handfull being delivered promptly. 

And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never topped 20mph. So
we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being measured in feet,
and is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers this week. But
things are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood. 
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[John Chase]

Recieved

--
From: "Lauretta Ayers" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 4:17 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list


Got it.


Jo  10/30/2012 9:37 AM >>>

Received

Jo Simoes
619-306-5966


On Oct 30, 2012, at 5:54 AM, Chip Mefford  wrote:


Okay list;

We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list.

I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the
new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet.

Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than 
@sustainability.org) isn't

filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none of this chatter is
being archived as of yet. Which is fine.

I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
email except a small handfull being delivered promptly.

And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never topped 20mph. 
So
we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being measured in 
feet, and
is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers this week. But 
things

are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood.
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[Lauretta Ayers]

Got it.

>>> Jo  10/30/2012 9:37 AM >>>
Received

Jo Simoes
619-306-5966


On Oct 30, 2012, at 5:54 AM, Chip Mefford  wrote:

> Okay list;
> 
> We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list. 
> 
> I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the 
> new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet. 
> 
> Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than 
> @sustainability.org) isn't
> filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none of this chatter is 
> being archived as of yet. Which is fine. 
> 
> I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
> email except a small handfull being delivered promptly. 
> 
> And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never topped 20mph. So
> we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being measured in feet, 
> and
> is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers this week. But things
> are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood. 
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[Sadhbh MacMahon]

Got your message in canada.Sadhbh MacMahon.

> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 05:54:56 -0700
> From: c...@well.com
> To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
> Subject: [Biofuel] Testing the new list
> 
> Okay list;
> 
> We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list. 
> 
> I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the 
> new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet. 
> 
> Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than 
> @sustainability.org) isn't
> filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none of this chatter is 
> being archived as of yet. Which is fine. 
> 
> I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
> email except a small handfull being delivered promptly. 
> 
> And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never topped 20mph. So
> we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being measured in feet, 
> and
> is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers this week. But things
> are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood. 
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[Jo]

Received

Jo Simoes
619-306-5966


On Oct 30, 2012, at 5:54 AM, Chip Mefford  wrote:

> Okay list;
> 
> We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list. 
> 
> I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the 
> new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet. 
> 
> Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than 
> @sustainability.org) isn't
> filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none of this chatter is 
> being archived as of yet. Which is fine. 
> 
> I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
> email except a small handfull being delivered promptly. 
> 
> And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never topped 20mph. So
> we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being measured in feet, 
> and
> is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers this week. But things
> are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood. 
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[Kirk McLoren]

working here

 
To love God in the most practical way is to love our fellow beings.




 From: Dave Hajoglou 
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org 
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list
 

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Chip Mefford  wrote:

Okay list;
>
>We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list.
>

Keith who? lol.
 
I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
>email except a small handfull being delivered promptly.
>
>

I will report that just after I got the notice I tried to respond and it 
bounced.  The reply I sent to your first obviously went through. 
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[Doug Turner]

Message received in Ontario, Canada.
Doug

-> -Original Message-
-> From: sustainablelorgbiofuel-boun...@lists.sustainablelists.org
-> [mailto:sustainablelorgbiofuel-
-> boun...@lists.sustainablelists.org] On Behalf Of Chip Mefford
-> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:55 AM
-> To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
-> Subject: [Biofuel] Testing the new list
->... 
-> I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show
-> all the email except a small handfull being delivered promptly.
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[Edward Arnulfo Cañon Poveda]

Testing ok!!!




Edward Cañon ING. SISTEMAS U.D.
I 

 




Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 08:50:49 -0600
From: dhajog...@gmail.com
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Chip Mefford  wrote:


Okay list;

We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list.



Keith who? lol.
 
I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
email except a small handfull being delivered promptly.




I will report that just after I got the notice I tried to respond and it 
bounced.  The reply I sent to your first obviously went through. 
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[Dave Hajoglou]

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Chip Mefford  wrote:

> Okay list;
>
> We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list.
>

Keith who? lol.


> I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
> email except a small handfull being delivered promptly.
>
>
I will report that just after I got the notice I tried to respond and it
bounced.  The reply I sent to your first obviously went through.
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[Dawie Coetzee]

Tried to reply a moment ago; haven't received my mail back ...   -D




>
> From: Jason Mier 
>To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org 
>Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012, 15:58
>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list
> 
>
> 
>Iowa, present!
>
>
>> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 05:54:56 -0700
>> From: c...@well.com
>> To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
>> Subject: [Biofuel] Testing the new list
>> 
>> Okay list;
>> 
>> We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list. 
>> 
>> I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the 
>> new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet. 
>> 
>> Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than 
>> @sustainability.org) isn't
>> filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none of this chatter is 
>> being archived as of yet. Which is fine. 
>> 
>> I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
>> email except a small handfull being delivered promptly. 
>> 
>> And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never topped 20mph. So
>> we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being measured in feet, 
>> and
>> is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers this week. But things
>> are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood. 
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[Jason Mier]

Iowa, present!

> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 05:54:56 -0700
> From: c...@well.com
> To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
> Subject: [Biofuel] Testing the new list
> 
> Okay list;
> 
> We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list. 
> 
> I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the 
> new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet. 
> 
> Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than 
> @sustainability.org) isn't
> filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none of this chatter is 
> being archived as of yet. Which is fine. 
> 
> I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
> email except a small handfull being delivered promptly. 
> 
> And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never topped 20mph. So
> we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being measured in feet, 
> and
> is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers this week. But things
> are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood. 
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

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Received

Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.
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-Original Message-
From: Chip Mefford 
Sender: sustainablelorgbiofuel-boun...@lists.sustainablelists.org
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 05:54:56 
To: 
Reply-To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
Subject: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

Okay list;

We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list. 

I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the 
new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet. 

Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than 
@sustainability.org) isn't
filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none of this chatter is 
being archived as of yet. Which is fine. 

I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
email except a small handfull being delivered promptly. 

And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never topped 20mph. So
we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being measured in feet, and
is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers this week. But things
are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood. 
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[mark ollier]

To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 14:14:53 +0100
From: da...@penfold.fr
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list



Testing 123...

Tue Oct 30 2012 2:11:43 pm CET CET from "Dawie Coetzee" 
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

Let's see: testing ... testing ...-D

 





From: Chip Mefford 
 To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012, 14:54
 Subject: [Biofuel] Testing the new list
 

Okay list;

We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list. 

I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the 
new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet. 

Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than 
@sustainability.org) isn't
filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none of this chatter is 
being archived as of yet. Which is fine. 

I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
email except a small handfull being delivered promptly. 

And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never topped 20mph. So
we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being measured in feet, and
is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers this week. But things
are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood. 
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[david]

Testing 123...  
>  Tue Oct 30 2012 2:11:43 pm CET CET from "Dawie Coetzee"
>  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list
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>Let's see: testing ... testing     -D
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[Agriokoniklos]

Got mail,thanx.
greece.

On 30/10/2012 03:11 ??, Dawie Coetzee wrote:

Let's see: testing ... testing ...-D


*From:* Chip Mefford 
*To:* sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
*Sent:* Tuesday, 30 October 2012, 14:54
*Subject:* [Biofuel] Testing the new list

Okay list;

We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list.

I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the
new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet.

Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather
than @sustainability.org) isn't
filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none of this chatter is
being archived as of yet. Which is fine.

I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
email except a small handfull being delivered promptly.

And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never topped
20mph. So
we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being measured
in feet, and
is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers this week.
But things
are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood.
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[Dawie Coetzee]

Let's see: testing ... testing ...    -D





>
> From: Chip Mefford 
>To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org 
>Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012, 14:54
>Subject: [Biofuel] Testing the new list
> 
>Okay list;
>
>We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list. 
>
>I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the 
>new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet. 
>
>Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than 
>@sustainability.org) isn't
>filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none of this chatter is 
>being archived as of yet. Which is fine. 
>
>I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
>email except a small handfull being delivered promptly. 
>
>And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never topped 20mph. So
>we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being measured in feet, and
>is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers this week. But things
>are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood. 
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[José María Montenegro]

Everything ok from Spain

2012/10/30 Alex Rodriguez 

> Got your message down in Mexico.
> Thanks
>
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Oct 30, 2012, at 6:55, "Chip Mefford"  wrote:
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> > Okay list;
> >
> > We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list.
> >
> > I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the
> > new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet.
> >
> > Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than @
> sustainability.org) isn't
> > filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none of this chatter is
> > being archived as of yet. Which is fine.
> >
> > I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
> > email except a small handfull being delivered promptly.
> >
> > And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never topped
> 20mph. So
> > we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being measured in
> feet, and
> > is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers this week. But
> things
> > are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood.
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[robert and benita rabello]

On 10/30/2012 5:54 AM, Chip Mefford wrote:

Okay list;

We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list.

I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the
new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet.

Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than 
@sustainability.org) isn't
filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none of this chatter is
being archived as of yet. Which is fine.

I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
email except a small handfull being delivered promptly.


It seems to be working fine, Chip!  I'm glad to hear you're safe.

 
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[Alex Rodriguez]

Got your message down in Mexico.
Thanks


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 30, 2012, at 6:55, "Chip Mefford"  wrote:

> Okay list;
> 
> We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list. 
> 
> I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the 
> new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet. 
> 
> Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than 
> @sustainability.org) isn't
> filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none of this chatter is 
> being archived as of yet. Which is fine. 
> 
> I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
> email except a small handfull being delivered promptly. 
> 
> And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never topped 20mph. So
> we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being measured in feet, 
> and
> is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers this week. But things
> are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood. 
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

[fargsagogo]

Greetings from Guam. I got this message.
Thanx.
Les
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Subject: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

Okay list;

We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list. 

I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the 
new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet. 

Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than 
@sustainability.org) isn't
filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none of this chatter is 
being archived as of yet. Which is fine. 

I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
email except a small handfull being delivered promptly. 

And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never topped 20mph. So
we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being measured in feet, and
is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers this week. But things
are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood. 
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[Biofuel] Testing the new list

[Chip Mefford]

Okay list;

We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list. 

I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the 
new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet. 

Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than 
@sustainability.org) isn't
filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none of this chatter is 
being archived as of yet. Which is fine. 

I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
email except a small handfull being delivered promptly. 

And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never topped 20mph. So
we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being measured in feet, and
is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers this week. But things
are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood. 
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing H2O in Methanol

[JJJN]

Joe Street wrote:

> Hi Jim;
>
> Ok  I made up a graph by adding water one ml at a time to 90 ml of 
> pure methanol.  This was done at 23 degrees C which is the current 
> temperature in my work area.  The hydrometers are calibrated for 15 
> degrees so this is more practical for my purposes.  As far as Bob's 
> comment on what glycerin in the recovered methanol will do to the 
> specific gravity, I cannot guess but glycerin has a pretty high 
> boiling point and my recovered methanol looks water clear so there is 
> not much glycerin in there I think.  I am going to assume it is 
> negligible.  Primarily I am doing this just to determine roughly how 
> much zeolite I need to dry the methanol. I will err on the 
> conservative side with this. It looks like my recovered methanol has 
> less than 10 % water (worst case) so a litre of methanol should have 
> less than 100 grams of water in it.  If zeolite can adsorb 10% of it's 
> weight in water then 1Kg of zeolite per litre of methanol should be 
> sufficient. Here is the chart. Since I typically recover less than 3 
> litres of methanol at a time I'll look for a molecular seive which 
> holds at least 3 Kg of zeolite.  BTW I know it was mentioned before 
> and is in the archives but for convenience the type of seives to use 
> for this is 3A. Best place for this is in the pipe upstream of the 
> condenser.  I'll get a trap with a built in heater so I can use my 
> vacuum system to regenerate the seives.  I'll then see how much water 
> comes out of the zeolite and collects in the trap.  I'll be interested 
> to see if the numbers match up.

So will I keep me posted Joe.

Jim

>
> Cheers
> Joe
> Graph of methanol_water specific gravity.
>
>
> JJJN wrote:
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>>Does any one know of a good test to determine the amount of water in 
>>methanol?
>>
>>Joe were you working on something like this?
>>
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing H2O in Methanol

[Joe Street]

Hi Jim;

Ok  I made up a graph by adding water one ml at a time to 90 ml of pure
methanol.  This was done at 23 degrees C which is the current
temperature in my work area.  The hydrometers are calibrated for 15
degrees so this is more practical for my purposes.  As far as Bob's
comment on what glycerin in the recovered methanol will do to the
specific gravity, I cannot guess but glycerin has a pretty high boiling
point and my recovered methanol looks water clear so there is not much
glycerin in there I think.  I am going to assume it is negligible. 
Primarily I am doing this just to determine roughly how much zeolite I
need to dry the methanol. I will err on the conservative side with
this. It looks like my recovered methanol has less than 10 % water
(worst case) so a litre of methanol should have less than 100 grams of
water in it.  If zeolite can adsorb 10% of it's weight in water then
1Kg of zeolite per litre of methanol should be sufficient. Here is the
chart. Since I typically recover less than 3 litres of methanol at a
time I'll look for a molecular seive which holds at least 3 Kg of
zeolite.  BTW I know it was
mentioned before and is in the archives but for convenience the type of
seives to use for this is 3A. Best place for this is in the pipe
upstream of the condenser.  I'll get a trap with a built in heater so I
can use my vacuum system to regenerate the seives.  I'll then see how
much water comes out of the zeolite and collects in the trap.  I'll be
interested to see if the numbers match up.

Cheers
Joe



JJJN wrote:

  Does any one know of a good test to determine the amount of water in 
methanol?

Joe were you working on something like this?

Jim

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Re: [Biofuel] Testing H2O in Methanol

[bob allen]

a confounding variable in determining water in methanol (recovered 
from the glycerin cocktail)

depending on the distillation set up besides water and methanol you 
will also get glycerin- depending on the temperature and number of 
theoretical plates in your still.  How a small amount of glycerin will 
impact the density of the possibly ternary mixture, I don't know-



Joe Street wrote:
> Hi Jim;
> 
> Yes I got a couple of hydrometers 0.79 to 0.90 range and rather than try 
> to find calibration tables for temperature etc I decided the thing to do 
> is take some fresh pure methanol and measure it's SG at room temperature 
> (about 20 degrees C in my place) and then add some measured amounts of 
> room temperature water and record the SG values.  I haven't done it yet 
> but will make a post when I do.  I am interested in determining how much 
> water is in my recovered methanol, so I can gauge roughly how much 
> zeolite I need to dry the stuff.  I expect to be somewhere in the range 
> of 10% water or so hence the hydrometer range I bought works for the 
> lower end water content.  I measued some recovered methanol I got from 
> glycerin and it was 0.813 at RT and I measured another bunch that I cut 
> off earlier in the process and it measured 0.798.  I'll give the more 
> meaningful numbers soon.
> 
> Joe
> 
> JJJN wrote:
> 
>> Does any one know of a good test to determine the amount of water in 
>> methanol?
>>
>> Joe were you working on something like this?
>>
>> Jim
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing H2O in Methanol

[Joe Street]

Hi Jim;

Yes I got a couple of hydrometers 0.79 to 0.90 range and rather than try 
to find calibration tables for temperature etc I decided the thing to do 
is take some fresh pure methanol and measure it's SG at room temperature 
(about 20 degrees C in my place) and then add some measured amounts of 
room temperature water and record the SG values.  I haven't done it yet 
but will make a post when I do.  I am interested in determining how much 
water is in my recovered methanol, so I can gauge roughly how much 
zeolite I need to dry the stuff.  I expect to be somewhere in the range 
of 10% water or so hence the hydrometer range I bought works for the 
lower end water content.  I measued some recovered methanol I got from 
glycerin and it was 0.813 at RT and I measured another bunch that I cut 
off earlier in the process and it measured 0.798.  I'll give the more 
meaningful numbers soon.

Joe

JJJN wrote:

>Does any one know of a good test to determine the amount of water in 
>methanol?
>
>Joe were you working on something like this?
>
>Jim
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing H2O in Methanol

[bob allen]

For liquids heavier than water:

0 °Bé = distance the hydrometer sinks in pure water

15 °Bé = distance the hydrometer sinks in a solution that is 15% 
sodium chloride (salt, NaCl) by mass.

To convert from °Bé to specific gravity at 60 degrees Fahrenheit:

specific gravity = 145/(145 - °Bé)


For liquids lighter than water:

0 °Bé = distance the hydrometer sinks in a solution that is 10% sodium 
chloride (salt, NaCl) by mass

10 °Bé = distance the hydrometer sinks in pure water.

To convert from °Bé to specific gravity at 60 degrees Fahrenheit:

specific gravity = 140/(130 + °Bé)


(whew)


Ken Provost wrote:
> On Sep 4, 2006, at 7:19 PM, JJJN wrote:
> 
>> Would you have some baseline readings? and can you tell 85% from 95%
>> with one of these?
> 
> 
> They typically read off in percentage by volume of alcohol, as well as
> proof and Baumé (whatever that is :-)). You can easily tell 98% from  
> 99%.
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing H2O in Methanol

[Ken Provost]

On Sep 4, 2006, at 7:19 PM, JJJN wrote:

> Would you have some baseline readings? and can you tell 85% from 95%
> with one of these?


They typically read off in percentage by volume of alcohol, as well as
proof and Baumé (whatever that is :-)). You can easily tell 98% from  
99%.

-K
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing H2O in Methanol

[JJJN]

Would you have some baseline readings? and can you tell 85% from 95% 
with one of these?

Jim

Ken Provost wrote:

>On Sep 3, 2006, at 9:48 PM, JJJN wrote:
>
>
>  
>
>>Does any one know of a good test to determine the amount of water in
>>methanol?
>>
>>
>
>
>The hydrometers you can get at a homebrew shop (or on the web)
>work fine for methanol -- the densities of methanol and ethanol are
>practically the same.
>
>-K
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing H2O in Methanol

[Ken Provost]

On Sep 3, 2006, at 9:48 PM, JJJN wrote:


> Does any one know of a good test to determine the amount of water in
> methanol?


The hydrometers you can get at a homebrew shop (or on the web)
work fine for methanol -- the densities of methanol and ethanol are
practically the same.

-K

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[Biofuel] Testing H2O in Methanol

[JJJN]

Does any one know of a good test to determine the amount of water in 
methanol?

Joe were you working on something like this?

Jim

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Re: [Biofuel] Testing for phosphorus content

[Keith Addison]

Hello Jim

>I think they will work as they would with soil.  I used one this Spring,
>You add the Soil to one line (Oil in this case) then water to the next
>Line Shake and dip the strip just like ph Strips. the water is to
>dissolve the phosphorus from the soil for testing.

That's the bit I doubt, whether it'll dissolve phosphorus out of WVO 
as readily.

>The trouble comes if you want to get down to how much is present accurately.
>
>Are you trying to establish ballpark levels or are you looking to find
>out mg/L?

Anything would be useful, including whether it's there at all or not. 
But the more accurate the better, just as long as it's still doable.

>If you want real accurate results I think you can use titration with
>reagents for phosphorus.  I will have to do some checking on this though.

That's interesting Jim, I'd be grateful if you would do some more 
checking when you have the time.

Thanks

Keith


>Jim
>
>Joe Street wrote:
>
> >There are soil test kits available.  I don't know if they would work for
> >oil though but I think they are very low cost.
> >
> >Joe
> >
> >Keith Addison wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Hi all
> >>
> >>Does anyone know of a backyard-level test for phosphorus content in WVO?
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing for phosphorus content

[JJJN]

I think they will work as they would with soil.  I used one this Spring, 
You add the Soil to one line (Oil in this case) then water to the next 
Line Shake and dip the strip just like ph Strips. the water is to 
dissolve the phosphorus from the soil for testing.

The trouble comes if you want to get down to how much is present accurately.

Are you trying to establish ballpark levels or are you looking to find 
out mg/L?

If you want real accurate results I think you can use titration with 
reagents for phosphorus.  I will have to do some checking on this though.

Jim

Joe Street wrote:

>There are soil test kits available.  I don't know if they would work for 
>oil though but I think they are very low cost.
>
>Joe
>
>Keith Addison wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi all
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>>Does anyone know of a backyard-level test for phosphorus content in WVO?
>>
>>Thanks
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>>Best
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing for phosphorus content

[Keith Addison]

Hello Joe

>There are soil test kits available.  I don't know if they would work for
>oil though but I think they are very low cost.
>
>Joe

Didn't think of that, and I'm working with soil all the time. I never 
test it though (it tests itself). Maybe it'll work, I'll give it a 
try. Thanks!

Regards

Keith



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> >
> >Thanks
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing for phosphorus content

[Joe Street]

There are soil test kits available.  I don't know if they would work for 
oil though but I think they are very low cost.

Joe

Keith Addison wrote:

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>Thanks
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[Biofuel] Testing for phosphorus content

[Keith Addison]

Hi all

Does anyone know of a backyard-level test for phosphorus content in WVO?

Thanks

Best

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Re: [Biofuel] Testing for Purity of KOH

[Appal Energy]

Rob,

 > Is this a good way to determine the purity?

It's a good way to determine a baseline for your 50# bag. For all 
practical intents and purposes, that's what you want.

See  http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#stockmeth

and

See  http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#poor

before you begin for some ideas that could help you zero things in a bit.

Todd Swearingen


>This weekend I will be attempting to use KOH instead of Lye. I got a deal on
>a 50 lb bag of KOH but I don't know what the purity is. I'm not sure how to
>titrate to determine the purity so here is what I am going to try.
>
>I'll make 3 batches, Batch 1 I will assume 99% pure and use 4.9 grams, batch
>2 I will assume 92% pure and use 5.3 grams and batch 3 I will assume 85%
>purity and use 5.8 grams. I will be using new oil and see which batch turns
>out good and passes the shake test.
>  Is this a good way to determine the purity?
>
>Any help is appreciated here.
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[Biofuel] Testing for Purity of KOH

[Rob Rogers]

This weekend I will be attempting to use KOH instead of Lye. I got a deal on
a 50 lb bag of KOH but I don't know what the purity is. I'm not sure how to
titrate to determine the purity so here is what I am going to try.

I'll make 3 batches, Batch 1 I will assume 99% pure and use 4.9 grams, batch
2 I will assume 92% pure and use 5.3 grams and batch 3 I will assume 85%
purity and use 5.8 grams. I will be using new oil and see which batch turns
out good and passes the shake test.
  Is this a good way to determine the purity?

Any help is appreciated here.



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Re: [Biofuel] Testing Biodiesel

[bob allen]

Howdy, What you can do analytically depends on your equipment.  HPLC, GC, GC/MS 
?, any of these will 
allow  a excellent characterization of the product:  the fatty acid esters can 
be identified, and 
any trace impurities such as methanol, mono and diglycerides, and unreacted 
lipids can all be 
quantified. heats of combustion, good for comparing to fossil diesel, can be 
obtained via bomb 
calorimetry.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> 
> This year we are planning on opening a course on biodiesel in our
> university. It will be a practical project course where the second year
> students will learn about making biodiesel.
> 
> But it being an academic course and all, it should differentiate from just
> a cooking recepie (which works perfectly fine). I would like to do some
> extensive quality control of the BD. What techniques can be used? What has
> to be tested an for which values. We have a very well equipped lab.
> 
> Any advice is more than welcome.
> 
> The project has potential to evolve in to a local biodiesel quality
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing Biodiesel

[Keith Addison]

Hello Teoman

>Hello all,
>
>This year we are planning on opening a course on biodiesel in our
>university. It will be a practical project course where the second year
>students will learn about making biodiesel.
>
>But it being an academic course and all, it should differentiate from just
>a cooking recepie (which works perfectly fine). I would like to do some
>extensive quality control of the BD. What techniques can be used? What has
>to be tested an for which values. We have a very well equipped lab.
>
>Any advice is more than welcome.
>
>The project has potential to evolve in to a local biodiesel quality
>testing facility later on.
>
>Thank you for your precious time and effort
>
>A. Teoman Naskali

What people keep asking about is affordable thin-film chromatography 
or paper chromatography tests.

Recent message from list member:

>  Can anyone explain me how could I make paper
>chromatography test of the BD(the kind of solutions
>and how to read the results)?

These are homebrewer quality tests:

Quality testing
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_vehicle.html#quality

See also:

"Standards and the homebrewer" on the US ASTM D-6751 standards.
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_ASTM.html

Best wishes

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[Biofuel] Testing Biodiesel

[bioteo]

Hello all,

This year we are planning on opening a course on biodiesel in our
university. It will be a practical project course where the second year
students will learn about making biodiesel.

But it being an academic course and all, it should differentiate from just
a cooking recepie (which works perfectly fine). I would like to do some
extensive quality control of the BD. What techniques can be used? What has
to be tested an for which values. We have a very well equipped lab.

Any advice is more than welcome.

The project has potential to evolve in to a local biodiesel quality
testing facility later on.

Thank you for your precious time and effort

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[Biofuel] Testing Biodiesel

[bioteo]

Hello all,

This year we are planning on opening a course on biodiesel in our
university. It will be a practical project course where the second year
students will learn about making biodiesel.

But it being an academic course and all, it should differentiate from just
a cooking recepie (which works perfectly fine). I would like to do some
extensive quality control of the BD. What techniques can be used? What has
to be tested an for which values. We have a very well equipped lab.

Any advice is more than welcome.

The project has potential to evolve in to a local biodiesel quality
testing facility later on.

Thank you for your precious time and effort

A. Teoman Naskali


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Re: [Biofuel] testing

[oss]

dear martin,

it is ok.

regards
carlos

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Re: [Biofuel] testing

[D.C. M]

-I got it, and keep getting responses from other folks
to you as well. Am I supposed to get all this? Thanks,
D. M.

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RE: [Biofuel] testing

[malcolm maclure]

Got it m8y

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this is a test
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Re: [Biofuel] testing

[Ken]

Received

Thanks

Ken
www.ken.awarenesslife.com 

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Re: [Biofuel] testing

[Wayne Goldsmith]

On Mar 11, 2005, at 12:02 PM, Martin Klingensmith wrote:


this is a test
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Re: [Biofuel] testing

[Wayne Goldsmith]

On Mar 11, 2005, at 12:18 PM, DS SOULES wrote:


got it.
-Dale.


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this is a test
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RE: [Biofuel] testing

[Juan Boveda]

Martin.
Thank you, message is OK, loud and clear.
Juan.
Paraguay
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It worked! Re: [Biofuel] testing

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Re: [Biofuel] testing

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got it. 
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Re: [Biofuel] testing

[Eric Hallberg]

ok


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RE: [biofuel] Testing iodine value? Degumming?

[Arlos]

Mike,
 
  Change your search word to, "Iodine number."
 
Arlos
 
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Subject: [biofuel] Testing iodine value? Degumming?
 
I'm a bit of a newbie on the subject, I tried to search the messages 
for iodine but aparently none in the subject line. 
I have read a good amount and am weighing out a lot of factors before 
playing with this idea.
Could someone give me a link or explain what the iodine value of the 
fuel relates to? I can't recall if this refers to svo or to processed 
fuel. 
Also as far as svo goes how exactly would one go about degumming svo? 
I understand this is one of the major factors that could stick rings 
and cause varnish deposits. If I recall correctly this applies to 
only some sources of oil type.
Thanks for the info, 
mike






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Re: [biofuel] Testing iodine value? Degumming?

[Neoteric Biofuels Inc]

http://koal.cop.fi/iodine.htm
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_yield.html#iodine
http://www.folkecenter.dk/plant-oil/images/RK-standard-UK.gif
http://ss.jircas.affrc.go.jp/engpage/jarq/33-2/Togashi/togashi.html

Edward Beggs
http://www.biofuels.ca



On Sunday, June 6, 2004, at 07:38 PM, mike71ghia wrote:

> I'm a bit of a newbie on the subject, I tried to search the messages
> for iodine but aparently none in the subject line.
> I have read a good amount and am weighing out a lot of factors before
> playing with this idea.
> Could someone give me a link or explain what the iodine value of the
> fuel relates to? I can't recall if this refers to svo or to processed
> fuel.
> Also as far as svo goes how exactly would one go about degumming svo?
> I understand this is one of the major factors that could stick rings
> and cause varnish deposits. If I recall correctly this applies to
> only some sources of oil type.
> Thanks for the info,
> mike
>
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Re: [biofuel] Testing iodine value? Degumming?

[Keith Addison]

Hello Mike, welcome

>I'm a bit of a newbie on the subject, I tried to search the messages
>for iodine but aparently none in the subject line.

I suspect you're using the wrong message archives. DON'T use Yahoo's 
archives! It's useless. It searches 50-60 messages at a time or 
something, which means that it would take about 700 pages to search 
the whole list, Yahoo pages at that, plus the ads.

Use the list's independent archives, linked at the end of every 
message and at the list's homepage at Yahoo:

Biofuels list archives:
http://archive.nnytech.net/

It's a treasure house of information on all aspects of biofuels, 
especially biodiesel - it contains 35,000 messages over the last four 
years, many of them from leaders in the field worldwide. It's 
provided and  maintained by list member Martin Klingensmith, with 
powerful, fast and efficient searching, and no ads.

If you search for "iodine" there, you get this:
http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/?keywords=iodine&time=6months&us 
ertime=2002-12-31

Reading the messages there, if you hit "Click here for more on this 
subject" it'll show you the whole thread in a clickable table at the 
top.

Also:

http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/34769/

http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/34844/

>I have read a good amount and am weighing out a lot of factors before
>playing with this idea.
>Could someone give me a link or explain what the iodine value of the
>fuel relates to? I can't recall if this refers to svo or to processed
>fuel.

Both.

There are several tables detailing iodine values here:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_yield.html
Oil yields and characteristics

See:

Oils and esters characteristics
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_yield.html#oils_esters

Iodine Values explained:

Iodine Values
-- High Iodine Values
-- Talking about the weather
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_yield.html#iodine

Fuel properties of fats and oils
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_yield.html#fuelfats

National standards for biodiesel:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_yield.html#biodstds

>Also as far as svo goes how exactly would one go about degumming svo?

"In certain cases, particularly with oils containing substantial 
amounts of phospholipids (e.g. soybean oil), a primary treatment 
called degumming is performed by adding 2 to 3% water, agitating the 
mixture at 50¼C and removing the hydrated phospholipids by means of 
settling or centrifugation. In the physical refining process, 
degummimg is performed by adding phosphoric acid to ensure 
phospholipid separation instead of water."
http://alfa.ist.utl.pt/~fidel/creac/reac.html
Chemical Reactions of Oil, Fat and Fat Based > 3. Processing of raw 
materials > 3.4. Refining - production, storage and packaging of 
refined oils > a) Settling and Degumming

"B. Degumming
Crude oils having relatively high levels of phosphatides (e.g., 
soybean oil) may be degummed prior to refining to remove the majority 
of those phospholipid compounds. The process generally involves 
treating the crude oil with a limited amount of water to hydrate the 
phosphatides and make them separable by centrifugation. Soybean oil 
is the most common oil to be degummed; the phospholipids are often 
recovered and further processed to yield a variety of lecithin 
products."
http://www.iseo.org/iseo/ffo_6-7.htm#7
Food Fats and Oils
Chapters 6 & 7

Best wishes

Keith



>I understand this is one of the major factors that could stick rings
>and cause varnish deposits. If I recall correctly this applies to
>only some sources of oil type.
>Thanks for the info,
>mike



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[biofuel] Testing iodine value? Degumming?

[mike71ghia]

I'm a bit of a newbie on the subject, I tried to search the messages 
for iodine but aparently none in the subject line. 
I have read a good amount and am weighing out a lot of factors before 
playing with this idea.
Could someone give me a link or explain what the iodine value of the 
fuel relates to? I can't recall if this refers to svo or to processed 
fuel. 
Also as far as svo goes how exactly would one go about degumming svo? 
I understand this is one of the major factors that could stick rings 
and cause varnish deposits. If I recall correctly this applies to 
only some sources of oil type.
Thanks for the info, 
mike






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[biofuel] Testing of Biodiesel

[canros_uk]

Hello

Go here to find a very blantant attempt to stop UK small biodiesel 
production:

http://www.greenergy.com/company/downloads/Submission_2004_Budget.pdf


Box 1. Substandard biodiesel product
Greenergy has serious concerns about the supply of substandard 
biodiesel in
the UK. Greenergy defines substandard biodiesel as any product 
produced
and sold without each production batch being subject to a full 
quality analysis
determined in an ISO quality certified laboratory (the norm for ULSD).
Quality analysis is fundamental to the production of safe, fit for 
purpose
biodiesel. Greenergy considers that any product sold without such 
analysis is
not fit for purpose and therefore substandard because its quality is 
unknown.
This is irrespective of whether that biodiesel would have met pr 
EN14214 if
tested or not.

What can we do to stop these parasites?

Stuart




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[biofuel] Testing for Soap In Unwashed Biodiesel and Glycerol

[girl mark]

Here is an article I just wrote for my zine, trying to make sense of the 
standard US lab method for testing for soap in oils ("I Am Not A Chemist").

  A couple of years ago a bunch of us were looking pretty hard at the 
Leonardo european vocational training website ( 
http://koal2.cop.fi/leonardo/ ) and this titration and other good testing 
info was on there- in German unfortunately. I'd love it if someone who 
speaks German could tell me the the difference between the methods.

  My objective was to write this up for homebrewers. If you can test 
batches of biodiesel conclusively for soap, you can then eliminate one of 
the two major factors when troubleshooting and doing quality 
control.  Yipp!!

I would like some feedback from chemists on whether I got the information 
correct, especially the conversions back and forth from weight to volume 
for unwashed biodiesel versus the number I listed (which is for commercial 
washed biodiesel), and the stock solution/ normality instructions. I want 
to thank Kalib Kersch for explaining the simple concept of normality to me 
and for writing me the formulas for converting from variable strength 
hardware store hydrochloric acid to something that the titration can use.

Please dont' reprint this until we hear if I got it correct or not...


Here it is:

Testing for Soap In Unwashed Biodiesel and Glycerol:

  The standard titration for soap in oil, unwashed biodiesel, or glycerol, 
uses hydrochloric acid solution as a reagent, bromophenol blue as an 
indicator (.4% in water), and acetone or isopropyl alcohol as a solvent. 
Bromophenol blue turns from blue to yellow at an acidic pH (4.5 if I recall 
correctly). This is the point at which all the soap in a sample has been 
neutralized by the hydrochloric acid.

Solvents that work for this are either acetone in water or isopropyl- which 
needs to be absolutely neutral. If it's acidic, you will need to add some 
of your old lye/water solution (which you'll have on hand from your free 
fatty acid titration) until it is neutralized. Do this in the presence of 
the bromophenol blue indicator, and add lye/water solution until it just 
barely turns yellow again.

Otherwise, use acetone and distilled water: make up a solvent of 980 ml of 
acetone and 20 ml of distilled water.

Procedure:
100 ml of the acetone/water solution or isopropyl
.5 ml of the bromophenol blue solution

Neutralize this by titrating to yellow using your lye/water solution that 
you have in your acid value (ie free fatty acid) titration equipment

Add 100 grams of the unwashed biodiesel or 10 grams of the melted glycerol 
that you are trying to determine the soap content of.

Titrate using .01N HCL solution until it reaches the yellow endpoint. This 
is the amount of .01N solution that is needed to neutralize all the soap in 
this sample.

Calculations:
soap in parts per million=
  (ml of .o1N HCL solution)/weight of sample*30.44

residual catalyst in parts per million=
(ml of .01N HCl)/weight of sample*561


You should also do a blank titration and subtract any HCl needed for the 
blank titration from the weight of the HCL needed for the actual soap test 
in your calculations.

To convert from the weight measurements above to volume measurements that 
we use,  use the following: Biodiesel: approx .97 kg/liter (I'm not sure if 
this applies to unwashed though) Glycerol: approx 1.26 kg per liter (not 
sure if this applies to glycerol byproduct). You can always weigh some of 
your product and do the conversion from the results you find

*

'sidebar:'


Using Hardware store 'Muriatic Acid' as your source of hydrochloric acid:

  'Muriatic acid' is HCL, sold in hardware stores for swimming pool 
maintenance and for concrete etching, about $3 a gallon. Muriatic acid 
varies slightly in strength. It is labeled on the bottle with the 
percentage concentration, usually somewhere around 30%.

Here's how to make a .01N concentration of this acid for the titration 
(assuming the label is correct and you've kept the bottle sealed):

1N- 1 mol HCL/liter (ie 1 mole of H+)
1 mol HCL is 36.5 grams

To make 1 liter of the .01N HCL solution that we need, we want to have .01 
moles of HCL in 1 liter of solution
.01 moles of HCL is .365 grams (.01mol/L) (1L)

Find the percentage concentration on the bottle (it'll be close to 30%).

We want to know how much volume in milliliters to use of this 
(approximately 30g per 100 ml) hardware store acid to make up .365 grams 
for our .01N solution.

The formula is for finding the number of milliliters is:

X [which is milliliters to use] = .365g  /  ( (percentage HCL in g) (100 ml))

Substitute the actual percentage from the bottle (ie 30.7 or 29.24 or 
whatever it says)

This will tell you a very tiny number, like 1.88 mililiters. You can do one 
of two things:

1.  Measure out the x of hydrochloric acid, and make up a solution of 1 
liter of distilled water and 

[biofuel] testing for glycerol using borax

[leif forer]

Hi All (Keith, Alecs, Mike)~

I was searching through the archives and ran across a message (#4005) 
that proposed a bucket test for glycerol content of home brew biodiesel 
using borax. Has anyone experimented with this yet or come up with a 
better backyard test?

 From Michael Aereboe's original post:

WHEN GLYCERINE IS MIXED WITH BORAX AND INTRODUCED INTO A BUNSEN BURNER 
FLAME, A GREEN TINGED FLAME IS PRODUCED. I WILL TRY THIS SHORTLY. bORAX 
IS reported SOLUBLE 1 : 1 IN GLYCERINE, AND INSOLUBLE IN ALCOHOL, SO IF 
THERE IS GLYCERINE IN THE BD ester, it will dissolve an equal mass of 
borax and a green flame should be found on burning the BD? If this 
works then I suppose a crude assay would be to add an known excess 
borax into a measured volume BD, stir till as much as will dissolve has 
gone into solution, weigh the balance of insoluble borax (filter borax 
out) and calculate approx glycerine by difference etc.
These are my thoughts looking at the ID who knows if it will work, i'll 
get around to trying with time. I suppose to validate this crude method 
say 0.500g and 2.000 g pure glycerine could be mixed into good 
glycerine to compare by difference if the determination is linear?

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Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel

[Bob Allen]

Hello Kieth and Jay et al.   First an introduction:  I am an organic 
chemist with a long time interest in environmental issues, particularly 
resource conservation.  In the past I have organized and operated a 
community recycling center, served on the Arkansas State Alternative 
fuels commission, and generally "beat the drum" in any venue available 
to me.  A few years ago I began very small scale production of biodiesel 
as a demonstration in my organic labs (about 20 ml at a time- ironically 
the demonstration was to show large scale production relative to the 
amounts of stuff my students usually handle.)


  Somewhere along the way I thought I should "walk the talk", so last 
spring I bought a 81 MB 300SD This summer I made a few one gallon 
batches from virgin oil, and am currently operating on the same scale 
with used fry oil from the food service here on campus- about 140 
gallons a week available for the taking.


One interest in particular is the issue of waste disposal/utilization, 
the strongly alkaline glycerol remainder in particular.  What do both 
small and large producers do?  I guess large producers can give/sell the 
stuff off but I can't imagine much of a market for a gallon or two at a 
time.  So here is my idea- more fuel.


One ought to be able to react the "left overs" with dimethyl sulfate or 
maybe a methyl halide to form a product- 1,2,3-trimethoxy propane which 
ought to serve as an oxygenated gasoline additive.  Lots of ought to's 
and maybes, but hey its research.



boy, this is a busy list...

later.

--
Bob Allen, Professor of Chemistryhttp://ozarker.org/bob
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Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel

[Pedro M.V.]

If you want, we can talk to convert your testing like official Spanish 
Biodiesel Association tests (send email to me). This would be a very good help 
for new biodiesellers. The user could recieve the results by email.

I have in mind at least two persons in different places of the country.

Regards.



Elabore caseramente biodiesel para su actual motor de gasoil petrol’fero
La soluci—n a sus problemas energŽticos.

http://www.enlazando.com/energia
http://journeytoforever.org/energiaweb/

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel


  In a message dated 8/25/03 11:14:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  > Is there any lab that will test a sample of hombrewed bioD to see if it
  > meets specs?  I appreciate it
  > J.D.

  I can analyze it for you by infrared spectroscopy.  Send a sample plus a 
  sample of the spec fuel.  All I need is one drop of each.  Normal cost is 
  $60/sample.  I'll do this one for you for free.  Future samples will be at 
the stated 
  price.

  -- Jay


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Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel

[DokDream]

In a message dated 8/26/03 12:37:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

> Bob Allen, Professor of Chemistry http://ozarker.org/bob

PS, Bob.  You did know that I was teasing you, right?

-- Jay


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Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel

[DokDream]

In a message dated 8/26/03 2:39:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Bob Allen wrote:
> 
> >Just curious, what will you be measuring by IR spectroscopy?  I ran
> >virgin vegetable oil, pure FAME, and used vegetable oil and they are
> >essentially indistinguishable.
> 
> A chemist, who quotes Frank Zappa to boot! Welcome! :-) And all this 
> time I thought it was excentrifugal forz. Tut.
> 
> Anyway, do you know about all this?
> 

Measurement of normalized peak heights with comparison between standard and 
sample addresses your point.  Vegetable oil thet has been hydrogenated or 
oxidized will have a different spectrogaphic profile than "virgin" -- as you 
put it 
-- vegetable oil.   This isn't rocket science here, folks.  Well, on second 
thought, maybe it is.  At any rate, I cut my teeth, so to speak, on IR 
spectroscopy of Green River Oil Shale while getting my MSChE.  I've been using 
IR 
throughout my career and love it as an analytical tool.  Perhaps some component 
separation would be necessary, first.  If so, TLC (no, not "tender, loving, 
care," but Thin Layer Chromatography)  probably would be the means of choice.  

Anyhow, don't look a gift horse in the mouth, Bob!  I'm going to analyze the 
stuff for J.D. gratis, for zero, ziltch.  (Hey, if it helps eliminate fossil 
fuel powered vehicles, I'm in favor of it.)

-- Jay


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Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel

[Keith Addison]

Bob Allen wrote:

>Just curious, what will you be measuring by IR spectroscopy?  I ran
>virgin vegetable oil, pure FAME, and used vegetable oil and they are
>essentially indistinguishable.

A chemist, who quotes Frank Zappa to boot! Welcome! :-) And all this 
time I thought it was excentrifugal forz. Tut.

Anyway, do you know about all this?

NIR Helps Turn Vegetable Oil into High-Quality Biofuel -- ARS News 
Release, June 15, 1999
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/NIR.html

Rapid Monitoring of Transesterification and Assessing Biodiesel Fuel 
Quality by Near-infrared Spectroscopy Using a Fiber-Optic Probe, by 
Gerhard Knothe, ARS, JAOCS 76, 795-800 (July 1999)
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/NIR1.html

Monitoring a Progressing Transesterification Reaction by Fiber-Optic 
Near Infrared Spectroscopy with Correlation to 1H Nuclear Magnetic 
Resonance Spectroscopy, by Gerhard Knothe, ARS, JAOCS 77, 489-493 
(May 2000)
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/NIR2.html

Best

Keith



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> >
> > I can analyze it for you by infrared spectroscopy.  Send a sample plus a
> > sample of the spec fuel.  All I need is one drop of each.  Normal cost is
> > $60/sample.  I'll do this one for you for free.  Future samples 
>will be at the stated
> > price.
> >
> > -- Jay
> >
> >
>
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Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel

[Bob Allen]

Just curious, what will you be measuring by IR spectroscopy?  I ran 
virgin vegetable oil, pure FAME, and used vegetable oil and they are 
essentially indistinguishable.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


> 
> I can analyze it for you by infrared spectroscopy.  Send a sample plus a 
> sample of the spec fuel.  All I need is one drop of each.  Normal cost is 
> $60/sample.  I'll do this one for you for free.  Future samples will be at 
> the stated 
> price.
> 
> -- Jay
> 
> 

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Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel

[Pedro M.V.]

About gas chromatography : 

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromatography#Gas_chromatography

  - Original Message - 
  From: Andreas W Ohnsorge 
  To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 9:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel




  I found some in Germany - they are usually testing large biodiesel batches
  and are quite expensive (around 800 Euros for a full test). If you don't
  want to sell the stuff you should consider testing only the really
  important variables (glycerides,...) which is a gaschromatography test and
  that was about 120 Euros here.

  I found those laboratories by asking some of the biodiesel producers where
  they let test their biodiesel...

  Andreas Ohnsorge

  CSC Ploenzke AG
  Abraham-Lincoln-Park 1
  65189 Wiesbaden
  Germany
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  Fax: +49.611.142.980028
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Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel II

[Pedro M.V.]

How does one call the more complete industrial biodesel test???

Regards.

Elabore caseramente biodiesel para su actual motor de gasoil petrol’fero
La soluci—n a sus problemas energŽticos.

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  Is there any lab that will test a sample of hombrewed bioD to see if it
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Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel

[Pedro M.V.]

Good idea. But I think standard (petrol) bodies includes difficult and 
expensive test to obstruct homebrewed  biodiesel  ( the best test it«s the 
engine test and clean cylinders from time to time).

For small industrial production is another think. One could analize in 
different ways the produced biodiesel and give advice ( clean more the oil, and 
so on...).

Regards.


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Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel

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In a message dated 8/25/03 11:14:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Is there any lab that will test a sample of hombrewed bioD to see if it
> meets specs?  I appreciate it
> J.D.

I can analyze it for you by infrared spectroscopy.  Send a sample plus a 
sample of the spec fuel.  All I need is one drop of each.  Normal cost is 
$60/sample.  I'll do this one for you for free.  Future samples will be at the 
stated 
price.

-- Jay


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Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel

[Neoteric Biofuels Inc]

Check ASTM for listings of local labs equipped to do some or all of the  
tests for the ASTM biodiesel standards, then contact them for quotes.

This may help:

http://www.astm.org/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/LABS/ 
search.html?L+mystore+xbff5197



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Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel

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http://www.astm.org/ 
verity_hist.cgi?UserQuery=BIODIESEL&SEARCH_COLLECTION=ACTIVE_REDLINE&SEA 
RCH_STATUS=ALL&MARKETING_CODE=GP1&NS-search-type=Free+text&NS-max- 
records=5&NS-search-type=boolean&NS- 
query=BIODIESEL+AND+NOT+%28STATUS+%3CNEAR%2F1%3E+REPLACED%29&CART_NAME=x 
bff5197&STORE_NAME=mystore&NS-collection=ASTM_ACTIVE_REDLINE&NS- 
collection2=ASTM_HISTORICAL&NS-collection3=ASTM_WITHDRAWN&NS- 
collection4=ASTM_WORKITEMS

Very long URL, but perhaps you can copy and paste the whole thing into  
your browser. Leads to publications from ASTM, tests, test methods,  
standards, etc.


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Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel

[Jack Kenworthy]

Analytical Testing Services in Franklin, PA will test it for you if you send 
them a 1 gallon sample, to meet ASTM 6751-03, for $972.00 all inclusive - it 
ain't cheap.  
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Andreas W Ohnsorge 
  To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com 
  Cc: biofuel@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 3:02 AM
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  I found some in Germany - they are usually testing large biodiesel batches
  and are quite expensive (around 800 Euros for a full test). If you don't
  want to sell the stuff you should consider testing only the really
  important variables (glycerides,...) which is a gaschromatography test and
  that was about 120 Euros here.

  I found those laboratories by asking some of the biodiesel producers where
  they let test their biodiesel...

  Andreas Ohnsorge

  CSC Ploenzke AG
  Abraham-Lincoln-Park 1
  65189 Wiesbaden
  Germany
  Phone: +49.611.142.20020
  Fax: +49.611.142.980028
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Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel

[Andreas W Ohnsorge]

I found some in Germany - they are usually testing large biodiesel batches
and are quite expensive (around 800 Euros for a full test). If you don't
want to sell the stuff you should consider testing only the really
important variables (glycerides,...) which is a gaschromatography test and
that was about 120 Euros here.

I found those laboratories by asking some of the biodiesel producers where
they let test their biodiesel...

Andreas Ohnsorge

CSC Ploenzke AG
Abraham-Lincoln-Park 1
65189 Wiesbaden
Germany
Phone: +49.611.142.20020
Fax: +49.611.142.980028
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[biofuel] Testing of biodiesel

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this is a test please disregard.



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