Sulfur - was [biofuel] Ethanol Diesel Lubricity dirty fuel
MH wrote: I have some ignorant questions (I had to ask): I'm not sure if I'd deliberately add water to biodiesel since BD and ethanol absorb moisture from the air. Anyone know the saturation point of either biofuels? And wouldn't the filters take care of this? A partnership with Chevron mentioned there additive surrounded the water molecules. Doesn't Biodiesel? As well as ethanol (although it lacks lubricity on its own)? With biodiesel cetane rated in the mid to upper 50 range and looks like todays US petro-diesel in the low 40 range how is it the German auto manufactures can technically engineer higher quality diesel engines then the US since BD is moisture absorbent potentially lowering cetane rating? The reason I asked is the prominent production levels their. What makes US diesel fuel dirtier then the European Union's? Harmon wrote: Sulfur Reading this story it sounds to me things aren't much different there in the EU then here in the USA. INTERVIEW - Europe's refiners bemoan green red tape June 10, 2002 Story by Sujata Rao REUTERS NEWS SERVICE http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/16350 Excerpts impart: The EU has imposed a deadline of 2005 for all member states to switch to motor fuels containing 50 parts per million parts sulphur while by 2011, sulphur content in diesel and gasoline must be no more than 10 ppm. Tjan did not say how much investment was required to bring European refineries up to scratch but many firms, mostly in northern Europe, have been forced to move faster on the switch because their governments have rolled forward the deadlines, using a tax incentive that makes it unprofitable to produce the old higher sulphur diesel and gasoline. Germany, for instance, will move to 10 ppm fuels from January 2003 while Britain, Finland and Benelux states are also likely to do so. But Tjan cast doubt on the benefits of an early switch, which he said was supported by an auto industry keen to see car fleets replaced faster. Oil firms also complain about EU regulations that call for a biodiesel content of two percent by 2005 and five percent by 2010 in all motor fuels. Two percent biodiesel is equivalent to one percent of crude oil so it will make no significant contribution to security of supply or in reducing CO2 emissions, Tjan said. ` Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Will You Find True Love? Will You Meet the One? Free Love Reading by phone! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Deo18C/zDLEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Ethanol Diesel Lubricity dirty fuel
I have some ignorant questions (I had to ask): I'm not sure if I'd deliberately add water to biodiesel since BD and ethanol absorb moisture from the air. Anyone know the saturation point of either biofuels? And wouldn't the filters take care of this? A partnership with Chevron mentioned there additive surrounded the water molecules. Doesn't Biodiesel? As well as ethanol (although it lacks lubricity on its own)? With biodiesel cetane rated in the mid to upper 50 range and looks like todays US petro-diesel in the low 40 range how is it the German auto manufactures can technically engineer higher quality diesel engines then the US since BD is moisture absorbent potentially lowering cetane rating? The reason I asked is the prominent production levels their. What makes US diesel fuel dirtier then the European Union's? Thank you! ` Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Will You Find True Love? Will You Meet the One? Free Love Reading by phone! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Dr_ObB/zDLEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Ethanol Diesel Lubricity dirty fuel
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 02:32:04PM -0500, MH wrote: I have some ignorant questions (I had to ask): I'm not sure if I'd deliberately add water to biodiesel since BD and ethanol absorb moisture from the air. Anyone know the saturation point of either biofuels? And wouldn't the filters take care of this? A partnership with Chevron mentioned there additive surrounded the water molecules. Doesn't Biodiesel? As well as ethanol (although it lacks lubricity on its own)? With biodiesel cetane rated in the mid to upper 50 range and looks like todays US petro-diesel in the low 40 range how is it the German auto manufactures can technically engineer higher quality diesel engines then the US since BD is moisture absorbent potentially lowering cetane rating? The reason I asked is the prominent production levels their. What makes US diesel fuel dirtier then the European Union's? Sulfur -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Will You Find True Love? Will You Meet the One? Free Love Reading by phone! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Dr_ObB/zDLEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
