Re: [biofuel] EPA's bad data?

2004-06-25 Thread John Hayes

Hunt, Adam wrote:

 I just ran across an EPA run website where you can look up the EPA rated 
 mileage and Air Pollution Score (pounds of smog forming pollution per 15k 
 miles).  For some reason every recent VW TDI scored markedly worse then their 
 gas counterparts.  In some cases the diesels are shown to produce twice as 
 much smog.  Can anyone comment on this?  I have always been told that diesels 
 are generally cleaner.

In a nutshell, yes the TDI is much dirtier than the 2.0 or 1.8T when 
using the EPA's pollution measures. There is legitimate, and sometimes 
heated, debate as to whether these measures are appropriate.

Grossly oversimplified, the TDI is worse on NOx and PM and better on 
CO2. Thus, if you are concerned about smog, the TDI is worse, but if 
global climate change is your main concern, the TDI is better. Post hoc 
rationalizations run rampant on both sides of the debate.

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Re: [biofuel] EPA's bad data?

2004-06-25 Thread Martin Klingensmith

Hunt, Adam wrote:

I just ran across an EPA run website where you can look up the EPA rated 
mileage and Air Pollution Score (pounds of smog forming pollution per 15k 
miles).  For some reason every recent VW TDI scored markedly worse then their 
gas counterparts.  In some cases the diesels are shown to produce twice as 
much smog.  Can anyone comment on this?  I have always been told that diesels 
are generally cleaner.

The site in question can be found at 
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/findacar.htm

--adam
  

My car [1999 chevrolet cavalier 2.2l 5spd] is incorrectly rated as 
getting 24 mpg city / 34 hwy. I get 30 and 35. This has been discussed 
quite a bit lately and I have come to the personal conclusion that the 
EPA ratings are calculated by racecar drivers.
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Martin Klingensmith
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[biofuel] EPA's bad data?

2004-06-24 Thread Hunt, Adam

I just ran across an EPA run website where you can look up the EPA rated 
mileage and Air Pollution Score (pounds of smog forming pollution per 15k 
miles).  For some reason every recent VW TDI scored markedly worse then their 
gas counterparts.  In some cases the diesels are shown to produce twice as much 
smog.  Can anyone comment on this?  I have always been told that diesels are 
generally cleaner.

The site in question can be found at http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/findacar.htm

--adam



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