Fwd: Re: [biofuel] NaOH Supply

2003-01-21 Thread Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]

--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Greg and April [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lye.

You can find it at the hardware store or grocery store, on the same isle as
drain cleaners, in a can just a bit larger than a soda can.  It might be
marked with the brand name Red Devil.

Greg H.

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From: Robin Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 21:39
Subject: [biofuel] NaOH Supply


 Is there a typical non-commercial source of sodium hydroxide?  I was
reading on the journey to forever page that it is something you can get at a
hardware store - what would it be called??

 Could I just walk in and ask for a bottle/tub of NaOH or is there a
layman's term for the stuff?

 Thanks
 Robin


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Re: [biofuel] NaOH Supply

2003-01-21 Thread girl mark

If you;re in the US, that would be 'lye' - drain cleaner- the Red Devil 
brand specifically. It has to be pure 100% lye- (and Red Devil says so on 
the label in TINY little letters if you squint hard enough). The other odd 
varieties of drain cleaner (crystal,foaming,newformula,liquid whatever) 
have other ingredients and wo'n't do the job (and are probably not safe 
combinations of chemicals to try playing with). Red Devil is still 
economical enough to make cheap fuel, even though it's 4 or more tiimes as 
expensive as buying bulk lye- but you won't have to deal with storage if 
you just buy it a couple cans at a time.
Keep it closed- it absorbs moisture from the atmosphere and it can react 
with carbon dioxide, so measure it quickly...
otherwise when you're ready to make large amounts of biodiesel you can get 
25 lb or 50 lb bags of 100% (or 99% probably) lye from industrial chemical 
supply houses. When I buy a big bag like that I divide it quickly into 
sandwich bags and keep them in a sealed bucket.
Try KOH sometime, too- much easier to work with (ie dissolves faster, 
doesn't absorb moisture as fast and comes in bigger chunks that probably 
are the cause of that), though it's more expensive and you'd use more... 
Try and get it in 90% or better purity...
good luck,
Mark

At 08:39 PM 1/20/2003 -0800, you wrote:
Is there a typical non-commercial source of sodium hydroxide?  I was 
reading on the journey to forever page that it is something you can get at 
a hardware store - what would it be called??

Could I just walk in and ask for a bottle/tub of NaOH or is there a 
layman's term for the stuff?

Thanks
Robin


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