[biofuel] Re: NADI and Komet was Safety and the environment (was washing machine and biodiesel)
Another option that can be considered: In addition to SVO as another alternative to making biodiesel which requires nothing more than mechanical mixing with Vegoil. It is called NADI (natural diesel) Worldwide patents have been awarded for this product, and it has evolved since work began on it in the early 90's. The additive can be too expensive in some markets relative to biodiesel or petrodiesel cost, BUT in other markets it's safety and ease of use may represent a good solution and it may be competitive against other options (petrodiesel, diesel additives, building biodiesel plants at a small commercial scale, etc.) NADI concentrate is mixed at 20% with 80% Vegoil to reduce the viscosity of the vegoil and make the finished product fit for use in diesels. The cloud point and pour point are lower than for biodiesel. Like biodiesel, NADI can be mixed in any proportion with petrodiesel. Very low percent blends serve as lubricity additive, and at slightly higher blends, horsepower and fuel economy gains appear to occur as well as reduction of emissions. If coupled with the production of various cold pressed oils from a cold press such as the Komet press, for a range of markets, and if the resultant high quality press cake is used or sold for feed or organic fertilizer, the overall production system can be viable in some markets and provide a range of opportunities at village, farm, regional scale in addition to the production of fuel alone. A range of other additives are available for the production of various lubricants including bar and chain oil, hydraulic oil, two-stroke oil, etc. (Two stroke oil has not yet been approved by manufacturers). The additives have received the German Blue Angel ecologo award for compliance with rigorous ecotoxicological standards. There is then no methanol and no glycerine, and no SVO system needed. Of course, the cold pressed oil can be used as SVO without the NADI additive if desired, if an SVO system is more economically feasible. We are agents for both Komet presses and the additives mentioned. Anyone interested in this option can contact me off list for more information. Please be as specific as possible in your inquiries. Thank you. Edward Beggs www.biofuels.ca [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Neoteric Biofuels Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:16:44 -0800 To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Safety and the environment (was washing machine and biodiesel) Excerpts: Methanol Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Universal Inkjet Refill Kit $29.95 Refill any ink cartridge for less! Includes black and color ink. http://us.click.yahoo.com/0zggVB/MkNDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: NADI and Komet was Safety and the environment (was washing machine and biodiesel)
:-0 sorry if it sounds a like a stupid question, and sorry if this question is not specific enough but ... witch kind of magic stuff is that? you sell it? is real natural diesel? sorry but i couldn't wait without asking thanks Manuel Rolan Valencia, Spain --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Neoteric Biofuels Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another option that can be considered: In addition to SVO as another alternative to making biodiesel which requires nothing more than mechanical mixing with Vegoil. It is called NADI (natural diesel) Worldwide patents have been awarded for this product, and it has evolved since work began on it in the early 90's. The additive can be too expensive in some markets relative to biodiesel or petrodiesel cost, BUT in other markets it's safety and ease of use may represent a good solution and it may be competitive against other options (petrodiesel, diesel additives, building biodiesel plants at a small commercial scale, etc.) NADI concentrate is mixed at 20% with 80% Vegoil to reduce the viscosity of the vegoil and make the finished product fit for use in diesels. The cloud point and pour point are lower than for biodiesel. Like biodiesel, NADI can be mixed in any proportion with petrodiesel. Very low percent blends serve as lubricity additive, and at slightly higher blends, horsepower and fuel economy gains appear to occur as well as reduction of emissions. If coupled with the production of various cold pressed oils from a cold press such as the Komet press, for a range of markets, and if the resultant high quality press cake is used or sold for feed or organic fertilizer, the overall production system can be viable in some markets and provide a range of opportunities at village, farm, regional scale in addition to the production of fuel alone. A range of other additives are available for the production of various lubricants including bar and chain oil, hydraulic oil, two-stroke oil, etc. (Two stroke oil has not yet been approved by manufacturers). The additives have received the German Blue Angel ecologo award for compliance with rigorous ecotoxicological standards. There is then no methanol and no glycerine, and no SVO system needed. Of course, the cold pressed oil can be used as SVO without the NADI additive if desired, if an SVO system is more economically feasible. We are agents for both Komet presses and the additives mentioned. Anyone interested in this option can contact me off list for more information. Please be as specific as possible in your inquiries. Thank you. Edward Beggs www.biofuels.ca [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Neoteric Biofuels Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:16:44 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [biofuel] Safety and the environment (was washing machine and biodiesel) Excerpts: Methanol Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Universal Inkjet Refill Kit $29.95 Refill any ink cartridge for less! Includes black and color ink. http://us.click.yahoo.com/4bQK.B/MkNDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: NADI and Komet was Safety and the environment (was washing machine and biodiesel)
Hi - It is not magic, it is at least and probably more natural than biodiesel (with its usual 20% or so usually natural gas-derived methanol 'content'), and it is made by a reputable, long-established company that also makes methyl ester and many other fuel and lubricant products including many from renewable resources. The final product is 80% vegoil (rapeseed oil, normally), and 20% of the NADI additive, which is largely composed, itself, of renewable and natural products. Yes, we sell it, and the presses, etc. The integrated whole is what may make it worthwhile in a given region, that is to say, making cold pressed oils, contract pressing, sales of a wide range of specialty oils to food, nutraceutical, pharmaceutical markets, and sale or feeding of the presscake to livessotck (adding value, and presscake which is of higher value than that from solvent extraction facilities, since there is more oil left in it and it also has come from a cold press). It is an interesting option for some regions, and definitely something a bit different than trying to purify glycerine and sell it, or recover methanol, worry about waste disposal, etc. Is it competitive with diesel or biodiesel? That depends on the market and the prices of those products. In the US and Canada, it is more than commercial biodiesel, but the price come down at some point. In other markets, it may or may not be competitive,have to check individually. It does allow the producer to make an alternative, mostly natural diesel fuel or additive for diesel fuel without producing biodiesel (ie, no methanol, no glycerine, no sodium methoxide, etc.) by simple mechanical mixing with local (80%) oil. Some oils may or may not be suitable, and we'd have to check on them individually if not rapeseed oil. Please do contact me off list by emailing directly, I only wanted to mention it in the context of the discussion on safety concerns, methanol, etc. Regards, Edward Beggs www.biofuels.ca From: Manolo Rolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:53:21 + To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Re: NADI and Komet was Safety and the environment (was washing machine and biodiesel) :-0 sorry if it sounds a like a stupid question, and sorry if this question is not specific enough but ... witch kind of magic stuff is that? you sell it? is real natural diesel? sorry but i couldn't wait without asking thanks Manuel Rolan Valencia, Spain Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Universal Inkjet Refill Kit $29.95 Refill any ink cartridge for less! Includes black and color ink. http://us.click.yahoo.com/iHh8lD/MkNDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
