RE: [biofuel] biofuel from oil for a thesis

2004-02-14 Thread Tan

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=-Original Message-
=From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
=Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 12:37 AM
=To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
=Subject: Re: [biofuel] biofuel from oil for a thesis
=
=
=I am a fourth year student from the University of the 
=Philippines and for my
=thesis my adviser suggested making biodiesel and analysis of its
=characteristics. We thought of using the procedure from the Philippine
=Coconut Authority but when my adviser saw the Foolproof Method 
=outlined in
=Journey to Forever, she said it was a better method. The 
=experiment will be
=supervised by my thesis advisers; one of them specializes in organic
=synthesis.
=
=The Foolproof Method acid-base process is about the best method 
=available, but it's an advanced method, as I said. It says this right 
=at the top:
=
=NOTE: The two-stage biodiesel processes are advanced methods, not 
=for novices -- learn the basics thoroughly first. The single-stage 
=base method is the place to start. Start here.
=http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_aleksnew.html
=Foolproof biodiesel process: Journey to Forever
=
=Here being here:
=Where do I start?
=http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#start
=
=Have you or your thesis adviser who specializes in organic synthesis 
=made biodiesel before?
=
=Keith Addison
=Journey to Forever
=
=
=michelle manglicmot wrote:
=
=I will be trying to make biofuel from coconut oil through the method
=suggested in journey to forever.
=
=Which one? There are several, not all for novices.
=
= it was stated there that product will be
=allowed to stand for 3 weeks. is it possible to cut short this time?
=
=Yes, after finishing the wash, try heating the biodiesel to 45 deg 
=C, if it goes cloudy again do it a second time, but it shouldn't go 
=cloudy after the first time - it would mean you should improve your 
=processing. You'll accomplish the same end in little more time 
=without using more energy for heating by letting it stand in the 
=sunshine for a while.
=
=But which process are you intending to use? Please give the url.
=
=Please note what it says about the stoichometric ratio of methanol 
=to coconut oil here:
=http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_meth.html
=How much methanol?
=
=Keith Addison
=Journey to Forever
=
=
=
=
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Re: [biofuel] biofuel from oil for a thesis

2004-02-14 Thread Keith Addison

michelle manglicmot wrote:

To the best of my knowledge this is the first time we are trying to 
make biodiesel. But my advser specializes in organic synthesis.

Yes, so you said. Nonetheless, I suggest you start at the beginning 
rather then with an advanced method:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#start

Best

Keith


I am a fourth year student from the University of the Philippines and for my
thesis my adviser suggested making biodiesel and analysis of its
characteristics. We thought of using the procedure from the Philippine
Coconut Authority but when my adviser saw the Foolproof Method outlined in
Journey to Forever, she said it was a better method. The experiment will be
supervised by my thesis advisers; one of them specializes in organic
synthesis.

The Foolproof Method acid-base process is about the best method 
available, but it's an advanced method, as I said. It says this 
right at the top:

NOTE: The two-stage biodiesel processes are advanced methods, not 
for novices -- learn the basics thoroughly first. The single-stage 
base method is the place to start. Start here.
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_aleksnew.html
Foolproof biodiesel process: Journey to Forever

Here being here:
Where do I start?
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#start

Have you or your thesis adviser who specializes in organic synthesis 
made biodiesel before?

Keith Addison
Journey to Forever


michelle manglicmot wrote:

I will be trying to make biofuel from coconut oil through the method
suggested in journey to forever.

Which one? There are several, not all for novices.

 it was stated there that product will be
allowed to stand for 3 weeks. is it possible to cut short this time?

Yes, after finishing the wash, try heating the biodiesel to 45 deg 
C, if it goes cloudy again do it a second time, but it shouldn't go 
cloudy after the first time - it would mean you should improve your 
processing. You'll accomplish the same end in little more time 
without using more energy for heating by letting it stand in the 
sunshine for a while.

But which process are you intending to use? Please give the url.

Please note what it says about the stoichometric ratio of methanol 
to coconut oil here:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_meth.html
How much methanol?

Keith Addison
Journey to Forever



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Re: [biofuel] biofuel from oil for a thesis

2004-02-12 Thread michelle manglicmot

I am a fourth year student from the University of the Philippines and for my 
thesis my adviser suggested making biodiesel and analysis of its 
characteristics. We thought of using the procedure from the Philippine 
Coconut Authority but when my adviser saw the Foolproof Method outlined in 
Journey to Forever, she said it was a better method. The experiment will be 
supervised by my thesis advisers; one of them specializes in organic 
synthesis.

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Re: [biofuel] biofuel from oil for a thesis

2004-02-12 Thread Keith Addison

I am a fourth year student from the University of the Philippines and for my
thesis my adviser suggested making biodiesel and analysis of its
characteristics. We thought of using the procedure from the Philippine
Coconut Authority but when my adviser saw the Foolproof Method outlined in
Journey to Forever, she said it was a better method. The experiment will be
supervised by my thesis advisers; one of them specializes in organic
synthesis.

The Foolproof Method acid-base process is about the best method 
available, but it's an advanced method, as I said. It says this right 
at the top:

NOTE: The two-stage biodiesel processes are advanced methods, not 
for novices -- learn the basics thoroughly first. The single-stage 
base method is the place to start. Start here.
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_aleksnew.html
Foolproof biodiesel process: Journey to Forever

Here being here:
Where do I start?
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#start

Have you or your thesis adviser who specializes in organic synthesis 
made biodiesel before?

Keith Addison
Journey to Forever


michelle manglicmot wrote:

I will be trying to make biofuel from coconut oil through the method
suggested in journey to forever.

Which one? There are several, not all for novices.

 it was stated there that product will be
allowed to stand for 3 weeks. is it possible to cut short this time?

Yes, after finishing the wash, try heating the biodiesel to 45 deg 
C, if it goes cloudy again do it a second time, but it shouldn't go 
cloudy after the first time - it would mean you should improve your 
processing. You'll accomplish the same end in little more time 
without using more energy for heating by letting it stand in the 
sunshine for a while.

But which process are you intending to use? Please give the url.

Please note what it says about the stoichometric ratio of methanol 
to coconut oil here:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_meth.html
How much methanol?

Keith Addison
Journey to Forever



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Re: [biofuel] biofuel from oil for a thesis

2004-02-10 Thread Keith Addison

michelle manglicmot wrote:

I will be trying to make biofuel from coconut oil through the method
suggested in journey to forever.

Which one? There are several, not all for novices.

 it was stated there that product will be
allowed to stand for 3 weeks. is it possible to cut short this time?

Yes, after finishing the wash, try heating the biodiesel to 45 deg C, 
if it goes cloudy again do it a second time, but it shouldn't go 
cloudy after the first time - it would mean you should improve your 
processing. You'll accomplish the same end in little more time 
without using more energy for heating by letting it stand in the 
sunshine for a while.

But which process are you intending to use? Please give the url.

Please note what it says about the stoichometric ratio of methanol to 
coconut oil here:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_meth.html
How much methanol?

Keith Addison
Journey to Forever



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