Re: [Biofuel] Your Tax dollars at work

[Mike Weaver]

Sorry about that - if I want to go over to dark side I think I'd be good 
at it, no?

Oh well.  NO fear of that!

JJJN wrote:

Sheesh,
Ok jokes on me, (giggle) goodness sakes if it didn't just sound so much 
like what Rush or Rove or one of those Preachers for hire would say 
though. Should have read the whole thread closer.
Well any way Merry X-mas Mike.
Jim

Mike Weaver wrote:

  

It's not true; I made it up as an example of what we can expect instead 
of any sort or reasoned debate about the actual problems facing the US.

It's a hoax.

-Mike

JJJN wrote:

 



  LIBERAL PLAN TO REMOVE THE CHRIST FROM CHRISTMAS AND MAKE IT
   

  

   X-MAS.
   My fellow American, I have learned today that the Liberals in
   Congress
   are secretly plotting to take Jesus, the Christ, out of Christmas and
   change the holiday's name to X-mas. As we all know, X is simply
   shorthand for X-rated, and if these godless secular humanist 
 



liberals
   

  

   aren't stopped, soon the birthday of Christ will
   become a sex-drenched extragaganza. Your children will subjected to
   topless elves, video sex toys and a parade of naked X-mas
   characters.

   ONLY YOU CAN STOP THIS ATTACK ON JESUS. YOU MUST DONATE TO THE KEEP
   THE CHRIST IN CHRISTMAS PAC SO WE CAN SPREAD THE WORD.

   EVEN MORE IMPORTANLY, YOU MUST SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL REPUBLICAN IN THE
   UPCOMING PRIMARIES.

   God bless,
   Karl Rove
 



Ok ,  Sorry to bring this thread back to life but I was away for 
awhile.  This is just s wrong I gotta get my 2 cents in.

1) X-mas is short hand, X= Cross = Christ + mas = Christmas  I remember 
it being written this way before the word liberal was used to describe a 
strong Democrat or opposite of Conservative.
2) Just when was Christ ever in Christmas anyway?  The holiday was 
created by Catholics to convert large groups of Pagans to catholics by 
taking Pagan traditions and celebrations and calling them Christs Mass.  
They created a PHONY birthday for Christ so it would coincide (just 
after) with the winter solstice wherein these Pagan traditions 
revolved.  The whole deal is more Catholics meant more Money in the 
church and more power to convert more Catholics.

Rove is using this same ages old tactic to create more 
REPULICHRISTIANS whereby more money whereby more power to... - (this 
part scares me)

I don't care if you are Catholic and love your holiday or if you are 
anything else and love the holiday - the point is the religious right 
thinks that they have a God given agenda to stomp on anyone that 
disagrees on them and their agenda.  The sad part is, if Christ came 
back and didn't agree with them he might get put on the cross again.

In summary religion is a bigger business than oil.

Sorry I digress

Jim



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Re: [Biofuel] Your Tax dollars at work

[Mike Weaver]

It's not true; I made it up as an example of what we can expect instead 
of any sort or reasoned debate about the actual problems facing the US.

It's a hoax.

-Mike

JJJN wrote:

LIBERAL PLAN TO REMOVE THE CHRIST FROM CHRISTMAS AND MAKE IT
  X-MAS.
  My fellow American, I have learned today that the Liberals in
  Congress
  are secretly plotting to take Jesus, the Christ, out of Christmas and
  change the holiday's name to X-mas. As we all know, X is simply
  shorthand for X-rated, and if these godless secular humanist 
liberals
  aren't stopped, soon the birthday of Christ will
  become a sex-drenched extragaganza. Your children will subjected to
  topless elves, video sex toys and a parade of naked X-mas
  characters.
 
  ONLY YOU CAN STOP THIS ATTACK ON JESUS. YOU MUST DONATE TO THE KEEP
  THE CHRIST IN CHRISTMAS PAC SO WE CAN SPREAD THE WORD.
 
  EVEN MORE IMPORTANLY, YOU MUST SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL REPUBLICAN IN THE
  UPCOMING PRIMARIES.
 
  God bless,
  Karl Rove

Ok ,  Sorry to bring this thread back to life but I was away for 
awhile.  This is just s wrong I gotta get my 2 cents in.

1) X-mas is short hand, X= Cross = Christ + mas = Christmas  I remember 
it being written this way before the word liberal was used to describe a 
strong Democrat or opposite of Conservative.
2) Just when was Christ ever in Christmas anyway?  The holiday was 
created by Catholics to convert large groups of Pagans to catholics by 
taking Pagan traditions and celebrations and calling them Christs Mass.  
They created a PHONY birthday for Christ so it would coincide (just 
after) with the winter solstice wherein these Pagan traditions 
revolved.  The whole deal is more Catholics meant more Money in the 
church and more power to convert more Catholics.

Rove is using this same ages old tactic to create more 
REPULICHRISTIANS whereby more money whereby more power to... - (this 
part scares me)

I don't care if you are Catholic and love your holiday or if you are 
anything else and love the holiday - the point is the religious right 
thinks that they have a God given agenda to stomp on anyone that 
disagrees on them and their agenda.  The sad part is, if Christ came 
back and didn't agree with them he might get put on the cross again.

In summary religion is a bigger business than oil.

Sorry I digress

Jim



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Re: [Biofuel] Your Tax dollars at work

[JJJN]

Sheesh,
Ok jokes on me, (giggle) goodness sakes if it didn't just sound so much 
like what Rush or Rove or one of those Preachers for hire would say 
though. Should have read the whole thread closer.
Well any way Merry X-mas Mike.
Jim

Mike Weaver wrote:

It's not true; I made it up as an example of what we can expect instead 
of any sort or reasoned debate about the actual problems facing the US.

It's a hoax.

-Mike

JJJN wrote:

  

   LIBERAL PLAN TO REMOVE THE CHRIST FROM CHRISTMAS AND MAKE IT


X-MAS.
My fellow American, I have learned today that the Liberals in
Congress
are secretly plotting to take Jesus, the Christ, out of Christmas and
change the holiday's name to X-mas. As we all know, X is simply
shorthand for X-rated, and if these godless secular humanist 
  

liberals


aren't stopped, soon the birthday of Christ will
become a sex-drenched extragaganza. Your children will subjected to
topless elves, video sex toys and a parade of naked X-mas
characters.

ONLY YOU CAN STOP THIS ATTACK ON JESUS. YOU MUST DONATE TO THE KEEP
THE CHRIST IN CHRISTMAS PAC SO WE CAN SPREAD THE WORD.

EVEN MORE IMPORTANLY, YOU MUST SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL REPUBLICAN IN THE
UPCOMING PRIMARIES.

God bless,
Karl Rove
  

Ok ,  Sorry to bring this thread back to life but I was away for 
awhile.  This is just s wrong I gotta get my 2 cents in.

1) X-mas is short hand, X= Cross = Christ + mas = Christmas  I remember 
it being written this way before the word liberal was used to describe a 
strong Democrat or opposite of Conservative.
2) Just when was Christ ever in Christmas anyway?  The holiday was 
created by Catholics to convert large groups of Pagans to catholics by 
taking Pagan traditions and celebrations and calling them Christs Mass.  
They created a PHONY birthday for Christ so it would coincide (just 
after) with the winter solstice wherein these Pagan traditions 
revolved.  The whole deal is more Catholics meant more Money in the 
church and more power to convert more Catholics.

Rove is using this same ages old tactic to create more 
REPULICHRISTIANS whereby more money whereby more power to... - (this 
part scares me)

I don't care if you are Catholic and love your holiday or if you are 
anything else and love the holiday - the point is the religious right 
thinks that they have a God given agenda to stomp on anyone that 
disagrees on them and their agenda.  The sad part is, if Christ came 
back and didn't agree with them he might get put on the cross again.

In summary religion is a bigger business than oil.

Sorry I digress

Jim



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Re: [Biofuel] Your tax dollars at work

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Wait a minute. If you take Christ out of Christmas, you have "Mas" which we all know means "more" in Spanish.Obviously, this meansMORE topless "elves", video sex toys andparades of naked X-mas characters.It's all clear to me now!MikeMike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  See what I mean?Liberal! Liberal!The scary thing is that it works, though. Every time. Let's see...LIBERAL PLAN TO REMOVE THE "CHRIST" FROM CHRISTMAS AND MAKE IT "X-MAS".My fellow American, I have learned today that the Liberals in Congress are secretly plotting to take Jesus, the Christ, out of Christmas and change the holiday's name to X-mas. As we all know, X is simply shorthand for X-rated, and if these godless secular humanist
 liberals aren't stopped, soon the birthday of Christ willbecome a sex-drenched extragaganza. Your children will subjected to topless "elves", video sex toys and a parade of naked X-mas characters. ONLY YOU CAN STOP THIS ATTACK ON JESUS. YOU MUST DONATE TO THE "KEEP THE CHRIST IN CHRISTMAS PAC" SO WE CAN SPREAD THE WORD.EVEN MORE IMPORTANLY, YOU MUST SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL REPUBLICAN IN THE UPCOMING PRIMARIES.God bless,Karl Rove___
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Re: [Biofuel] Your tax dollars at work

[Fred Finch]

Too many 'Mike's' working at a better world!!

fredOn 12/2/05, Michael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wait a minute. If you take Christ out of Christmas, you have Mas which we all know means more in Spanish.Obviously, this meansMORE topless elves, video sex toys andparades of naked X-mas characters.
It's all clear to me now!MikeMike Weaver 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  See what I mean?
Liberal! Liberal!The scary thing is that it works, though. Every time. Let's see...LIBERAL PLAN TO REMOVE THE CHRIST FROM CHRISTMAS AND MAKE IT X-MAS.My fellow American, I have learned today that the Liberals in Congress 
are secretly plotting to take Jesus, the Christ, out of Christmas and change the holiday's name to X-mas. As we all know, X is simply shorthand for X-rated, and if these godless secular humanist
 liberals aren't stopped, soon the birthday of Christ willbecome a sex-drenched extragaganza. Your children will subjected to topless elves, video sex toys and a parade of naked X-mas characters. 
ONLY YOU CAN STOP THIS ATTACK ON JESUS. YOU MUST DONATE TO THE KEEP THE CHRIST IN CHRISTMAS PAC SO WE CAN SPREAD THE WORD.EVEN MORE IMPORTANLY, YOU MUST SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL REPUBLICAN IN THE 
UPCOMING PRIMARIES.God bless,Karl Rove
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Re: [Biofuel] Your tax dollars at work

[Mike Weaver]

The scary thing is, I bet I could clean this up and get people to 
believe it.

Michael Redler wrote:

 Wait a minute. If you take Christ out of Christmas, you have Mas 
 which we all know means more in Spanish.
  
 Obviously, this means MORE topless elves, video sex toys and parades 
 of naked X-mas characters.
  
 It's all clear to me now!
  
 Mike

 */Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:

 See what I mean?

 Liberal! Liberal!

 The scary thing is that it works, though. Every time. Let's see...

 LIBERAL PLAN TO REMOVE THE CHRIST FROM CHRISTMAS AND MAKE IT
 X-MAS.
 My fellow American, I have learned today that the Liberals in
 Congress
 are secretly plotting to take Jesus, the Christ, out of Christmas and
 change the holiday's name to X-mas. As we all know, X is simply
 shorthand for X-rated, and if these godless secular humanist liberals
 aren't stopped, soon the birthday of Christ will
 become a sex-drenched extragaganza. Your children will subjected to
 topless elves, video sex toys and a parade of naked X-mas
 characters.

 ONLY YOU CAN STOP THIS ATTACK ON JESUS. YOU MUST DONATE TO THE KEEP
 THE CHRIST IN CHRISTMAS PAC SO WE CAN SPREAD THE WORD.

 EVEN MORE IMPORTANLY, YOU MUST SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL REPUBLICAN IN THE
 UPCOMING PRIMARIES.

 God bless,
 Karl Rove



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Re: [Biofuel] Your tax dollars at work

[Fred Finch]

I would be willing to bet that you don't need to clean it up for some people to believe it!

You ever watch Faux Snooze?On 12/2/05, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The scary thing is, I bet I could clean this up and get people tobelieve it.Michael Redler wrote: Wait a minute. If you take Christ out of Christmas, you have Mas which we all know means more in Spanish.
 Obviously, this means MORE topless elves, video sex toys and parades of naked X-mas characters. It's all clear to me now! Mike */Mike Weaver 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: See what I mean? Liberal! Liberal! The scary thing is that it works, though. Every time. Let's see...
 LIBERAL PLAN TO REMOVE THE CHRIST FROM CHRISTMAS AND MAKE IT X-MAS. My fellow American, I have learned today that the Liberals in Congress
 are secretly plotting to take Jesus, the Christ, out of Christmas and change the holiday's name to X-mas. As we all know, X is simply shorthand for X-rated, and if these godless secular humanist liberals
 aren't stopped, soon the birthday of Christ will become a sex-drenched extragaganza. Your children will subjected to topless elves, video sex toys and a parade of naked X-mas
 characters. ONLY YOU CAN STOP THIS ATTACK ON JESUS. YOU MUST DONATE TO THE KEEP THE CHRIST IN CHRISTMAS PAC SO WE CAN SPREAD THE WORD. EVEN MORE IMPORTANLY, YOU MUST SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL REPUBLICAN IN THE
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Re: [Biofuel] Your tax dollars at work

[MH]

 The end is near,  NO more sex!! 

 Now I lie me down to sleep,
 I pray the Lord my soul to keep,
 If I die before I wake,
 God bless mommy and daddy
 and the rest of our family. 

 Why do the GOP want to sink the ship, because
 some are wanton followers  full of sheep-dip! 

 I know its baaad but its so saaad
 having seen them slide down the hump into a slump. 
 What some may need is to dole out more viagra
 to help build themselves back up. 
 Lets not forget - some like to
 bob around the old maypole
 but thats different. 

 What am I reading, Fox mews ? 


  LIBERAL PLAN TO REMOVE THE CHRIST FROM CHRISTMAS AND MAKE IT X-MAS.
  My fellow American, I have learned today that the Liberals in Congress
  are secretly plotting to take Jesus, the Christ, out of Christmas and
  change the holiday's name to X-mas. As we all know, X is simply
  shorthand for X-rated, and if these godless secular humanist liberals
  aren't stopped, soon the birthday of Christ will
  become a sex-drenched extragaganza. Your children will subjected to
  topless elves, video sex toys and a parade of naked X-mas
  characters.
 
  ONLY YOU CAN STOP THIS ATTACK ON JESUS. YOU MUST DONATE TO THE KEEP
  THE CHRIST IN CHRISTMAS PAC SO WE CAN SPREAD THE WORD.
 
  EVEN MORE IMPORTANLY, YOU MUST SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL REPUBLICAN IN THE
  UPCOMING PRIMARIES.
 
  God bless,
  Karl Rove

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Re: [Biofuel] Your tax dollars at work

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Mike,Thanks. The word is really getting out there. I've hadfriends who are non-political, asking me if I know anything about it and if it's really true.After doing some of my own research I came across somethingat www.commondreams.org. You may have already seen it.EPA Creates “Intelligence” Unit in New Reorganization Office of Children’s Health Protection Axed  http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/newsprint.cgi?file=/news2005/1103-04.htm[snip]"[Chairman Stephen] Johnson’s own role in childhood health issues was brought into stark relief during his confirmation hearings over his advocacy of using children in pesticide dosing experiments. Although Johnson cancelled one controversial study (with the anomalous acronym of CHEERS) in which parents were to be paid to spray pesticides in the room primarily occupied by their infant children, he did so in the face of threats by Democratic senators to block his confirmation. Since then, Johnson has heatedly defended CHEERS and is pushing a plan to allow children to be used in other chemical dosing experiments."[snip]  Mike  Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  *ALERT UPDATE: EPA PROPOSED RULE ALLOWS CHEMICAL AND PESTICIDE TESTING ON KIDS *Thanks to everyone who responded to the OCA Alert in the last issue of Organic Bytes. So far, the EPA has been deluged with over 20,000 comments from OCA supporters demanding changes in the EPA's controversial proposed rule on human chemical testing, which contains loopholes that would allow the testing of chemicals and pesticides on children. EPA's proposal flies in the face of massive public opposition and directives from Congress and the National Academy of Sciences to stop industry from carrying out unethical studies on children. In the wake of this strong citizen backlash, the EPA is frantically trying to discredit the OCA and other organizations working on this issue (such as the Natural Resources Defense Council, the Center for Health and Environmental Justice, and Public Employees for Environmental
 Responsibility, etc.) by flat out denying that the proposed rule contains exceptions for testing toxics on children. Unfortunately for the EPA PR greenwashing efforts, the actual proposed rule is still posted on the EPA website , where the public can look beyond the agency's rhetoric and read the rule themselves. We invite you to read these sections of the proposed regulations, which allow chemical or pesticide testing on children under the following circumstances:1. Children who "cannot be reasonably consulted," such as those thatare mentally handicapped or orphaned newborns may be tested on.With permission from the institution or guardian in charge of theindividual, the child may be exposed to chemicals for the sake ofresearch.2. Parental consent forms are not necessary for testing on childrenwho have been neglected or abused.3. Chemical
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Re: [Biofuel] Your tax dollars at work

[Joe Street]

Mike;

Please tell me this is an early April fools joke (in really bad taste)
or an urban legend right?
You can't be serious about this.

Joe

Michael Redler wrote:

  
  
  
  
  
  
  Mike,
  
  Thanks. The word is really getting out there. I've hadfriends
who are non-political, asking me if I know anything about it and if
it's really true.
  
  After doing some of my own research I came across somethingat www.commondreams.org. You may
have already seen it.
  
  EPA Creates Intelligence Unit in New
Reorganization 
  Office of Childrens Health Protection Axed
  http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/newsprint.cgi?file=/news2005/1103-04.htm
  
  [snip]
  
  "[Chairman Stephen] Johnsons own role in childhood health
issues was brought into stark relief during his confirmation hearings
over his advocacy of using children in pesticide dosing experiments.
Although Johnson cancelled one controversial study (with the anomalous
acronym of CHEERS) in which parents were to be paid to spray pesticides
in the room primarily occupied by their infant children, he did so in
the face of threats by Democratic senators to block his confirmation.
Since then, Johnson has heatedly defended CHEERS and is pushing a plan
to allow children to be used in other chemical dosing experiments."
  
  [snip]
  
Mike
  
  Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  *ALERT
UPDATE: EPA PROPOSED RULE ALLOWS CHEMICAL AND PESTICIDE TESTING 
ON KIDS *
Thanks to everyone who responded to the OCA Alert in the last issue of 
Organic Bytes. So far, the EPA has been deluged with over 20,000 
comments from OCA supporters demanding changes in the EPA's 
controversial proposed rule on human chemical testing, which contains 
loopholes that would allow the testing of chemicals and pesticides on 
children. EPA's proposal flies in the face of massive public opposition

and directives from Congress and the National Academy of Sciences to 
stop industry from carrying out unethical studies on children. In the 
wake of this strong citizen backlash, the EPA is frantically trying to 
discredit the OCA and other organizations working on this issue (such
as 
the Natural Resources Defense Council, the Center for Health and 
Environmental Justice, and Public Employees for Environmental 
Responsibility, etc.) by flat out denying that the proposed rule 
contains exceptions for testing toxics on children. Unfortunately for 
the EPA PR greenwashing efforts, the actual proposed rule is still 
posted on the EPA website 
, 
where the public can look beyond the agency's rhetoric and read the
rule 
themselves. We invite you to read these sections of the proposed 
regulations, which allow chemical or pesticide testing on children
under 
the following circumstances:

1. Children who "cannot be reasonably consulted," such as those that
are mentally handicapped or orphaned newborns may be tested on.
With permission from the institution or guardian in charge of the
individual, the child may be exposed to chemicals for the sake of
research.
2. Parental consent forms are not necessary for testing on children
who have been neglected or abused.
3. Chemical studies on any children outside of the U.S. are acceptable.

If you haven't already done so please learn more and send an instant 
letter to the EPA here (public comment period expires Dec.12) 
http://www.organicconsumers.org/epa6.cfm


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Re: [Biofuel] Your tax dollars at work

[Michael Redler]

...but wait, there's more!The list of people in the administration who are threatening the health and welfare ofpeoplein and out of the country is proving to be disturbing.Stephen Johnsonhttp://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/newsprint.cgi?file=/news2005/1103-04.htmJohnNegroponte  http://www.baltimoresun.com/bal-negroponte4,0,2380703.storyMichael Brown  http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/11/03/brown.fema.emails/Karl, Dick and "Scooter"  http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/28/leak.probe/  "Rummy" (small sample)  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2973564.stm"Dubya" (small sample)  http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/11/06/MNGS82R8101.DTLMichael Chertoff (suspicious)  http://www.isreview.org/issues/43/minutemen.shtmlThe good news is that (IMO) the internet allows us to be much more aware and educated, making the job of the spin doctors significantly more difficult.I'm keeping the faith. 
   MikeJoe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Mike;Please tell me this is an early April fools joke (in really bad taste) or an urban legend right?You can't be serious about this.JoeMichael Redler wrote:Mike,Thanks. The word is really getting out there. I've hadfriends who are non-political, asking me if I know anything about it and if it's really true.After doing some of my own research I came across somethingat www.commondreams.org. You may have
 already seen it.EPA Creates “Intelligence” Unit in New Reorganization Office of Children’s Health Protection Axed  http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/newsprint.cgi?file=/news2005/1103-04.htm[snip]"[Chairman Stephen] Johnson’s own role in childhood health issues was brought into stark relief during his confirmation hearings over his advocacy of using children in pesticide dosing experiments. Although Johnson cancelled one controversial study (with the anomalous acronym of CHEERS) in which parents were to be paid to spray pesticides in the room primarily occupied by their infant children, he did so in the face of threats by Democratic senators to block his
 confirmation. Since then, Johnson has heatedly defended CHEERS and is pushing a plan to allow children to be used in other chemical dosing experiments."[snip]  Mike___
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Re: [Biofuel] Your tax dollars at work

[Mike Weaver]

No. It's true, sad to say. Look it up. The spirit of the Tuskegee 
experiments lives on today.

If you haven't already done so please learn more and send an instant 
letter to the EPA here (public comment period expires Dec.12) 
http://www.organicconsumers.org/epa6.cfm

Joe Street wrote:

 Mike;

 Please tell me this is an early April fools joke (in really bad taste) 
 or an urban legend right?
 You can't be serious about this.

 Joe

 Michael Redler wrote:

 Mike,
 Thanks. The word is really getting out there. I've had friends who 
 are non-political, asking me if I know anything about it and if it's 
 really true.
 After doing some of my own research I came across something at 
 www.commondreams.org http://www.commondreams.org/. You may have 
 already seen it.
 *EPA Creates “Intelligence” Unit in New Reorganization
 Office of Children’s Health Protection Axed*
 http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/newsprint.cgi?file=/news2005/1103-04.htm
 [snip]
 [Chairman Stephen] Johnson’s own role in childhood health issues was 
 brought into stark relief during his confirmation hearings over his 
 advocacy of using children in pesticide dosing experiments. Although 
 Johnson cancelled one controversial study (with the anomalous acronym 
 of CHEERS) in which parents were to be paid to spray pesticides in 
 the room primarily occupied by their infant children, he did so in 
 the face of threats by Democratic senators to block his confirmation. 
 Since then, Johnson has heatedly defended CHEERS and is pushing a 
 plan to allow children to be used in other chemical dosing experiments.
 [snip]

 Mike

 */Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:

 *ALERT UPDATE: EPA PROPOSED RULE ALLOWS CHEMICAL AND PESTICIDE
 TESTING
 ON KIDS *
 Thanks to everyone who responded to the OCA Alert in the last
 issue of
 Organic Bytes. So far, the EPA has been deluged with over 20,000
 comments from OCA supporters demanding changes in the EPA's
 controversial proposed rule on human chemical testing, which
 contains
 loopholes that would allow the testing of chemicals and
 pesticides on
 children. EPA's proposal flies in the face of massive public
 opposition
 and directives from Congress and the National Academy of Sciences to
 stop industry from carrying out unethical studies on children. In
 the
 wake of this strong citizen backlash, the EPA is frantically
 trying to
 discredit the OCA and other organizations working on this issue
 (such as
 the Natural Resources Defense Council, the Center for Health and
 Environmental Justice, and Public Employees for Environmental
 Responsibility, etc.) by flat out denying that the proposed rule
 contains exceptions for testing toxics on children. Unfortunately
 for
 the EPA PR greenwashing efforts, the actual proposed rule is still
 posted on the EPA website
 ,
 where the public can look beyond the agency's rhetoric and read
 the rule
 themselves. We invite you to read these sections of the proposed
 regulations, which allow chemical or pesticide testing on
 children under
 the following circumstances:

 1. Children who cannot be reasonably consulted, such as those that
 are mentally handicapped or orphaned newborns may be tested on.
 With permission from the institution or guardian in charge of the
 individual, the child may be exposed to chemicals for the sake of
 research.
 2. Parental consent forms are not necessary for testing on children
 who have been neglected or abused.
 3. Chemical studies on any children outside of the U.S. are
 acceptable.

 If you haven't already done so please learn more and send an instant
 letter to the EPA here (public comment period expires Dec.12)
 http://www.organicconsumers.org/epa6.cfm


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Re: [Biofuel] Your tax dollars at work

[Mike Weaver]

Freedom hater.
You're just helping the terrorist.
Besides, all this doesn't really matter, what matters is GAY MARRIAGE! 
No, wait. I meant what really matters is, uh, the Liberals want to ban 
prayer in schools!
So if you don't vote for the Republican party, you're voting God out of 
your children's lives.

-The Republicans


Michael Redler wrote:

 ...but wait, there's more!
 The list of people in the administration who are threatening the 
 health and welfare of people in and out of the country is proving to 
 be disturbing.
 Stephen Johnson
 http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/newsprint.cgi?file=/news2005/1103-04.htm
 John Negroponte
 http://www.baltimoresun.com/bal-negroponte4,0,2380703.story
 Michael Brown
 http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/11/03/brown.fema.emails/
 Karl, Dick and Scooter
 http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/28/leak.probe/
 Rummy (small sample)
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2973564.stm
 Dubya (small sample)
 http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/11/06/MNGS82R8101.DTL
 Michael Chertoff (suspicious)
 http://www.isreview.org/issues/43/minutemen.shtml
 The good news is that (IMO) the internet allows us to be much more 
 aware and educated, making the job of the spin doctors significantly 
 more difficult.
 I'm keeping the faith.
 Mike

 */Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:

 Mike;

 Please tell me this is an early April fools joke (in really bad
 taste) or an urban legend right?
 You can't be serious about this.

 Joe

 Michael Redler wrote:

 Mike,
 Thanks. The word is really getting out there. I've had friends
 who are non-political, asking me if I know anything about it and
 if it's really true.
 After doing some of my own research I came across something at
 www.commondreams.org http://www.commondreams.org/. You may have
 already seen it.
 *EPA Creates “Intelligence” Unit in New Reorganization
 Office of Children’s Health Protection Axed*
 
 http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/newsprint.cgi?file=/news2005/1103-04.htm
 [snip]
 [Chairman Stephen] Johnson’s own role in childhood health issues
 was brought into stark relief during his confirmation hearings
 over his advocacy of using children in pesticide dosing
 experiments. Although Johnson cancelled one controversial study
 (with the anomalous acronym of CHEERS) in which parents were to
 be paid to spray pesticides in the room primarily occupied by
 their infant children, he did so in the face of threats by
 Democratic senators to block his confirmation. Since then,
 Johnson has heatedly defended CHEERS and is pushing a plan to
 allow children to be used in other chemical dosing experiments.
 [snip]

 Mike



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Re: [Biofuel] Your tax dollars at work

[Fred Finch]

Actually we want to ban Christmas!!

No more use of the words Merry Christmas!

And sex!! Lots of sex!! And everywhere...

Whoops, there is that little disorderly personality problem creeping up again!!

Sorry about that, 

fred



On 12/1/05, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Freedom hater.You're just helping the terrorist.Besides, all this doesn't really matter, what matters is GAY MARRIAGE!No, wait. I meant what really matters is, uh, the Liberals want to banprayer in schools!
So if you don't vote for the Republican party, you're voting God out ofyour children's lives.-The RepublicansMichael Redler wrote: ...but wait, there's more! The list of people in the administration who are threatening the
 health and welfare of people in and out of the country is proving to be disturbing. Stephen Johnson http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/newsprint.cgi?file=/news2005/1103-04.htm
 John Negroponte http://www.baltimoresun.com/bal-negroponte4,0,2380703.story Michael Brown 
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/11/03/brown.fema.emails/ Karl, Dick and Scooter http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/28/leak.probe/
 Rummy (small sample) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2973564.stm Dubya (small sample) 
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/11/06/MNGS82R8101.DTL Michael Chertoff (suspicious) http://www.isreview.org/issues/43/minutemen.shtml
 The good news is that (IMO) the internet allows us to be much more aware and educated, making the job of the spin doctors significantly more difficult. I'm keeping the faith. Mike
 */Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Mike; Please tell me this is an early April fools joke (in really bad
 taste) or an urban legend right? You can't be serious about this. Joe Michael Redler wrote: Mike, Thanks. The word is really getting out there. I've had friends
 who are non-political, asking me if I know anything about it and if it's really true. After doing some of my own research I came across something at 
www.commondreams.org http://www.commondreams.org/. You may have already seen it. *EPA Creates "Intelligence" Unit in New Reorganization
 Office of Children's Health Protection Axed* http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/newsprint.cgi?file=/news2005/1103-04.htm
 [snip] [Chairman Stephen] Johnson's own role in childhood health issues was brought into stark relief during his confirmation hearings over his advocacy of using children in pesticide dosing
 experiments. Although Johnson cancelled one controversial study (with the anomalous acronym of CHEERS) in which parents were to be paid to spray pesticides in the room primarily occupied by
 their infant children, he did so in the face of threats by Democratic senators to block his confirmation. Since then, Johnson has heatedly defended CHEERS and is pushing a plan to
 allow children to be used in other chemical dosing experiments. [snip] Mike
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Re: [Biofuel] Your tax dollars at work

[Mike Weaver]

See what I mean?

Liberal! Liberal!

The scary thing is that it works, though.  Every time.  Let's see...

LIBERAL PLAN TO REMOVE THE CHRIST FROM CHRISTMAS AND MAKE IT X-MAS.
My fellow American, I have learned today that the Liberals in Congress 
are secretly plotting to take Jesus, the Christ, out of Christmas and 
change the holiday's name to X-mas.  As we all know, X is simply 
shorthand for X-rated, and if these godless secular humanist liberals 
aren't stopped, soon the birthday of Christ will
become a sex-drenched extragaganza.  Your children will subjected to 
topless elves, video sex toys and a parade of naked X-mas characters. 

ONLY YOU CAN STOP THIS ATTACK ON JESUS.  YOU MUST DONATE TO THE KEEP 
THE CHRIST IN CHRISTMAS PAC SO WE CAN SPREAD THE WORD.

EVEN MORE IMPORTANLY, YOU MUST SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL REPUBLICAN IN THE 
UPCOMING PRIMARIES.

God bless,
Karl Rove



Fred Finch wrote:

 Actually we want to ban Christmas!!

 No more use of the words Merry Christmas!

 And sex!!  Lots of sex!!  And everywhere...

 Whoops, there is that little disorderly personality problem creeping 
 up again!!

 Sorry about that,

 fred



  

 On 12/1/05, *Mike Weaver* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Freedom hater.
 You're just helping the terrorist.
 Besides, all this doesn't really matter, what matters is GAY MARRIAGE!
 No, wait. I meant what really matters is, uh, the Liberals want to ban
 prayer in schools!
 So if you don't vote for the Republican party, you're voting God
 out of
 your children's lives.

 -The Republicans


 Michael Redler wrote:

  ...but wait, there's more!
  The list of people in the administration who are threatening the
  health and welfare of people in and out of the country is proving to
  be disturbing.
  Stephen Johnson
 
 
 http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/newsprint.cgi?file=/news2005/1103-04.htm
 
 http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/newsprint.cgi?file=/news2005/1103-04.htm
  John Negroponte
  http://www.baltimoresun.com/bal-negroponte4,0,2380703.story
  Michael Brown
  http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/11/03/brown.fema.emails/
  Karl, Dick and Scooter
  http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/28/leak.probe/
  Rummy (small sample)
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2973564.stm
  Dubya (small sample)
 
 
 http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/11/06/MNGS82R8101.DTL
  Michael Chertoff (suspicious)
  http://www.isreview.org/issues/43/minutemen.shtml
 http://www.isreview.org/issues/43/minutemen.shtml
  The good news is that (IMO) the internet allows us to be much more
  aware and educated, making the job of the spin doctors significantly
  more difficult.
  I'm keeping the faith.
  Mike
 
  */Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:
 
  Mike;
 
  Please tell me this is an early April fools joke (in really bad
  taste) or an urban legend right?
  You can't be serious about this.
 
  Joe
 
  Michael Redler wrote:
 
  Mike,
  Thanks. The word is really getting out there. I've had friends
  who are non-political, asking me if I know anything about
 it and
  if it's really true.
  After doing some of my own research I came across something at
  www.commondreams.org http://www.commondreams.org
 http://www.commondreams.org/. You may have
  already seen it.
  *EPA Creates Intelligence Unit in New Reorganization
  Office of Children's Health Protection Axed*
 
 
 http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/newsprint.cgi?file=/news2005/1103-04.htm
 
 http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/newsprint.cgi?file=/news2005/1103-04.htm
  [snip]
  [Chairman Stephen] Johnson's own role in childhood health
 issues
  was brought into stark relief during his confirmation hearings
  over his advocacy of using children in pesticide dosing
  experiments. Although Johnson cancelled one controversial study
  (with the anomalous acronym of CHEERS) in which parents were to
  be paid to spray pesticides in the room primarily occupied by
  their infant children, he did so in the face of threats by
  Democratic senators to block his confirmation. Since then,
  Johnson has heatedly defended CHEERS and is pushing a plan to
  allow children to be used in other chemical dosing
 experiments.
  [snip]
 
  Mike
 
 

 
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