Re: [biofuel] Ethanol Fixing Old Cars

2003-12-23 Thread csakima

As I understand, the technical octane rating of Methanol and Ethanol are
comparable.  But then again, my alcohol real-life experience is limited.
Though my instincts tell me that if the Max compression ratio of Meth and
Eth are different  it's probably because the Methanol fuel mixture is so
much more loaded with fuel.  Causing more cooling in the intake fuel
mixture.  Making it more resistant to detonation.   Again though, this is
only my guess.

BTW, I never intended to say that a Methanol and Ethanol engine would be
identical.   I was only trying to say that, for ethanol-engine-running
info ... that articles on racing-alcohol (methanol)  would be a pretty
good place to start.   Sorry if it mislead anyone.

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But you can run 15:1 compression on methanol, and you really don't want to
run ethanol any higher that about 12:1, IIRC.  Please correct me if  I'm
wrong on that.




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Re: [biofuel] Ethanol Fixing Old Cars

2003-12-22 Thread Alan Petrillo

csakima wrote:

 Ethanol usually is run in a spark-ignition type engine.   The type that
 stock runs gasoline.
 
 Modifications include  changing the fuel-handling components to pass
 ethanol without dissolving (since ethanol is a different type of solvent
 than gas)  richening the fuel mixture to accomadate ethanol's ideal
 air-fuel mixture requirements. changing the ignition timing curve to
 match ethanol's different flame speed.
 
 If you're a hotrodder, the changes are similar to converting an engine to
 running on Methanol (aka racing alcohol)

But you can run 15:1 compression on methanol, and you really don't want 
to run ethanol any higher that about 12:1, IIRC.  Please correct me if 
I'm wrong on that.


AP


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Re: [biofuel] Ethanol Fixing Old Cars

2003-12-21 Thread csakima

Ethanol usually is run in a spark-ignition type engine.   The type that
stock runs gasoline.

Modifications include  changing the fuel-handling components to pass
ethanol without dissolving (since ethanol is a different type of solvent
than gas)  richening the fuel mixture to accomadate ethanol's ideal
air-fuel mixture requirements. changing the ignition timing curve to
match ethanol's different flame speed.

If you're a hotrodder, the changes are similar to converting an engine to
running on Methanol (aka racing alcohol)

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Is this true!?

All we have to do is fix a bunch of old cars and we can have all of the
ethanol running vehicles our society could ever desire?

What kind of an engine are we talking about? Gasoline? Diesel? Any
modifications?




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