Walt Patrick: Re: [biofuel] waste to energy on an industrial scale

2004-05-23 Thread Keith Addison

--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Walt Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 03:12 PM 5/22/04 +, you wrote:
 Turning Waste to methanol,pig iron  glass slag:
 
 The High Temperature Waste Conversion Plant
 
 
  A renowned German manufacturer in the waste disposal market has
 developed a process which converts organic and inorganic waste into
 valuable material.

Sure sounds like Carbide's PurOx process. Anything new here?

Walt
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Re: [biofuel] waste to energy on an industrial scale

2004-05-23 Thread murdoch

you may see some German media footage of the plant operating on our 
website www.untechservices.com/products

I was unable to get your link to work.


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Re: [biofuel] Waste of energy

2002-05-01 Thread Ken Provost

Using a still to obtain ethyl alcohol as fuel takes a lot of energy.
You need to bring almost to boil ten gallons of liquid to obtain one
gallon of alcohol. There are some sugars in the cooked mash that are
not converted to alcohol and will be discarted. Some one knows a more
efficient method?.

Don't know what yeasts you're using, but I can get at least 18% alcohol
by volume with Gerd Strand's TurboYeast from Sweden. Use a solar still
to feed a 4-ft fractionating column and you can easily get 95% ethanol
with NO energy expenditure.

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Re: [biofuel] Waste of energy

2002-05-01 Thread Harmon Seaver

 Well, you could always use a solar still, and have free energy. And why
would you discard the mash? That's pretty wasteful. You should be measuring the
sugar content with a sacrometer in the first place so you don't put more in than
will be converted. And then the spent mash is either fed directly to hogs or
cattle or dried to sell. 


On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 06:51:52PM -, on7tim7 wrote:
 Using a still to obtain ethyl alcohol as fuel takes a lot of energy. 
 You need to bring almost to boil ten gallons of liquid to obtain one 
 gallon of alcohol. There are some sugars in the cooked mash that are 
 not converted to alcohol and will be discarted. Some one knows a more 
 efficient method?.
 
 
 
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