[svg-developers] Re: Converting maps into SVG
I don't know with what maps you have to deal - but if the map is actively maintained than chances are high that the underlying vector data is available. If you can contact the map author, I would do so. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, John C. Turnbull ozem...@... wrote: What tools would I need to use to convert paper maps into SVG files? What's the most efficient way to go about the task of converting a large number of maps? Thanks, -JCT [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: displaying svg on IE after 12-31-08
they simply do not have an interest in SVG at all - other than perhaps selling more authoring tools for SVG developers. The situation before or after 2008-12-31 is more or less the same. Before and after there was no support and further development. Development more or less stopped back in 2001. Before they maybe would have reacted to security related problems in ASV, after they do not care at all. People simply should forget about Adobe in terms of SVG support. With the buy of Macromedia, management within Adobe changed a lot and they see their future in binary only, proprietary formats. They don't believe in the open nature of the web. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Fuliopen fulio...@... wrote: I still have a question. Why does Adobe discontinue its support for SVG? Is maintenance of the plug-in too expensive, or SVG is defective? Thanks. fulio pen From: Andreas Neumann a.neum...@... To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 1, 2009 9:48:50 AM Subject: [svg-developers] Re: displaying svg on IE after 12-31-08 luckily, IE is rapidly loosing marketshare: worlwide: 68% - http://marketshare. hitslink. com/browser- market- share.aspx?qprid= 1 in Europe: much lower: http://derstandard. at/?url=/ ?id=122997528941 6 (a well-known austrian newspaper - IE is below 50%) http://www.heise. de/newsticker/ Marktanteil- von-Firefox- kratzt- an- der-20-Prozent- Marke--/zoom/ 109877/0 - a well-known computer magazine: IE is below 25% In general the IE marketshare in Europe is much lower than in the US and the rest of the world. Andreas --- In svg-developers@ yahoogroups. com, Fuliopen fuliopen@ . wrote: Hello, Majority of visitors to my web site are still using the IE browser. I ask them to download the ASV to their computers. I like to know that after 2008, is the ASV still available for downloading? If not, what other technologies I can switch to? Thanks for information in this regard. fulio pen [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: displaying svg on IE after 12-31-08
luckily, IE is rapidly loosing marketshare: worlwide: 68% - http://marketshare.hitslink.com/browser-market- share.aspx?qprid=1 in Europe: much lower: http://derstandard.at/?url=/?id=1229975289416 (a well-known austrian newspaper - IE is below 50%) http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Marktanteil-von-Firefox-kratzt-an- der-20-Prozent-Marke--/zoom/109877/0 - a well-known computer magazine: IE is below 25% In general the IE marketshare in Europe is much lower than in the US and the rest of the world. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Fuliopen fulio...@... wrote: Hello, Majority of visitors to my web site are still using the IE browser. I ask them to download the ASV to their computers. I like to know that after 2008, is the ASV still available for downloading? If not, what other technologies I can switch to? Thanks for information in this regard. fulio pen [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] SVG Open 2009 in the USA
Hi all, I just wanted to let you know about the upcoming SVG Open. The plan is to have the SVG Open 2009 in the US. Unfortunately we haven't yet made a final decision, but we have three candidate locations (2 on the east coast and one on the east coast). The date will be in the autumn of 2009, not yet decided since we do not have a definite location. Please apologize for the delay in organizing SVG Open 2009. We do our best to have a definite location, a call for papers and first information in January. Thanks and happy holidays! Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Safari 3.2.1 with ASV 3.0 won't View Source
yes, it is also my impression that some things are better and some are worse. But Webkit is under active development while ASV is dead. Also, all in all, performance in Webkit and browser integration is good. I agree that there are still some bugs. I encourage you to report the bugs at https://bugs.webkit.org/ Webkit is also important since it is also used in Google Chrome, iPhone, Konqueror, Adobe Air (I think they deactivated SVG on purpose) and other browsers/devices. Thanks, Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Kenneth Nellis nelli...@... wrote: Thanx, Andreas. I did download and play with the latest nightly WebKit build. My few SMIL things worked fine and so does View Source! Compared with ASV3, certain other things work better and certain other things work worse. I seem to have a text problem, that may be my own problem, but it works fine with ASV3 and Firefox3, so I had assumed I had coded it correctly. Ken On Dec 18, 2008, at 11:48 AM, svg-developers@yahoogroups.com wrote: Re: Safari 3.2.1 with ASV 3.0 won't View Source Posted by: Andreas Neumann a.neum...@... neumannandreas Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:02 pm (PST) Hi Ken, It is true that the regular Safari release doesn't do SMIL yet. However, the Webkit nightlies (the base of future Safari versions) already does SMIL. It is not yet fully complete and tested (this is what the nightlies are for) but it is pretty good already. I invite you to download a webkit nightly from http:// nightly.webkit.org/ and test it to see if your SMIL examples work. You can report bugs if it doesn't. You can easily install Webkit in parallel with other webkits or Safari versions so you don't loose your official Safari release. Hope this helps, Andreas [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Safari 3.2.1 with ASV 3.0 won't View Source
Hi Ken, It is true that the regular Safari release doesn't do SMIL yet. However, the Webkit nightlies (the base of future Safari versions) already does SMIL. It is not yet fully complete and tested (this is what the nightlies are for) but it is pretty good already. I invite you to download a webkit nightly from http:// nightly.webkit.org/ and test it to see if your SMIL examples work. You can report bugs if it doesn't. You can easily install Webkit in parallel with other webkits or Safari versions so you don't loose your official Safari release. Hope this helps, Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Kenneth Nellis nelli...@... wrote: In my experiment, I removed ASV and then relaunched Safari to see what worked. SMIL didn't. I reinstalled ASV and SMIL worked again. So, I conclude that Safari doesn't do SMIL. Or is something else going on Ken Nellis On Dec 16, 2008, at 1:09 PM, svg-developers@yahoogroups.com wrote: hm - why do you want to use ASV with Safari? Safari (Webkit) can do SVG natively. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Kenneth Nellis nellisks@ wrote: Since I've updated to Safari 3.2.1 (Macintosh), I can no longer see SVG source through the context-sensitive menu option View Source. I'm using the ASV 3.0 plugin. The menu option is there, but is no longer functional. Wondering if anyone else has this problem. As a workaround, I can select Copy SVG, and then paste the results into a text editor. Ken Nellis [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Safari 3.2.1 with ASV 3.0 won't View Source
hm - why do you want to use ASV with Safari? Safari (Webkit) can do SVG natively. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Kenneth Nellis nelli...@... wrote: Since I've updated to Safari 3.2.1 (Macintosh), I can no longer see SVG source through the context-sensitive menu option View Source. I'm using the ASV 3.0 plugin. The menu option is there, but is no longer functional. Wondering if anyone else has this problem. As a workaround, I can select Copy SVG, and then paste the results into a text editor. Ken Nellis - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Testing SMIL in Minefield
According to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=216462 there should be SMIL enabled Firefox/Minefield builds around. However, I can't get SMIL to work. I wonder if anyone on this list could explain which builds contain SMIL support and how I activate it - I assume in about:config somehow? Thanks a lot, Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Testing SMIL in Minefield
However, I can't get SMIL to work. I wonder if anyone on this list could explain which builds contain SMIL support and how I activate it - I assume in about:config somehow? You really need to build it yourself at the moment. I don't think it needs activating beyond that. hm - I don't know if I'll go that route ... do you know when regular builds with SMIL support will be available? maybe I'll build it myself some time, but currently I am too busy to do that. I guess it takes quite some time to build Firefox myself. From the discussion I thought that somehow SMIL was already compiled in but needs to be manually activated in about:config Thanks anyway, Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Use of SVG for map production in map.search.ch
Some information for GIS/carto people: map.search.ch is the biggest mapping website in Switzerland, with more users than Google-maps Switzerland. Approx. 3-4 million out of 7 million people in Switzerland are using map.search.ch. One of its nice features is its integration of public transport information and up-to-date point of interest information. Yesterday at a GIS meeting I learned that it uses SVG and CSS for map- production, for symbolizing the GIS data and for label-placement. SVG is not sent to the browsers due to a lack of SVG support in IE, but it is used as an intermediate format before being converted to raster tiles. I think it is interesting to know that SVG is often used behind-the-scenes at places one wouldn't expect. Another interesting fact is that like many other internet-companies, the company behind map.search.ch prefers open source software and self-developed software over commercial GIS offerings, simply because of scalability, licencing and being-in-control of everything issues. Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: How to convert TTF Fonts to SVG
Hi, there is a very powerful (but not very pretty) open source font editor available at http://fontforge.sourceforge.net/ Among many other formats it also supports SVG fonts and even generates the kerning tables. It works fine on Mac and Linux but is a bit complicated to install on Windows, since it requires X11. Hope this helps, Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, caio ariede [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Bjoern. Yes, I found other problems. Firefox doesn't support SVG Fonts and the image viewer that I'm using doesn't support too. I changed the code, and now I'm using glyph tags and could get it working (viewing in Opera browser that support SVG Fonts). Thank you. On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Bjoern Hoehrmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: * caio ariede wrote: I'm starting with SVG and trying to convert an TTF font to SVG. I converted it with ttf2svg tool, but it not appears correct. The font converted is: http://caioariede.com/svg/testesvg/ myfont.svg That only includes the digits 0-9, not any letters. There may be other problems aswell, but that's the most obvious. -- Björn Höhrmann · mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] bjoern%40hoehrmann.de · http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de Am Badedeich 7 · Telefon: +49(0)160/4415681 · http:// www.bjoernsworld.de 25899 Dagebüll · PGP Pub. KeyID: 0xA4357E78 · http:// www.websitedev.de/ -- Caio Ariede http://caioariede.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: svg on webserver
yes, it is almost certainly a mime-type issue: see http://wiki.svg.org/MIME_Type for additional infos. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, veiko herne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you configured the server mimetype for SVG (SVGZ) files? Veiko http://veikoh.wordpress.com --- On Mon, 11/17/08, Kristien Ooms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kristien Ooms [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [svg-developers] Re: svg on webserver To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 11:05 AM Thanks for the answer, but it didn't work. I can load svg-files from other servers without a problem, but not those on my server. I colleague told me I have to adjust some settings on the server. Does anybody have any experience with that? (btw it's a WAMP-server: windows,Apache,mysql and php) Thanks! * Kristien Ooms Ghent University Department of Geography CartoGIS Cluster Krijgslaan 281 (S8), B.2.72 B-9000 Ghent (Belgium) Tel: +32 (0)9 264 46 36 Fax: +32 (0)9 264 49 85 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geoweb.ugent.be/ * From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Samuel Dagan Sent: zaterdag 15 november 2008 13:35 To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [svg-developers] Re: svg on webserver Hi Kristien, It could be due to the Activex problem of MS. Try the following: In IE open Tools and choose: Internet Options, Advanced, Security. If Allow active content to run on My Computer is marked, click to remove the mark, choose: Apply, OK, and restart IE. If I am right you'll be able to open the external file, but that way you won't be able to see svg files locally. You can always reverse the configuration. Cheers, Samy --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com mailto:svg-developers%40yahoogroups.com , Kristien Ooms kristien.ooms@ wrote: Hi all, I have some svg-file which work fine when I open them locally from my computer in IE. However, when I place them on a web server, I can't open them anymore in IE. It's not a problem in FireFox, only in IE. Here is an example of a demo-file I placed on the webserver: http://cartogis.ugent.be/kooms/studie/reactionTime/SVG/text.svg Does anybode know why this isn't working? Any help is appreciated. Kristien [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: A full SVG 1.1 spec editor
Hi, there is no SVG editor available that supports all features of SVG 1.1 full. Usually you have to work in combinations of a static graphical editor (e.g. inkscape, Corel or Illustrator) and animation editor (e.g. the Inkscape animator), a text or XML editor and font-tools, such as fontforge. Hope this helps, Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, caio ariede [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm searching any editor that support full SVG 1.1 spec, including SVG Fonts and/or glyphs. I tried Inkscape and Sodipodi, but both didn't opened glyphs. If anyone knows any editor that support this, or a SVG-to-PNG converter. I tried some converters (rsvg, apache batik, but seems doesn't support glyphs too). I'm googlin' here, but without results yet. Thanks in advance. -- Caio Ariede http://caioariede.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: new SVG Editor
hm - I don't see anything - except an empty box saying Plugin content Is this built on some browser plugin not available on my computer? Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Tiago Cardoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, We at inEvo (http://inevo.pt) are developing a SVG framework for actionscript. This framework allow us to create Rich Internet Applications to create or maipulate SVG drawing and elements. Applications to create top-view interior designs and also Bars, concerts and events planners are some of the possibilities. Meanwhile, we are doing a SVG Editor. The first preview is available at http://blog.tiagocardoso.eu/mainada/comics-sketch/2008/11/02/svg- editor-preview/ I'll be posting a live demo of it soon on the same blog. This would be useful to create SVG code quickly without resourcing to heavy applications like inkscape, so you can test on your own SVG applications. Could you send any feedback regarding this preview and any opinions ? Thanks to all of you. Best regards, Tiago Cardoso [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: new SVG Editor
ah - thanks. I need to view it at my home computer then. Our IT people don't allow the installation of browser plugins. Will have a look at it at home then. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Tiago Cardoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's just a flash video from vimeo. Try to install Flash player 9. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Validating Compound or WICD documents
Thank you Christophe and David for your explanations. OxygenXML seems to work find with the XHTML/SVG/MathML DTD provided at http://www.w3.org/TR/XHTMLplusMathMLplusSVG/ As explained, I used this doctype: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1 plus MathML 2.0 plus SVG 1.1//EN http://www.w3.org/2002/04/xhtml-math-svg/xhtml-math-svg.dtd; Thanks again, Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, David Leunen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Andreas, If I have a compound document (e.g. XHTML, SVG, MathML) - how can I validate these documents properly. For this particular example, I thought that's what the XHTML+MathML+SVG profile was for : http://www.w3.org/TR/XHTMLplusMathMLplusSVG/ Is there a RelaxNG available to cover all these vocabularies in a single document? My preferred XML environment is currently OxygenXML - I wonder if there are tools either within Oxygen or outside (could also be commandline) that allow me to validate such documents. I'm afraid I don't know any RelaxNG schema for this, but the aforementioned profile provides a DTD. The W3C validator support the profile : http://validator.w3.org/#validate_by_uri+with_options And I'm sure OxygenXML or any other decent xml editor has a way to validate a document upon a DTD. If you need more advanced validation, you can always convert the DTD to another schema language (relaxng, ...) and extend it. For other types of combinations, you'll have to write the combined profile yourself, or look for it on internet. cheers David - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: SVG Horizontal scroll
http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/gui/scrollbar/ with an example http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/gui/scrollbar/index.svg Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, pcr_reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All Please Can any one help me to implement Horizontal scroll in svg. Vertical scroll is working fine by using VertSB.js file(implemted by Peter Sorotokin). Thanks and regards P.Chandra Shaker Reddy - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Validating Compound or WICD documents
Hi, This is a question towards the multinamespace experts: If I have a compound document (e.g. XHTML, SVG, MathML) - how can I validate these documents properly. Is there a RelaxNG available to cover all these vocabularies in a single document? My preferred XML environment is currently OxygenXML - I wonder if there are tools either within Oxygen or outside (could also be commandline) that allow me to validate such documents. Thanks, Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Dutch 5-Euro coin designed with free software
This is a little off-topic - not directly related to SVG - but I liked it: the dutch ministry of finance did a coin-design competition and the winning coin design was completely done with free software: ubuntu, python, inkscape, gimp, etc. See the full story at http://pythonide.blogspot.com/2008/10/how-to-make-money-with-free-software.html Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: other things you might not have the time for
Hi David, not sure I fully understand your requirement. Are you looking for a progressive drawing of a path geometry? If yes, you can do this by animating the stroke-dash of a path. Here are 2 examples: http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/samples/animated_bustrack.shtml and http://pilat.free.fr/english/animer/france.htm Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, ddailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will hope Frank finds the time to do the things he's talking about -- they all sound quite worthwhile. I, on the other hand, have been playing a bit more: http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/followpath6.svg You'll need SMIL support and JavaScript in your SVG to see it, but it's only 100 lines of code so it can be comprehended with a large glance. In the long run, a student and I are interested in animating the growth of a tree, but I wanted to get a simple context sensitive theory of budding. I've slowed down the budding so the brambles don't surround the castle too quickly. It might be nice to use a Lindenmeyer system (sort of a Chomskian grammar in parallel) to generate the budding, but for now it's just branch -- branch + branch, and there is no biophysics (other than edge avoidance). Any clever ideas on how to reveal the shape of a Bezier curve gradually -- namely to draw it as it is being traversed by an animation? cheers David [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Opera 9.6, any new SVG support?
Thank you Erik for the information. Editable text is a very useful feature. I hope that other web browsers will follow soon. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Erik Dahlström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:32:40 +0200, Andreas Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, This is more a question towards Erik or Chaals. I wonder if there is some new SVG support or SVG related improvements in Opera 9.6. Mostly fixes to improve stability, for inline text editing in svg (the 'editable' attribute), for printing issues, and for using svg in generated content (CSS ::content, ::after and ::before). No new svg features were added in 9.6. There was a fix made for XSLT that can affect svg, if an XSL stylesheet generated an ?xml-stylesheet? node that stylesheet was never applied to the generated output. These are the ones I can tell off hand, there are probably many other changes that affect svg in one way or another. Cheers /Erik -- Erik Dahlstrom, Core Technology Developer, Opera Software Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group Personal blog: http://my.opera.com/macdev_ed - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Opera 9.6, any new SVG support?
Hello, This is more a question towards Erik or Chaals. I wonder if there is some new SVG support or SVG related improvements in Opera 9.6. Thanks for any information, Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Multi-line editable text area
well - it is a little bit more than zero ;-) Opera 9.5x implements editable text and also textareas. To do the whole thing for other browser with javascript is quite complicated. I did a textbox widgets (only one line) - and this was already very complicated. However, you may consider (at least at the current time) to use HTML for that purpose. Most browsers implement the foreign objects and this allows you to use HTML inside SVG. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, tuom.larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, For a text editor, I'm in need of 10.12 Editable text fields SVG Tiny 1.2 feature [1]. The problem is, the support by current browsers seems to be exactly zero and even if I tried to re-implement the functionality in JS, I'm unable to figure out how to copy paste and drag'n'drop. I would be thankful for any direction, advice, link, ... [1] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/publish/text.html#text-edit - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] FakeSmile: SVGSVGElement.pauseAnimations(), SVGSVGElement.unpauseAnimations()
Hi David, I wonder how complicated it would be to implement SVGSVGElement.pauseAnimations() and .unpauseAnimations() in FakeSmile? Can you estimate if this can be implemented in a reasonable amount of time? Thanks a lot, Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] FakeSmile: addEventListener load does not work
Hi David,
It appears that the last line in FakeSmile
window.addEventListener(load, initSMIL, false);
does not work in ASV/IE6. This is not a big problem for me. I just
added a try/catch statement (below) around the last line. ASV
supports SMIL anyway, so it is not a problem.
try {
window.addEventListener(load, initSMIL, false);
}
catch(er) {
//do nothing
}
Andreas
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[svg-developers] Re: Detect SMIL presence with Javascript
Additivity is the next feature I want to be working on. But the solution I imagine requires a big refactoring of the code. So, I have to gather courage and time. cool - thanks for considering it That said, workarounds exist : You can use nested g's and dispatch the animations to them. the nesting works great for my application. Thanks for the hint. Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Hey you all. Just
Hi Tim, there is no single best authoring environment for SVG. I currently use gedit with sveral plugins, OxygenXML, Opera dragonfly and the Mozilla developer tools. Just today, Webkit also announced enhanced web developer tools in Webkit (http://webkit.org/blog/). Apache Batik also has a debugger. Eclipse may offer some good web-developer tools, probably not specifically designed for SVG, but useful nevertheless. OxygenXML also offers an Eclipse plugin. All of those tools are general web-developer tools, often not specifically designed for SVG - nevertheless, most of them work with SVG. Batik is useful for testing SVG only content, since it is very standards compliant and offers DOM viewer/JS debugger. Opera is a very good browser for developing SVG only and mixed HTML/SVG applications. Hope this helps, Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, tim.becker80 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey you all. I just joined the group today. I'm getting started with SVG and I've gotta figure manny things out. I'm working on a project to bind SVG ANIMATION to a database and I'm a new-be to all of this. My programming/scripting experience is very small. Presently, I'm going through SVG Unleashed and I'm playing with the source code that comes with it. So basically editing .svg files. I'm TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ENVIRONMENT TO DO SOME EDITING IN TO GET SOME HANDS ON EXPERIENCE. I'm wondering if Firebug is a suitable environment for this or not...? Any suggestions? Cheers, Tim. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] FakeSmile: SMIL events now suppor, was: Re: Detect SMIL presence with Javascript
Hi David, This is great. This makes my current SMIL based project work just fine in Firefox without having to do any changes in my code. I can confirm that the beginEvent, endEvent, repeatEvent now works, with the restrictions named by David. For the current project I don't need the evt/event object. For other projects it might be useful to have it available. Thank you very much for taking the time to extend FakeSmile for this functionality. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, David Leunen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas, support of the onend event handler attribute. I would need to have notification that an animation finished so I can react with some script. i've committed revision 30 : http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~smilteam/smil/MAIN/revision/30 onbegin, onend and onrepeat are partially implemented. I use eval() and it is not a correct event management. I'll not release this revision, as it is far from being complete. Practically, you won't have access to the event (evt or event) in your handler, and addEventListener is not supported. All it does is call eval() with the attribute value, when the event occurs. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Detect SMIL presence with Javascript
Thank you for the hint. http://www.codedread.com/svgtest.svg is a
useful page. Switches seem to work with feature strings in ASV/IE, but
it seems that it is not supported to query feature strings using the
DOM. It neither works with the 1.0 features strings, nor with the 1.1
features strings.
I tested with the following code:
---
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
svg xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; width=100% height=100%
onload=smilTest()
script type=text/ecmascript
![CDATA[
function smilTest() {
var smil =
document.implementation.hasFeature(org.w3c.svg.animation,1.0);
alert(SMIL=+smil);
}
]]
/script
/svg
---
document.implementation.hasFeature(http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/feature#SVG-animation,1.1;);
doesn't work either.
Andreas
document.implementation.hasFeature(org.w3c.svg.animation,1.0)
and ASV returns false. Is this the correct way to test feature
strings in SVG 1.0? Opera returns true for both tests (1.0 and 1.1)
You can see what feature strings are supported by displaying this page
in the browser of your choice: http://www.codedread.com/svgtest.svg
Best regards
Robert
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[svg-developers] Re: TTF-Font
yes, SVG fonts would be useful for the more exotic fonts. Fontforge is a free unix/macosx tool to convert various font-formats, including SVG fonts. Opera, Batik and Webkit support external SVG fonts defined in an external file. The Adobe SVG viewer 3 only supports internal SVG fonts, Firefox doesn't support SVG fonts at all, currently. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Frank Bruder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should put the animateTransform element behind the tspan. I don't know about the current version, but some versions of Firefox didn't display text, when something else than tspan, or a elements was in the text element before the text. It is allowed, though, and does work in other user agents. The font-family property identifes a font by its display name, which is not necessarily identical to the filename of the font. You have to look at by what name the font is presented in the selection box when you edit a document in a word processor, or any application that allows you to select fonts. Destroy sound like it could be the full display name, but maybe it's not. Still, this would only work when the font is installed on your system. If you use the document locally, or for offline rendering, that's fine, but it wouldn't work for people who view the document online, unless they also installed the font. To make SVG viewers use the font when it's not installed, you could use CSS webfonts to specify the location of the font file, but I think currently that's only implemented in webkit. A solution which also works in Opera and the Adobe SVG Viewer (but not in firefox), is to use an embedded SVG font. The Apache Batik toolkit comes with a font converter which can make SVG fonts from True Type Fonts. I have recently written a little how-to on SVG fonts: http://frankbruder.fr.ohost.de/fonts/svgfontshowto_en.xhtml Regards Frank --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Hago Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I would like to use a TTF font, called Destroy.ttf. I don`t succeed embedding it. How do I have to do it? First I tried this simple script: .. ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8 standalone=no? svg xmlns:svg=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; version=1.0 width=1600 height=1200 id=svg1 g transform=translate(350,230) text x=0 y=0 transform=rotate(-30) id=text2383 style=font-size:72px;fill:#00;fill-opacity:1;font- family:Destroy; animateTransform attributeName=transform attributeType=XML type=rotate from=-30 to=0 begin=1s dur=5s fill=freeze/ tspanHagos chaos/tspan /text /g /svg ... Regards, Hago - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: TTF-Font
there is no solution to the problem in Firefox. You can specify a standard fallback font after the prefered SVG font that should be present on most machines (one of the fonts that come with Microsoft windows). If Firefox implements web fonts they should most likely also work in SVG. I also hope that they implement SVG fonts in Firefox 3.2 or whatever comes after 3.1. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Hago Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Neumann schrieb: ... Firefox doesn't support SVG fonts at all, currently. Yes, I noticed in the meanwhile, that Firefox doesn't show anything, when I use SVG-Fonts. What is the solution? How can I use fonts in SVG that are also shown in Firefox? Hago - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: IE woes: reload does not work
Hi Bruce, I just installed Fiddler. It is a nice tool. I did not know it. Thank you for the hint! I was able to solve the issue partially. It has to do with caching. It seems that IE6/ASV and caching does not work fine - at least not on my Windows2000 system. I configured Apache2 to send a header that prevents the SVG file from caching. After setting this, I can reload the application multiple times fine without problems. I added these two lines to my Apache configuration (directory context): Header set Cache-control no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate Header set Pragma no-cache Now I have to find out how to trick Apache to only do this when good old IE6 comes along and not for all the other browsers ... Thanks, Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, brucerindahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Peter Thompson plthompson2004@ wrote: Using your link, I get JScript runtime error: 'this.mapSVG' is null or not an object line:73, column 1 on reload. That is on Windows XP, IE 6, with ASVG 3.03. Not that I know what's causing it. Just thought I'd report it since others cannot reproduce it. FWIW, it looks pretty good with Google Chrome. This sounds like an incomplete load of one of the scripts. Andreas - do you have Fiddler installed on your windows box? This would be the best bet to see what is hanging up. Bruce - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] IE woes: reload does not work
Hi IE specialists (if there are any on this list), This refers to IE and the Adobe SVG viewer version 3. I tested on IE 6 (Win2K). I have a couple of SVG projects which involve scripting. They work fine when I first load the file. On the second (or any subsequent) page loads the scripts don't work any more. Since most of the projects are rather complex it is hard to find the cause. I wonder if anyone of you had similar problems and if you were able to solve them? Here is one of the examples that only works on the first page load: http://www.carto.net/williams/yosemite/ The issues only appears in IE and in no other browser. Thanks, Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Detect SMIL presence with Javascript
Hi, I wonder how I can detect with Javascript whether a browser implements SMIL or not. I know that fakesmil can detect it but I couldn't figure out how it does it. I want to write some scripts which only apply if a browser cannot do SMIL natively. Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Detect SMIL presence with Javascript
perfect - Thank you for your very quick answer! Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, David Leunen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Andreas, I wonder how I can detect with Javascript whether a browser implements SMIL or not. You can test this : document.implementation.hasFeature( http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/feature#SVG-animation;, 1.1) It returns true if the user-agent (browser) has the feature. It only test the SMIL capability *in SVG*. Regards. david [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Detect SMIL presence with Javascript
it seems like our friends at Adobe did not implement the feature testing ;-( There really should be a solution for these IE SVG problems ... Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, David Leunen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Andreas, I wonder how I can detect with Javascript whether a browser implements SMIL or not. You can test this : document.implementation.hasFeature( http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/feature#SVG-animation;, 1.1) It returns true if the user-agent (browser) has the feature. It only test the SMIL capability *in SVG*. Regards. david [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Detect SMIL presence with Javascript
really ? I'm surprised. Maybe with the SVG 1.0 feature string : org.w3c.svg.animation See http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/feature.html for more info. hm - I tried document.implementation.hasFeature(org.w3c.svg.animation,1.0) and ASV returns false. Is this the correct way to test feature strings in SVG 1.0? Opera returns true for both tests (1.0 and 1.1) and I forgot to tell you, FakeSMILe doesn't support hasFeature either. yes - I am aware. while we are at FakeSMIL: Are there any plans for further developments? Specifically I would need additive=sum support and support of the onend event handler attribute. I would need to have notification that an animation finished so I can react with some script. Thanks a lot for your efforts you put into fakesmil - it is a very cool piece of script - and it also works in HTML! Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: IE woes: reload does not work
can you reload http://www.carto.net/williams/yosemite/ two or multiple times and it always works? Andreas I've never seen that problem using IE6 and IE7 quite a bit. In fact in IE7/ASV3.03 I can't replicate your problem with the file you mention. I'm still running Windows XP though. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: IE woes: reload does not work
I am on Windows2000 - my employer will move to Windows XP later this year. At home I don't have Windows. Most of our applications (GIS, CAD, customized Apps from smaller vendors, etc.) doesn't work on Vista. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Samuel Dagan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Andreas and Helder, WindowsXP, IE7, and ASV3.03 work fine for me. Are you using Vista? or ASV earlier version? If not, I cannot think of a rational explanation. May be Helder is right. IF this is the case, you can add an interactive restart button, that just calls the initialization program (if all the initial configuration is defined by this program). I am doing that in my Math Animated courseware to avoid reloading time. See e.g. http://mathanimated.com/free/general/tutorial/pythagoras.svg Cheers, Samy --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Helder Magalh�es helder.magalhaes@ wrote: I have a couple of SVG projects which involve scripting. They work fine when I first load the file. On the second (or any subsequent) page loads the scripts don't work any more. Since most of the projects are rather complex it is hard to find the cause. [...] Here is one of the examples that only works on the first page load: http://www.carto.net/williams/yosemite/ [...] The issues only appears in IE and in no other browser. Weird, in deed! :-| Without testing myself (I'd need to download all referenced files to create a local environment), I'd suggest placing the externally referenced resources (script files) and embed scripts withing a defs element: it might help as the issue seems to be the initialize event being triggered before the environment is properly setup. I've tested with IE7+ASV6 and the issue seems to reproduce also. Hope this helps, Helder Magalh�es - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Fw: SVG SMIL in Mozilla
hm - too bad. Let's hope that FF 3.2 is not too far away. SVG fonts and SMIL are the main missing SVG features in Firefox. Andreas Looks like it will not make it.. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi#c104 Sorry.. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=216462#c104 Bruce - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Fw: SVG SMIL in Mozilla
cool. Does this mean that we will get SMIL in Firefox 3.1? Do you know when the nightlies will support SMIL? The current nightlies (latest-trunk) don't. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Cameron McCormack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Forwarded message from Karl Dubost [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Karl Dubost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:16:12 +0900 To: Dick Bulterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SVG SMIL in Mozilla Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/6B909C0C-8318-42F6- [EMAIL PROTECTED] FYI On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:14:34 GMT In Mozilla Project Meeting Minutes: 2008-09-29 at Meeting Notes At http://blog.mozilla.com/meeting-notes/archives/61 Building with SVG SMIL enabled and beginning to write tests for those. [mw22] -- Karl Dubost - W3C http://www.w3.org/QA/ Be Strict To Be Cool - End forwarded message - -- Cameron McCormack â#65533; http://mcc.id.au/ - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] web fonts and SVG
Hello, I am wondering if Firefox 3.1 and Opera 9.6 will support web fonts? Means externally linked ttf files that can be used in CSS and SVG? see http://www.alistapart.com/articles/cssatten It seems that currently Webkit is the only browser supporting those web fonts. I wonder if this would be a technology to overcome the limitation of missing SVG font support in Mozilla, if it would be supported in Firefox 3.1. Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Proposal: A standard SVG test suite
Hi John, Are you aware of the testsuites that W3C provides? You can find them at http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Test/Overview.html for SVG 1.2 Tiny and SVG 1.1 Full. While they do not test every single aspect of the testsuite (this would require thousands of tests), they do test many important parts of the testsuite. If all browsers would score 100%, interoperability would be quite good. Jeff Schiller also provides an overview on how much the web browsers and SVG UAs implement: http:// www.codedread.com/svg-support.php If UAs have a lot of reds, it is usually because they don't implement some parts of the spec at all, e.g. SMIL or SVG filters. I believe that the W3C SVG testsuite is the best testsuite to improve on, if you want to contribute. The W3C SVG working group invites individuals or companies to contribute to the test suite. The SVG IG (interest group http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/IG/wiki/Main_Page) is a good place/group for getting something like this started. The questions is more how to increase pressure on browser manufactorers to test against the testsuite and make it a regular part of their QA. You are probably also aware about the ACID3 test, which all browser manufactorers are testing against. Thanks to Erik, Cameron and Doug we have 3 SVG tests in there as well. I think it is a good idea to increase the SVG share in upcoming ACID tests along with the further development of the SVG testsuite. I agree that interoperability should improve and browser manufactorers need to take SVG more seriously (with higher priority) in the future. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, John C. Turnbull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Being somewhat new to SVG technology, I have been doing some research into the range of SVG compatibility in various browsers and other products before committing to a major project development that is based on SVG. Quite clearly, each browser does some things well and others very poorly with no single browser supporting all aspects of SVG, although Opera scores very highly. This led me to think about what could be done to get all browsers on the same page with respect to SVG. In this regard I believe that what is needed is an industry standard SVG test suite that all browser manufacturers could easily utilise to improve SVG support in their products. Not something trivial, but real- world examples that highlight every aspect of the SVG specification. To accompany these tests would be a standard document that detailed the current status of SVG support in each version of each browser or product highlighting which tests are passed and which are not. I don't know who would own this test suite and compliance status document but it would need to be well managed, easily accessible and automated. Perhaps W3C already provide some certification tests? I don't know, but clearly more work needs to be done in this area to bring all browsers into line. I know Batik has a test suite and I am sure other browser manufacturers each have their own so finding suitable material shouldn't be a problem. The key is to have everyone using the *same* test suite. I believe that SVG developers need to do more to encourage, assist or pressure browser manufacturers to improve their level of SVG support and this could be the first step. Any thoughts? John C. Turnbull Bembrick Software Labs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Slow updates with setTextcontentc
Hi, I agree that this question should be best asked at the Batik mailinglist. If it takes 20 secs to update 100 text elements then there is something seriously wrong in your application. Either you are running at the memory limit (per default Java apps only get 64MB of memory) or there is something else in your code that is slowing down the application. In my experience updating 100 text elements usually happens in 1 second if you do it correctly. If you update the same text elements again and again I would also consider to cache references to those elements and not use getElementById().getFirstChild() again and again. But please post your example on the Batik mailinglist. I am sure they are able to help. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Minimoi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am working on a Batik based java application and I've got to deal with a matter of performance. My problem is that I need to update the text content of some node of my svg document. In order to do this, i got a bunch of SVGOMTextElement with ids and I just use a loop in my java code to change the content of the element. Java Code : // I take the text node in a list SVGOMTextElement elt2 = ((SVGOMTextElement) elt); //I'll update the first child SVGOMTSpanElement span = (SVGOMTSpanElement)elt2.getFirstChild(); //Setting the new value elt2.setTextContent(test); Sample from SVG file g id=TM20 transform=translate(381.35498051840341 ,438.75609706960131) rotate(0) path fill=rgb(160,0,0) stroke-width=0.2 d=M-5.5,-3 L5.5,-3 L5.5,3 z stroke=rgb(160,0,0)/ text style=text-anchor: middle; font-size: 3.3 id=TMTEXT20 transform=translate(0,11) scale(1,-1) tspan5.2/tspan tspan dx=2O/tspan /text This loop is about 100 itérations and take around 20 seconds to complete. Then modification are displayed on my Canvas. My question is quite simple : Is there a thing i did wrong and a way to get the same result faster ? Thank you in advance for your help [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Question on HTML/SVG interop regarding javascript
Hi all, I have a javascript related problem/question: Given the following situation: * HTML file with Javascript and embedded SVG file, some global variable declarations * Embedded SVG with Javascript, some global variable declarations, lets say I have a var definition in the SVG context like var color= 'blue'; The question is: From javascript running in the HTML context - can I access and change javascript variables and objects running in the SVG context - and how would I do that? In the given example, how can I query and change from the HTML context the value of the string variable color which is defined in the SVG context? Thanks for any ideas/hints, Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Question on HTML/SVG interop regarding javascript
Thank you David,
actually the problem was now very simple to solve. It only required
the aliasing of the variable or object to the top object.
so doing:
top.myObject = myObect;
on the SVG part made the object available in the HTML world.
Thanks for the hint!
Andreas
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, ddailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Andreas,
Take a look at http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/
backandforth20.htm
The button with ? explains a little bit about how to use the thing
(it's a collaborative linking sticky-note thing that inserts floating
HTML text areas above svg nodes in a user-connected graph. I think
the graph may have some lexical proximities built in too). It's not
the simplest example of what you want, but I couldn't find anything
easier at hand. It works in IE/ASV, Opera and FF though I haven't
tried it anywhere else.
The array Nodes is defined in SVG. It is an array of objects, each
of which is created via new Node and
function Node(x,y,id,label,col){
this.x=x
this.y=y
this.id=id
this.label=label
this.col=col
this.links=new Array()
this.info=label
}
events in the SVG define the x and y coordinates as well as the
labels and colors of nodes.
events in the HTML define the info (or story) associated with each
node.
Come to think of it, http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/IG/resources/
StateOfArt-Dailey.html contains an example that may be simpler in the
chapter on scripting between SVG and HTML, but since that reference
hasn't been fixed yet you'll have to wade through some funky
characters and some even funkier formatting.
David
- Original Message -
From: Andreas Neumann
To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:14 AM
Subject: [svg-developers] Question on HTML/SVG interop regarding
javascript
Hi all,
I have a javascript related problem/question:
Given the following situation:
* HTML file with Javascript and embedded SVG file, some global
variable declarations
* Embedded SVG with Javascript, some global variable
declarations,
lets say I have a var definition in the SVG context like var
color=
'blue';
The question is:
From javascript running in the HTML context - can I access and
change
javascript variables and objects running in the SVG context - and
how
would I do that? In the given example, how can I query and change
from the HTML context the value of the string variable color
which
is defined in the SVG context?
Thanks for any ideas/hints,
Andreas
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[svg-developers] Tim Berners Lee on the missing SVG support in Internet Explorer
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26646919/ and on thousands of other newspaper sites (if you google for Tim Berners-Lee Flaw in Internet Explorer If only he could have acted earlier ... but better late than never! Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Right-click menus in SVG
Hi JCT, You can use evt.preventDefault(); at the end of the function that is triggered by the event to suppress the default context menu of the browser. You'd have to write the right-click context-menu yourself then. Maybe someone could write a wrapper around the various implementations of context menues. I am sure every browser does it differently. Alternatively, you could write the context menue in SVG and javascript. Maybe something like http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/gui/ selectionlist/ could server as a starter. Hope this helps, Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, John C. Turnbull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forgive me if this is a bit obvious but I notice that when viewing an SVG in a browser, the browser seems to control what happens when the right mouse button is clicked with standard browser functionality. So does this mean that it is not possible for an SVG itself to process right-clicks and have popup menus of its own? Thanks, -JCT [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] SVG in your TV
SVG may soon be present in your TV: This may be old news, but I still post it here: http://www.dreampark.com/390.html and Cabot's presentation at the SVG Open: http://www.svgopen.org/2008/papers/75- SVG_a_key_element_in_achieving_product_differentiation__competitive_advantage_in_the_DVB_market/ Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Negative Coordinates?
Hi John, I agree that Opera 9.5 is currently the best browser based SVG implementation. But Webkit/Safari and Firefox are catching up quickly. Firefox has fallen a bit behind, but FF3 is a huge improvement over FF2. The main lacking features are SVG fonts support and SMIL animation. Negative numbers are supported in all SVG viewers/webbrowsers, however, as others pointed out. I use negative numbers all the time in my mapping applications. Others have pointed out that you should avoid the trailing blanks and your examples should work fine in all of the 4 browsers: Opera, Firefox, Webkit/Safari, Google Chrome. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, John Delacour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been developing a drawing initially using Gran Paradiso (Firefox latest build) until I discovered how far superior the latest Opera is for SVG and continued viewing the file (generated by a Perl script) in Opera. I now discover that neither Firefox nor Safari accept negative coordinates and deal with these as zeros. For example the rectagle below is shown 12 units higher (I use a matrix to convert to Cartesian coordinates) than I intend. Only Opera behaves as I want. rect x=42 y=-12 width=5.75 height=112 fill=burlywood / Are negative coordinates illegal? Firefox and Safari report no error but just ignore the -12. Kudos to the Opera people anyway. It is so much easier to work with. In the Perl script I have an option to open the file in Opera once it is written or simply to activate Opera. If I choose the latter option I then refresh the page and all my scaling and view options in Opera are preserved. This means I can work on a part of the drawing at any scale I want without having to scroll and zoom to that part every time I edit the file. JD - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] SVG Open 2009 in California?
Hi SVG developers, After a successful SVG Open 2008 conference in Nuremberg, Germany, we are looking into organizing SVG Open 2009. Several people have suggested to hold it in California, USA. We are currently investigating the options. Nothing decided yet. We are also looking for people who could help with the local organization of the conference. If you are a SVG developer or user located in California and would be able to help with the conference organization, please contact me personally. We have a separate mailinglist for the conference organization and you could join us there. Thanks a lot, Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Google Chrome - SVG support?
Anyone know anything about the SVG support in Google Chrome? Given that its using Webkit as rendering engine, chances are high that it supports SVG out of the box. I only hope they did not fork the project but continue to use Webkit. This would avoid having to test yet another browser against SVG support. All in all its good to have another webbrowser with SVG support - this really should put more pressure on Microsoft. Its a bit scary though - imagine what data they could collect on the users, if the bundle web-apps, with the web-browser, with web-search, etc. - I feel a little better though, because it is based on open- source. Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Google Chrome - SVG support?
I am using it now. It does support SVG but seems to be an earlier version of WebKit. There is no animation support. It appears some of the new JavaScript engine needs work - my map controls don't always work. Overall it is pretty solid but is is definitely a beta. yes - just checked it against my own examples. Works for the most parts, but some controls don't work, e.g. the linked reference map. It also crashed on the geophoto example. Hopefully they are regularly incorporating the Webkit improvements into their browser and hopefully they begin to contribute towards improving SVG as well. Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: A question on IE browser
I want to thank everyone who answered my question. I believe that svg will not fall. Your answers consolidate my confidence on this great piece of software. Wherever possible, I will add svg files to my web pages. Thanks again. yes - I think it is time to put more SVG on the web. Internet Explorer users should be educated that there are at least three better browser alternatives out there. This was also the tenor on the SVG Open conference in Nuremberg. Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: A question on IE browser
Hi Fulio, It would be certainly good to advise your visitors/customers to use an SVG enabled browser. At the current time, Opera is the best SVG enabled browser, but Webkit/Safari and Mozilla are catching up. At SVG Open conference, just recently held in Nuremberg, the lack of SVG support inside IE was extensively discussed and many people realize that an improved SVG plugin for IE is needed soon, if we want SVG to play an important role in upcoming web infrastructures. I can say there is hope that such a plugin will be provided in the next couple months. As you may know, Examotion is working on an IE plugin. On the other hand there is also the chance that one of the existing browser projects/vendors (either Webkit, Opera or Mozilla) will step up and leverage their existing SVG technology to provide an IE plugin. This is all in early stages - discussion just started. But some of the browser developers present at SVG Open stated that this is technically realistic. This could be regarded as a SVG/IE solution for the medium time frame until IE gets native SVG support. But realistically SVG support could be in IE 9 earliest - and this is some time away. Until then we have to bridge the gap. And we don't have to forget that there are still a lot of old IE versions around. The place where I work, still has lots of IE6 installations ... Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Fulio Pen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, There are some svg files on my web site. And I'm planning to put more on it. Many visitors of the site are still using the IE browser. I understand that the IE browser will not display svg files in near future, but Firefox and Opera will. My question is that approximately when the IE will stop presenting svg? After that will there be any remedy for svg on the IE browser? Or I have to advise the visitors to switch to Firefox or Opera? Thanks for your expertise. Fulio Pen [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: A question on IE browser
yes - I agree we can't know if they implement SVG natively or not. But it is increasingly obvious that the other three browsers build up pressure on Microsoft regarding SVG. At the SVG Open last week all three browser projects (Opera, Webkit and Mozilla) had some presence and confirmed that they are committed to complete SVG 1.1 and at least selected SVG 1.2 features that are useful in the HTML5 context. This is something that Microsoft increasingly cannot simply ignore. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Guy Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should work on the basis that IE will NEVER natively support SVG. MS are playing a clever game of brinkmanship here, knowing that while they keep native SVG support in IE as a possibility, it will cripple efforts to build an alternative as developers will think why start that when IE will probably natively support it in a year's time?. MS COULD have added SVG support before now if they cared to, but they don't. They are too busy pushing Silverlight. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Anyone going to SVG developers conference?
Hi Veiko, If you want to send me a poster (pdf or SVG) I can hang it up in the exhibition part of the conference. At least this allows you to publish the URL and background information on the project so that people can try your clips on SVG enabled phones. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Veiko Herne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone goes to SVG Developers conference, can he/she show my mobile animation clips there? I finished two extra episodes and the WAP site is now launched at wonderries.mobi It workw at least with UIQ3 phones and with Opera for Mobiles. Theoretically it should work on the models supplied with Ikivo Drivers - http://www.ikivo.com/02player_phones.html but I haven't been able to test them. Thanks, Veiko - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Looking for SVG Open 2009 organizers
Dear SVG Open developers, We are looking for organizers of the SVG Open 2009 and 2010 conference. We summarized some information on the conference itself and how to submit a bid at http://www.svgopen.org/organizer_faq.html Should you be at the SVG Open 2008 in Nuremberg there is an opportunity to discuss potential bids and get in touch with past conference organizers to get questions answered. Otherwise we will be happy to answer questions by email. Please send proposals and bids to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - a group of past conference organizers and W3C SVG working group members will decide whose bid will be accepted. Thank you for considering to organize an upcoming SVG Open conference.! Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Software implementing getURL() function
Hi Julien, getUrl/postUrl are supported in: * the Adobe SVG Viewer * Apache Batik * the Bitflash mobile SVG viewer * Ikivo mobile SVG Player * eSVG (http://esvg.ultimodule.com/bin/esvg/templates/default.asp? _resolutionfile=templatespath|default.asparea_3=pages/features) Browsers typically don't implement getURL because they already have similar features in the XMLHttpRequest object, but most mobile or embedded viewers, or toolkits like Apache Batik implement getURL. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Julien Reichel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Do you know which user agent (Firefox, opera, asv, renesis, ...) that implement the getURL() [1] function ?. Thanks for the info or pointer to where to find it. Julien [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/SVGMobile12/ svgudom.html#svg__SVGGlobal_getURL -- Julien Reichel, PhD Technology Architect, SpinetiX S.A. PSE-C, CH-1015, Lausanne, Switzerland Tel: +41 (0) 21 693 89 81 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Information : http://www.spinetix.com -- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Coverting ESRI attibute tables to SVG
Hi, thanks for your help. i am not able to get the carto.net shp2svg to run as it kept telling me that the ogis2svg.pl file does not exist even after i downloaded and installed it severally. can you be a little more specific? On which operating system? My guess is that you placed the files somewhere in a directory not defined in the PATH variable. Also, note that the .pl (perl) version needs a perl environment installed. If you are on windows, you can use the .exe file instead of the .pl file. You'll also need the shp2pgsql file for your platform, which also needs to be present in the same directory or in a directory specified in the PATH variable. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Neumann a.neumann@ wrote: Hi, I assume you mean geometry AND attributes? There are several options, depending on what you want. For a ready-to-use SVG application made from shapefiles, you could use MapViewSVG or InstantAtlas - which creates interactive web- applications: http://www.mapviewsvg.com/ or http:// www.instantatlas.com/ If you want to program the web-applications yourself, you could use the carto.net shp2svg converter available from http:// www.carto.net/ papers/svg/utils/shp2svg/ - which does conversion of shapefile geometries and attributes, plus event handlers - this doesn't create a ready-to-use application, but the raw ingredients to a web- application: geometry and attributes. If you want to convert from databases - Postgis offers a conversion of geometry and attributes to SVG. Finally, there are other GIS tools or commercial converters, such as FME from Safe Software. Hope this helps, Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Rooky sshade25@ wrote: Hi all, Please who has the best script I can use to convert my ArcMap Attribute Tables (Shapefiles) to SVG to enable me upload all my data online. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Coverting ESRI attibute tables to SVG
Hi, I assume you mean geometry AND attributes? There are several options, depending on what you want. For a ready-to-use SVG application made from shapefiles, you could use MapViewSVG or InstantAtlas - which creates interactive web- applications: http://www.mapviewsvg.com/ or http:// www.instantatlas.com/ If you want to program the web-applications yourself, you could use the carto.net shp2svg converter available from http://www.carto.net/ papers/svg/utils/shp2svg/ - which does conversion of shapefile geometries and attributes, plus event handlers - this doesn't create a ready-to-use application, but the raw ingredients to a web- application: geometry and attributes. If you want to convert from databases - Postgis offers a conversion of geometry and attributes to SVG. Finally, there are other GIS tools or commercial converters, such as FME from Safe Software. Hope this helps, Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Rooky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Please who has the best script I can use to convert my ArcMap Attribute Tables (Shapefiles) to SVG to enable me upload all my data online. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Need SVG content
Hi Ravikiran, audio/ and video/ is quite new in SVG and you probably won't find much content currently. But for all of 1-4 you'll find examples in the SVG 1.2 Tiny testsuite: http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Test/ For 3 you will find tons of examples on the web. Andreas 1. SVG content having audio 2. SVG content having video 3. SVG content having script 4. Any combination of above Pls share the content if you have or point me to the location where these are available. Regards, Ravikiran ***LUCK** He worked by dayAnd toiled by night He gave up play And some delight Dry books he read New things to learn He ploded on with Faith and pluck And when he won Men called it LUCK - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: How to test if two objects overlap?
Hello, as far as I know, this is currently not possible without parsing the geometry and doing the intersection by script. The only thing SVG and the DOM currently offers is testing of the intersection or enclosing of a rectangle and SVG elements (shapes), using the DOM methods: getIntersectionList ( in SVGRect rect, in SVGElement referenceElement ); getEnclosureList ( in SVGRect rect, in SVGElement referenceElement ); checkIntersection ( in SVGElement element, in SVGRect rect ); checkEnclosure ( in SVGElement element, in SVGRect rect ); The check of an arbitrary shape agains other arbitrary shapes would be useful though, something to consider for SVG 1.2 Full. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Stefan Heinrichsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I want to test if two objects are overlapping in the document. Currently I use the ScreenBBox of both and test if they overlap. That was enough for what I needed until now, but yet I need a better/accurater solution. Even interesting would be a function which tells for one object which others are overlapping it (without testing on each object). Stefan - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Querry regarding dynamic placing of text?
Hello, see http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/ manipulating_svg_with_dom_ecmascript/index.shtml Example 6 shows how to create new text elements. You can use variables in all attributes and the text content. All you need to do is create the loop around it. Hope this helps, Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, bharatc86 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I used javascript to create svg images and display them as a concept map but I am having problems in displaying the text as I am not able to pass the coordinates for the text dynamically.I used the createElement to create svg images using javascript and setAttribue to assign attibute(coordinates) values dynamically and display them using a loop.I tried using the createElement function and attempted to create a text element and use setAttribute to assign its attributes but I was not successfull as there was no way to insert the text .I need a way to place text using a loop .This requires that both the ext string and the coordinate values should be variable.Furthermore I need to add a hyperlink to the text .Please suggest a way to do this. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: my final year project in SVG ,AJAX,RIA
hm - thats quite an ambitious goal to mimic CorelDraw, Inkscape and Illustrator in SVG. These are big drawing apps that where big corporations (or projects in case of Inkscape) spent multiple men- year of development. Don't expect any miracles from SVG, it would be a lot of work to mimic those big three apps. Simpler drawing apps in SVG are doable, as others demonstrated, but it still is a lot of work and requires a lot of experience in coding, to get a maintainable code-base. Regarding your question: both text and XML based data-types would work fine. If you want to do XML processing within the database, the XML database would be best. If you just want storage and retrieval, the text-format would also work. Or you could just use plain files. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, pnpisal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello sir, thanks for ur reply and nice guidance. but basically our softwre should work like desktop based application. we are using concepts of RIA,AJAX,SVG all put together. but: 1)our requirements are the web based drawing tool should work like the advanced draw tools like corel draw, inkscape(SVG editor) 2)means once the shape is selected by clicking over it 1:the child need to be appended at the eight corners,clicking and dragging this corners will increase or decrease the size. 2:the concept of sprite is useful in that.that what we discussed. 3)to eloborate what we did in our module,i said the we assigned some ids to shapes .thts actually sh001, sh002,.. we hav done with it. 4)we are able to clone the nodes.can drag the current node. 5)another approach for resizing element: is to pass the size specifications by clicking over the shape and asking the user to enter the hight, length tht he wants.but tht becomes discrete. 6)the user who will use the web based tool, will hav there private gallery.so whatever they will be doing will be stored in gallery. SO STORING THE SVG DOC AS XML IN DATABASE IS PROPER? OR I SHOULD STORE IT IN GRAPHIC OR VARGRHIC FORMAT OR CLOBS ??? - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: tip for parseXML and FireFox3 and IE+ASV3
Hello,
Yes, FF3 supports patterns now, so does Opera9 and Safari. I really
recommend not only testing with FF3, but also with Opera and Safari.
Yes, Opera supports HTML-SVG communication. It should work the same
as with FF and Safari.
parseXML:
there is a function called serializeNode() at http://www.carto.net/
papers/svg/resources/helper_functions.js
This function works across all browsers an UAs, incl. ASV, Batik,
Opera, Firefox and Safari. The argument is just a DOM-node, the
result is a string containing the text representation of the DOM-node.
Andreas
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, philsvg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
Since i discover that FF3 supports patterns with bitmaps, i'm
working
to make my site compliant with FF3.
The bigger problem (until this time) comes from parseXML.
This is my context :
My framework is composed of a frame divided in three parts. First
frame is a html menu with links, second and third frames are html
with
embed svg.
I have to include a pattern extracted from the second frame's svg to
third frame's svg.
With IE+ASV3, parseXML(printNode(mynode),SVGDocument) makes the job,
not in FF3.
First, I found a script PrintAndParse.js supplied by Kevin Lindsey
and Doug Schepers (thinks for all the work they give to us(and the
core team of svg-developers group)), trying to make it work in my
context, but i fail. I had mainly an operation is not supported
message error with importNode. Perhaps i missed something
somewhere ...
Searching deeper in google, i found a simple xml syntax and now i
can
replace :
this IE+ASV javascript in svg syntax
bn=parseXML(printNode(mynode),SVGDocument);
bag_node.appendChild(bn);
by this FFX3 javascript in svg syntax:
bag_node.appendChild(SVGDocument.importNode(mynode,true));
To keep IE+ASV3 and FF3 compatibility, i group these syntax in a
function :
function AddANode(docdest,mynode,dest)
{
if(window.parseXML){
bn=parseXML(printNode(mynode),docdest);
dest.appendChild(bn);
} else
{
dest.appendChild(docdest.importNode(mynode,true));
}
}
call by :
...
bag_node=SVGDocument.getElementById(patternbag);
AddANode(SVGDocument,a_node,bag_node);
...
and now, two svg can exchange patterns with javascript through
framed
html, in IE+ASV3 and FF3b3!
Hope this will help you.
Philippe
http://www.visualkit.com ... not yet FF3 compliant.
PS : Opera deals with patterns and bitmap since years, but I can't
find a working example of svg-html-svg communication for Opera. Is
someone know if this is (will) implemented?
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[svg-developers] Firefox 3 - please give the SVG part testing
With Firefox 3, beta 3 released - may I remind the SVG developers to give it some thorough testing? Please test your own examples and report problems to the Mozilla bugtracker (https:// bugzilla.mozilla.org/) Thanks a lot, Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: postURL doesn't work in FF2 +ASV 6
Hi Rodolfo, ASV6 was never properly tested and there are known issues with Firefox. Firefox, however, has its own native SVG support and Firefox3 (soon to be released) has improved in SVG substantially. So I really recommend not relying on ASV for Firefox. In Opera, Safari and Firefox you can use the XMLHttpRequest to do network requests. See http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/ network_requests/index.shtml for a wrapper function around getURL (for ASV and Batik) and XMLHttpRequest for other web-browsers. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, RODOLFO MORENO LLACZA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi ALL, I have FF2 and I have set svg.enabled = false (this using about:config) in order to disabled the own support for SVG of FF and I have installed the ASV 6 plugin. getURL method is working fine but postURL method doesn't work. however getURL and postURL working fine with IE7 + ASV3. (I have tested one week ago) I don't know which is the error or maybe is an ASV6 bug the way how I am calling this method is: postURL(url,params,getURLCallback,'application/x-www-form- urlencoded; charset=utf-8'); thanks in advantage RODOLFO Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Wavy line symbol in SVG
Hi Erik and others, I tried the method with text on path. However, in Opera, I don't see any difference at all when using method=stretch when compared to method=align. Anything I am doing wrong? Here is my file: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? !DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD SVG 1.0//EN http://www.w3.org/ TR/2001/REC-SVG-20010904/DTD/svg10.dtd svg xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; xmlns:xlink=http:// www.w3.org/1999/xlink width=100% height=100% defs font id=myFont horiz-adv-x=100 font-face font-family=My Font units-per-em=100/ missing-glyph horiz-adv-x=100/ glyph unicode=p horiz-adv-x=100 d=M 0 0 L 2.5 0 C 50 45 50 -50 102.5 0 L 97.5 0 C 50 -45 50 50 -2.5 0 Z / /font /defs path id=myFirstPath fill=none stroke=blue stroke- width=2 d=M20,300L300,300v100h200/ text font-family=My Font font-size=60 fill=red textPath xlink:href=#myFirstPath method=stretch ppp /textPath /text path id=mySecondPath fill=none stroke=blue stroke- width=2 d=M 100 100 C 300 300 300 -100 500 100/ text font-family=My Font font-size=60 fill=red textPath xlink:href=#mySecondPath method=stretch ppp /textPath /text /svg Thank you for having a look it. I think this would probably come close to what Bruce wants but it doesn't properly align when using curves (see upper example). Of course, I wouldn't expect it to work when there are discontinuities (lower example), but it would be nice if the glyphs would properly connect on the upper example. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Erik Dahlström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried making that into an SVGFont + text-on-a-path? Using that it should be possible to get the effect of something similar to a custom stroke that follows a path. Adding method=stretch on the textPath element may make it look better, but it depends. Cheers /Erik On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 22:14:54 +0100, brucerindahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David This is close but I want to specify a path and have it drawn with this symbol along the entire length of the path. It is kind of like specifying a dash-array that is then repeated along the path. Is this possible? Bruce --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, ddailey ddailey@ wrote: Do you mean something like this? svg xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; xmlns:xlink=http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink; defs symbol id=S path id=u d=M 5 60 C 20 100 25 20 40 60 / use transform=translate(35,0) xlink:href=#u/ use transform=translate(70,0) xlink:href=#u/ /symbol /defs use x=60 y=0 transform=scale(2, 4) width=200 height=100 fill=none stroke-width=2 stroke=red xlink:href=#S/ /svg You can adjust the wavelength and amplitude through pthe scale transform associated with the use. Perhaps you have something else in mind? -- Erik Dahlstrom, Core Technology Developer, Opera Software Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group Personal blog: http://my.opera.com/macdev_ed - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Pretty printer for Windows, Batik
Thank you frank for this thorough Tutorial! I will test it on my Windows box and report if it works fine or if I have problems. This will definitely help making the use of SVG files more comfortable on Windows. Thanks, Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Frank Bruder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you are: http://frankbruder.fr.ohost.de/scripting/batikinstall.html Given the stated intend of that tutorial it will probably need some improvement ... by someone else than me. Or at least I'm not going to have the time to do much for it soon. Regards Frank --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Neumann neumann@ wrote: Hi Frank, This is a very good idea. Could you describe this technique in more detail, either on the Batik wikie, the SVG wiki or on your own website/blog? I'd be interested to use this or propose it to colleagues who work primarily on Windows, but I am not very skilled in Windows. So I can't do it based on your explanation below. I am pretty sure one can do the same thing on KDE/Gnome or in MacOSX. It would certainly make life easier when being able to trigger viewing an SVG file, converting fonts, pretty printing and rasterizing directly out of the file manager - be it on Windows, Mac or Linux. So if you could provide a more complete description on how to achieve this, it would really help. Thanks, Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Frank Bruder redurbf@ wrote: Or you can write a batch file with your favoured options and %1 in place of FILES and add it as an action for the file type SVG. This way you can just right click on an SVG file and start the pretty printer from the context menu. I don't use pretty printer, but that's the way I use ttf2svg and the Batik rasterizer for conversion to PNG or PDF. But the point is, if you don't want to use Batik from the command line only---and after all: What's Windows good for if you always need the command line for such simple tasks?---then setting up Batik is a bit more work and requires some bit of knowledge about Windows. It's still very easy actually. Just, you might need some help to learn what can be done and how. Using Squiggle as a GUI would appear to be the most convenient way to use Batik. But I don't think it is. Because you can't simply drag files from the Windows-Explorer to Squiggle. I think this is a limitation of Java's swing toolkit or of Java per se(?) Anyways, it's quite a drawback to effectively working with Squiggle, when you need the file dialogue each time you wish to open a document. Using the tools you need from the context menu is easier. Once you've got the necessary setup done, that is. I don't want to advocate against using Batik. It's just not as self- explanatory as we are used to from windows applications. Still easy to use, but not the kind of easy which non-savvy users need no help with. Regards Frank --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Neumann neumann@ wrote: Batiks pretty printer works fine on Windows and is actually easy to use: java -jar batik-svgpp.jar [OPTIONS] FILES See http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/batik/tools/pretty- printer.html Installing the Batik binaries is as easy as unzipping a zip archive, assuming you already have a java runtime engine installed. Batik Squiggle, the SVG viewer, also has a save as option with the pretty printer. Hope this helps, Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, mikh2161 mhorvath2161@ wrote: Does anyone know of a free SVG pretty printer that works with minimal setup on Windows? I've found the one by Batik, but I'm not sure if it works on Windows or if installation is easy. I figured out that if you rename the SVG file to XML and open it in Internet Explorer, the file will be displayed using attractive formatting. However, I don't believe you can simply copy/ paste the text, as the displayed file doesn't simply use whitespace for indentation. -Mike - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email
[svg-developers] Re: Pretty printer for Windows
Batiks pretty printer works fine on Windows and is actually easy to use: java -jar batik-svgpp.jar [OPTIONS] FILES See http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/batik/tools/pretty-printer.html Installing the Batik binaries is as easy as unzipping a zip archive, assuming you already have a java runtime engine installed. Batik Squiggle, the SVG viewer, also has a save as option with the pretty printer. Hope this helps, Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, mikh2161 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know of a free SVG pretty printer that works with minimal setup on Windows? I've found the one by Batik, but I'm not sure if it works on Windows or if installation is easy. I figured out that if you rename the SVG file to XML and open it in Internet Explorer, the file will be displayed using attractive formatting. However, I don't believe you can simply copy/paste the text, as the displayed file doesn't simply use whitespace for indentation. -Mike - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Pretty printer for Windows, Batik
Hi Frank, This is a very good idea. Could you describe this technique in more detail, either on the Batik wikie, the SVG wiki or on your own website/blog? I'd be interested to use this or propose it to colleagues who work primarily on Windows, but I am not very skilled in Windows. So I can't do it based on your explanation below. I am pretty sure one can do the same thing on KDE/Gnome or in MacOSX. It would certainly make life easier when being able to trigger viewing an SVG file, converting fonts, pretty printing and rasterizing directly out of the file manager - be it on Windows, Mac or Linux. So if you could provide a more complete description on how to achieve this, it would really help. Thanks, Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Frank Bruder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or you can write a batch file with your favoured options and %1 in place of FILES and add it as an action for the file type SVG. This way you can just right click on an SVG file and start the pretty printer from the context menu. I don't use pretty printer, but that's the way I use ttf2svg and the Batik rasterizer for conversion to PNG or PDF. But the point is, if you don't want to use Batik from the command line only---and after all: What's Windows good for if you always need the command line for such simple tasks?---then setting up Batik is a bit more work and requires some bit of knowledge about Windows. It's still very easy actually. Just, you might need some help to learn what can be done and how. Using Squiggle as a GUI would appear to be the most convenient way to use Batik. But I don't think it is. Because you can't simply drag files from the Windows-Explorer to Squiggle. I think this is a limitation of Java's swing toolkit or of Java per se(?) Anyways, it's quite a drawback to effectively working with Squiggle, when you need the file dialogue each time you wish to open a document. Using the tools you need from the context menu is easier. Once you've got the necessary setup done, that is. I don't want to advocate against using Batik. It's just not as self- explanatory as we are used to from windows applications. Still easy to use, but not the kind of easy which non-savvy users need no help with. Regards Frank --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Neumann neumann@ wrote: Batiks pretty printer works fine on Windows and is actually easy to use: java -jar batik-svgpp.jar [OPTIONS] FILES See http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/batik/tools/pretty-printer.html Installing the Batik binaries is as easy as unzipping a zip archive, assuming you already have a java runtime engine installed. Batik Squiggle, the SVG viewer, also has a save as option with the pretty printer. Hope this helps, Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, mikh2161 mhorvath2161@ wrote: Does anyone know of a free SVG pretty printer that works with minimal setup on Windows? I've found the one by Batik, but I'm not sure if it works on Windows or if installation is easy. I figured out that if you rename the SVG file to XML and open it in Internet Explorer, the file will be displayed using attractive formatting. However, I don't believe you can simply copy/paste the text, as the displayed file doesn't simply use whitespace for indentation. -Mike - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: GML to SVG...coordinates to pixels
Hello, your question can't be answered in general. Depending on the accuracy of the input data and the envisaged accuracy in the output (presentation) data, it might be useful to reduce the accuracy by rounding to fewer digits after the comma. But one has to experiment to avoid visible artefacts. Another common technique is to use relative coordinates. But in your case, if you work with geographic coordinates (lon/lat), this does not help. Also, relative coordinates might introduce sliver polygons in complex polygon mosaics. Some viewers (e.g. Firefox) may have problems with some coordinate systems, f.e. if all of your data is within 1 or 2 degrees, or if you use very large coordinates (e.g. UTM). This needs a little testing. If it happens with your data, it often helps to simple multiply the coordinates with a certain factor. I collected a few issues for optimizing the geodata to SVG conversion: see the last section at http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/ postgis_geturl_xmlhttprequest/ - maybe some of the issues also apply to your conversion scenario. I am also not so familiar with XSLT. I am more a scripting/ programming guy. I don't know how easy it is with XSLT to solve more complex conversion scenarios. Most scripting languages have good XML support, so its easy to read and generate XML with scripting languages. Hope this helps, Andreas PS: if you have a good GML to SVG converter using XSLT I would be interested having a look at it, if you are willing to share. --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, horseisbrown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am about to start converting GML to SVG using XSLT, I have only really used XSLT previously, so I am quite new to all of this. The GML coordinates I have are in Eastings/Northings format which was provided by Ordnance Survey MasterMap. I am wondering the best way of plotting these using SVG... should I just stick with the coordinate values as they are and change the viewBox properties (so that it begins at the lowest value coordinates and finishes at the highest), or is there a more elegant way to do this? Any help is much appreciated thank you. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Change reference to external CSS file per script
Hi all, I have an example at http://www.carto.net/neumann/temp/loadCss.svg where I use javascript to change the reference to an external CSS file by removing and creating a processingInstruction and appending it before the root element. This works fine in Firefox and Batik, but fails in Opera and Safari. I don't dare to ask about IE/ASV, but I hope to find a way to make this possible in Opera and Safari? Thank you for any hints. Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Heads Up for SVG Open 2008!
Hi Doug and others, thanks for the pre-announcement. The conference will be in Nuremberg, Germany and the date will be the last week of August. More information soon on the SVG Open website. I'll encourage past and potential SVG Open attendees to provide feedback and input on what they want to see/hear at the SVG Open conference, similar to David Daileys mail from today. Thanks, Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Doug Schepers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, SVG Community- At SVG Open 2007, we promised to announce preparations for SVG Open 2008 in late December or early January. I thought I would kick off the New Year with an informal preliminary call for papers... it's still 2007 where I'm writing. :) I don't want to spoil the official announcement, which will follow within a couple weeks, but the organizer has been chosen, early sponsors found, a location determined (hint: it's somewhere in Europe), and a timeframe decided (sometime in late September, as usual). The SVG Open 2008 site will be officially open for business by mid-January, but you can get started on your papers now. For those of you who plan to present or attend, it would be interesting to hear feedback about what you want to see in the conference. The presentation tracks are not yet decided, so there's time for you to chime in. I look forward to seeing some of you there, and to helping review your presentations. Happy New Year! Best Regards- -Doug Schepers W3C Staff Contact, SVG, CDF, and WebAPI - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Heads Up for SVG Open 2008!
Thanks for your suggestion, David! There will be a SVG wow session as always. In 2007 we had Erik Dahlströms presentation Quick recipes for SVG Wow! (http:// www.svgopen.org/2007/papers/abstract3/index.html) - I just saw that the links are broken. I will look into the broken links on the weekend and fix them. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, ddailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Doug, Am glad to see things are moving along for the next conference. I recall one of the tracks that was in 2006 that I did not seem to see in SVG 2007 was something about cool and flashy demos -- that would be fun both to observe and to present. It also might go some ways toward exposing the naive among our audience to some of the potential. Happy New Year! David - Original Message - From: Doug Schepers To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 2:06 AM Subject: [svg-developers] Heads Up for SVG Open 2008! Hi, SVG Community- At SVG Open 2007, we promised to announce preparations for SVG Open 2008 in late December or early January. I thought I would kick off the New Year with an informal preliminary call for papers... it's still 2007 where I'm writing. :) I don't want to spoil the official announcement, which will follow within a couple weeks, but the organizer has been chosen, early sponsors found, a location determined (hint: it's somewhere in Europe), and a timeframe decided (sometime in late September, as usual). The SVG Open 2008 site will be officially open for business by mid-January, but you can get started on your papers now. For those of you who plan to present or attend, it would be interesting to hear feedback about what you want to see in the conference. The presentation tracks are not yet decided, so there's time for you to chime in. I look forward to seeing some of you there, and to helping review your presentations. Happy New Year! Best Regards- -Doug Schepers W3C Staff Contact, SVG, CDF, and WebAPI [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Opera/Firefox performance
Hello, In my experience, Opera, Firefox and Safari are good enough for web- mapping applications. You can see one example at http://www.carto.net/ williams/yosemite/ - which probably has similar filesizes like yours or even bigger. Firefox2 is rather slow, but Firefox 3 is much better. Safari is quite promising, esp. with bigger files. Opera has good performance and is the most complete SVG implementation, but it can be a little slow for bigger files (3 elements in the DOM) but its improving from version to version. Of course there are lots of places for performance improvements. For map data I also recommend trying to reduce the number of elements in the DOM (within the GIS) and gzipping (on the fly) on the map-server. See section Ideas to improve performance at the bottom of the web- page http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/postgis_geturl_xmlhttprequest/ . The Intergraph solution might not be as flexible as the Postgis/PHP solution described, but some ideas might help with Intergraph as well. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, scalablev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm developing map applications where the average svgz files are 50kb- 150kb. They usually have a couple of eventhandlers for tooltips, highlighting elements etc. IE with ASV can struggle a bit with the biggest files. I have heard about poor performance with the native svg implementations in Opera and Firefox. How do you think these browsers will deal my maps? These svgz files are generated by Intergraph's GeoMedia WebMap. Has anyone else tried the WebMap and Firefox/Opera combination? - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: update on status of textArea widget
Hi Jake, What do you mean by multi-line textArea widget? Do you mean editable text or just multiline textflow. Editable multiline text in SVG with scripting is very complicated. Just textflow itself can be done. See: http://www.carto.net/papers/ svg/textFlow/ and http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/textFlow/index.svg as an example. Multiline editable text can be done with SVG 1.2, but I don't think any of the available web-browsers implement this (maybe an early preview of Opera, if at all). Alternatively you can use HTML widgets with SVG if you need multiline editable text. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jake B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I was hoping I could get people's feedback on what the current best practice approach is for when a multi-line textArea widget is needed in a pure svg application. I know at least that something like this is in SVG 1.2 Tiny, but I'm not sure how well that is supported across different user agents. For compatibility, it might still make sense to roll my own using textFlow style and JavaScript. Or perhaps there's an even better way. Please let me know what you think. Thanks. Jake - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Adobe SVG Plug in for Solaris 8?
Hi, I wouldn't recommend the Adobe SVG viewer on Linux and Unix. It was only a alpha-pre-release and never went through QA. Depending on the features you need I recommend Opera, Batik or Mozilla. Given that Java is well supported on Solaris, why don't you try Batik? Batik SVN version supports SVG well, including SMIL animation. If you need a browser environment try Opera or Mozilla Minefield (if you don't need animation). Later, Webkit might also be an option. At the current time, Opera is the best web browser with SVG support. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, michaelbeggs50 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have experience with Adobe (or any) SVG plug-in for Solaris 8? When I install it and run it, exactly as described in the readme, Mozilla dies immediately with a bus error. Firefox does not die, but throws an error message telling me that it is missing libgtksuperwin.so. I googled that library, and saw lots of info, but nothing specific enough to tell me why it needed to be installed. Any pointers? Thanks in advance, Michael - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: compressed external js with FF3?
it works fine for me. I tested with Apache on-the-fly gzip compression (mod_deflate). If you use the Live HTTP Header extension with firefox and point the firefox browser to http:// www.carto.net/williams/yosemite/navigation.js you can see that this file is actually gzip-encoded (Content-Encoding: gzip) Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, André M. Winter - Carto.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thank you björn, no luck at all... (sometimes it's sufficient to call the file e.g. example.js.gz). no it isn't. just tested on an apache server with not gz mime type set: Error: illegal character Source File: http://192.168.0.3/webtest/menutest.js.gz Line: 1 Source Code: ??o=G also correct mime type gives me the same result (tested with a local and adapted version of http://entropymine.com/jason/testbed/mime). Making it work locally requires different methods, if that is possible at all. no it doesn't work. same result as above. andré -- ___ andre m. winter, cartography for internet and multimedia applications schiessstand 4/1, a6091 goetzens, tyrol, austria tel.: ++43.5234.32732 http://www.vectoreal.com/ SVG consulting and development http://www.geotrace.net/ geo-localized high quality photographs http://www.carto.at/ print and online touristic map solutions - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Problems with running Javascript in Batik Squiggle
Hi Tony, does your file work in other browsers like Opera, Firefox, Safari, etc? the Adobe viewer was very forgiving when users used non-standard javascript/DOM methods. Other viewers are not. There might be some issues when trying to run SVG files specifically designed for the Adobe viewer. See http://jwatt.org/svg/authoring/ for some details on potential issues. If you follow these guidelines, your examples should work fine with all major SVG viewers. Regarding Batik: it might be useful to check the nightlies, available from http://people.apache.org/builds/xml-batik/ or checkout the sources with svn. The beta is already quite old compared with the trunk. Hope you can fix your problems, Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a developer new to SVG. I'm using Adobe SVG Viewer and Batik Squiggle 1.7 beta to view my code. Even though Batik supposedly supports Javascript now, every time I load an SVG with embedded Javascript--which runs fine in ASV--I get a security error: Scripts of type (text/javascript) cannot be loaded and executed with the current security settings. Here are the details: java.lang.SecurityException: Scripts of type (text/javascript) cannot be loaded and executed with the current security settings. at org.apache.batik.swing.svg.AbstractJSVGComponent $BridgeUserAgentWrapp er.checkLoadScript(Unknown Source) at org.apache.batik.bridge.BaseScriptingEnvironment.checkCompatibleScrip tURL(Unknown Source) at org.apache.batik.bridge.BaseScriptingEnvironment.loadScripts (Unknown Source) at org.apache.batik.bridge.UpdateManager.dispatchSVGLoadEvent (Unknown Source) at org.apache.batik.bridge.UpdateManager.dispatchSVGLoadEvent (Unknown Source) at org.apache.batik.swing.svg.SVGLoadEventDispatcher.run (Unknown Source) This happens even with the security settings disabled in Edit-- Preferences. When I edit the code to remove the type=text/javascript attribute, or edit it to type=text/ecmascript the code either throws another error or it doesn't work at all. Worse, when I try to look up this problem on the Apache Batik web site, or on this forum, no one else seems to have this difficulty. Could you tell me if anyone else has had this problem, and what, if anything, can be done? Thank you. Tony G. Harris - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Swiss Television: Election Results in SVG maps
Hello, As you might know, we had national elections yesterday. Not that I like the gains of the right-wing SVP party, at least the greens had substantial gains as well. But I'd like to share the fact that the Swiss Television publishes the results as SVG maps: http:// tagesschau.sf.tv/wahlen07/wahlen_2007/resultatekarten On some Windows and Mac browsers it seems like it looks for the Adobe Plugin, even on browsers that render SVG natively, really annoying. On Linux it renders fine. Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Swiss Television: Election Results in SVG maps
that's excellent, http://www.sf.tv/wahlen07/nr/fedelecCN.svg performs well in Opera, Mozilla and Safari-Webkit on OS X haven't tested it extensively. however the canton results onmouseover only appear in Opera (SMIL?) I don't think it uses SMIL. this seems odd, do we know who the author is? (Ronan?) it is a company in the western (french) part of Switzerland, called MicroGIS: http://www.microgis.ch/ Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Calling all geometry specialists: coordinate grid on a sphere (not OT)
I can imagine that drawing a single polyline between two crossings would do the trick, but that would increase the number of DOM elements in a strong way. Since I have been experiencing trouble with FF 2.0.0.7 (Mac) when drawing major amounts of SVG DOM elements I would like to refrain from doing this. (Your opinion?) I don't care about FF2 on the Mac, it is too slow and too buggy. It will be gone soon. FF3 is coming soon and is much faster, especially on the Mac. FF3 on Mac is just as quick as FF3 on Windows. The number of lines you use is not very large, so there shoulnd't be any performance problems (besides maybe FF2 on the Mac). and yes, as Eric stated, clip-path may help you solve the problem with clipping off geometry outside the circle/ellipse. Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] SVG Map Prototype from Electricite de France
I'd like to share this presenation from the FOSS4G conference: http://www.foss4g2007.org/presentations/view.php?abstract_id=213 - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Text flow and word wrapping
Hi Jeff, Text wrapping in a rectangular area is in SVG Tiny 1.2 (http:// www.w3.org/TR/SVGMobile12/text.html#TextInAnArea) Opera 9.5 (alpha version), available from http://my.opera.com/ desktopteam/blog/, already supports textarea. If you look at this file (http://www.w3.org/TR/SVGMobile12/examples/textArea01.svg) - this should already display in Opera 9.5 alpha. I don't know when other viewers will support it. If you think it is important, drop the Mozilla and Safari developers a line. I think it is a very important feature and hope that it will be implemented soon, even in SVG 1.1 viewers. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jerrold Maddox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone give their best guess on when text flow and word wrapping will be recommended by W3C and supported in any of the browsers? The working draft from 2002, says this: Text 1. SVG 1.2 should allow word wrapping and forced line breaks for text within multiple rectangles [SVG 1.2] 2. SVG 2.0 should allow word wrapping, forced line breaks and text flow within multiple shapes [SVG 2.0] 3. SVG text should allow justification locations, such as the nine standard positions (bottom, center, top with left, middle, right). Note that this requirement will involve coordination with the CSS and XSL groups, and investigation by the Internationalization group. [SVG 1.2] [SVG 2.0] 4. SVG may allow text to be justified flush within a shape. [SVG 2.0] 5. The transform attribute should be added to the tspan element [SVG 1.2] 6. SVG should provide a method to define how whitespace is handled. SVG may provide an attribute that defines how a text element should handle whitespace, overriding the use of the xml:space attribute. [SVG 2.0] Is there anything which is more recent that could fill me in on where things have gone since then and where they are going? I haven't been able to find anything on line. I am interested because of a long term project of my mine using a variety of different languages and different scripts to present fairly long text documents - that is from 1000 to 5000 words - which need to use embeded SVG fonts - it is something I would like to be able to begin making available within the next year. Thanks. Jerry [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: USE elements in Safari - problems with events
yes - this really is a restriction on the use element. If you want to get the reference to a use element, you have to use .currentTarget and place the event handler attribute on the use element directly, not on a parent group, as you might be used to do with regular shapes. All proper SVG UAs act like you describe. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, richard_smith_ons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14167 Due to the above I get evt.target.getAttributeNS not an object when trying to process the events on a USE element (Safari 3.0.3 for Windows). The conclusion seems to be it's not a bug (!) Is there a recommended workaround? Thanks Richard - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Text in SVG
Hi Jerry, It seems like your example uses some Adobe proprietary font inclusion, not a readable SVG font. Newer editions of Adobe Illustrator (CS2 and CS3) and CorelDraw can export SVG fonts. Alternatively, Batik comes with a tool to convert true type fonts to SVG fonts. The free fontforge application (works fine on various unixes/mac/linux, but harder to install on windows) can convert a large range of font formats, including svg fonts. If you send me the gentium fonts (the download seems to be broken currently) I can convert the font for you and adopt your example. Or you could try any of the other methods yourself (Batik/fontforge). Hope this information helps, Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jerrold Maddox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been trying to figure out if it is possible to format text with an embedded font in SVG so that I can get something like this: http://www.personal.psu.edu/jxm22/7thltr.html (To see it as I intend, you need to have the free font Gentium installed.) All I have been able to do is this (which only appears in Opera) and the font embedding doesn't work and I can't figure out how to format the text - paragraph breaks, heading and applying CSS. (This uses the JavaScript that Andreas has posted.) http://www.personal.psu.edu/jxm22/7thltr.svg I want to be able to develop some polyglot pages of essays and have control over the font that they appear in. Thanks for any help, even if it telling me it can't be done. Jerry - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: svg filters?
Hi Luca, by latest version - do you mean version 3 or version 2? My guess is version 2. If that is the case, filters aren't supported in FF2x. Which would explain why your graphics appears flat. In FF3 (Minefield/Gran Paradiso) many filters already work, but not all of them. FF3 is also available for testing and is not too far away from being released. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, luca.paganotti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, i'm absolutely new to svg but already using xml ... I'm trying an example found in a svg tutorial about filters, here is the code: defs g transform=translate(10,-190) id=theDuck stroke=none fill=sandybrown path d=M 0 312 ... z/ /g filter id=MyFilter feGaussianBlur in=SourceAlpha stdDeviation=4 result=blur/ feOffset in=blur dx=4 dy=4 result=offsetBlur/ feSpecularLighting in=blur surfaceScale=5 specularConstant=1 specularExponent=10 lightColor=green result=specOut fePointLight x=-5000 y=-1 z=2/ /feSpecularLighting feComposite in=specOut in2=SourceAlpha operator=in result=specOut / feComposite in=SourceGraphic in2=specOut operator=arithmetic k1=0 k2=1 k3=1 k4=0 result=litPaint/ feMerge feMergeNode in=offsetBlur/ feMergeNode in=litPaint/ /feMerge /filter /defs use xlink:href=#theDuck filter=#MyFilter/ i only changed the path definition for my image that is a monocromatic representation of the letter 'a' but i can't see any change in its visualization. I tried also changing the piping chain applying anly the first filter than the second ... but never changes in any case. So what i've to do? I made my test using the last version of Firefox on a windows box and on a linux one but the result is the same my a letter is always flat like the filter wasn't applied. Any help will be appreciated, thanks in advance and sorry for my bad english. Luca Paganotti - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Performance of Firefox improved on the Mac
I recently tried one of the nightly Firefox builds (http:// ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/) on the Mac and was pleased to find out that performance of Firefox on Mac is now the same than on other platforms (e.g. Windows). Due to information from Tim Rowley, this is due to an upgrade of the cairo version in the Mozilla tree. So if there are people like me who almost gave up on Firefox on the Mac due to bad performance and rendering bugs this is now the time to give it a second try. Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: SVG in Safari 1 and 2
Safari doesn't support SMIL animation, just like Firefox. So no surprise that your animation doesn't work. gzip compression is supported in the browser. It works fine for me. If it doesn't work in your case it might also be a server configuration problem? Andreas Just tested and my The Spoon animation series are still not playing with Safari new beta. Everthing appears same time in the screen and wrong sizes. Seems, that support of AnimateMotion tag is not implemented. Also there is no support for compressed SVGZ format. Apple will have long way to go. Veiko Herne http://veikoh.wordpress.com --- heldermagalhaes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no idea what kind of SVG support it (Safari 3.0) has. SVG support in version 3 of Safari seems to be fairly consistent! :-) Few memory leaks observed (which lack a deeper study before trying to post any bug reports), but in terms of support it seems to tackle with Firefox (http://www.codedread.com/svg-support.php). I have not heard much good about the Windows version of Safari. I believe this hassle was caused by a few security issues and serious bugs in first public beta. Now all seems pretty solid, both regarding general and SVG usage. Regards, Helder Magalhães - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links (Yahoo! ID required) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: how to identify all elements at a point?
Hi Simon, yes, spatial subdivision and then a bounding box test before actually testing the bounding box really helps to speed up things. Kevin Lindsey has a number of useful geometry libraries on his website www.kevlindev.com - amongst them a polygon inside/outside and intersection tests. Depending on the element types you use his scripts might work fine for you. I am also using his path/ element geometry parser. But really, the implementors should implement SVGSVGElement.getIntersectionList() Andreas Hi David, Before I wrote my original post I considered both approaches you describe. With your response I started to develop solutions to both in parallel. I had some success with the approach of artificially bringing all elements at a point to the front by setting the pointer- events attribute of the front-most element to null (and tracking each element with a temporary id attribute so I could later remove this and the pointer-events attributes). However, I ran into some event conflicts and reverted to the brute force approach of identifying each element by its coordinates. In my specific case, what makes the peformance acceptable and not cumbersome is that my 'canvas' is spatially divided into nested chunks so I can quite quickly locate elements instead of iterating over hundreds of them. Thank you again for your input - it was very helpful. Let's hope the developers of SVG implementations add this to their feature lists. Simon - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] getBBox() onload bug fixed in Firefox
There is some good news that in one of the later Firefox 3 nightlies the nasty bug, that getBBox() doesn't work onload, is now fixed. This means that once people switched from FF2 to FF3, we can remove our ugly hacks (e.g. setTimeout) to work around this bug. I am very glad that this is finally solved! Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: how to identify all elements at a point?
Hi Simon,
SVGSVGElement.getIntersectionList( rect, referenceElement ) or
.getEnclosureList(rect, referenceElement) would theoretically do the
job.
Unfortuanetly it is only implemented in Batik ;-( It takes a
rectangle as input, but you can specify a very small rectangle.
You can also ping the viewer developers to implement this very useful
method.
Here is a very simple example:
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
svg xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; xmlns:xlink=http://
www.w3.org/1999/xlink width=100% height=100% viewBox=0 0 1024
768 onload=testGetIntersectionList()
script type=text/ecmascript
![CDATA[
function testGetIntersectionList() {
var svgroot = document.documentElement;
var myRect = svgroot.createSVGRect();
myRect.x = 460;
myRect.y = 460;
myRect.width = 1;
myRect.height = 1;
var intersectList =
svgroot.getIntersectionList(myRect,null);
for (var i=0;iintersectList.length;i++) {
alert(id of intersected
element=+intersectList.item(i).getAttributeNS(null,id));
}
}
]]
/script
titleDemonstration of the method
SVGSVGElement.getIntersectionList()/title
rect id=redRectangle x=400 y=400 width=200 height=200
fill=red /
rect id=blueRectangle x=450 y=450 width=200 height=200
fill=blue /
rect id=yellowRectangle x=50 y=50 width=100 height=100
fill=yellow /
rect pointer-events=none x=458 y=458 width=4 height=4
fill=green /
/svg
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Hi folks,
Is there a way that I can use the event model to identify all
elements
that overlap a specific point on a mouse down/move event? Or, do
I
have to use clientX/Y and then test each element in turn?
Thanks, Simon
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[svg-developers] Re: pdf conversion
ok, one option would be to send the serialized, modified DOM structure with a network request (postURL/XMLHttpRequest) to a server and let it render by Batik to a different format (PNG, JPEG, PDF). Once the file is rendered on the server, you provide a download link. I use this way in our Yosemite mapping applications to create printable PDF files: http://www.carto.net/williams/yosemite/ -- printing tab. In our solution its not very fast, since for each request it spawns the java engine. Doing it with a servlet engine that always runs and waits for requests would be much faster. Some viewers, like Opera also copy/paste the graphics into the clipboard, which would allow direct copy/pasting into word. However, to reach a wieder audience and span different implementations I would use option 1. This would also allow you to get rid of certain GUI elements (if any) and only render the real graphics part of your file. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would need to provide a user interface to save these SVG images(rendered on IE using ASV plugin) as word/pdf files. In other words, I need to embed these SVG iamges into word/pdf files locally. --- Andreas Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: whats the benefit from converting PDF and/or SVG to Word? Whats the benefit of having Wordfiles anyway? PDF, SVG and Word are totally different file formats with different philosphies. I doubt that one can do any meaningful conversions between those formats. PDF and SVG are closer to each other - those two make sense to convert, but Word? Word is not about graphics, also word can't be precise like PDF and SVG. Word can only embed graphics. On the other hand, SVG is not about mass text/flow text. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, dave ceek63@ wrote: I guess I can then convert PDF to Word if there are no straight SVG-Word conversion tools available? If I don't find any PDF to Word conversion tool, what is the algorithm to write such transcoders? Not sure what is the required effort though? --- Randy George rkgeorge@ wrote: Hi Dave, Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/ search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: SVG Reach
the numbers are hard to reach - somehow they collapsed. Can you repost with a better formatting? I understand that about 50% of your audience would be able to view SVG? I think I have similar numbers. Luckily, the percentage of IE users is decreasing fast. Currently I only have between 40 and 60% IE users, depending on the website. A year before it had been between 55 and 75%. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought I'd share some of the SVG statistics I've gathered over the past 3 or 4 weeks from my visitors. This sample includes 8740 visitors. SVG Support (overall)CountPercentageno438550.2%yes435549.8% SVG Support (specific)CountPercentageno438550.2%yes - Firefox 2.0302534.6%yes - ASV7258.2%yes - Opera2382.7%yes - Firefox 1.51691.9%yes - Safari 3b1451.7%yes - other510.6%yes - Renesis20% I also included data from Corel SVG Viewer plugins, but it turns out there isn't anybody using it (at least in this sample.) As you can see, some form of support for SVG is reaching about 50% of these visitors. Of course your sites will vary, especially since the websites these users in the stats are visiting are probably leaning on the techy side. Stephen B. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: SVG in Safari 1 and 2
Hi Steve, No, Safari 1 and 2 doesn't support SVG. On the old PowerPC the Adobe plugin worked in Safari but on the newer Intel Macs it doesn't. However, Opera 9 works very well on MacOSX. It is even a bit faster than the Windows version, and displays fonts nicer than on Windows. As you know, Safari 3 will include SVG support. You can expect that Mac users will migrate to Safari 3 very quickly, once its out, since it will come with the automatic system updates. Firefox on Mac works sort of, not very fast and with its own bugs. I don't really recommend Firefox on Mac. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not at all familiar with Macs, so perhaps someone out there is. Does Safari 1 or 2 support SVG? If not, are there any plugins available? - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Free SVG viewer
Hi, most of the SVG 1.2 viewers are still under development. The two viewers that are the most complete ones are commercial, from Bitflash and Ikivo. Opera will also support parts of SVG 1.2 Tiny, so will Renesis. But both are still under development, esp. regarding 1.2. Both Opera and Renesis are freely available for use, but not the source code. QT from Trolltech also supports parts of SVG 1.2 tiny. The only viewer that I know in the Open Source that works on SVG 1.2 Tiny is currently GPAC. But this viewer, is also still under development, regarding 1.2 Tiny. Hope this helps, Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, musta_rahaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am looking for a free SVG viewer which is fully SVG 1.2 compliant.Can any one please help me? I have heard of Renesis, but it seems that is not publicly available.How the others are using Renesis? Thanks, - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: xmlhttprequest
Hi Jonathan, here is a tutorial (http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/network_requests/ index.shtml) and an example (http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/ network_requests/index.svg) for what you want. Works in all SVG UAs. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, ~:'' ãããã¨ããããã¾ã ãã [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: xmlhttprequest does anyone know of good simple example(s) for SVG that are currently working, standards based and work on a range of user agents? cheers Jonathan Chetwynd - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: 2 quickies...
Hi Alan, 1. I'm interested in using the Google Maps API to do the brunt of my mapping and drop some SVG (thematic map data) on top. I've seen several examples of this sort of thing as the API supports SVG (in FF and Opera), but none that appear to include support for ASV/plug-in viewers. Is this an unavoidable restriction or is anyone aware of a workaround? this might be one of the limitations of rendering the SVG within a plugin as opposed to native implementation in the browser. I might be wrong, but I believe with ASV within IE one cannot arbitrarily overlay SVG ontop of HTML or vice versa. Maybe one can do something with the binary behaviors within IE, but I haven't looked at this, since it is IE only technology. 2. For some time I've been using carto.net's UI widgets, which is great, but I'm wondering if there's a way of communicating between SVG content and HTML controls that is supported across the main SVG viewing installations (ASV,Firefox,Opera - [yes, and of course, Renesis, Alexander...]).Or - if maximum viewer support is the goal - are we still better off rendering the whole UI in SVG? Communication between HTML and SVG and vice versa should work fine in IE, Opera, Firefox and Safari. In my experience IE7 does not properly work with the object tag, but works fine with embed. SVG UI has some advantages/disadvantages. On the pro side, it integrates well with the rest of the SVG application and one can control the look and feel of the UI better. Also, the UI in SVG can scale with the whole application and adopt to different screen sizes. On the contra, it is harder to code and sometimes the SVG GUI might not work as expected by the user. One can probably fix these issues, but someone has to do it. You have to weigh up the pros and cons against each other and see which one works better for you. Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
