[svg-developers] IE7 and svg
http://ajaxian.com/archives/audible-ajax-episode-18-the-ie7-team There is one question about svg in IE7. Haven't listened to it yet. Jeroen Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer
yeah, I'm waiting for that one ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: I spose we are now in the hands of http://www.gosvg.net/ From: Jon Ferraiolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [svg-developers] Re: Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 15:30:16 -0700 As of when??!?!?!!? What happened??? Leonard -- Hi Leonard (and the other 7455 people on this list), I changed jobs in May, leaving Adobe to join IBM's Emerging Technologies group to help with OpenAjax. I left Adobe for IBM because this OpenAjax opportunity was just too attractive, even though my previous assignments at Adobe were also interesting and fun. (OK. I'll come clean. The REAL reason was I felt hugely embarrassed about living in Silicon Valley and not changing jobs in 13 years.) Here are some URLs on OpenAjax: http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/19187.wss - OpenAjax launched with 15 original members http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/19623.wss - OpenAjax gains 13 additional members http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/05/22/78577_HNajaxforge_1.html - Press report on first OpenAjax Alliance meeting http://ajax.sys-con.com/read/233247.htm - About me taking the reins There will be a lot more information about OpenAjax in the coming weeks. In particular, we are about to unveil our web site, a white paper, outline definition of the OpenAjax Hub (and associated open source project), announcements of new members, and have our second face-to-face meeting. Very cool stuff. Maybe not as cool as SVG or next-generation PDF, but cool nonetheless, and as I have mentioned in previous emails, SVG is becoming a component technology of Ajax. (And I can now hang my head high again in Silicon Valley due to having job-hopped recently.) Jon Jon Ferraiolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Architect, Emerging Technologies IBM, Menlo Park, CA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _ Windows Live™ Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] passing events
When you have 2 graphical objects on top of each other (a rectangle and polygon f.e.), can you make the bottom one get the event when someone clicks on the top object? Purpose is for a gis client to be able to edit a selected feature (bottom one) when some other feature is still visible on top. Jeroen Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Establishing a coordinate system
As regard to the X-axis, you don't have to do anything with the coordinates. What you have to do is placing the viewBox attribute of the svg root element to the left so you can see the negative X coordinates. For the Y-axis there are 2 solutions. The best solution is most GIS-applications is multiplying the Y coordinates with (-1). The other solution is using a group element which contains all other content. To that group element you add a transform attribute which mirrors the Y axis. The downside to this approach is that your text will be upside down. You will also have to place the viewBox upwards if you want to be able to see the content with negative Y coordinates. Probably something like this (correct me if I'm wrong plz): svg viewBox=-100 -100 200 200 ... rect x=-10 y=-10 width=20 height=20 fill=blue /svg This will show an area from x[-100, 100] and y[-100,100] with a blue rectangle in the middle. Jeroen sachin629s schreef: hi all i am calculating certain coordinate points according to the cartesian coordinate with four quadrants how shud i ma them to the svg canvas as the origin of this canvas is the top/left corner and the x axis goes towards the right and y axis moves downwards . pls guide me Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Pan and Zoom
I assume you are talking about svg images. Well, www.carto.net has many examples and tutorials. For your question you should take a look at http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/navigationTools/. Jeroen Alex schreef: Hello everyone, this is my first post here. I am looking for an advice and some examples. I am trying to make a php image (map) which is generated by php from the data in database. All that is done already actually. What I need now is to create functionality to move (pan) and zoom in/out that image I already have. I need to make some pan and zoom buttons or something like that with javascript. Can anyone show me some code snippets to to do this kind of thing? Thank you in advance. A Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] How to make SVGZ from a SVG file?
I think you can also do this at web server level. With Apache you can configure whether you want to use gzip if I'm not mistaken. The same probably works with IIS. Jeroen Fernando Kogik schreef: Hello all, I have an web application where we have to pass a large SVG but the bandwidth is your Bottleneck. For that, i´m think about using Gzip libraries to make an SVGZ file, that can be opened in ASV3.0. Is there any Borland C++ libraries and/or Java libraries to implement Gzip algorithms? Thanks in advance [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Protect your PC from spy ware with award winning anti spy technology. It's free. http://us.click.yahoo.com/97bhrC/LGxNAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] esri shapefiles to SVG?
Andreas Neumann has created a little tool which you can use for free. It is commandline with several options (including id options if I remember correctly). You can get it at http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/utils/shp2svg/. Jeroen csorba_edith schreef: Hi, I am new to the group, so if this question was already debated, sorry for that. I have a problem with transfering shapefiles from ArcMap to SVG format. If I use the export map to SVG format option in ArcMap it doesn't use the coordinates in meters and doesn't add ID's, which I need to connect to my database. I tried using GeoCon, but the output SVG file is more like a map of black stains, than an actual map. I have around 10 shapefiles on the map, and they are quite detailed. Any hint, any help? Thanks. Edith Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Everything you need is one click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Firefox speed
We (researchgroup Docarch) are currently working on a gis webclient. We experience a severe performance problem on Firefox. The content is about 0.5 MB and contains path information of approximately 4000 points. Zooming and panning take about 5 seconds (AMD 1700+, 1GB RAM, Win2k). Is that normal? Can we do anything about that? Jeroen Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Home is just a click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/DHchtC/3FxNAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Google maps SVG support
According to this Ajaxian article, Google Maps will support SVG: http://ajaxian.com/archives/google-maps-svn-support. Jeroen Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Protect your PC from spy ware with award winning anti spy technology. It's free. http://us.click.yahoo.com/97bhrC/LGxNAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: progress on svg viewers?
Yes, Renesis provided an alpha version. There was a 30MB SVG file present. Renesis was the only one able to open it. I tried with Opera, Firefox and IE + ASV: all crashed. So it seems performance is really good there. Too bad it takes really, really long with that Renesis viewer. And it's future still isn't clear. Jeroen Andreas Neumann schreef: your oberservations are quite correct. None of todays SVG renderers/UAs is really capable to display large amounts of data. ... which is not surprising seeing most are Web browsers or browser plugins, and the premisse is that web data is not all that large (or am I being awfully old-fashioned now?). no, absolutely correct for a web application. But if you think about developing a SVG based offline multimedia application or use SVG for scientific visualization offline SVG viewers really should be able to handle larger amounts of data. There is a company called Evolgrafix that's busy on a viewer that's supposed to be much faster and capable (see http://www.gosvg.net/), http://www.gosvg.net/%29, but it keeps being postponed or otherwise delayed (vapourware ?) I think this works fine for most static content (and yes, it is faster than most other SVG UAs), but the DOM stuff isn't cleanly implemented yet. Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership SPONSORED LINKS Xml format http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Xml+formatw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Formatw4=Datac=4s=47.sig=VBa7nBOoFldLj1xsnDMzkQ Svg http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Svgw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Formatw4=Datac=4s=47.sig=a1u0zJydFxGsmrBvlURQ4w Format http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Formatw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Formatw4=Datac=4s=47.sig=sfOdgu_KzJjmF4YOGYLFuw Data http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Dataw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Formatw4=Datac=4s=47.sig=aV25K06F7rKa6A2bKQrzpA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group svg-developers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Home is just a click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/DHchtC/3FxNAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7
Just a question related to this: Since they have VML for vector graphics, which looks like SVG, couldn't they reuse some of its implementation for SVG? Jeroen Doug Schepers schreef: Just a note here to indicate a major obstacle/opportunity for SVG in IE. IE does not currently support DOM2 (much less DOM3), and thus many of the methods and consistency of scripting that we are used to in SVG would not be there if IE implemented SVG today. So, while I am definitely hoping that IE will eventually support SVG, I don't think it will happen until they build a new DOM engine. By that same token, when/if they do build it (and they have to, in order to make a competitive modern browser), SVG will be much easier for them to add on top while they are in the process. Overall, I'm optimistic, but I'm prepared to be patient. Regards- Doug Jeff Schiller wrote: | | Francis, | | Not sure why I'm nominated, but thanks - I guess ;) | | Anyway, I did send a request to Chris Wilson on his personal blog | feedback form for more information regarding SVG in IE and in | particular what was said about SVG and IE at MIX06. I never received | a reply, I assume he's swamped. | | However, tonight the IEBlog did put up links to MIX06 videos (each at | 1-hour long). Go read my summary here: | http://blog.codedread.com/archives/2006/05/04/the-future-of-in | ternet-explorer-and-web-standards/ | there was a small mention of SVG in the middle of one of the videos. | | Regards, | Jeff | | --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Francis Hemsher | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | Hello All, | | I've looked at the recent votes, and its at about 185 and | continuing. | | I guess we could go on for the next few months and build | this to any | number. I think it's time to make a statement to the IEblog, rather | than extend this further. | | I'd like to nominate Jeff Schiller to revisit that blog to present | the SVG Developers Statement, based on the comments from the | voting list. | | This statement would assist the IE7 team to make a | decision, and see | the future if the right decision is made. | | We can quicky build this statement on this list, giving opportunity | for all to provide their input. | | Francis | | --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Doug Schepers doug@ | wrote: | | Hi, Francis- | | Nice work getting this ball rolling. I'm not sure how much affect | it will | have, but it certainly can't hurt. I also posted this to SVG.org. | | Francis Hemsher wrote: | | | | P.S. hopefully we will be a legitimate bug for IE8's native | | SVG Object. | | There will probably be updates between IE7 and IE8... let's hope | they | include SVG ASAP. | | Regards- | Doug | | | | | | | | | | Yahoo! Groups Sponsor | ~-- | Everything you need is one click away. Make Yahoo! your home | page now. | http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM | -- | --~- | | - | To unsubscribe send a message to: | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -or- | visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click | edit my membership | | Yahoo! Groups Links | | | | | | | | -- | No virus found in this incoming message. | Checked by AVG Free Edition. | Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/333 - Release | Date: 5/5/2006 | | - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership SPONSORED LINKS Xml format http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Xml+formatw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Formatw4=Datac=4s=47.sig=VBa7nBOoFldLj1xsnDMzkQ Svg http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Svgw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Formatw4=Datac=4s=47.sig=a1u0zJydFxGsmrBvlURQ4w Format http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Formatw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Formatw4=Datac=4s=47.sig=sfOdgu_KzJjmF4YOGYLFuw Data http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Dataw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Formatw4=Datac=4s=47.sig=aV25K06F7rKa6A2bKQrzpA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group svg-developers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Everything you need is one click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM
Re: [svg-developers] Firefox
The latest version of Firefox has native support for SVG (most of it, mainly animation is yet to come). For Internet Explorer you have to install the Adobe SVG Viewer 3.03, available on the website of Adobe. Jeroen Darrel Yoon schreef: Can Mozilla Firefox support SVG? How to install SVG plug-in into Firefox explorer? - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group svg-developers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Vote for Microsoft SVG
Hello, Could somebody explain again how to vote for this? I logged in with my msn account, registered for something. After that I got the msn screen again, after loggin in I got the register screen again. Why do they make those websites so difficult? It's the opposite of usability. Jeroen Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] (unknown)
Hello, Currently I'm working on a digital city guide which provides walks and multimedia information about the city and its history. I'm using a PocketPC device and eSVG viewer. This viewer has support for SVG 1.1 Full. Though it has lots of problems and bugs. I'm using Visual Studio 2005 to program for this device. I'm using the C++ version because that way I can handle events on svg objects. There is also a .Net Compact Framework available if you want to work with C#. But this version doesn't allow handling events. It's not supported yet. Moreover, The latest version dates from 25-08-2005 I think. Bitflash also had an SDK for PDA. But this one is very low-level C++ and is very complicated to work with. Some people on this list have experience with that I believe. So for PDA's the choices are very limited and there are no prospects for the future. If there are, please tell me about it! :) For mobile phones or smartphones the future looks to be a lot more promising. A lot of devices are being chipped with SVG 1.1 or 1.2 Tiny support. Opera for example has a browser which also allows AJAX applications. Nokia provides several Java API's to work with SVG and mobile applications (JSR-226). Nokia is currently working on the next version of the Java SVG API (JSR-287). While JSR-226 provides Tiny 1.1 support, the new JSR-287 will provide Tiny 1.2 support. Another option would be Tinyline, an open-source java toolkit for Tiny SVG. You could use these Java solutions on PDA (PocketPC) as well, but you'd have to install a Java Runtime Environment. I've tried the one from IBM and that works ok. To conclude: support for mobile phones or smartphones will eventually be better than support for PDA. Probably because PDA's will dissapear and Smartphones will take over, because they will have the same functionality. Jeroen Ronan Oger schreef: maybe ask on [EMAIL PROTECTED] As far as I am aware there are no svg-enabled players today on mobile devices that support svg applications. There are some primitive static svg implementations, but I have never seen an svg application that works on a mobile phone. Several mobile svg viewer vendors have told me that the latest versions of their softwares have an svg player that can handle ajax functionality however, from my limited perspective as an svg application developer, I can only say that so far this is vapour ware to me. Maybe someone on this group can show an svg application that they have used on a mobile device? also, beware of the mobile marketing term 'supports svg'. Generally speaking,mobile technology vendors operate in a closed ecosystem which shields them from the hard fact-checking that one gets with web technologies. When mobile devices claim to support svg, they generally mean today that the device can recieve an mms message with an embedded svg picture and render it. This is still very, very far from the internet's concept of supporting a technology. So where does this leave you, a developer who wants to develop svg applications for a mobile device? If you are satisfied with using svg like web pages without javascript or ajax, then you can build svg applications for mobiles with smil and no state keeping. For this, you simply need to identify mobile devices which support svgt1.0 or svgt1.1 content over http. If you want to use svg as gui layer for interactive devices with state using ajax behaviour, then you need to find out which devices (will) support this and then you need to develop your application like any other ajax application as long as you conform with svg's xml paradigm (there's that word again...). Good luck. Ronan On Monday 24 April 2006 07:08, adis_gundam wrote: How to build svg application(maps) for pocket pc/pda/handphone? - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links -- Ronan Oger Director RO IT Systems GmbH ...Building Web2.0 with SVG since 2001 http://www.roitsystems.com - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership SPONSORED LINKS Xml format http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Xml+formatw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Datac=3s=35.sig=u8RdjEjLCbPTzkUjsFG_JA Svg http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Svgw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Datac=3s=35.sig=BrpyGiBcZ6vcQXDJ7ktaiw Data http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Dataw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Datac=3s=35.sig=CrK_fWaLZ-AZKa5FK8rTGA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group svg-developers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Polygons
Yes I meant lowercase (relative coordinates). These allow path elements to be described in a much shorter way than regular coordinates. I just wasn't sure whether this was possible with polygons. Thx. Jeroen Jeff Schiller schreef: --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jeroen Vanattenhoven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I'm correct polygons can't use the short notations for coordinates which are available for path elements (relative coordinates)? So for maps paths are always better than polygons? Jeroen Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm By short notations did you mean lowercase? For polygon data, there is no command letter, only a list of coordinate pairs. And according to http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/shapes.html#PolygonElement All coordinate values are in the user coordinate system. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership SPONSORED LINKS Xml format http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Xml+formatw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Datac=3s=35.sig=u8RdjEjLCbPTzkUjsFG_JA Svg http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Svgw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Datac=3s=35.sig=BrpyGiBcZ6vcQXDJ7ktaiw Data http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Dataw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Datac=3s=35.sig=CrK_fWaLZ-AZKa5FK8rTGA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group svg-developers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Handling of the virtual pen
Do you mean: http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/shapes.html ? Jeroen lefevrol schreef: Regarding the way lines are drawn, the java.awt.Graphics documentation says: The graphics pen hangs down and to the right from the path it traverses. [This fact] has the following implication: if you draw a figure that covers a given rectangle, that figure occupies one extra row of pixels on the right and bottom edges as compared to filling a figure that is bounded by that same rectangle. I am trying to find similar chapter and verse for SVG because I suspect it is done differently but I cannot locate the place in the SVG spec where this is spelled out. Can somebody point me to the right place? - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group svg-developers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] From clientX/Y or screenX/Y to map coördinates
In eSVG I can use clientX/Y, screenX/Y, getScreenCTM and getCTM (and viewbox). How can I get the map coördinates? It gets even more difficult when you know I can rotate the map. I do this by altering a transform attribute on a group element which contains all layers. Jeroen Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: An SVG Tutorial
Opera is the most brilliant browser there is. I've been using it from version 7. The GUI is somewhat difficult in the beginning, because you can configure practically everything about it. But after a short while it is a wonderful experience. It's also the fastest browser out there. It is incredibly compact (4.11 MB install file), certainly when you know it provides an email-program, download manager, popup blocker, rss-feed reader, irc-chat client and torrent-client. AND it provides native SVG support, which is being implemented at lighting speed. Those guys are really doing a great job. Nobody asks that software works in Opera because it isn't known enough. Firefox stole a lot of the attention, in my opinion because the GUI is really easy, and because of the numerous extensions, themes and so on. Their marketing is also pretty good. Jeroen Richard Gnyla schreef: I actually find Opera browser the worst browser to work with ( but have heard its the most strict when it comes to standards, so it should be the browser we all should get it working in ) With Firefox and IE on PC and Safari / Firefox I am having at least some joy but Opera. My theory is that no one uses it in the real world, Ive never come across a client that has asked whether our software works in Opera.I just hope Opera doesnt go out to the masses if Google / Microsoft buy it...(rumours) Richard Jonathan Watt wrote: On 4/13/06, Richard Gnyla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its getting there but how come Opera with such a small percentage of the browser market can be ahead of Mozilla with SVG? What's market share got to do with being better? I thought the tradition is the more market share you have, the crappier your browser. ;-) Being slightly more serious, Mozilla has one person working full time on SVG, while Opera had two last time I heard. Also the Opera 9 previews are much more recent than the SVG code in Firefox 1.5. Not that this is really a meaningful question with a meaninful answer. The best answer is probably just because. :-) I don't even know that one is really better than the other, and in what ways that might be the case. I haven't used the Opera preview much. -Jonathan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links -- Richard K Gnyla eventex solutions tel . 01905 758 745 mob.07801 365 146 www.eventex.co.uk *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and contain privileged or copyright information. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy, change, distribute or use this email or the information contained in it for any purpose other than to notify us. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete this email from your system. We do not guarantee that this material is free from viruses or any other defects although due care has been taken to minimise the risk. *** - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group svg-developers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Another GIS problem
My icons are already SVG icons. For testing purposes I used the ones that are available on www.carto.net. Phi Tran schreef: On 4/12/06, Jeroen Vanattenhoven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the information Bill. I know this is a generic mapping problem. Is there online material about these problems? The problem of the icons still remains when creating level of detail zooming. We allow the user to turn the map. So Icons will have to be rotated and repositioned. Is there an easy way to do this, or do you have to calculate it everytime and update the icons dynamically? I heard someone talk about labelers which would be software components which where responsable for labeling on maps. Can you point me to any documentation about that?. Documentation?: I only can share you my experience (20(s) yrs graphic programing). Since your Icon is a bitmap. 1- In reservation of the quality it only do good if you rotate it 90-180-270 or mirror it. (other wise the qulaity is not good sometime awful). 2- The quality of an scaled bitmap is fairly OK if you scaled down, but scale up --- uhm, uhm . . . not recommended. 3- Recomendation: Because the Icon it should be small it does not cost you alot to have them converted into vectoring graphic presentation (SVG is one). Best Regards Phi Regards, Jeroen Bill Thoen schreef: Jeroen, This is a generic mapping problem, not unique to SVG. It's similar to the problem of how do you represent a city? At large scales a city is a multi-polygon region, but at smaller scales it eventually becomes a point and at still smaller scales, it shouldn't appear at all (unless it's a particularly big city or the focus of the map.) Likewise, labeling style, positioning and density will change with scale or you'll find that at some scales the map is unreadable. There's all kinds of methods to control cartographic information density, but I think one of the best and simplest is to pre-define fixed scales (e.g. city-wide, district, neighborhood, street, and property) and design layers to look good at each pre-set scale. Then when you display the map set only the layers approriate for the current scale to 'visible' and hide all the rest. You might also restrict the user to choosing only those fixed scales that you have pre-defined and know will look good. An example of this method would be MapQuest and I think Google maps. - Bill Thoen Jeroen Vanattenhoven wrote: Currently I have a city map with a hiking route. I have Points of interest icons on the map. Some of those are points along the route. So I also have icons for the points along the route. For the first point for example I have a number 1 icon and a point of interest icon. For the second point I have a number 2 and a number 3 icon, and a point of interest icon. All belonging to the same point. How do you display that? Because when zooming in, the number icon and the poi icon will have more and more distance between them. How do you handle the problem of overlapping icons? How do you handle the problem of multiple icons belonging to the same geographical point. This is for a digital hiking guide on pda. So for the users convenience, the map can also be rotated. This means the icons also have to be rotated. Jeroen Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership SPONSORED LINKS Xml format http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Xml+formatw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Datac=3s=35.sig=u8RdjEjLCbPTzkUjsFG_JA http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Xml+formatw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Datac=3s=35.sig=u8RdjEjLCbPTzkUjsFG_JA Svg http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Svgw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Datac=3s=35.sig=BrpyGiBcZ6vcQXDJ7ktaiw http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Svgw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Datac=3s=35.sig=BrpyGiBcZ6vcQXDJ7ktaiw Data http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Dataw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Datac=3s=35.sig=CrK_fWaLZ-AZKa5FK8rTGA http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Dataw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Datac=3s=35.sig=CrK_fWaLZ-AZKa5FK8rTGA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group svg-developers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Firefox 2
When will FF2 approximately be released? Jeff Schiller schreef: --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Schiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, gnylarichard richard.gnyla@ wrote: I see the roadmap for Firefox 2 is looking to be released around end Q3, beginning Q4. Does anybody know whether SVG will be improved in the release? Richard They have added support for textPath into Firefox 2 Alpha 1 (called Bon Echo). I think there are some additional bug fixes (implementing the target attribute for the a element, for instance) but my understanding is that only Firefox 3 (early 2007) will have major SVG changes (declarative animation, filters, etc). I know they are also working on improving the performance of the SVG implementation. This involves some re-architecture of the SVG code, so I doubt we'll see this until Firefox 3. If you're interested, you can download a recent trunk build (http://www.squarefree.com/burningedge/) http://www.squarefree.com/burningedge/%29 and start testing it out. Be prepared for lots of regressions, but raise bugs early so they have a good chance to fix them before Firefox 3 is released. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership SPONSORED LINKS Xml format http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Xml+formatw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Datac=3s=35.sig=u8RdjEjLCbPTzkUjsFG_JA Svg http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Svgw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Datac=3s=35.sig=BrpyGiBcZ6vcQXDJ7ktaiw Data http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Dataw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Datac=3s=35.sig=CrK_fWaLZ-AZKa5FK8rTGA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group svg-developers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] SVG in IE - Update
Would XLST be faster/better to do this? Jeroen David Dailey schreef: At 04:50 AM 3/20/2006, you wrote: I have posted an update to IESVG, a simple Javascript behavior that allows inline SVG to be rendered in IE 'natively' using VML to render. I added simple support for gradient fills and svg:g elements. Interesting... am I correct in assuming you are using JavaScript to read the SVG content, and where corresponding VML tags exist (like ellipse:oval and rect:rect and path:curves+lines), you rebuild the content in those VML tags? As I recall the VML gradients were a bit restrictive compared to SVG's gradients, so one could imagine trying to stitch chucks of SVG gradients together to mimic the stop points in SVG. Will VML continue to exist once XAML emerges? DD - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group svg-developers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] SVG DEbug
You could try Ajax Toolkit Framework of IBM which works with Eclipse (http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/ajaxtk). I saw it in action at an AJAX seminar and it really looked promising. It also has support for some of the AJAX frameworks out there (Dojo, Zimbra, ...). They mention that you should be able to add your own js-libraries to the IDE. Jeroen chmavrog schreef: Hello everyone, Does anyone know any tool in order to perform debbuging in SVG documents using ECMA/Javascript? Is microsoft Script Editor and Venkman a possible solution or i must get an IDE software? Thanks Chris, - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership SPONSORED LINKS Xml format http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Xml+formatw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Datac=3s=35.sig=u8RdjEjLCbPTzkUjsFG_JA Svg http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Svgw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Datac=3s=35.sig=BrpyGiBcZ6vcQXDJ7ktaiw Data http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Dataw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Datac=3s=35.sig=CrK_fWaLZ-AZKa5FK8rTGA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group svg-developers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers]GIS Using SVG
Hello, I don't know if you have taken a look at www.carto.net. There are lots of GIS SVG tutorials and sample projects available. The code they used is also open-source (corre ct me if I'm wrong). You can go a long way with the tutorials written there. Jeroen marikhu schreef: Armin Muller. I think I angered you. If I were you (which I wish I were) I would be angrier I guess. Well, I assure you I aint using it for things that goes against the copyright. Well, since I now am in direct contact with you (from MapView), I take this opportunity to ask you if you have any educational version of that javascript.. umm maybe just the basic functions to manipulate SVG DOM. There are lots of information on the web, I agree, but if there already is something which some developer has already created to help new developers, I would surely go for that. So please Armin, if MapView has some very early version of the library file with basic functions, please do let me know. And if what I am asking you is making you angrier, I am sorry. It was just that Mr. Andre feels there you guys might provide me with a basic library (Its always easier to work with something functional already than from the scratch, and I am sure you do agree). And please dont be mad at others because of me. Regards, Ramesh Marikhu AIT Thailand - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group svg-developers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Using JS to Access An Embedded SVG
I don't think this is possible. Fernando Kogik schreef: I have this situation: one SVG file (embed.svg) embeds another SVG file ( test.svg) like above ?xml version=1.0 encoding=iso-8859-1 standalone='no'? !DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD SVG 20001102//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/CR-SVG-20001102/DTD/svg-20001102.dtd; svg version=1.1 image id=TEST xmlns:xlink=http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink; onmouseover=PE(evt) onmouseout=AP(evt) xlink:href=TEST.SVG x=100 y=100 width=500 height=500/ /svg And this file (embed.svg) is embedded in a HTML file. So, what I need is to know if there is a way to acess and modify the attributes of the file test.svg using JS executed from the HTML I would appreciate any help Thanks, KGK [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership SPONSORED LINKS Xml format http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Xml+formatw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Datac=3s=35.sig=u8RdjEjLCbPTzkUjsFG_JA Svg http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Svgw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Datac=3s=35.sig=BrpyGiBcZ6vcQXDJ7ktaiw Data http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Dataw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Datac=3s=35.sig=CrK_fWaLZ-AZKa5FK8rTGA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group svg-developers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] How to import .js files into SVG
Is it possible to load .js files via js-code? With this I mean: is it possible to create packages like in Java and use them with something like import io.gis.something? If not, is there an alternative for JavaScript? Because if you create a whole application (OO) with a lot of .js-files, it looks a bit silly to write script elements every time. Jeroen Omar Abo-Namous schreef: Hi, does one have to place it into defs-section?? I think it works without!? thnx anyway. Omar Jonathan mayer wrote: Place within defs section script xlink:href=./math.js type=text/javascript/ Jonathan --- Neiderer, Andrew (Civ, ARL/CISD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How does one handle multiple external JavaScript ? For example, is it as straightforward as svg height=200 width=200 xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; xmlns:xlink=http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink; script type=text/ecmascript xlink:href=file1.js/script script type=text/ecmascript xlink:href=file2.js/script /svg Thank you. _ From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G. Wade Johnson Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 8:13 PM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [svg-developers] How to import .js files into SVG G. Wade On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 20:59:16 - Henrique G. Testa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, In my project, I must import a .js (javascript) file into an SVG document. I have goggled all over the internet but found nothing. I also have tried the following, without success: svg height=200 width=200 xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; script type=text/ecmascript src=arq.js/script ... /svg Does anybody know how to do this? Thanks for the help! Henrique - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links -- Any time things appear to be going better, you have overlooked something. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership SPONSORED LINKS Xml http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Xml+formatw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Form http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Xml+formatw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Form atw4=Datac=4s=47.sig=VBa7nBOoFldLj1xsnDMzkQ format Svg http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Svgw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Formatw4=D http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Svgw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Formatw4=D atac=4s=47.sig=a1u0zJydFxGsmrBvlURQ4w Format http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Formatw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Formatw http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Formatw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Formatw 4=Datac=4s=47.sig=sfOdgu_KzJjmF4YOGYLFuw Data http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Dataw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Formatw4= http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Dataw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Formatw4= Datac=4s=47.sig=aV25K06F7rKa6A2bKQrzpA _ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group svg-developers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Terms of Service. _ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership SPONSORED LINKS Xml format http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Xml+formatw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Formatw4=Datac=4s=47.sig=VBa7nBOoFldLj1xsnDMzkQ Svg http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Svgw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Formatw4=Datac=4s=47.sig=a1u0zJydFxGsmrBvlURQ4w Format http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Formatw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Formatw4=Datac=4s=47.sig=sfOdgu_KzJjmF4YOGYLFuw Data http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Dataw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Formatw4=Datac=4s=47.sig=aV25K06F7rKa6A2bKQrzpA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group svg-developers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
Re: [svg-developers] Nested defs Event Bubbling
I think you can't read the elements and attributes in the defs section with DOM, when using use elements to display them. The defs section of an svg file is not part of the DOM tree. The only thing you can access is the toolbar use element and its xlink:href=#tbFormat attribute. Jeroen lynchburgloyal schreef: I've seen posts asking questions similar to mine but I'm still not achieving the behavior that I want. Hopefully somewhere here can set me straight. I'm trying to make good reuse of some def elements. Picture this: a toolbar with three buttons - Bold, Italic, Underline. I created elements for each of the buttons and then added them to an element for the toolbar like this (pseudo): defs g id=cmdBold/ g id=cmdItal/ g id=cmdUnln/ g id=tbFormat use xlink:href=#cmdBold/ use xlink:href=#cmdItal/ use xlink:href=#cmdUnln/ /g /defs !-- toolbar -- use xlink:href=tbFormat/ So far, so good. I can treat the toolbar as a single element and my code is neat and clean. What I can't figure out how to do is respond to events for the buttons. I've tried inserting pointer-events=all in different places to see if it helps bubbling but no joy. So, given the defs/use layout above, how can I trap the bold button being clicked? Or access the bold button as a DOM element so that I can read/write its attributes? Sample or pseudo code would be great. In the meantime I will continue to RTFM. LL - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership SPONSORED LINKS Xml format http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Xml+formatw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Datac=3s=35.sig=u8RdjEjLCbPTzkUjsFG_JA Svg http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Svgw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Datac=3s=35.sig=BrpyGiBcZ6vcQXDJ7ktaiw Data http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Dataw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Datac=3s=35.sig=CrK_fWaLZ-AZKa5FK8rTGA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group svg-developers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Rép. : [svg-developers] setAt tribute firefox
Hello, You had something like: var group = svgdoc.createElementNS(null, g); group.setAttribute(id, group); Well, at this moment, it does not exist yet in the DOM. You first have to append it to an element in the document: svgdoc.getElementById(groupParent).appendChild(group); You always use appendChild for this. First you need the parent element in the svg file where you want to attach this new element to. This is the parent (groupParent). From this moment on, it exists in DOM and you can access it: svgdoc.getElementById(group).SetAttributeNS(svgns, transform, translate(0,10)); Jeroen Erwan TROEL schreef: i don't understand your answer - Original Message - From: Jérome de la Goutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:02 PM Subject: Rép. : [svg-developers] setAttribute firefox Hi Souldn't you append group to svgdoc before trying to get it? Jérôme --- Jérôme de la Goutte Responsable de projet ISAGRI Ingéniérie E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Site web : www.terre-net.fr www.isagri.fr tel: 03 44 06 84 04 fax: 03 44 06 55 61 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20/02/2006 12:29 my code works with IE not with FireFox: myGridGroup = svgdoc.createElement(g); myGridGroup.setAttribute(id,myGridGroup); test=svgdoc.getElementById(myGridGroup); alert(test); resultat de alert: null avec FireFox, pas de pb avec IE??? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership SPONSORED LINKS Xml format Svg Data YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group svg-developers on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Click here to report this email as spam. - Ce message a été traité contre les virus par quatre outils différents (Kaspersky, McAfee, Symantec et Huntsman). This message has been scanned for viruses (by Kaspersky, McAfee, Symantec and Huntsman). - - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership SPONSORED LINKS Xml format http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Xml+formatw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Datac=3s=35.sig=u8RdjEjLCbPTzkUjsFG_JA Svg http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Svgw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Datac=3s=35.sig=BrpyGiBcZ6vcQXDJ7ktaiw Data http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Dataw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Datac=3s=35.sig=CrK_fWaLZ-AZKa5FK8rTGA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group svg-developers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Rép. : [svg-developers] setAt tribute firefox
Yes, I know I have to use the proper NS functions :). Have a look at the SVG Authoring Guidelines from Jonathan Watt (http://jwatt.org/svg/authoring/). Very interesting and usefull. I was just concentrating on the problem of this svg user :). (bit lazy) Jeroen G. Wade Johnson schreef: On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:37:49 +0100 Jeroen Vanattenhoven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] svgdoc.getElementById(group).SetAttributeNS(svgns, transform, translate(0,10)); Jeroen Also, remember that the transform attribute is in the null namespace, like most of the SVG attributes. svgdoc.getElementById(group).setAttributeNS(null, transform, translate(0,10)); G. Wade -- Contrary to popular opinion, the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'fact'. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership SPONSORED LINKS Xml format http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Xml+formatw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Datac=3s=35.sig=u8RdjEjLCbPTzkUjsFG_JA Svg http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Svgw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Datac=3s=35.sig=BrpyGiBcZ6vcQXDJ7ktaiw Data http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Dataw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Datac=3s=35.sig=CrK_fWaLZ-AZKa5FK8rTGA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group svg-developers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Adobe SVG ActiveX on PocketPC
Hello, I've tried the C# Wrapper for the Adobe SVG Plugin on desktop. That way you can use that viewer in development on desktop (allowed?). Has anyone been succesfull in using the Adobe SVG Plugin for development on PocketPC. I've tried but I can't get the ActiveX plugin registered on the device. (Reason: Currently I'm working with eSVG which has some severe problems). Jeroen Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] SVG/Ajax vs Flash/Ajax vs Java/Ajax or TCP/IP
Yes, that's true. I can give you a nice example of an SVG mapping application which uses a database for GIS data, PHP, XMLHttpRequest for getting the data, and JavaScript for the application itself. I will give you an idea of what you can do with it. You can find a lot of GIS applications at http://www.carto.net/. There is one you certainly have to see: http://www.carto.net/williams/yosemite/. http://www.stuttgart2006.net/svg/karte.htm is also nice to play around with. CGUI is an example of a widgets library: http://homepage.usask.ca/~ctl271/cgui/. http://brassica.agr.gc.ca/bioviz/bioviz_gb/data.svg is a sample application created with CGUI which uses all kinds of widgets to explore a genome. A drawing application http://resource-solutions.de/svgeditor/. Do bear in mind that some of these (all?) applications do not work yet in FF, because they used some non-standard versions of DOM functions. Adobe SVG Viewer can work with these but FF is much stricter when it comes to following the standard. You can read some very good guidelines at http://jwatt.org/svg/authoring/. Jeroen Goran Pusic schreef: First, thanks to all who replied! If you are serving already-created SVG graphics, then those can be compressed, which also eliminates most of the data file size issue. Yes, it would be something like this, I guess. Also, once the page is displayed, I would like to animate the content using async http requests to get new data values (example: a level gauge displays tank level; when tank level changes, we move the gauge). This is what we do now with ActiveX (we communicate from the background with the device and update the IE screen). I am guessing we can do it using XMLHttpRequest and JavaScript. Is this true? Goran. - Do you Yahoo!? With a free 1 GB, there's more in store with Yahoo! Mail. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership SPONSORED LINKS Xml format http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Xml+formatw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Formatw4=Datac=4s=47.sig=VBa7nBOoFldLj1xsnDMzkQ Svg http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Svgw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Formatw4=Datac=4s=47.sig=a1u0zJydFxGsmrBvlURQ4w Format http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Formatw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Formatw4=Datac=4s=47.sig=sfOdgu_KzJjmF4YOGYLFuw Data http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Dataw1=Xml+formatw2=Svgw3=Formatw4=Datac=4s=47.sig=aV25K06F7rKa6A2bKQrzpA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group svg-developers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] JavaScript Array casting
I've put Label objects in an Array. When I get them out, I can't access
the methods. I assume that the an Array contains 'Object's. How can I
cast from Object to Label? This is the code which currently won't work:
this.mapLabels[count].Remove();
Another question: I currently have an application.js, a map.js (Map
class) and a label.js (Label class). In order to get the onclick events
from svg to the Label class, I have to go through application.js,
map.js. Is there a more elegant way for doing this (maybe directly to
the Label class)?
application.js
=
/**
* Show Label
*/
function ShowLabel(evt) {
map.ShowLabel(evt);
}
/**
* Remove Label
*/
function RemoveLabel(evt) {
map.RemoveLabel(evt);
}
map.js
=
/**
* Show Label
*/
Map.prototype.ShowLabel = function (evt) {
var label = new Label(evt.clientX, evt.clientY, 2, 15, 5, 1, 3, 3,
10, 'label' + this.mapLabels.length, evt.target.getAttributeNS(null,
'fme:NAME'));
this.mapLabels.push(label);
}
/**
* Remove Label
*/
Map.prototype.RemoveLabel = function (evt) {
/* find the label which matches the clicked label by id */
for(var count = 0; count this.mapLabels.length; count++) {
if(this.mapLabels[count].id == evt.target.getAttributeNS(null,
'id')) {
this.mapLabels[count].Remove();
this.mapLabels.splice(count, 1);
}
}
}
label.js
=
/**
* Show
*/
Label.prototype.Show = function () {
...(code)
}
/**
* Remove
*/
Label.prototype.Remove = function () {
try {
svgdoc.getElementById('Names').removeChild(svgdoc.getElementById(evt.currentTarget.getAttribute('id')));
} catch (exception) {
alert(exception);
}
}
Jeroen
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Re: [svg-developers] Has the W3G given up on SVG
Only recently they announced that SVG Tiny 1.2 was going to Last Call: http://svg.org/story/2005/12/8/25052/6825 Jeroen David Nimmons schreef: Have not heard anything in a long time. What is the status of 1.2? - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/199 - Release Date: 13/12/2005 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Renesis asks us what to do
On their website, the people working on Renesis are asking us for our opinion about what to to with the viewer at this moment. As some of you know, the developers team working on the ecmascript engine left the company. They have had a lot of comments/questions about their viewer. At this moment they seem to be willing to release an alpha version of the viewer, but I'm not sure yet. Take a look at http://www.gosvg.net/?p=27#comments and tell them what you think. Scripting is probably not ready yet, other stuff is ready (pretty vague). Jeroen Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/VpTY2A/lzNLAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Zoom Pan
Andre, take a map and let users (or yourself) zoom in. once you know there is a ctrl+drag, you never touch the archaic + and - buttons anymore. it really makes a difference in usablility. Is this impossible when disabling zoom and pan? Is it possible to work this out using JavaScript and event handlers? yes, but what does an interface designed for ~800*600 be good for when it gets fit in a 150*100 display? you know there is an interface, but can you interact with it anymore? I see that 800*600 isn't going to work on 150*100. I had webdesign in mind for desktop screens. Designing websites is pretty difficult for resolutions from 800*600 to 1600*1200. With SVG that problem is gone. Not if you are using 150*100 off course. I'm currently developing on PDA's and those screens are really small :) . this is not the issue. 5 lines of code or 1200 don't harm the viewer. look at what the Google Maps API passes to the browser. i think there is a commitment towards the user of the map. if there is a possibility to let them have a better user experience, then it's not nice if one just cancels those possibilities. when you put an mapping system together, the client side scripting is the easiest/cheapes anyway, even if it produces a lot of code. Yes, it will not harm the viewer. But when I can write something in 10 lines, I won't use another method which takes 50 lines. Better for low-bandwidth connections and the program code will be easier to maintain. are we at 6) ? :) = Have you ever used rotation of a map? I will try this for the pda application when I turn the map according to the walking direction of the user. Seems like a rotate on the map element will do the trick? 7) I've been looking for a way to change the styles of a map (or user interface) on the fly. CSS doesn't work because I can't change the link to the CSS-file. Do you know any methods for this? One example is providing a night and a day map. andré Jeroen Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Zoom Pan
Andre, take a map and let users (or yourself) zoom in. once you know there is a ctrl+drag, you never touch the archaic + and - buttons anymore. it really makes a difference in usablility. Is this impossible when disabling zoom and pan? Is it possible to work it out using JavaScript and event handlers? yes, but what does an interface designed for ~800*600 be good for when it gets fit in a 150*100 display? you know there is an interface, but can you interact with it anymore? I see that 800*600 isn't going to work on 150*100. I had webdesign in mind for desktop screens. Designing websites is pretty difficult for resolutions from 800*600 to 1600*1200. With SVG that problem is gone. Not if you are using 150*100 off course. I'm currently developing on PDA's and those screens are really small :). this is not the issue. 5 lines of code or 1200 don't harm the viewer. look at what the Google Maps API passes to the browser. i think there is a commitment towards the user of the map. if there is a possibility to let them have a better user experience, then it's not nice if one just cancels those possibilities. when you put an mapping system together, the client side scripting is the easiest/cheapes anyway, even if it produces a lot of code. Yes, it will not harm the viewer. But when I can write something in 10 lines, I won't use another method which takes 50 lines. Better for low-bandwidth connections and the program code will be easier to maintain. are we at 6) ? :) = Have you ever used rotation of a map? I will try this for the pda application when I turn the map according to the walking direction of the user. Seems like a rotate on the map element will do the trick? 7) I've been looking for a way to change the styles of a map (or user interface) on the fly. CSS doesn't work because I can't change the link to the CSS-file. Do you know any methods for this? One example is providing a night and a day map. andré Jeroen Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/9QUssC/lzNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] JavaScript Events
I have 2 objects: one for the map (zoom/pan, ...), one for displaying
labels (more objects to come :)). The purpose of the labels class is
displaying a label of a map element like icons for restaurants,
streetnames, rivers, ... . In the SVG map I use
onclick=ShowLabel(evt). How do I get this event handled by the Label
class.
This is the code for my labels (in a normal script file, not a js class
yet):
/**
* OnClick
*/
function ShowLabel(evt) {
var STROKEWIDTH = 2;
var FONTSIZE = 15;
var SPACEX = 5;
var OPACITY = 1;
var RX = 3;
var RY = 3;
var LINELENGTH = 10;
var group = svgdoc.createElement(g);
group.setAttribute(id, label + labelCount);
labelCount++;
group.setAttribute(onclick,OnClose(evt));
var textNode =
svgdoc.createTextNode(evt.target.getAttribute(fme:NAME));
var text = svgdoc.createElement(text);
text.appendChild(textNode);
text.setAttribute(x, evt.clientX - text.getComputedTextLength() /
2 - text.getComputedTextLength() * 0.25);
text.setAttribute(y, evt.clientY - FONTSIZE + 1);
text.setAttribute(fill,rgb(0,0,0));
text.setAttribute(opacity,1);
text.setAttribute(font-size, FONTSIZE);
text.setAttribute(pointer-events,none);
var rect = svgdoc.createElement(rect);
rect.setAttribute(x, evt.clientX - text.getComputedTextLength() /
2 - SPACEX);
rect.setAttribute(y, evt.clientY - FONTSIZE * 1.2 - LINELENGTH);
rect.setAttribute(width, text.getComputedTextLength() + SPACEX * 2);
rect.setAttribute(height, FONTSIZE + FONTSIZE*0.2);
rect.setAttribute(opacity, OPACITY);
rect.setAttribute(fill,rgb(255,255,255));
rect.setAttribute(stroke,rgb(0,0,0));
rect.setAttribute(stroke-width,STROKEWIDTH);
rect.setAttribute(rx,RX);
rect.setAttribute(ry,RY);
var line = svgdoc.createElement(line);
line.setAttribute(x1, evt.clientX);
line.setAttribute(y1, evt.clientY);
line.setAttribute(x2, evt.clientX);
line.setAttribute(y2, evt.clientY - LINELENGTH);
line.setAttribute(stroke, rgb(0,0,0));
line.setAttribute(stroke-width, STROKEWIDTH);
var circle = svgdoc.createElement(circle);
circle.setAttribute(cx, evt.clientX);
circle.setAttribute(cy, evt.clientY);
circle.setAttribute(r, 3);
circle.setAttribute(stroke, rgb(0,0,0));
circle.setAttribute(fill, rgb(255,255,255));
circle.setAttribute(stroke-width, 2);
group.appendChild(rect);
group.appendChild(line);
group.appendChild(text);
group.appendChild(circle);
svgdoc.getElementById(Names).appendChild(group);
}
/**
* OnClose
*/
function OnClose(evt) {
try {
svgdoc.getElementById(Names).removeChild(svgdoc.getElementById(evt.currentTarget.getAttribute(id)));
labelCount--;
} catch (exception) {
alert(exception);
}
}
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[svg-developers] Zoom Pan
Zoom Pan operations on SVG maps are quite common. Mostly those operations are implemented changing the viewBox attributes. Is it possible to achieve the same effect using currentScale and currentTranslate? Not for example on the root svg element, which mostly represents a user interface, but on the svg element which represents the map. If so, why haven't I seen it yet? Jeroen Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Zoom Pan
Andre M. Winter - Carto.net schreef: First of all, thanks for the elaborate answer. hi Jeroen, Zoom Pan operations on SVG maps are quite common. Mostly those operations are implemented changing the viewBox attributes. the problem is that viewBox manipulations are incompatible with currentScale/Translate because on every setting of new viewBox values currentScale/Translate gets set to 1,0,0 whatever they may have been set before. you should never mix those two methods, unless you know exactly what you do (btw i never saw an example doing that and this may be a stong enough argument...) I see. The question I was actually posing was if the currentScale/Translate method would be easier then the viewBox method for maps inside user interfaces. Since currentScale/Translate only work on the outmost svg element, the viewBox method seems more appropiate. no, that cannot work because currentScale/Translate always act on (or represent the state of) the outermost svg, the root element. the way to go is to have your main content zoomed as ever you want and apply inverse transformations (for gs) or inverse screenCTMs (for inner svgs) to the parts that are acting as fixed interface containers. hehe, I'm actually belgian, but followed a german course the last two years, so it will probably be ok :). because it is tricky. there are samples out there but these are not easy to break down in a 5-lines sample script. all this is explained in book coming out feb 2006, but it will be in german first (but you should be able to read it, judging based on your last name...) here is a short description http://www.huethig.de/shop/product.html?id=146899top=1, the companion website will go online jan 2006 at http://svg.carto.net/ (may be offline these times). Could you comment on what you think is the most appropiate/easy way to provide zoom pan for maps in SVG? I only have experience with the viewBox method. Jeroen Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Zoom Pan
hello andre, Andre M. Winter - Carto.net schreef: hi Jeroen the main differences are: 1) when you set zoompan with the viewBox, you have to forbid zoomAndPan through the viewer's functionality (ctrl+something for ASV and Squiggle). as a cartographer this is the biggest drawback. it is possible to rebuild this functionality, but this is hardcore and may only be helpful when having a mapserver behind that delivers SVG I don't see the drawback of disabling pan zoom since you application will probably have a specific user interface for zooming panning the map. Or do you mean with as a cartographer that there are a lot of GIS applications which currently use something similar? (I'm not a cartographer btw). 3) with the viewBox-method your interface is scalable. that may be useful, but i think it is generally not (readability, etc). Not in the sense that you will scale the browser window itself, but it does make sense when you want to provide a user interface which works on different resolutions of the displays of the user. 2) the viewBox-method rather fits for maps where a large part of your screen are devoted to the interface, whereas currentScale/Translate is better for applications with small interfaces and a bigger part for the map itself. I agree. 4) Concerning the implementation I know the viewBox method requires quite some code, but it's far from being too much. When I saw your post, the amount of code required for the other method seemed to be similar. So that probably won't make a difference. 5) I forgot to ask: you mentioned that your book will first be available in german. So will it be available in english later? And can you provide a table of contents for the book? I can't find one on that website. andré Jeroen Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Adobe/Macromedia
There is an email adres on http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/acquisition.html for questions regarding the acquisition. I've send an email with a question for more detailed information about the future of SVG in Adobe. It's not very likely they will respond in detail, but it's worth trying I guess. Jeroen Antoine Quint schreef: On 6 déc. 2005, at 09:52, Doug Schepers wrote: Yes, that's good news, thanks. It's clear, though, that they did not include SVG-Full or sXBL in that continued support. Anyone heard news about EvolGraphix's SVG1.2 plugin? Another thing that it doesn't mention is whether the offering will be maintained (ie. support in future Illustrator and GoLive versions) or expanded (ie. support within Flash or another dynamic content authoring tool). These are the type of things I would really like to know :) Antoine Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Good JavaScript book
I'm looking for a good, up-to-date JavaScript/EcmaScript book. One topic I'd certainly like to be covered is OO with JavaScript (and DOM). If there are any extra's like SVG, or E4X (probably a bit soon), that would be nice too. Can someone recommend a book? Thx. Jeroen Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Anyone know how to deny a text selection?
If you mean when you drag to select text, and you want to disable this: set pointer-events attribute to value none on the text element That should work. Jeroen Vanattenhoven Nikolya Patskov schreef: How to deny a text object selection when I move cursor above it? Thanks. Nikolya. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] does SVG have problem with big coordinates assigned to viewbox?
I've used SVG maps for Belgium which uses Lambert 72 coördinates. This gives you coördinates of for example 172000 189000. Also pretty large. I don't have any problems with that. I did remove all decimal numbers. sent1729 schreef: Hi all, This is the problem that I face. I am using SVG for mapping applications where I have all the maps referenced to big coordinates. There seem to be some rendering issue when I define my SVG viewbox with big coorrdinates. This is what I mean: I have the following SVG file where I have 8 line elements which are equally spaced for ex: svg id =ttt x=0 y=0 width=1020 height=677 viewBox=711316. 4324160.8000 10 10 polyline fill=none style=stroke-width:.05;stroke:rgb(0,0,255); points=711316. 4324160.8000 711326. 4324160.8000/ polyline fill=none style=stroke-width:.05;stroke:rgb(0,0,255); points=711316. 4324161.8000 711326. 4324161.8000/ polyline fill=none style=stroke-width:.05;stroke:rgb(0,0,255); points=711316. 4324162.8000 711326. 4324162.8000/ polyline fill=none style=stroke-width:.05;stroke:rgb(0,0,255); points=711316. 4324163.8000 711326. 4324163.8000/ polyline fill=none style=stroke-width:.05;stroke:rgb(0,0,255); points=711316. 4324164.8000 711326. 4324164.8000/ polyline fill=none style=stroke-width:.05;stroke:rgb(0,0,255); points=711316. 4324165.8000 711326. 4324165.8000/ polyline fill=none style=stroke-width:.05;stroke:rgb(0,0,255); points=711316. 4324166.8000 711326. 4324166.8000/ polyline fill=none style=stroke-width:.05;stroke:rgb(0,0,255); points=711316. 4324167.8000 711326. 4324167.8000/ /svg But when what I see on the screen is completely different. I see that all the lines are unequally spaced. which is wrong. But if I make my viewbox coordinates small( i mean the x and y attribute of viewbox), then I see the same line elements equally spaced on the screen. For ex: svg id =ttt x=0 y=0 width=1020 height=677 viewBox=316. 160.8000 10 10 polyline fill=none style=stroke-width:.05;stroke:rgb(0,0,255); points=316. 160.8000 326. 160.8000/ polyline fill=none style=stroke-width:.05;stroke:rgb(0,0,255); points=316. 161.8000 326. 161.8000/ polyline fill=none style=stroke-width:.05;stroke:rgb(0,0,255); points=316. 162.8000 326. 162.8000/ polyline fill=none style=stroke-width:.05;stroke:rgb(0,0,255); points=316. 163.8000 326. 163.8000/ polyline fill=none style=stroke-width:.05;stroke:rgb(0,0,255); points=316. 164.8000 326. 164.8000/ polyline fill=none style=stroke-width:.05;stroke:rgb(0,0,255); points=316. 165.8000 326. 165.8000/ polyline fill=none style=stroke-width:.05;stroke:rgb(0,0,255); points=316. 166.8000 326. 166.8000/ polyline fill=none style=stroke-width:.05;stroke:rgb(0,0,255); points=316. 167.8000 326. 167.8000/ /svg Why does this happen. 'am I missing something. Please help with any input. Thanks, Nathan - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: protecting SVG is pointless - was Re: [svg-developers] Protect SVG - Was Re: Today's Joke: Printing SVG in IE
Ronan Oger schreef: More protection musings, For most of us, there is no point in protecting the SVG markup. The only value of the markup is that it generates a recognizable design and a behaviour, and that can be stolen by copying the results, rather than going through the huge trouble of understanding the markup details. More I see SVG, less I understand why people want to 'protect' it. If we were talking about high-grade artistic images or clipart, I might would understand the reasoning. However, since most of us are talking about GUIs and web applications with serverside componetns, I simply do not see the point. What about GIS data? Currently there are a lot of GIS projects using SVG. I can imagine that GIS companies would like to protect their data. Jeroen Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: protecting SVG is pointless - was Re: [svg-developers] Protect SVG - Was Re: Today's Joke: Printing SVG in IE
In projects our research group is working on, there are GIS companies involved. So when we get there data (in Shape format), there is already a watermark present? Robin Berjon schreef: On Nov 14, 2005, at 10:31, Jeroen Vanattenhoven wrote: What about GIS data? Currently there are a lot of GIS projects using SVG. I can imagine that GIS companies would like to protect their data. Once again, hiding access to the code does not protect your GIS data. GIS companies have a long experience protecting the data they ship, notably using some form of watermarking (often by introducing small errors in the output). It was always easy to steal GIS data by having a few fast small hands reproduce it based on a printed map, using SVG adds nothing new (and using a binary format won't help either, for instance it's quite trivial to get data out of a SWF file). However whichever the means you use, if you use it widely you'll get caught by the watermarks, because they'll show no matter whether you took the data by copying a printed map, munging an SVG document, or running a vector tracing program on a GIF. Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: protecting SVG is pointless - was Re: [svg-developers] Protect SVG - Was Re: Today's Joke: Printing SVG in IE
Doug Schepers schreef: You should ask your data providers about that. Even so, you should put your own in there, so that you can protect your own investment and liability. This is a paper which was presented at Enschede (I saw the presentation): http://www.svgopen.org/2005/papers/firemark/. Is this the way to do that, or are there other (better) ways? Jeroen Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: protecting SVG is pointless - was Re: [svg-developers] Protect SVG - Was Re: Today's Joke: Printing SVG in IE
Ronan Oger schreef: Are you using GIS data or SVG pictures of the GIS model? We use SVG conversions of Shape files. We altered the layers of the map, and will add additional information to the map (and interactivity). SVG is a model of a picture, whereas GIS is a model of geographic data. A picture of a car is not the same as the engineering drawing of a car. And a screenshot of an Autocad drawing does not give away the car CAD drawing. There is loss in the conversion process, and the same happens with GIS-SVG transformation. I'm wondering if the result of the conversion (svg picture) is not important? It still contains some geographic data: rivers, borders, roads, ... . As I've read here, some GIS companies probably insert a watermark (to the coordinates of the river, border and road elements?). That would be very useful in my opinion. Ronan Jeroen Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Borders for Path
Do you mean you want to give your path lines a different colour for the inside and the outside (edge)? In this case, I have already posted this question to the svg mailing list and the answer was no. Current SVG standard doesn't allow that. Next SVG standard will make that possible through the use of Vector Effects (http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-SVG12-20041027/vectoreffects.html). The only way to get such lines with the current SVG standard is drawing the path twice. Each time with a different stroke-width and a different stroke. It might be best to define your path elements inside the defs element on top of your svg file. Then you can reference those paths using the use element and apply the different stroke-with and stroke to the use element: ... defs g id='L5-0' path d='M0 111l24 6 ... '/ path d='...'/ ... /g /defs g id='Streets' use xlink:href='#L5-0' fill='none' stroke='rgb(180,180,180)' stroke-width='8' stroke-linecap='round' stroke-linejoin='round'/ use xlink:href='#L5-0' fill='none' stroke='rgb(255,255,255)' stroke-width='6' stroke-linecap='round' stroke-linejoin='round'/ /g ... Jeroen Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Please subscribe me
To subscribe to this newsgroup, send a mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jeroen Vanattenhoven Ashok Kumar G schreef: please subcribe me Thanks - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/142 - Release Date: 18/10/2005 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] setAttributeNS is dumb,dumb,dumb!
I agree. I really don't know what the fuss is all about. instead of: setAttribute(myAttr,myAttrValue) you get: setAttributeNS(ns,myAttr,myAttrValue) = 5 extra characters Is that so much to ask? There really worse things happening in the world I believe. And for the 5 extra characters you can: - be in compliance with the standard - = there fore be a little bit more cross-platform - use multiple namespaces, which I currently need and use in my SVG applications, as do a lot of other people Jeroen Robin Berjon schreef: Francis Hemsher wrote: How many of you just love to type about 100 extra keystrokes for any SVG element you want to create or access? With the amount of keystrokes you've wasted on this discussion you'd have had time to create your own helper library that does things the way you like them, and then some. Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Change map styles
Hello, I currently have a few mapstyles in seperate css-files (f.e. map1.css map2.css ...). On top of my svg document I have: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8 standalone=no? ?xml-stylesheet href=map1.css type=text/css? Is there a way to change the href value via DOM? By the way, the second row is called a processing node? Jeroen Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] SVG animation
Opera 8 supports (natively) some animation (Tiny SVG I believe): http://www.opera.com/features/svg/ If you install Adobe SVG 3, I think it only works for Netscape and Internet Explorer. These combinations should work immediately. You can also use Adobe SVG 3 with Firefox and Opera with some extra steps (copy some files into plugin map of those browsers): http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=466 Since you're a beginner: here are some nice sites with lots of examples: http://www.svgbasics.com/ http://www.kevlindev.com/tutorials/basics/index.htm I can also recommend some authoring guidelines: http://jwatt.org/svg/authoring/ Jeroen Vanattenhoven reindeer21005 schreef: I am just a beginner to SVG. I am trying to get animation working. Can someone tell me the right combination of browser and plugin I need ? I have Netscape 8 and installed ASVG 3, and have tried it with Mozilla Firefox and the above plugin. But nothing happens when I try running an animation in Cagle's SVG Programming book. Maybe I need ASV6 but I can't find it on the Adobe website. Thank you for any guidance. - Andrew M. Neiderer US Army Research Laboratory. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Streetnames text problem
Hello, I've included streetnames for my map. I just put them on the path of the street which work very nicely. The problem is that with real coördinates the Y-axis points up and for SVG points down. My whole map has a transform=scale(1,-1) attribute which makes my map look correct and not upside down. When I want to display my text now, it is shown at the correct position, but is shown mirrored. If I put my text outside the element with scale(1,-1), the text isn't mirrored, but it is shown at the wrong position. Any thoughs? Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Path and brush
Hello, I recently posted a question about path elements which I wanted to use as streets. The conclusion was that I had to draw 2 path elements on top of each other, preferably by using use. Wouldn't it be better to have a kind of brush (like in Adobe Photoshop) in SVG, with which you can draw more complex lines easily without having to do that twice? Are there plans in that direction? Or am I talking nonsense here :)? Jeroen Vanattenhoven Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Path and brush
Hi, Since I'm using eSVG for the moment, I can't wait for vector effects (too bad :(). Are there examples of this online, maybe on there carto.net site that you know of? Thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: hi jaroen, as far as i know, no. another way of droing complex lines is to create special fonts and align textstrings to your base line object (width offsets and whatever you need) , see textPath. basically these are methods know from desktop mapping that remain with SVG. but there is some help for cartograpy coming that may address other mapping issues, see http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-SVG12-20041027/vectoreffects.html. andré Hello, I recently posted a question about path elements which I wanted to use as streets. The conclusion was that I had to draw 2 path elements on top of each other, preferably by using use. Wouldn't it be better to have a kind of brush (like in Adobe Photoshop) in SVG, with which you can draw more complex lines easily without having to do that twice? Are there plans in that direction? Or am I talking nonsense here :)? Jeroen Vanattenhoven Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: DOM Nodelist whitespace
OK, thanks.
Another related question: there are 2 (?) ways of going through the nodes:
1: childNodes[i]
2: childNodes.item(i)
Is there one method we should use (why then?) or is that not important?
Jeroen
Jonathan Watt schreef:
On 9/20/05, Martin Honnen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
var childNodes = someElement.childNodes;
for (var i = 0; i childNodes.length; i++) {
var childNode = childNodes[i];
if (childNode.nodeType == 1) { // element node
// process element node if you want
}
else if (childNode.nodeType == 3) { // text node
// process text node if you want
}
}
Why not loose the comments and use the self commenting constants?
if (childNode.nodeType == childNode.ELEMENT_NODE) {
...
}
else if (childNode.nodeType == childNode.TEXT_NODE) {
...
}
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Re: [svg-developers] Re: DOM Nodelist whitespace
Yes it should, but it doesn't :(. I tried this with ASV + IE and they only provide the numbers. Cameron McCormack schreef: Martin Honnen: What you suggest, childNode.ELEMENT_NODE, is not supported in Adobe SVG viewer either. Nor in other DOM implementations I know, beside Mozilla's DOM implementation. This works in Batik. It should work in all conformant viewers, AFAICT, since those constants are members of the Node interface, which all of the DOM nodes should implement. Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] DOM Nodelist whitespace
Hello, The next example http://www.zvon.org/xxl/DOM2reference/Output/ shows that .childNodes.length depends on the presence of whitespace in the xml-document. For certain things in my application I need to work with the childNodes. But for editing that whitespace is present. I don't want to write 2 versions. (4 childNodes without whitespace returns 4; with whitespace returns 9) Are there editors which leave out the whitespace and still show you indentation of the xml-document? Or do I have to process my document with xsl (for example) to get rid of the whitespace for a release version of my document. Thanks, Jeroen Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
