Re: [svg-developers] opera 9.5 and 9.6 do not shrink embed svg
philsvg2 wrote: Hi All, I had upgrade my web site http://www.visualkit.com http://www.visualkit.com so it is now compliant with FF 3.0, IE+ASV3, and Opera 9.25 (svg-html-svg communication, as always, you can grab the code as example, all necessary code is in html or svg page (sorry, not very clean, i have to wash it) I have to test it with google chrome, renesys, safari (first test months ago shows printing is not in good scale) (great to see so much svg browsers!) But when I upgraded Opera 9.25 to 9.5, i saw that embed svg was not shrink, scrollbars appear around svg document as with opera 9.6 beta, and FF 2. Yes, it's one of the issues that we fixed in Firefox 3. I can't find any option to force svg document to fit embed tag size and i reported this as a bug to opera team. you can test this here http://www.visualkit.com/bug/carre_txtur_emb.html http://www.visualkit.com/bug/carre_txtur_emb.html I believe they are already aware of the issue, but it's good to keep this on their radar. ;-) Jonathan - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] external css + pattern in FF3
That's a bug in Firefox. Linking in the style sheet using the xml-stylesheet
should work just as well as having the CSS inline in the SVG file.
indrek.meagi wrote:
Firefox 3 beta 3 render not pattern if css part is not in svg file.
Example:
My.SVG:
?xml version=1.0?
?xml-stylesheet href=styles.css type=text/css?
!DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD SVG 1.0//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/DTD/svg10.dtd
http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/DTD/svg10.dtd
http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/DTD/svg10.dtd
http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/DTD/svg10.dtd
svg xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg http://www.w3.org/2000/svg
http://www.w3.org/2000/svg http://www.w3.org/2000/svg
xmlns:xlink=http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink
http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink
xml:space=preserve width=200 height=280
titlexxx/title
defs
pattern x=0 y=0 width=10 patternUnits=userSpaceOnUse
id=ggpatt height=10
rect x=0 width=10 y=0 height=10
style=fill:yellow; stroke:none;/
g style=fill:black; stroke:black; stroke-width:1
circle r=2 cx=5 cy=5/
/g
/pattern
/defs
rect x=0 width=100 y=0 height=80 class=gg/
/svg
styles.css:
.gg {fill:url(#ggpatt);stroke:black;stroke-width:1;}
If I add to svg file following css part then it works:
style type=text/css ![CDATA[
.gg {fill:url(#ggpatt);stroke:black;stroke-width:1;}
]] /style
Is this bug or feature or I'm doing something wrong???
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Re: [svg-developers] Please test your SVG in Firefox 3 Beta 3
Hi David, I'm glad to hear that you're generally impressed with the beta. Regarding the choking filters, some work is ongoing to improve filter performance. It would be good to have a list of the SVG files containing filters that you're having problems with for us to test against. Thanks for the links to the SVG files that are causing crashes. As you say, crashing is definitely not the desired behavior. ;-) I've filed a bug for the issue with these files at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=418206 BTW, if you file bugs using the link I provided you will be automatically filing the bug in the SVG component, so no need to hunt for it. You just need to fill in the Summary and Details fields in the form. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Corecomponent=SVG Thanks a lot for taking the time to test. Hopefully these bugs will be ironed out for you by the time of the official release of Firefox 3. Jonathan ddailey wrote: Hi Jonathan, thanks for your information. I am overall quite impressed with the progress. Lots of things are now working that I didn't expect to be. Lots of filters, though it seems to be choking on some compound filters. I started filing some bug reports before I read your message in its entirety. I'll look through the known issues stuff and try to find the SVG part of the bug reporter for future stuff. All in all quite a good many forward steps! In case it doesn't get through the channels properly, the following sites seem to cause FF3beta just to plain crash: http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/newstuff/path5.svg http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/newstuff/path5.svg http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/newstuff/path6.svg http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/newstuff/path6.svg http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/newstuff/path7.svg http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/newstuff/path7.svg (8 , 8a, 9 and 10 too) I can't certify that my code is proper (though the above work in IE/ASV, Opera and Safari), but crashing is probably not the desired behavior. cheers, David - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Please test your SVG in Firefox 3 Beta 3
Hi all, As some of you will have noticed, the third beta of Firefox 3 was released earlier this week. http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2008/02/12/firefox-3-beta-3-now-available-for-download/ Things are now getting pretty solid so now would be a great time for people to try it out and test it on their SVG. At this late state of development the emphasis is firmly on regressions -- please report any SVG that works fine in Firefox 2, but seems broken in some way in this latest Firefox 3 beta. The more eyes we have on this the better. For anyone interested in testing, I'd suggest reading the release notes, at least from the Download section through the Known Issues section: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0b3/releasenotes/#download If you do find any SVG issues, the preferred method of reporting them is to file them in the SVG component of Mozilla's bugzilla: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Corecomponent=SVG If that seems too much trouble then please do mention them here rather than let them slip through the net. :-) Best regards, Jonathan - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] ctrl+click on use with wlink:href on firefox
deluxepotatoe wrote:
I'm using a reference to a symbol like following :
{{{
use xlink:href=#symbol-railroad_crossing /
}}}
My problem is that ctrl+click on such an element opens a new tab under
FF2.
Is there any known way to prevent this ?
You can try adding something like onclick=if (evt.ctrlKey)
evt.preventDefault(); to your use/.
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Re: [svg-developers] Good SVG progress in Opera 9
On 5/8/06, Jonathan Chetwynd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
two alert dialogues
Object SVGGElement (evt.Target)
symbol2 (evt.Target.id)
Firefox1.5
Mozilla shouldn't be doing that.
You should use .getAttribute('id') instead of .id
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Re: [svg-developers] Re: Good SVG progress in Opera 9
On 5/8/06, Jim Ley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You should use .getAttribute('id') instead of .id
but if you're going to do that, then you might want to read this excellent
article by one Jonathon Watt:
http://jwatt.org/svg/authoring/#namespace-aware-methods
Err, *cough*. Not my day, is it?
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Re: [svg-developers] Re: Good SVG progress in Opera 9
Oops. Thanks for the correction. Now where's the embarrassed smily in gmail?
On 5/8/06, jookeda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, if you were to examine the SVGElement interface in the SVG
1.1 DOM specification:
http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/types.html#InterfaceSVGElement
You'll see the id property as being well-defined. If an agent
implements the SVG DOM, it *should* implement that property as well,
making it perfectly alright to use (and much more convenient than
getAttribute(id)).
-Jason Davis
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Jonathan,
that's extremely kind once again, I just can't get my head around
supporting different ways of doing stuff. ASV also supports both...
thanks
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Jonathan Chetwynd
On 8 May 2006, at 10:26, Jonathan Watt wrote:
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Re: [svg-developers] SVG Scriting Across FF and IE. FAQ
Hi, On 5/3/06, chmavrog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, On my pc i have IE 6 and ASV3 and FireFox 1.5.02 (latest one). Actually 1.5.0.3 is the latest one. ;-) Here are my questions.Please someone respond with Correct or False after seeing my answers -Object tag is HTML 4.01 but embed tag is not. My answer(True) True. The embed tag is not part of any W3C standard. -In FF, object and embed tag can be used to show SVG documents.My answer(True) True. So can iframe. -In IE6 only embed tag can be used to show SVG documents.My answer (True) False. You can use the object and iframe tags. -If i want to embed an svg document inside an html document and want to script from HTML2SVG and SVG2HTML i must use embed tag for IE6 + ASV3 My answer(True) You can probably use iframe as well I think, but it's true you can't really script across object in IE+ASV. -If i want to embed an svg document inside an html document and want to script from HTML2SVG and SVG2HTML i must use embed or object tag for FF My answer(false) You can use embed, object or iframe. All allow scripting across in either direction. -Object tag does not support scripting.My answer(True) False. ASV doesn't support it in IE because of a security hole, but other browsers should. Thanks in advace Chris Regards, Jonathan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: SVG Scriting Across FF and IE. FAQ
Demo: http://jwatt.org/svg/demos/xhtml-with-inline-svg.xhtml Docs: http://wiki.svg.org/Inline_SVG On 5/3/06, chmavrog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin, is there a link that you can sent me in order to see this for IE+ASV --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Martin Honnen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, chmavrog chmavrog@ wrote: -Inline SVG is currently supported only in FF,which supports XHTML, and not in IE6 + ASV. My answer(True) Opera 8 and Opera 9 beta also support mixed namespace XML documents with XHTML and SVG elements. As for IE and the Adobe SVG viewer, IE has its very own concept of HTML (not XHTML!) with namespaces where a plugin can implement the elements in a namespace and Adobe uses that to provide support for inline SVG inside of HTML documents with IE. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: recommend web hosting service that supports SVG?
Hi Garry, Those are great instructions for plain SVG files. Do you mind if I add a link to them from the SVG wiki? The instructions aren't enough for .svgz files though. Simply adding the type image/svg+xml is for the .svgz filename extension is not enough. That will sort out the Content-type header, but not the Content-encodeing header, and the server has to send |Content-encoding: gzip| with .svgz files. Now that you remind me, it was *this* that I couldn't find a good solution to for IIS. So what I should have said is that IIS will be painful if you want to serve .svgz files. Regards, Jonathan On 4/30/06, Garry Haywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IIS 5.0 for SVG mimetype is relatively straightforward I have some instructions here: http://www.betamodel.com/iis5_and_svg_mimetype hope this might help you. --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, TJ Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Earthlink offers UNIX/Apache. I may need to switch from a Windows web hosting account to a UNIX acct! Currently, my account is hosted on an IIS 5.0 server. I've been working with Tech Support via two telephone calls to get SVG added as a MIME type, and it has been a pain. They offered this solution for adding SVG on my own (remotely): http://rtfm.atrax.co.uk/articles/article_11.asp but they didn't provide any details. I tried it by switching localhost to the IP address for my Earthlink server, but it didn't seem to work. Of course, I don't know WSH that well and I'm pretty sure some code must be missing here if you are trying to add a MIME type remotely. One Tech Support representative said he did talk with an engineer at Earthlink who thought it should work, but he was going to check back with that engineer for further clarification on the steps. If I find out, I'll let you know. I raised the issue with Earthlink that they should just support SVG as a standard MIME type on all servers. I pointed him to SVG Web sites with more info. The Tech Support rep said he would raise this issue with his engineers to see if they can make the change. It would be nice to get some large ISPs to do so. So, stay tuned. (Maybe give Earthlink a call, too! It might be an opportune time to get them to make the change if they get a number of comments/requests at once.) In the interim, my fall-back position is to switch the account to UNIX. It's cheaper anyway. And, of course, we know why SUN is cheaper than MS! ;-) Cheers, TJ -Original Message- From: Jonathan Watt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Apr 27, 2006 3:25 PM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [svg-developers] recommend web hosting service that supports SVG? Peter, Any hosting company that provides Apache hosting and allows you to write your own .htaccess files should be fine. If you have that, then you can support SVG and gzip encoded SVG on your site regardless of the server configuration. See � http://wiki.svg.org/Server_Configuration:Apache If you want support for gzip encoded SVG I'd recommend you stay away from IIS hosting. The work arounds required for gzipped SVG aren't fun. Regards, Jonathan On 4/27/06, Peter Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone please recommend a reliable, inexpensive web hosting company that supports SVG?� I have very few requirements: 1)supports .svg files 2)supports .svgz files (I found one that supports svg but not svgz) 3)inexpensive You can respond via private email if you think that a public response is too much like advertising. Thanks. Peter __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam?� Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership SPONSORED LINKS Xml formatSvgFormatData YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * �Visit your group svg-developers on the web. � * �To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] � * �Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups
Re: [svg-developers] Re: to display embeded SVG in Firefox
Hi talki, I suspect this is a bug in Firefox. If this is the bug I suspect, there are no good instructions on fixing things yet, but I'm going to write some up and add them to mozilla.org. In the mean time, try the following: 1) Close Firefox 2) Find your Firefox profile directory (see http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/profile#locate ) 3) Find the file mimeTypes.rdf in the profile directory 4) Save a copy of the file somewhere safe 5) Delete that file from your profile directory 6) Restart Firefox 7) Restart Firefox and load http://jwatt.org/svg/demos/svg.svg If that file works for you, then unfortunately your mimeTypes.rdf file has been corrupted. I'm still trying to work out a fix for this problem. :-/ You may actually not need the copy of mimeTypes.rdf that you saved. If you experience any problems opening files from your hard drive using Firefox then send the copy to me and I'll clean it up for you. If you don't experience any problems then you don't need it. Firefox will have generated a new one for you (it just won't have any of the types that got added since you installed Firefox). I'll send you a link to the document I write once I get to it. Regards, Jonathan On 4/30/06, talkli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, i have read this page,it seems to be a firefox bug.And i also followed the steps suggested by the people there. But it doesn't work. Did u also try it? Do u have the same problem? regards Di Check whether any of the hints in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=303581 help to solve the problem. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: to display embeded SVG in Firefox
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Re: [svg-developers] Re: to display embeded SVG in Firefox
There _is_ a bug in Firefox, but most people don't encounter it (I hope). Certain series of actions can lead to your Firefox profile's mimeTypes.rdffile being corrupted so that embedded SVG that used to work for you, may suddenly stop working. On 4/30/06, Richard Gnyla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had this problem before, not a FF bug cos it should work embed src=floorplan.svg id=svgmap name=svgmap type=image/svg+xml height=610 width=740 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] image onload
Have you guys tried svgDoc.getElementById(I).reload(); ? On 4/27/06, David Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 09:34 AM 4/27/2006, you wrote: try setting the onload from in javascript - that's what i'm attempting and she no work. Oh... now I see what you're talking about -- I tried the following (avoiding your function() constructor to simplify things): I=svgDoc.getElementById(I)//the image tag in SVG IM=new Image() IM.src=../p17.jpg IM.onload=announce //a function containing an alert() I.setAttributeNS(xlinkns,xlink:href,IM.src) It works in FF and Opera, and it works once in IE. Once the image has loaded once, the browser seems to cache the memory of it being loaded already so it only works once (try renaming the file and pointing the browser at a new file -- I'll be you can get the function to activate again. Note: I did this by building a virtual image in JavaScript rather than assigning an onload attribute to the image tag -- I don't know if this matters. Once might be enough for many purposes, but I agree that the problem is a problem and will hope others can help us out. I would share your interest in finding a solution to this. David - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] object vs embed Re: An SVG Tutorial
Hi David, On 4/17/06, David Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 09:47 AM 4/17/2006, Jeff Schiller wrote: Also, shouldn't you be using object in Firefox and Opera? I don't know. I was wondering this very question yesterday and did some simple experiments seeing if I could script across HTML to SVG using objects or for that matter iframe's instead of embed's. I was unsuccessful and that seemed generally consistent with what I read from some other folks. You can see examples of cross-browser scripting across object and embed at: http://jwatt.org/svg/demos/scripting-across-embed.html http://jwatt.org/svg/demos/scripting-across-object.html I'd recommend you use embed if you're concerned with compatibility with ASV since it blocks scripting across object due to a security issue. I understand that object is supposed to become groovy at some point in time, but where might I see examples of how to script the stuff inside one of them? thanks, dpd - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] reporting bugs Re: An SVG Tutorial
Hi guys, On 4/17/06, Jeff Schiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, David Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. I usually figure if something doesn't work, someone is usually aware of it -- for example at http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/intro/turbulence.html I am able to get the tolerance of a numOctaves of an feTurbulence, but am unable to set it, in Opera 9.0, though I can do both in IE. The best bet is to float the problems in public forums first (i.e. this mailing list or the forums at http://my.opera.com/community/forums/). Generally Opera developers monitor those pretty closely and will let you know if it's a known bug, whether it should be raised as a bug, or it's something you're doing wrong. I can't speak for Opera, but in the case of Mozilla this seems like a good approach. We really need more testing of preview releases to get feedback on bugs that are really holding people back and to catch regressions. In general we prefer bugs to be filed in bugzilla, but each bug filed takes up developer time (a very scarce resource) whether it's a real bug or not. Asking fellow contributors to this list whether something is a bug or not therefore seems like a good idea. The less of our time is spent reading, closing and explaining invalid bug reports, the more time we can spend on fixing real bugs. That said, we definately do need people downloading, testing and giving us feedback before official releases are made. Jonathan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] can someone validate the code
Another reason not to use a DOCTYPE declaration. The version attribute is good. Leave it in and nuke the DOCTYPE instead. :-) On 1/30/06, Peter Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The SVG file validates in XMLSpy when the version attribute is removed from the SVG element, so that line looks like this: svg width=120mm height=40mm xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg/ Your original SVG file displays in ASVG3 both with and without the version attribute (ASVG3 does not complain about the version attribute). --- danfreno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have a problem with importing this in coreldraw and i just wanted to be sure that the file is correct, a supporter i mailed with told me that there was an error Syntax error line 1,colum 0 but i dont the error myself ?xml version=1.0 standalone=no? !DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD SVG 20001102//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/CR-SVG-20001102/DTD/svg-20001102.dtd; svg width=120mm height=40mm xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; version=1.0 g transform=scale(0.1) g style=font-family: Helvetica-Narrow; rect x=0mm y=0mm width=163.2mm height=49.6mm stroke-width=0.1mm style=stroke:rgb(255,0,0);fill: none;/ text x=83.2mm y=24.8mm text-anchor=middle dominant-baseline=mathematical style=font- size:13.043478mm;GHGHGH/text /g /g /svg the problem is the dominant-baseline=mathematical __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] 'font-size' and 'text-rendering' Error
Sounds like you're using Mozilla Firefox and that you've encountered the problem explained here: http://jwatt.org/svg/authoring/#specifying-units -Jonathan On 1/30/06, RODOLFO MORENO LLACZA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks: My code get this error: - Error in parsing value for property 'font-size'. declaration dropped. - also there are text-rendering errors. someone knows why? the file attach show you more detail. regards Rodolfo - Do you Yahoo!? With a free 1 GB, there's more in store with Yahoo! Mail. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: How do I embed one svg file in another? (FF)
On 1/25/06, Martin Honnen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Watt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about looking into the SVG specification then instead of making things up? That's a little harsh. :-) This is his/her first post to the list, so maybe give them a chance, eh? ;-) My introductory comment was not all I posted, rather I gave precise links and explanations in the same post where to find the information. That is much of a chance given to follow then. Absolutely! You provided all the information they needed which I'm sure was very helpful, and I didn't mean to imply otherwise. By give them a chance I meant give them a chance to post a few times before deciding on their character and giving such a rebuke. :-) All the best, Jonathan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: How do I embed one svg file in another? (FF)
Hi Martin, On 1/24/06, Martin Honnen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, seanmc_42 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got into SVG via the Firefox 1.5 browser... Experimenting - in an html file you can do an object or embed, but what do I use in another SVG file? How about looking into the SVG specification then instead of making things up? That's a little harsh. :-) I think he/she was just trying to demonstrate what they wanted, not say that was valid or that they expected it to work. Not everyone knows how to read W3C specs, and althought it can be annoying when people try to get you to do all their homework for them, I'm not sure that's the case here. This is his/her first post to the list, so maybe give them a chance, eh? ;-) All the best, Jonathan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Passing values from HTML to SVG
On 1/10/06, Christopher Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jonathan, I put in some CSS in the HTML code, but other than that, a few cosmetic changes and removing the redundant link to the file bytehex.js, I made no changes to the Javascript, then uploaded the file to http://csharp.com/circles.html . I left the SVG file unchanged, other than removing the redundant line of commented code, and also uploaded to my website. The form works for both IE and Firefox locally from my hard drive, and IE works with my website, but for some strange reason Firefox does not work off my website, and just lists out the SVG source code. As it works with your website, as well as locally, it looks as if there is a problem with the server used for hosting my website - any ideas? Absolutely. Googling for server configuration svg (without the quotes) usually does the trick. ;-) http://www.svg-whiz.com/wiki/index.php?title=Server_Configuration http://www.svg-whiz.com/wiki/index.php?title=Server_Configuration:Apache -Jonathan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Firefox problem with SVGPathSegList::replaceItem()
Hi Jeff, On 1/8/06, Jeff Schiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Watt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jeff On 1/7/06, Jeff Schiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the method not implemented in Firefox 1.5? Correct, that's what NS_ERROR_NOT_IMPLEMENTED means. Ugh. It's odd that appendElement() is allowed but not replaceElement(). So you can create a path element through the DOM IDL you just can't change it (which is the primary means I wanted to use the DOM, for efficiency). Yeah, that seems strange. I'm not sure why replaceElement wasn't implemented. I thought that checking for path.pathSegList.replaceElement would be enough to know that replaceElement() exists and is implemented (this is what I do for ASV), but apparently it's implemented as an empty stub that throws an exception saying it's not implemented - not very useful to developers. Is there any reason that was done? Because the DOM interfaces are fixed and you can't leave out parts of them? And possibly for binary compatibility issues in consecutive Mozilla binaries? I admit this is very annoying, and it's certainly a good reason for us to try our best to implement all parts of the DOM interfaces of the elements we implement. Other than looking through the source, or surrounding my scripts in try/catch blocks, is there any other way to determine if a method/attribute/interface is implemented? Not that I'm aware of. Sorry, I'm just frustrated and needed to vent a little... Perfectly understandable. Regards, Jonathan Thanks, Jeff [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Passing values from HTML to SVG
Hi Christopher,
On 1/7/06, csharpdotcom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Everybody,
I am new to this newsgroup, and this is my first post.
I have been playing around with scripting SVG, but I am having trouble
transfering data from an HTML form to an embedded SVG document. At
http://csharp.com/circles.html I have an HTML form where a single
number is specified, then I am trying to pick up that numnber from the
embedded SVG document at http://csharp.com/circles.svg . The SVG code
can be seen by clicking on here at the very bottom. Ignore
the plaintext tag at the very top, if is appears.
In order to display the output from the SVG code, I have commented out
two lines of Javascript for var f = parent.select.document.selface;
and var face = f.facenum.value; and put in a numerical value. When I
uncomment these two lines of code and comment out the fixed value
of face an error is reported with the
message 'parent.select.document' is null or not an object.
The parent.select.document.selface is very mixed up: 'parent' is a window
object, not the document. You would need to use:
parent.document...
And what is 'select'? That doesn't appear in the HTML at all. Anyway, these
old DOM 0 ways are not what I know. I recommend you add an 'id' attribute to
the elements you want to obtain (you can have both a 'name' and an 'id'
attribute with the same name on an element), and use getElementById() to
obtain the elements. So it should work fine if you add the 'id' to your
form tag and do:
var f = parent.document.getElementById('selface');
instead.
Please note that even this disabled version does not appear to work
properly with Firefox, but needs IE to view it. Once it has been
debugged with IE, then the issue of other browsers can be examined.
Because you use createElement instead of createElementNS. Unfortunately ASV
incorrectly allows the former to work.
At http://csharp.com/specframes.html I used a similar way of
transfering information from an HTML form to another HTML document in
the same frame. Note that as this uses VML, it only works with IE.
All the examples I have seen of HTML modifying an SVG document using
Javascript, involve manipulating SVG elements, such as fill color, and
not transmitting data to Javascript code in the SVG document. I would
be most grateful for any advice someone could kindly give me.
Well reloading the SVG document is clearly not a good way, but then I'm sure
you know that. :-) You're actually half way there since you have found how
to obtain the SVGDocument object. Now what you really want to be able to do
is call functions defined in the SVG from JavaScript in the HTML. Then you
can pass the data in a function call. To do this you need to get the
SVGDocument object's window object. I have a couple of demos that show you
how to do this for both embed and object, see:
http://jwatt.org/svg/demos/scripting-across-embed.html
http://jwatt.org/svg/demos/scripting-across-object.html
The source is heavily commented to explain it, but the code is quite small
if you remove the comments.
Christopher Sharp
http://csharp.com
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Re: [svg-developers] Re: Passing values from HTML to SVG
On 1/8/06, csharpdotcom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jonathan, Thanks for your reply - I followed your suggestion with inithtml(), and uncommented the two lines of code in the SVG file, but I got the same error, so although that may fix one problem, there are still others. I know about the SVG Mozilla link, many thanks, and put in a namespace to make my file compatible with Firefox, but Firefox seems to have a problem when Javascript is used in SVG files. Just for the record, Firefox doesn't have a problem with JavaScript in SVG, but rather a problem with createElement being used for namespaced content instead of createElementNS. Once you have your IE issues sorted out see: http://jwatt.org/svg/authoring/#namespace-aware-methods http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/SVG:Namespaces_Crash_Course Anyway, I want to get the problem with IE sorted out before considering other browsers. Christopher --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Watt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Christopher, It looks like you're exeriencing the same problem that jaychambers just posted to the list, except that he experienced it in Firefox, while you're experiencing it in IE+ASV. At least one problem is that you need to wait until the SVG is loaded before trying to access it. Calling inithtml() as you do may mean that it is called too soon, and hence you get your error. To make sure inithtml() is called only after everything is loaded use an 'onload' attribute on the body tag: body bgcolor=white onload=inithtml(); There may be other issues, but that's the one that jumps out at me. When you get round to it, check out the following page for help if you have problems getting things working in Firefox: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/svg/faq.html Regards, Jonathan On 1/7/06, csharpdotcom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everybody, I am new to this newsgroup, and this is my first post. I have been playing around with scripting SVG, but I am having trouble transfering data from an HTML form to an embedded SVG document. At http://csharp.com/circles.html I have an HTML form where a single number is specified, then I am trying to pick up that numnber from the embedded SVG document at http://csharp.com/circles.svg . The SVG code can be seen by clicking on here at the very bottom. Ignore the plaintext tag at the very top, if is appears. In order to display the output from the SVG code, I have commented out two lines of Javascript for var f = parent.select.document.selface; and var face = f.facenum.value; and put in a numerical value. When I uncomment these two lines of code and comment out the fixed value of face an error is reported with the message 'parent.select.document' is null or not an object. Please note that even this disabled version does not appear to work properly with Firefox, but needs IE to view it. Once it has been debugged with IE, then the issue of other browsers can be examined. At http://csharp.com/specframes.html I used a similar way of transfering information from an HTML form to another HTML document in the same frame. Note that as this uses VML, it only works with IE. All the examples I have seen of HTML modifying an SVG document using Javascript, involve manipulating SVG elements, such as fill color, and not transmitting data to Javascript code in the SVG document. I would be most grateful for any advice someone could kindly give me. Christopher Sharp http://csharp.com - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Firefox issues with createElementNS, works in IE
Hi,
On 1/7/06, jaychambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Jonathan,
This didnt work either, at least, not entirely. the JScript
console is cool. Learn something new every day!!! Does IE have
similar tool? didnt see one. Anyway, I've been looking around, and
this appears to be a pretty common issue with FF. The FF JScript
console says svgDocument has no properties. From what I've read,
this is common in FF when using getSVGDocument. Whats more wierd,
is I disabled the FF SVG and loaded Adobe, and thats where I saw the
behavior.
As Ronan says, when running in Mozilla, ASV doesn't have support to allow
script in the HTML to talk to the SVG it's rendering. In other words that
error is always going to occur if you're using ASV in Firefox.
For grins, this morning, I changed back to native SVG in
FF, and all the sudden, it works using
function onload=draw(), SVG native support, well-formed XML SVG
file, and this line
svgDocument = document.embeds[SVGNAME].getSVGDocument();
Yes, everything should work fine using Mozilla Firefox's native SVG support.
dosent work with Adobe loadedup. I'm doing some further testing,
because FF is producing some very wierd works when the sun is @ 45
degress of the . kind of issues. Its somewhat irritating that
the browser I have some to love and defend, has such flaky issues it
turns out.
I played around with your files, modified in a variety of ways. It
consistantly works for me. If you can keep copies of the files exactly as
they are when they don't work for you I'll look into this.
BTW, here is a link to a site that has a example at the bottom
trying to accomplish the same thing! Dosent work on FF (although
youl have to use adobe plugin, guess they arent using well-formed
XML)
http://www.svgopen.org/2002/papers/hauser_wenz__scripting_svg/
Yes, well as you can see the SVG document hasn't loaded. Instead there's a
grey background with the text: This XML file does not appear to have any
style information associated with it. If you google on that plus SVG
you'll find the reason why. In short if the author had added the attribute:
xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg;
then the SVG document would load, and then the script would have something
to access when you click the button.
I wanted to thank you for your time to respond to my question!
You're very welcome. :-)
There are a couple of demos I have on my site showing how to script across
the object and embed tags in both IE+ASV and in FF. They are heavily
commented to explain how things work.
http://jwatt.org/svg/demos/scripting-across-embed.html
http://jwatt.org/svg/demos/scripting-across-object.html
I hope you find them informative.
-Jonathan
-j
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wrote:
Hi,
The problem is likely that the SVG document hasn't yet loaded when
draw() is
called. Instead of calling it in the script element, call it
onload. This
should work I think:
html
body onload=draw();
EMBED NAME=mydoc WIDTH=800 HEIGHT=600 SRC=canvas.svg /
script language=javascript
var svgDocument;
function draw() {
var svgns = http://www.w3.org/2000/svg;;
svgDocument = this.document.mydoc.getSVGDocument();
var shape = svgDocument.createElementNS('
http://www.w3.org/2000/svg','circle');
shape.setAttributeNS(null, 'cx', 25);
shape.setAttributeNS(null, 'cy', 25);
shape.setAttributeNS(null, 'r', 20);
shape.setAttributeNS(null, 'fill', 'green');
svgDocument.documentElement.appendChild(shape);
}
/script
ptesting/p
/body
/html
BTW, the JavaScript console is very useful in finding errors. See
Tools
JavaScript Console from the menubar. getSVGDocument() will have
returned
null, so likely there was an error for the next line.
Regards,
Jonathan
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Re: [svg-developers] Firefox problem with SVGPathSegList::replaceItem()
Hi Jeff
On 1/7/06, Jeff Schiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm writing some code that uses the SVG DOM and I do the following to
check if the methods/attributes exist:
1: var p = document.createElementNS(SVGNS, path);
2: if(p.pathSegList.appendItem p.pathSegList.replaceItem) {
3:alert(p.pathSegList.appendItem);
4:alert(p.pathSegList.replaceItem);
5: }
6: p.pathSegList.appendItem(p.createSVGPathSegMovetoAbs(0,0));
7. p.pathSegList.replaceItem(p.createSVGPathSegMovetoAbs(1,1),0);
In Firefox 1.5, Lines 3 and 4 show those methods as [native code].
But when execution gets to Line 7, Firefox 1.5 throws the following
JavaScript exception:
Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... Component returned failure
code: 0x80004001 (NS_ERROR_NOT_IMPLEMENTED)
[nsIDOMSVGPathSegList.replaceItem] nsresult: 0x80004001
(NS_ERROR_NOT_IMPLEMENTED) location: JS frame ::
file:///D:/Profiles/JSCHILL1/My%20Documents/Personal/web/blog/WP1.5/wp-content/themes/something-witty-goes-here/images/svgsnow.js
:: tick :: line 284 data: no]
Is the method not implemented in Firefox 1.5?
Correct, that's what NS_ERROR_NOT_IMPLEMENTED means.
http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/SVG_in_Firefox_1.5 seems to show
that these methods ARE implemented, so what's the exception about?
That doc doesn't mention the SVGPathSegList interface at all. There are
multiple levels of interfaces that are accessed through other interfaces,
and it would be impractical to try and list them all. That doc tries to
cover elements and sometimes give pertient information about the direct
interface of those elements.
Regards,
Jonathan
Thanks!
Jeff
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Re: [svg-developers] Passing values from HTML to SVG
Hi Christopher, It looks like you're exeriencing the same problem that jaychambers just posted to the list, except that he experienced it in Firefox, while you're experiencing it in IE+ASV. At least one problem is that you need to wait until the SVG is loaded before trying to access it. Calling inithtml() as you do may mean that it is called too soon, and hence you get your error. To make sure inithtml() is called only after everything is loaded use an 'onload' attribute on the body tag: body bgcolor=white onload=inithtml(); There may be other issues, but that's the one that jumps out at me. When you get round to it, check out the following page for help if you have problems getting things working in Firefox: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/svg/faq.html Regards, Jonathan On 1/7/06, csharpdotcom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everybody, I am new to this newsgroup, and this is my first post. I have been playing around with scripting SVG, but I am having trouble transfering data from an HTML form to an embedded SVG document. At http://csharp.com/circles.html I have an HTML form where a single number is specified, then I am trying to pick up that numnber from the embedded SVG document at http://csharp.com/circles.svg . The SVG code can be seen by clicking on here at the very bottom. Ignore the plaintext tag at the very top, if is appears. In order to display the output from the SVG code, I have commented out two lines of Javascript for var f = parent.select.document.selface; and var face = f.facenum.value; and put in a numerical value. When I uncomment these two lines of code and comment out the fixed value of face an error is reported with the message 'parent.select.document' is null or not an object. Please note that even this disabled version does not appear to work properly with Firefox, but needs IE to view it. Once it has been debugged with IE, then the issue of other browsers can be examined. At http://csharp.com/specframes.html I used a similar way of transfering information from an HTML form to another HTML document in the same frame. Note that as this uses VML, it only works with IE. All the examples I have seen of HTML modifying an SVG document using Javascript, involve manipulating SVG elements, such as fill color, and not transmitting data to Javascript code in the SVG document. I would be most grateful for any advice someone could kindly give me. Christopher Sharp http://csharp.com - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Firefox issues with createElementNS, works in IE
Hi,
The problem is likely that the SVG document hasn't yet loaded when draw() is
called. Instead of calling it in the script element, call it onload. This
should work I think:
html
body onload=draw();
EMBED NAME=mydoc WIDTH=800 HEIGHT=600 SRC=canvas.svg /
script language=javascript
var svgDocument;
function draw() {
var svgns = http://www.w3.org/2000/svg;;
svgDocument = this.document.mydoc.getSVGDocument();
var shape = svgDocument.createElementNS('
http://www.w3.org/2000/svg','circle');
shape.setAttributeNS(null, 'cx', 25);
shape.setAttributeNS(null, 'cy', 25);
shape.setAttributeNS(null, 'r', 20);
shape.setAttributeNS(null, 'fill', 'green');
svgDocument.documentElement.appendChild(shape);
}
/script
ptesting/p
/body
/html
BTW, the JavaScript console is very useful in finding errors. See Tools
JavaScript Console from the menubar. getSVGDocument() will have returned
null, so likely there was an error for the next line.
Regards,
Jonathan
On 1/6/06, jaychambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can any tell me whay is going on here. I have no more hiar left to
pull out!
I have a HTML page with some JScript in it, and a .svg. The SVG look
like this:
svg version=1.1 baseProfile=full
xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg;
xmlns:xlink=http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink;
xmlns:ev=http://www.w3.org/2001/xml-events;
rect x=1cm y=1cm width=1cm height=1cm /
/svg
simple eh`. just draws a rect. This work in both IE and FireFox (1.5).
Now to the HTML page. I want to use DOM/JScript to dynamically create
SVG elements . HEre is my code:
html
body
EMBED NAME=mydoc WIDTH=800 HEIGHT=600 SRC=/canvas.svg /
script language=javascript
function draw() {
var svgns = http://www.w3.org/2000/svg;;
svgDocument = this.document.mydoc.getSVGDocument();
var shape = svgDocument.createElementNS('http://www.w3.org/2000/svg',
'circle');
shape.setAttributeNS(null, 'cx', 25);
shape.setAttributeNS(null, 'cy', 25);
shape.setAttributeNS(null, 'r', 20);
shape.setAttributeNS(null, 'fill', 'green');
svgDocument.documentElement.appendChild(shape);
}
var blah = draw();
/script
ptesting/p
/body
/html
I just want to draw a friggin` circle dynamically Is this a bug in
Firefox, for a strictness issues with something inncorrect in the code.?
Anyone, please help
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Re: [svg-developers] Corecting Javascript for Firefox
Hi Richard,
On 12/22/05, Richard Pearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In the hope that my hosting company will sort out encoding for SVGZ (if
they
don't I'll find another one when it comes up for re-newal), I decided to
correct my Javascript so it works with Firefox. It seemed that the main
problem was in this function, which is used by pretty well all my
mouseover,
mouseout and click events:
function getDoc(evt) {
return evt.getTarget().getOwnerDocument()
}
Fortunately this is in an external file so Pressumably all I have to do is
change it and most my JavaScript should work in Firefox. As far I could
make out from http://jwatt.org/svg/authoring/#asv-getters-and-setters, I
should change it to:
function getDoc(evt) {
return evt.target.documentElement
}
However this gives me an error message in ASV and still doesn't work in
Firefox. Can somebody explain what the problem is?
No, not documentElement, it should be ownerDocument. In other words:
function getDoc(evt) {
return evt.target.ownerDocument;
}
If you really want the documentElement then use something like:
function getDocEl(evt) {
return evt.target.ownerDocument.documentElement;
}
Okay, I'll fess up. Although the principle (of removing the 'get') shown in
the authoring doc is right, I do have evt.target.documentElement which will
cause an error unless the event was dispatched to the document object.
Sorry, I'll change that now. :-)
Regards,
Jonathan
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Re: [svg-developers] Re: Does Firefox 1.5 support SVGZ?
Hi Richard, Unfortunately Mozilla Firefox 1.5 can't load gzip compressed SVG locally (that needs to be fixed), but it can load it from a server when served with the correct HTTP headers. Here are a bunch of random links that should demonstrate that for you: http://www.w3.org/2003/12/svg-xml2003/index.svgz http://www.bjoernsworld.de/temp/svg-wg-appreciation-day.svgz http://www.mizzou.edu/~njseef/mygraph.svgzhttp://www.mizzou.edu/%7Enjseef/mygraph.svgz http://www.graphviz.org/cgi-bin/webdot/webdot/graphs/directed/world.dot.dot.svgz http://popolon.org/gblog2/wp-content/upload/fleur_en_cours.svgz http://www.websitedev.de/svg/vxhtml11.svgz http://www.ba.infn.it/~zito/xml/prova.svgzhttp://www.ba.infn.it/%7Ezito/xml/prova.svgz http://www.roitsystems.com/r2v/2005-11-24/Captcha.svg.svgz and, err, not for the young and innocent :-) http://faemalia.net/ArtWorx/SVG/Captivation-Of-A-Youthful-Soul.svgz Regards, Jonathan On 12/19/05, Richard Pearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Jeff Schiller To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 8:36 AM Subject: [svg-developers] Re: Does Firefox 1.5 support SVGZ? You've been told many times in this mailing list that Firefox DOES INDEED SUPPORT svgz. This is one of many things (mostly not relating to SVG) which I've been told but have yet to see any evidence for. Basically the web server needs to tell the browser that the content type needs unzipping. I know my hosting company seems to be having trouble setting the server correctly (perhaps you can get cross with them rather than me). However I'd have thought that Firefox should still be able to display SVGZ files stored on my local computer but I get the same sort of error messages as I do when I look at my website on line. Why is this? I have yet to find any SVGZ files on the internet which Firefox can display. Do you know of any? I very much hope that Firefox does support SVGZ files and I will be able to get people looking at the SVGZ files on my website using Firefox in the near future. However I seems that I'm saying that Firefox doesn't support SVGZ (or at best there's some issue which I'm not aware of) and pressenting evidence to that effect while you're just saying that it does and not pressenting any evidence. Richard Pearman http://www.pixelpalaces.com/ The next stage in the evolution of web comics: http://www.onlinecomics.net/pages/details/listing.php?comicID=4415 - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Firefox 1.5 with SVG now officially released (A word of appreciation.)
Thanks Marjorie. It's very kind of you to say so publicly. It would certainly be very cool if InstantAtlas could get their content working in FF. If they need any help I'd be glad to see what I can do. All the best, Jonathan On 12/8/05, Marjorie Roswell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You write beautifully. I appreciate your work, and your clarity of writing. (I'm also a fan of default on.) I'll be joyful when InstantAtlas supports Firefox, and I know they are working on it. You once kindly gave some helpful hints, which I forwarded on to them. Note: I once started this site: http://svgmapper.blogspot.com Haven't touched it for a while. I also did this page: http://www.svg-whiz.com/wiki/index.php?title=SVG_as_GIS Just to give you an idea of where I'm comin' from. Appreciatively, Margie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Updating Image file
On 12/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks, I'll try that. What I had tried was:
svgdoc.getElementById('image').setAttributeNS('xlink:href', 'image.png');
and that doesn't do anything. It doesn't error, but it doesn't do
anything.
Strange. In FF 1.5 if you don't provide the expected number of arguments
then you usually get an error. I tested and got
Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... Not enough arguments [
nsIDOMSVGSVGElement.setAttributeNS] nsresult: 0x80570001
(NS_ERROR_XPC_NOT_ENOUGH_ARGS) location: JS frame :: javascript:
document.documentElement.setAttributeNS('xlink:href', 'image.png'); ::
TOP_LEVEL :: line 1 data: no]
Not sure why you wouldn't have.
I've thrown up a document to explain what I hope is enough about namespaces
to get people new to them up and running with minimal pain. If it might help
you, see:
http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/SVG:Namespaces_Crash_Course
-Jonathan
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Re: [svg-developers] Re: Firefox 1.5 with SVG now officially released
Hi Domenico, I understand your main argument that you think it's too early to release Mozilla's SVG implementation, and that you think the overall effect will be to harm SVG on the Web. I just happen to take the opposite view. Clearly there are people on this list that fall into both camps; some for, some against. Some specific comments: If the 70% figure of rendering success has been realistically set by yourself then I don't dispute it, but I randomly visited about 15 of the svg links in my bookmarks and got 0% positive results. I wonder how many of these were a result of problems in the SVG vs. problems or missing features in Mozilla. Unfortunately so much of the SVG in the wild falls into the former category it's difficult to determine figures regarding how much should work, and how much is expected not to. A big difference between ASV 1 and 2 and FFsvg is that ASV simply allowed the kick off, I don't think there were any works prior to that, or were there? The scenario is totally opposite for FF In my opinion SVG has done anything but kick off on the Web. The volume of SVG out there doesn't even register when compared to mainstream Web content and that situation has previously shown little sign of change. Personally, I believe a fundamental reason for this has been the lack of native support. A lot of people simply won't consider using a technology for which the only real support is a plug-in with an unknown, but probably small and shrinking install base. Native support not only eliminates the plug-in barrier, but for some people I expect it will allay concerns about the technology's future on the Web. By putting a partial implementation into the hands of the wider developer community we might give SVG a chance to kick off on the Web for real - before it's too late. Waiting until a year from now (actually probably more like 18 months) would certainly be too late I think. We need that time for new people to start learning about it and begin to use it. This way some current SVG won't work, yes. But it will bring in a whole new user base, giving SVG a chance to live and grow rather than wither into permenant insignificance, on the Web. Of course in this type of society the trend to not listen to older, wiser people, is ever galloping. Not fair! It was widely known that we planned to include our SVG support, we provided links to test builds and we asked for feedback. We were listening. We still are. But unfortunatley that doesn't mean we can make everyone happy, or that we can go back now and turn off the SVG support. Jonathan, In my letter I can read: artists and programmers artists and technicians Can you? Yes. I read that. I'm not sure why you ask. You say you (the Mozilla team) poled the community. I've been away from the list for a few months, as other developers have. Wouldn't have it been more appropriate to make some individual contact, like you did when you suggested auditing, and seek personal advice like Hi xyz, the implementation is in advanced state, but this and that is still missing, do you think it would be blah blah?. I generally contacted people for one of three reasons; 1) their site contained an SVG tutorial that taught bad authoring practices (or didn't mention the basic things that are vital in FF); 2) we got a complaint from a FF tester that we didn't render the SVG on site X, and it turned out that site X's SVG was bad; 3) a few other random sites that I felt were high profile and it would be good to see working for FF 1.5. In general when I contacted people I always mentioned that the FF release was expected soon and that our SVG support would be turned on, so those same people should have been aware of it. I imagine I gave you that information too, although I don't have those emails to hand ATM. Some people replied to my emails, and some people (like yourself) even did work on their SVG as a result. However, you were in the minority. For the most part I never heard back and nothing changed, or else I got so much resistance that I decided direct emailing was a poor use of my very limited time. Having talked on and off the lists for months both about how to make your SVG valid enough to give FF a fighting chance to render it, and the fact that we were going to release our SVG implementation, I hoped that awareness was high enough for people to make their own decisions to test their content or not. If you haven't been on list for some time that's unfortunate, but it was never going to be possible to catch everyone. The majority replied yes. Did you take into consideration eventually what the minority said? Did you think it was appropriate to sort by number instead of by experience level? We considered what everyone had to say. In general it's hard to guage how experienced people are, or how representative of existing SVG content authors they are, but several of the most well known SVG figures were amoung those that said yes. I'm not sure
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Firefox 1.5 with SVG now officially released
On 12/5/05, domenico_strazzullo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/4/05, Doug Schepers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: p.s. Don't confuse Jonathan's politeness for insincerity. He's a stand-up fellow Thanks Doug. I appreciate you saying so. Which I'm not confusing. I think I know how to detect arrogance. And of course I appreciate his efforts and dedication, as I already said, and I even gave him credits on http://www.dotuscomus.com/svg/ well upfront (for what it's worth) in spite of an earlier manifestation of arrogance which I didn't consider, attributing it to over excitement and fatigue. Appologies if I come across as a bit of an annoying, arrogant prick sometimes. If I do I guess that's partly due to my often abrupt, to the point writing style, exacerbated by frequently writing the same things over and over to different people. Being unintentionally curt certainly doesn't mean I think of myself as being superior to anyone else though. On the contrary I'm well aware that many of the people I correspond with have a great deal more experience of authoring actual SVG content than I do. My goal is to help SVG grow while minimising the pain felt by content authors by communicating. No offense is ever intended. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] getSheet() and FireFox 1.5
Hi Benjamin, The .getSheet() syntax is not supported. You have to use the standard ECMAScript interface .sheet instead (this should work in ASV too). For more info as to why see: http://jwatt.org/svg/authoring/#asv-getters-and-setters Regards, Jonathan On 12/7/05, campin_b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, It seems that the getSheet() Method is not supported in FF1.5, am I right ? Is there a list of implemented DOM methods/properties on FF 1.5 ? If so I will be very happy to have a link to that list. Thanks, Benjamin - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] getSheet() and FireFox 1.5
On 12/8/05, Antoine Quint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8 déc. 2005, at 11:49, Jonathan Watt wrote: The .getSheet() syntax is not supported. You have to use the standard ECMAScript interface .sheet instead (this should work in ASV too). For more info as to why see: http://jwatt.org/svg/authoring/#asv-getters-and-setters What is this .sheet accessor? Antoine I assume were talking about the 'sheet' attribute on the LinkStyle interface, which (*cough*) isn't part of SVG but is useful nontheless. Jonathan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Firefox 1.5 with SVG now officially released
Hi Demenico,
On 12/1/05, domenico_strazzullo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I have a few remarks,
var fnt_size = parseInt(txttoformat.getAttributeNS(null,font-
size));
vs
var fnt_size = parseInt(txttoformat.getAttribute(font-size));
These both work in Ffx 1.5. I read that
As pointed out several times already, Mozilla SVG and Batik are
stricter regarding invalid SVG elements, missing namespaces,
mimetypes
Am I missing something? Or someone else is?
Some browsers, Mozilla included, treat the non-NS *attribute* methods as
being equivalent to the NS counterparts passed null. The DOM specs allow
them to do this, but don't prescribe the behaviour, so using the NS methods
for attributes as well as element is safer.
On another note, I am very concerned about the release of the svg
implementation under it actual state. The implementors seem to worry
a lot about the validity of the works and not so much about the
validity of the renderer.
I don't think that's a fair statement. I guess the reason you think that is
because of my authoring doc and posts to this list etc. My concern has been
that the launch of SVG support in Fx 1.5 should be as painless as possible
for SVG content authors. To achieve that I felt it was not only necessary to
fix Firefox bugs, but also to provide fair warning (and fixes) to content
authors regarding the very widespread content errors that will cause SVG
content to fail in Fx, regardless of the completeness of its SVG
implementation. The latter task may have been more visible to most people,
but rest assured, our (my) primary concern and the focus of our work has
been and continues to be the implementation.
I would forward a motion for the removal of the automatic rendering
('lax' mode) for the greater public until the implementation is
complete, not just satisfactory. That is so subjective! The build
is 1.5, but not in respect to the svg implementation. Only when the
implementation reaches maturity (1.0) should it be transparently
integrated.
Complete is also a very subjective word. The SVG specification is very
large, and it's next to impossible to create a truely complete
implementation. Details on what you miss would be helpful.
My worry is
about the large public looking at those works misrendered or not
completely rendered, no matter how good or bad they are originally.
I do realize that getting Firefox-svg out is a good mission for the
svg world and that the time race is an important factor
strategically, but at the same time a premature release means more
arm than benefit. I'm very unhappy about it. I know the FF crew were
using the works for testing.
We've not just been using it for testing. We poled the SVG community asking
whether the SVG support in Fx 1.5 should be on or off by default. The
majority of people replied on. Since then we made it quite clear, I hope,
that we intended it to be on. If you read this list regularly I'm not sure
how you missed that. We have also made custom test builds, and publicised
the betas and release candidates so that people could test the support prior
to this release.
I am, of course, very sorry that you find that the SVG support is not up to
your needs. But as you yourself acknowledge, the decision was not an easy
one, and always going to result in some unhappy people, whichever way we
decided.
I've been asked to audit my works and I
did so. Now I see improvements, but far from what one has the right
to expect. The result is that the damage is done to the artists and
programmers in the SVG community, not to the browser. If you don't
trust me ask any designer, painter, musician, film maker, writer...
Would you imagine a theater showing a movie to the millions where
you randomly get the screen cut in half, tiny rectangles scattered
all over, the actors all grouped in the top left corner, superposed
perhaps, or you name it.
Those sound like rather nasty problems. Bug reports with testcases would be
helpful.
Publication is the uppermost step in the
process of art production and one of its ultimate goals. Who needs
to be published this way? Is this some kind of a joke? A browser is
a public publisher. Is this a children's sandbox or a serious
business? Once again, you don't do that kind of thing in the art
world!
Finally, let's not forget that many of the advancements we were able
to make in svg have been possible thanks to ASV. Like Jonathan says,
Adobe's DOM extensions were designed to palliate NS 4.7
deficiencies, at a time when it was still popular. Let's not spit
too much in the soup. Many or all of the works we were able to sell
were only possible because ASV was (is) around.
I'm not sure what you're saying here with regards to Fx 1.5.
In conclusion, I too, applaud and have the greatest consideration
for the work the Firefox guys are doing, but way way too many svg
works use SMIL and many use some less common methods of the complete
DOM2 subset. It's unconceivable
Re: [svg-developers] Firefox 1.5 with SVG now officially released
Hi all, On 11/30/05, Andreas Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems like Mozilla Firefox 1.5 with native SVG support is now officially released! It's worth mentioning that Mozilla Firefox 1.5 release candidate 3 became the official Mozilla Firefox 1.5 release, so if you downloaded rc3 then you're already using the official release. Congratulations to the Mozilla SVG team (Alex, Tim, Jonathan, etc.) for their great work. To my knowledge this is the first webbrowser that implements a good enough SVG and DOM subset to make SVG applications without having to rely on the ASV plugin. Thanks Andreas. :-) As pointed out several times already, Mozilla SVG and Batik are stricter regarding invalid SVG elements, missing namespaces, mimetypes and invalid DOM-methods. If your own examples fails it might well be the cause that you created somehow invalid content - please review Jonathan Watts guidelines: http://jwatt.org/svg/authoring/ Absolutely. I know many people who contribute to this list have been fixing their SVG, but if you haven't already I'd encourage to you read that document. I'd also like to point out the FAQ and our SVG in Firefox 1.5 wiki document as other first ports of call if you experience problems with SVG not displaying as expected. http://www.mozilla.org/projects/svg/faq.html http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/SVG_in_Firefox_1.5 Of course there are also missing bits (patterns, text on path, SVG fonts, filters, SMIL animation, etc.) - those are partially addressed in the developers builds - and some missing DOM methods. For a list of supported features see the SVG in Firefox 1.5 wiki document. http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/SVG_in_Firefox_1.5 Please report bugs to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ or http://groups.google.com/group/netscape.public.mozilla.svg/ We'd very much appreciate if people who find bugs could do as much of the bug investigation/narrowing down as they possibly can themselves, and that bugs are filed in bugzilla. (If in doubt as to whether something is a bug, the newsgroup is a good place to ask.) This frees us from these tasks and allows us to concentrate our very limited resources on writing fixes. See http://www.mozilla.org/projects/svg/faq.html#reporting-bugs Many thanks to all those people who have and continue to test and report problems. Thanks again to the Mozilla SVG team and please continue your good work! To help complete/improve the SVG implementation and get it to where we want it to be, we could always use some more help. We'd like to hear from anyone that's interested and able to write a bit of SVG, JavaScript, etc., but *especially* from people competent in C++ who could contribute to the implementation itself. Also please consider contributing to the SVG and Mozilla wikis. http://svg-whiz.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/SVG -Jonathan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] .nodeValue vs. .data
Hi Andreas, They are both part of DOM2, and for Text nodes they are equivalent. In fact Mozilla implements .nodeValue for such nodes by forwarding to .data. -Jonathan On 11/30/05, Andreas Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have a question regarding .nodeValue vs. .data For setting the content of a text element one can use either .nodeValue or .data - which one is correct and standards conform and which not? Or can one use both methods with not particular advantages/disadvantages? examples: myText.firstChild.nodeValue = bla or myText.firstChild.data = bla Thanks for any info on that issue, Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Incorrect display in Firefox 1.5, but validates correct
Hi, I've only had a quick look, but you haven't specified units for your CSS lengths. See http://jwatt.org/svg/authoring/#css-and-units for an explaination. Regards, Jonathan On 11/19/05, arjenmeijernl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On http://www.alforto.nl/?cultuur.html are 4 svg pictures that display correct in ASV 6 or inkscape. They are correct svg 1.1, says W3C. However, Firefox 1.5 does not display them correct. In which direction do I have to find the answer? Namespaces??? Arjen - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Internet Explorer unable to display pages with SVG
On 11/8/05, Chris Lilley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: svg width=50 height=50 viewBox=0 0 100 100 you are missing an SVG namespace declaration. that certainly stops it displaying in several implementations. Richard, Chris is right, see http://jwatt.org/svg/authoring/ for a list of common problems and their solution. Having said that, I haven't heard of anyone encountering the problem you describe. -Jonathan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] XMLHTTP and IE DOM
Hi Garry,
On 11/4/05, Garry Haywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
while(betaChild!=null){
alert
(betachild.getAttribute('col001'))
Watch your spelling! ;-)
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Re: [svg-developers] Re: XMLHTTP and IE DOM
On 11/4/05, Garry Haywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
but the real issue how do get object.responseXML into the DOM?
responseXML is a DOM tree. I'm not sure what you mean. I do see another
error though.
On 11/4/05, Garry Haywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
while(child!=null){
if(child.nodeName=='beta'){
var betaChild = child.firstChild;
while(betaChild!=null){
Not all the child nodes will be element nodes (you'll at least have text
nodes mixed up with them). You should check to make sure that you only call
getAttribute on element nodes:
if (betaChild.nodeType == 1) // element node
alert(betachild.getAttribute('col001'));
alert
(betachild.getAttribute('col001'))
betaChild =
betaChild.nextSibling;
}
}
child = child.nextSibling;
}
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Re: [svg-developers] parent is not defined svg/html
Hi, On 11/4/05, Erwan TROEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i embed a svg in an html page with the fucntion emitSVG in my svg i link a javascript file: script xlink:href=../../../init.js language=JavaScript / in this javascript file i write alert(parent.getURL()) i have an error message: parent is not defined help help i really don't understand why Adobe removed support for |parent| for a security reason I believe. For some reason |top| still remains, so use that instead. alert(top.getURL()); If you are interested in getting scripts to communicate between HTML and embedded SVG you may find the following examples useful. http://jwatt.org/svg/demos/scripting-across-embed.html http://jwatt.org/svg/demos/scripting-across-object.html -Jonathan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: XMLHTTP and IE DOM
So does it work now or is it still broken? If the latter it would be good to have some for info. Browser, version etc. On 11/4/05, Garry Haywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it is probably my confusion I know that the request has been sucessful a) it is tested for and b) req.responseText is the text that I was expecting however, the firstChild retuns null Which line? - so I assumed that I wasn't actually acessing the dom tree therefore I assumed that maybe I had to append responseXML to the DOM somehow befor I could acess it!!! Nope. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] parent is not defined svg/html
What do you mean it doesn't work yet? Some basic information about where you're running this script would help a lot. On 11/4/05, Erwan TROEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: top.getURL() doesn't work yet - Original Message - From: Jonathan Watt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [svg-developers] parent is not defined svg/html Hi, On 11/4/05, Erwan TROEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i embed a svg in an html page with the fucntion emitSVG in my svg i link a javascript file: script xlink:href=../../../init.js language=JavaScript / in this javascript file i write alert(parent.getURL()) i have an error message: parent is not defined help help i really don't understand why Adobe removed support for |parent| for a security reason I believe. For some reason |top| still remains, so use that instead. alert(top.getURL()); If you are interested in getting scripts to communicate between HTML and embedded SVG you may find the following examples useful. http://jwatt.org/svg/demos/scripting-across-embed.html http://jwatt.org/svg/demos/scripting-across-object.html -Jonathan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: XMLHTTP and IE DOM
On 11/4/05, Garry Haywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
thanks for help wattie
No problem Garry (name's Jonathan BTW).
it's still not working in either IE6 or FF (DPA)
in IE, it gets through the makeTable() function, but has there
appears to be no firstChild I can't traverse anywhere
Strange.
in FF, it fails the (req.status == 200) test!
(which maybe gives us a clue?)
Are you loading this offline? If so Moz will have |req.status == 0| so
change your test to:
if (req.status == 0 || req.status == 200) {
...
}
Or stick in an |alert(req.status)| to find out what the code is. If this
fixes things for FF then note you also definately want the check I gave you
earlier (I see you didn't included it in your amended script). Here it is
again:
if (betaChild.nodeType == 1) // element node
alert(betachild.getAttribute('col001'));
anyway, i repost the script etc
SCRIPT
var req;
function loadXMLDoc(url) {
req = false;
// branch for native XMLHttpRequest object
if(window.XMLHttpRequest) {
try {
req = new XMLHttpRequest(); }
catch(e)
{ req = false; }
// branch for IE/Windows ActiveX version
}
else if(window.ActiveXObject) {
try {
req = new ActiveXObject(Msxml2.XMLHTTP); }
catch(e)
{
try
{
req = new ActiveXObject(Microsoft.XMLHTTP);
} catch(e) {
req = false; } } }
if(req) {
req.onreadystatechange = processReqChange;
req.open(GET, url, true);
req.send();
}
}
function processReqChange() {
// only if req shows loaded
if (req.readyState == 4) {
// only if OK
if (req.status == 200) {
alert(req.responseText);
makeTable(req.responseXML);
} else
{
alert(There was a problem retrieving the XML
data:\n + req.statusText);
}
}
}
function makeTable(xml_doc){
var child = xml_doc.firstChild
while(child!=null){
if(child.nodeName=='beta'){
var betaChild = child.firstChild;
while(betaChild!=null){
alert
(betaChild.getAttribute('col001'))
betaChild =
betaChild.nextSibling;
}
}
child = child.nextSibling;
}
}
/SCRIPT
the script is being called by a button...
INPUT TYPE=button VALUE=Test onclick=loadXMLDoc
('/v2/xml/regions.xml')
this is the content of the regions.xml file
?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8 ?
beta
nuts1 col001=UKC col002=North East /
nuts1 col001=UKD col002=North West /
nuts1 col001=UKE col002=Yorkshire and The Humber /
nuts1 col001=UKF col002=East Midlands /
nuts1 col001=UKG col002=West Midlands /
nuts1 col001=UKH col002=East of England /
nuts1 col001=UKI col002=London /
nuts1 col001=UKJ col002=South East /
nuts1 col001=UKK col002=South West /
nuts1 col001=UKL col002=Wales /
nuts1 col001=UKM col002=Scotland /
nuts1 col001=UKN col002=Northern Ireland /
/beta
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Re: [svg-developers] key press event
On 11/4/05, david dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 03:00 AM 11/4/2005, Arthy wrote:
Hai ,
I have one problem to be clarrified.is http://clarrified.is there a
possibility to call a
function on enter key press in svg (key press) the function should be
executed on pressing the enter key in keypad.please can any give me a
suggestion .
Here's how I've done it:
svg xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg;
xmlns:xlink=http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink;
width=100% height=100%
onload=startup(evt)
script
![CDATA[
function startup(evt) {
O=evt.getTarget()
svgDocument=O.getOwnerDocument();
O.setAttribute(onkeypress,key_press(evt))
}
function key_press(evt){
key = evt.getCharCode();
i = String.fromCharCode(key);
//...
}
You can see a primitive textarea using this stuff at work at
http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/keys4.svg
(it doesn't backspace across lines but it does do word-wrap; I didn't
want to do too much since it's a homework assignment for my students
-- I don't remember if I got it working in Firefox or not.)
Hi Arthy, David,
Since you mention Firefox, David, I can tell you it definately won't work
since you're using ASV extension getters and setters. A few modifications
and it should be fine. Please see the following document for better SVG
authoring practice:
http://jwatt.org/svg/authoring/#asv-getters-and-setters
Here's how you would modify your code.
svg xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg;
xmlns:xlink=http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink;
width=100% height=100%
onload=startup(evt)
script
![CDATA[
function startup(evt) {
O=evt.target;
svgDocument=O.ownerDocument;
O.setAttribute(onkeypress,key_press(evt))
}
function key_press(evt){
key = evt.charCode;
i = String.fromCharCode(key);
//...
}
Regards,
Jonathan
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Re: [svg-developers] Re: Get the sourcename of the svg file to get the querystring
In Moz it definately includes the querystring. I just tested it in ASV 3.03to see if it gets this wrong, but in my test it also includes the querystring. -Jonathan On 10/19/05, jophof007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To quick with answere only the svg file is reported (without the querystring). J --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Watt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you looking for document.URL On 10/19/05, jophof007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Does any one has an example of getting the source name (I think it must be done with .getSrc () ) of the svg file. The code must run in the SVG file (running Adobe but a problem that runs fine in Firefox Beta would also be nice). If I have the name of the file. I can get the querystring out of it (the code for querystring handling is already available). John [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Get the sourcename of the svg file to get the querystring
Are you looking for document.URL On 10/19/05, jophof007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Does any one has an example of getting the source name (I think it must be done with .getSrc () ) of the svg file. The code must run in the SVG file (running Adobe but a problem that runs fine in Firefox Beta would also be nice). If I have the name of the file. I can get the querystring out of it (the code for querystring handling is already available). John [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] what is the firefox equivalent?
Hi, I think you need to take a look at the following. http://jwatt.org/svg/authoring/#asv-getters-and-setters I'd strongly encourage you to read the rest of that document too. Regards, Jonathan On 10/19/05, Z T Minhas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, This works with the adobe plugin, but not with firefox 1.5: *event.getCurrentNode().getOwnerDocument(); *does anyone know what the firefox equivalent for this is? Regards - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] SVG and XLink in HTML
Hi, I just started a doc on the SVG wiki for inline SVG. See http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=xslt+line+break That should help put you on the right track for getting it working in both IE+ASV and FF. The doc could use some more eyes on it to work out the bugs and improve it anyway. Regards, Jonathan On 10/17/05, delmundo51 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, i try to create SVG-Code out of xml-files dynamically, which i want to embed into HTML-Tables as Code(not as link to a SVG-File). Here a little example of a file with svg-Code in HTML: html xmlns:svg=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; xmlns:xlink=http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink; object CLASSID=clsid:78156a80-c6a1-4bbf-8e6a-3cd390eeb4e2 id=AdobeSVG/object ?import namespace=svg implementation=#AdobeSVG headMETA http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=UTF-8/ titleNewscollector/title /headbodytable cellspacing=2 cellpadding=2 border=1 width=610pxtrtd svg:svg viewBox=0 0 600 30 height=30px width=600px svg:g svg:text style=font-family:'Arial Black', Helvetia; font-size:12; fill:rgb(0,0,0) text-anchor=start y=20 x=600 +++ svg:a xlink:href=http://www.yahoo.com; text-decoration=underline target=_blank Message 1/svg:a . +++ svg:a xlink:href=http://www.editix.com; text-decoration=underline target=_blank Message 6/svg:a+++ svg:animateMotion begin=0 dur=10 path=M 0 0 -1000 0 repeatDur=indefinite/ /svg:text /svg:g/svg:svg /td/tr/table/body/html Unfortunately the hyperlinks are not working here, as i have to activate the xlink namespace somehow(in addition to 'xmlns:xlink=http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink;')? As well, the file works in IE-browser, but not in Firefox? Any help or hints would be appreciated. Regards, Rolf - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] getClientX() and getBBox() not in Firefox 1.5?
This is a very unfortunate problem. :-(
On 10/17/05, Jérôme Tricand de la Goutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Jeff,
On FF 1.5, you can't also do, for example :
var myObj=document.createElementNS(NameSpace, 'rect')
myObj.setAttribute('x',20)
myObj.setAttribute('y',20)
myObj.setAttribute('width',20)
myObj.setAttribute('height',20)
document.getElementById('WhereIputRects').appendChild(myObj)
Rendering is asynchronous so at the point in time the following line is
called the 'rect' probably won't have been rendered. You could try calling
document.documentElement.forceRedraw() here, but I don't think forceRedraw
works properly either. :-(
var bb=myObj.getBBox()
Is it the same bug?
Cheers
Jérôme
Jeff Rafter wrote:
getBBox() is also supported, although there does seem to be something
buggy about it. I haven't troubled to track it down, but I think it only
works on visible, rendered objects.
Yep, there is a problem in that you have to wait until *after* onload...
but not in onload. So you have to settimeout in onload and hope that
everything is rendered. So there is not a safe time to really check
this per se... it may be right, it may not be for that brief startup
moment. I believe that there is a bug filed on this already.
Cheers,
Jeff Rafter
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Re: [svg-developers] node from id
Hi maiko,
JavaScript isn't a strongly typed language, so you don't have to cast or
anything like that. You just use the interface you need:
var myItem = document.getElementById('myItemId');
myItem.removeChild(...);
-Jonathan
On 10/17/05, osaka minami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi,
i am wondering what the quickest way is to get a node
reference out of an element accessed by
.getElementById(), let's say i want handle myItem as a
node where myItem =
document.getElementById('myItemId') in order to
perform a removeChild() on it.
it's an easy thing when i have an event on that
object, my node is just evt.target and easy to
process.
any idea, or am i just not seeing the trees in the
forest?...
thank you,
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Re: [svg-developers] node from id
On 10/17/05, osaka minami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
well i just found
document.getElementById('myItemId').parentNode.removeChild(
document.getElementById('myItemId));
Ah, I see. I hadn't understood it was the parent node you wanted.
that's a wired logic...
maiko
hi,
i am wondering what the quickest way is to get a node
reference out of an element accessed by
.getElementById(), let's say i want handle myItem as
a
node where myItem =
document.getElementById('myItemId') in order to
perform a removeChild() on it.
it's an easy thing when i have an event on that
object, my node is just evt.target and easy to
process.
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Re: [svg-developers] node from id
On 10/17/05, david dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:24 AM 10/17/2005, Doug wrote: That way, you're only hitting the DOM to find the element once, instead of twice. gEBI is a rather expensive method call, I would think, especially on large documents (unless the implementation caches a hash table of all the ids). Interesting -- I would take this to mean that if I'm creating a whole bunch of stuff dynamically -- where those things might, later on, change, then it might be best to maintain, in parallel, a JavaScript array of all the things (and their attributes). It would be redundant in terms of storage and probably chew up some memory allocation from the browser, but I suppose that is relatively cheap in comparison to the time factor. (I have noticed that when I pack more than a few hundred animated things into a page the browser gets sleepy.) Does that seem sensible? David Mozilla maintains a hash table. I'd imagine most other browsers would do the same, but I could be wrong. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Firefox generate polygon from javascript
Hi Jon, I'd suggest for now you use setAttributeNS(null, 'p', 'value') since I don't think the SVGPointList interface is supported by ASV. It just makes things a bit more portable. Having said that: On 10/16/05, Jon Saints [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simple question from a newbie: How can I create an SVG polygon in mozilla firefox using javascript? So far I have: var poly = document.createElementNS(http://www.w3.org/2000/svg;, polygon); What should I put inside poly.points.appendItem( ) to add points? An SVGPoint created using var p = document.documentElement.createSVGPoint(); p.x = 10; p.y = 10; poly.points.appendItem(p); http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/coords.html#InterfaceSVGPointList http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/coords.html#InterfaceSVGPoint [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Re: setAttributeNS is dumb,dumb,dumb!
On 10/6/05, Jim Ley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan Watt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10/6/05, Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is, browsers (such as Mozilla) decided long ago to make a consistant stand. Unfortunately not, Mozilla's DOM created from text/html documents are namespace aware (you can create and it will render elements from other understoof namespaces) however here createElement works exactly as was requested. HTML documents implement all of DOM 2, so even though HTML is not namespaced, you can create namespaced element using the namespace aware methods, sure. And since you aren't dealing with a namespaced document, plain createElement will create a non-namespaced HTML element that works in that document, sure. So Mozilla's stand is far from consistent, with text/html documents createElement works as the OP wants, with application/xhtml+xml or image/svg+xml createElement does not work how the OP wants despite the DOM being equivalently namespace aware. The difference is that text/html is plain (namespace ignorant) HTML. You aren't dealing with a namespaced document so you use createElement. On the other hand application/xhtml+xml is XHTML. In this case you're dealing with a namespaced document so you need to use createElementNS. When I said consistent I meant consistant across all namespaced XML. The above behaviour doesn't contradict this for me. -Jonathan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: setAttributeNS is dumb,dumb,dumb!
On 10/6/05, Robin Berjon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan Watt wrote: But what if you go against these instructions? What if you use createElement instead of createElementNS in your SVG documents? What should happen? Is it possible that it could create an element in the same namespace as the element you called it on? Well yes. Probably it is. The specifications don't say what the namespace ignorant methods should do. That's why it says not to use them. (Probably the DOM WG when discussing what should happen couldn't come to an agreement, so they left it unspecified, making it possible to get into the mess we find ourselves in now.) [sfx: coughing bordering on choking] Careful Robin. I want a SVG 1.1 errata, so don't go dying on me! :-) From the DOM 3 Core spec: A new Element object with the nodeName attribute set to tagName, and localName, prefix, and namespaceURI set to null. That's what createElement() returns. For setAttribute() things are less directly limpid, but it still says To set an attribute with a qualified name and namespace URI, use the setAttributeNS method. What DOM 3 Core spec? Ooooh...DOM 3 Core is finally a REC!! I don't know how that slipped under my radar. Well, what I said is correct for DOM 2 Core. I just hadn't noticed DOM 3 Core had arrived (some 18 months ago or so no less) and set all this in stone. Probably because I'm busy with SVG 1.1, which has DOM 2 as its normative reference. So, basically everyone should read Robin's post. This decision has been made, and there's no chance this will change now, for better or for worse. We're going to have to get used to it. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Ego Games (was: setAttributeNS is dumb,dumb,dumb!)
On 10/7/05, Doug Schepers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact, none of this is new; I told you about the issue on your own svg-and-the-dom list *2 years* ago [1]. You were warned long before you created the content that you are now claiming FF breaks. Oh, now that *is* interesting. *Very* interesting. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Ego Games (was: setAttributeNS is dumb,dumb,dumb!)
On 10/7/05, Francis Hemsher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Myself, being accurately accused as an ego game player, would like to say that developers do not have a need to be suckled to what you purists are about. Purists? What is a purist? Someone who has the common sense to write code that will work now and in the future it seems. Such small changes, but oh, the headaches they would have saved! Eh Francis? Who gives a shit what you've 'told us', we're too fucking busy trying to make our stuff work today. So clearly there's no point in corresponding with you if your to busy to listen. Putting that advice into practice would have required next to zero extra time. f. --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Watt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/7/05, Doug Schepers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact, none of this is new; I told you about the issue on your own svg-and-the-dom list *2 years* ago [1]. You were warned long before you created the content that you are now claiming FF breaks. Oh, now that *is* interesting. *Very* interesting. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: setAttributeNS is dumb,dumb,dumb!
On 10/6/05, Francis Hemsher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm willing to meet MOZ halfway...If they recognize that, not just myself, but many others need a means of FF accepting their current ASV efforts, not totally ignoring their creations. I'll be frank. I'm a little pissed of here. I don't mind taking part in genuine discussions, and answering genuine questions like benamou and richard's, but this just gets on my nerves. Several people have gone to considerable lengths to explain why this shouldn't and won't happen. Several people have taken the time to write you code that will provide you with a means to get your content working in standards compliant SVG implementations. But you've decide you're above all that and can ignore everyone's efforts and input. Have you even read what people have written, or looked at the code they took the time to write for you? The DOM specification is clear. We will not be breaking it for the reasons that have already been made clear. I think it's very interesting that you ignored the advice you were given two years ago to prepare for the future by using the correct namespace aware methods. Now you're reaping the cost of your anti future stance. Don't come crying asking moz to meet you half way. Is it regretable that much of the content already out there that has been written to ASV rather than the standards won't work in Moz? Yes. It is. I'm sorry for everyone out there who genuinely didn't know any better when the wrote for ASV. But unfortunately the situation is now stuck as it is. As well as contributing my unpayed time to help improve MozSVG, I've spent a lot of my own time helping authors get their SVG to conform to the standards and work cross-browser. I've also spent time writing docs explaining potential problems and how author's can resolve them. Many others have, and continue to do the same. How about you do something positive here and help spread awareness of the issues so others don't fall into the trap you did Francis? How about you at least follow and point out the few pieces of advice at: http://jwatt.org/svg/authoring/ to others? It will be a lot more constructive and helpful for the success of SVG than your current stance. At lease stop with the rude, antagonistic, abrasive and inflamitory emails that have come to be your hallmark. All of this no doubt turns away people who come to this list still not sure if SVG is for them, and in the long run it harms the success of SVG. If MOZ incorpoates a parsing process that recognizes this, then I will bust my butt to work with them on the browser/viewer communication, and probably help a hell of lot in that area. What's wrong with the browser/viewer communication, and in what way could help with it? Otherwise, I will not consider FireFox as an environment for my work at this time. That's your choice. Others won't make the mistake of throwing away almost 100 million potential viewers because they had to make some fairly trivial changes to their code. (search and replace!) Regards, Jonathan Regards, Francis --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Watt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/6/05, Robin Berjon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan Watt wrote: But what if you go against these instructions? What if you use createElement instead of createElementNS in your SVG documents? What should happen? Is it possible that it could create an element in the same namespace as the element you called it on? Well yes. Probably it is. The specifications don't say what the namespace ignorant methods should do. That's why it says not to use them. (Probably the DOM WG when discussing what should happen couldn't come to an agreement, so they left it unspecified, making it possible to get into the mess we find ourselves in now.) [sfx: coughing bordering on choking] Careful Robin. I want a SVG 1.1 errata, so don't go dying on me! :- ) From the DOM 3 Core spec: A new Element object with the nodeName attribute set to tagName, and localName, prefix, and namespaceURI set to null. That's what createElement() returns. For setAttribute() things are less directly limpid, but it still says To set an attribute with a qualified name and namespace URI, use the setAttributeNS method. What DOM 3 Core spec? Ooooh...DOM 3 Core is finally a REC!! I don't know how that slipped under my radar. Well, what I said is correct for DOM 2 Core. I just hadn't noticed DOM 3 Core had arrived (some 18 months ago or so no less) and set all this in stone. Probably because I'm busy with SVG 1.1, which has DOM 2 as its normative reference. So, basically everyone should read Robin's post. This decision has been made, and there's no chance this will change now, for better or for worse. We're going to have to get used to it. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe
Re: [svg-developers] Re: setAttributeNS is dumb,dumb,dumb!
On 10/7/05, Francis Hemsher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hai, Jonathan Hey. Fistly, I am appreciative that you didn't respond under the ego thingy. Secondly, off to the aside, I respect your comments, but I don't yet place you in sainthood of SVG(maybe later after we are all fat and sassy). Heh. Good, good, I wouldn't want you to do that. There are a lot others that would be far more deserving. You are involved with some folks that have disappointed us in the past. It would make me nauseous to recount how moz has fucked me over in the past 10 years by promises unkept. I'm sorry to hear that. Would you mind cutting out some of the profanity though? There is no way I will deal with them until I am assured they will not wilt by needs of developers nor competiton. No chance we'll change this. It's fixed, and according to the standards. Also, Jonathan, I don't care if your are pissed...I'm pissed, but I don't expect anyone to loose any sleep over it. Good policy, and on that note I'm off to bed. :-) -Jonathan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Firefox 1.5 beta 2 released
Firefox 1.5 beta 2 has been released. This will be the final beta before 1.5proper. Despite its beta label, this build should have good stability, so I'd encourage everyone to take it for a spin. Those of you who have beta 1 installed should be able to use the software update feature to upgrade to beta 2 without having to download a new installer. Everyone else can download a beta 2 installer from. http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/ Regards, Jonathan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: DOM Nodelist whitespace
Hi Martin, On 9/21/05, Martin Honnen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The W3C DOM would suggest to use e.g. childNode.nodeType == Node.ELEMENT_NODE Actually I'm not sure it does require Node to be a globally exposed object. That's why I used childNode.ELEMENT_NODE since it does require that these constants are available on all node instances. but while Mozilla exposes Node and Node.ELEMENT_NODE I don't think that Adobe SVG viewer (3.x) for instance does that. Nor does IE for instance when you script HTML. The latter is of course not relevant to SVG scripting but for me it is easier to write DOM script in one way that I think works in many different implementations instead of trying to adapt to particular implementation. That is why I usually avoid using e.g. Node.ELEMENT_NODE so far and have the number it represents in the code. Yes, I thought there would be implementations that wouldn't expose Node globally which is why I didn't use it. What you suggest, childNode.ELEMENT_NODE, is not supported in Adobe SVG viewer either. Nor in other DOM implementations I know, beside Mozilla's DOM implementation. This *really* surprised me. Constants are hardly something that are difficult to implement!! I assumed that if someone can implement .nodeType, the would surely have implemented the constants too. If I thought any implementers might have had difficulty with them it would have occured to me that I should have tested before sending that email. ;-) Anyway, thanks for putting me right on the current status of implementations out there. -Jonathan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: DOM Nodelist whitespace
On 9/21/05, Martin Honnen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Cameron McCormack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Honnen: What you suggest, childNode.ELEMENT_NODE, is not supported in Adobe SVG viewer either. Nor in other DOM implementations I know, beside Mozilla's DOM implementation. This works in Batik. It should work in all conformant viewers, AFAICT, since those constants are members of the Node interface, which all of the DOM nodes should implement. But they are static members of the Node interface, so in both the Java binding and the ECMAScript binding Node.ELEMENT_NODE should work to comply with the W3C DOM specification: Node is an interface, not an object, and I don't know of any requirements to expose a global objects with the same names as an interfaces like this. http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-2-Core/ecma-script-binding.html http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-2-Core/java-binding.html but I don't see any requirement in there that instances of nodes need to have these constants as properties/members. All objects that implement the Node interface must expose all it's constants, attributes and methods. As you can see in ecma-script-binding.html the constants are part of the Prototype Object Node which seems to indicate they could be made available by all ECMAScript Node objects using the ECMAScript prototype mechanism. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Re: DOM Nodelist whitespace
On 9/21/05, Jim Ley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All objects that implement the Node interface must expose all it's constants, attributes and methods. As you can see in ecma-script-binding.html the constants are part of the Prototype Object Node which seems to indicate they could be made available by all ECMAScript Node objects using the ECMAScript prototype mechanism. But they are Host objects, so there is no requirement to have a prototype mechanism of any Sort. I was talking about ECMAScript objects, in which case the logical way to do this would seem to be to use ECMAScripts prototype mechanism. I didn't say this was a requirement. The only requirement is to implement the interface at: http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-2-Core/core.html#ID-1950641247 -Jonathan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: DOM Nodelist whitespace
On 9/20/05, Martin Honnen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
var childNodes = someElement.childNodes;
for (var i = 0; i childNodes.length; i++) {
var childNode = childNodes[i];
if (childNode.nodeType == 1) { // element node
// process element node if you want
}
else if (childNode.nodeType == 3) { // text node
// process text node if you want
}
}
Why not loose the comments and use the self commenting constants?
if (childNode.nodeType == childNode.ELEMENT_NODE) {
...
}
else if (childNode.nodeType == childNode.TEXT_NODE) {
...
}
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Re: [svg-developers] IE won't load svg as object inside html
Hi On 9/2/05, stig_kronback [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: object data=http://localhost/svg_dev/diagrams/diagram2209.svg; width=1000 height=500 type=image/svg+xml/ This probably isn't the cause of your problem in IE, but note that the HTML 'object' element is not an empty element. In other words you should close it with /object and not using a final slash in your opening object tag. Although your example may appear to work in Firefox, if you put any content after the object tag as you have it now, you'll find it doesn't show. This is because Firefox (and possibly other browsers, I don't know) won't recognise that you've closed the 'object' element, so it thinks the content that follows it is actually alternative content. I hope that helps eliminate some future problems if not your current one. ;-) -Jonathan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: getURL parameter type mismatch error within handleEvent on ASV using prototypes
Hi Klaus,
I think there are issues with using the same object as both an event
handler and getURL callback. I probably caught that in the #svg
channel on irc.freenode.org. Try googling svg.jibbering.com to see if
the logs have any useful info.
On 8/24/05, arosyada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi
in line :
addEventListener(click,this,false)
'this' will be handled by 'Strange.prototype.handleEvent'
but in line :
getURL(strange.svg,this);
'this' refers to 'Strange'
maybe you can use something like :
getURL(strange.svg,this.callback);
Strange.prototype.callback = function(response){
}
for addEventListener, in ASV 'this' will refer to the object, but in
CSV and Batik, 'this' refers to js 'Function' native object.
Hi amri,
Did you test this? The 'this' keyword should be a reference to the
Strange object in both cases, and from my quick test in Batik 1.6 this
seems to be the case. (I haven't tested CSV.)
amri
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are there any know issues with using getURL in combination with
prototypes, handleEvent and operationComplete in ASV3/6? the
following
code yields a parameter type mismatch error for getURL
passing this as
callback-function argument and i don't see a reason why it should ;-
)
strange.svg:
svg
script type=text/javascript![CDATA[
function Strange() {
document.getElementById(r).addEventListener
(click,this,false);
}
Strange.prototype.handleEvent = function(evt) {
getURL(strange.svg,this);
}
Strange.prototype.operationComplete = function(req) {
alert(req.success);
}
new Strange();
]]/script
rect id=r x=20 y=20 width=40 height=30 /
/svg
any ideas how to solve this?
klaus
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Re: [svg-developers] Help with SkewY for newbie!
Hi, Skew applies to the coordinate system (as with any transform), not just the object. The skewX will be shifting the rectangle too, it's just that the 'y' attribute is so close to zero it isn't so noticable. Set 'y' to 588 or something and apply/remove the skewX and you'll see what I mean. If you don't want to move the rectangle you can set a translate transform instead of x and y attributes on the rect. E.g.: rect width=12 height=20 transform=translate(588,6) skewY(20) stroke-width=1 stroke=navy fill=#FF/ -Jonathan P.S. Note I removed your 'style' attribute and used the 'stroke-width' attributes directly. It's best to avoid style whenever possible. On 8/12/05, P Ramesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have the following code: svg id=root width=700 height=400 g id=xBtn rect x=544 y=0 width=32 height=32 style=stroke- width:1;stroke:navy;fill:white/ rect x=552 y=6 width=12 height=20 style=stroke- width:1;stroke:silver;fill:#FF/ rect x=552 y=6 width=12 height=20 transform=skewX(20) style=stroke-width:1;stroke:navy;fill:#FF/ /g g id=yBtn rect x=580 y=0 width=32 height=32 style=stroke- width:1;stroke:navy;fill:white/ rect x=588 y=6 width=12 height=20 style=stroke- width:1;stroke:silver;fill:#FF/ rect x=588 y=6 width=12 height=20 transform=skewY(20) style=stroke-width:1;stroke:navy;fill:#FF/ /g /svg When I run this in IE6 with ASV3, the skewX transform works fine but the skewY shifts the rectangle. Can anyone please point out the mistake? Many thanks in advance, Ramesh - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hmkjo34/M=362329.6886308.7839368.1510227/D=groups/S=1706030389:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123875778/A=2894321/R=0/SIG=11dvsfulr/*http://youthnoise.com/page.php?page_id=1992 Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back!/a./font ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Detect native SVG support
First off, I've noticed that my suggested script doesn't work in IE6
since it doesn't seem to implement createElementNS. To prevent a
script error I'll revise my script to:
var hasNativeSVG = false;
try {
if (document.createElementNS('http://www.w3.org/2000/svg','svg').width)
hasNativeSVG = true;
} catch (e) { /* ignore exception */ };
On 7/28/05, Holger Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Jonathan,
in most cases i tend to favor the objectalternate content/object -
syntax, which works without script.
Yup, but John asked for a script, so that's what I was trying to do.
Also the object approach will not differentiate between plug-in and
native support.
i've tried the following without success, and i wonder if the behavior
is specified like this or if its a bug.
object ...
img ... onload=alert('SVG not supported')/
/object
I thought you were trying not to rely on script support. j/k ;-)
THIS DOES NOT WORK !
the onload allways gets fired. is this right? do html clients allways
load both the objects content and the alternate content ?
is there another event that can be used ? is there any other specified
way to determin if object renders the original content or the alternate
content ?
Hmm, I'm not sure. That the onload get's evaluated seems like a bug to me.
-Jonathan
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Re: [svg-developers] Re: Detect native SVG support
Hi Mark, You're quite right of course. This would be the *real* way to do it, and Mozilla happily returns true for both tests. Opera doesn't support scripting of SVG (yet) I believe, so the test won't work for it, but as far as *script* testing goes this is definately the way to do it. Thanks! Jonathan On 7/28/05, Mark Birbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, We shouldn't really have to check for the existence of methods, etc. An HTML DOM that can have SVG inline should really return true for one of: document.implementation.hasFeature(org.w3c.dom.svg, 1.0) or: document.implementation.hasFeature(http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/feature#SVG;, 1.1) I haven't tried it, but I would say that's what Opera and Mozilla _should_ provide (and may well do). Regards, Mark - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Detect native SVG support
I'm told that we are doing the right thing, and that not render doesn't mean not parse. Alternative content should still appear in the DOM as usual, and any img elements should have their content loaded. Hence the onload should fire. It seems a bit counter to what you'd expect, but there you go. On 7/28/05, Holger Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i dont know what ive tested last time, but this indeed seems to work in IE and Opera, so this is probably a bug in mozilla, in which component would i post this bug ? - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Native mozilla svg onclick event only activates once
Hi, can you submit a bug reports using the form here:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Corecomponent=SVG
please? It would also be excellent if you could attach a reduced
testcase (the simplest SVG document that still demonstrates the
problem) on the bug after you've filed it.
Thanks!
-Jonathan
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Date: Jul 22, 2005 5:49 PM
Subject: [svg-developers] Native mozilla svg onclick event only activates once
To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
I have been developing a GUI for a website recently and have come
across a problem. The GUI is a series of 4 iframes, the 1st of which
loads with SVG content which contains many circle / elements each
with an onclick event to change the src value of the the 2nd iframe.
This is fine, and works in IE with ASV however in Deer Park Alpha 2
(Firefox 1.1 pre-release) the onclick event works for one circle, and
then another, but never lets me reload something thats been reloaded
once before.
Further investigation has shown me that multiple alert() commands
work, I can click that many times. My onclick code is as follows.
circle cx=638 cy=836 r=1 fill=white
onclick=top.document.getElementById('map_info').src='/mini_map/mini_map_info.php?sid=198';
/
The other circles are similar just with different cx, cy and sid in
the link. Any ideas?
Thanks
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Re: [svg-developers] Detect native SVG support
Perhaps something like
var hasNativeSVG =
document.createElementNS('http://www.w3.org/2000/svg','svg').viewBox ?
true : false;
will do what you want? If the implementation doesn't support SVG, then
the element it creates won't have a 'viewBox' property. There's
probably a lighterweight way of doing this, but I haven't thought
about it too deeply. ;-)
On 7/23/05, jophof007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone has a solution on detecting native svg support. Deer park
Alpha 2 supports native svg. How can a client javascript detect that
deerpark alpha 2 is running or how can a client javascript detect that
native svg support is available?
We like to make our diagram editor native svg compliant in
open-modeing (http://open-modeing.sourceforge.net).
Thanx in advance.
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Re: [svg-developers] Re: Detect native SVG support
Hi John,
Mozilla has supported the 'viewBox' property for a long time, but
let's forget about that. It would actually be better to use a property
that will almost certainly be implemented - the 'width' property seems
like a good candidate. So you would use:
var hasNativeSVG =
document.createElementNS('http://www.w3.org/2000/svg','svg').width ?
true : false;
I'm not sure I can explain why this should work any clearer than I
already have, but here goes. If the implementation doesn't support
SVG, then the element that's created as a result of the
createElementNS call *won't* have a 'width' property. If the
implementation does support SVG, then the element that's created as a
result of the createElementNS call *will* have a 'width' property.
This seems like a good way to test for native SVG support to me. If
you don't think so, can you have a go at explain why?
Regards,
Jonathan
On 7/27/05, jophof007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Sounds as a solution. But Mozilla is trying to implement zoom and pan
things so a viewbox will appear in future I think.
It is not that easy to determine.
John
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wrote:
Perhaps something like
var hasNativeSVG =
document.createElementNS('http://www.w3.org/2000/svg','svg').viewBox ?
true : false;
will do what you want? If the implementation doesn't support SVG, then
the element it creates won't have a 'viewBox' property. There's
probably a lighterweight way of doing this, but I haven't thought
about it too deeply. ;-)
On 7/23/05, jophof007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone has a solution on detecting native svg support. Deer park
Alpha 2 supports native svg. How can a client javascript detect that
deerpark alpha 2 is running or how can a client javascript detect that
native svg support is available?
We like to make our diagram editor native svg compliant in
open-modeing (http://open-modeing.sourceforge.net).
Thanx in advance.
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Re: [svg-developers] The Future of SVG
On 6/30/05, Holger Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan Watt schrieb: So you can do all types of cross-document scripting in Firefox, but just in a different (i.e. W3C standard) way. I've put up heavily commented demos showing how to script from HTML to an embedded SVG document and it's scripts here: http://jwatt.org/svg/demos/scripting-across-embed.html http://jwatt.org/svg/demos/scripting-across-object.html will these files stay at this url? the question is comming up regularly, and in the future i would like to point people to these fine examples. Yes, I intend to keep them there. Thanks Holger. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Problem with SVG and Javascript
I would recommend that instead of removing 'document.' you make it
document.getElementById('SVGdata').elements...
This should work in a wider range of browsers, and is likely to
continue working in future.
On 6/30/05, Nicholas Lucaroni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
looks decent... try removing 'document.' ?
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I want to manipulate the value of a HTML form by Javascript.
I got this error message: 'document.SVGdata.elements is Null or no
object'. I really don't know why.
BTW: the HTML code is embedded in a portlet (Jetspeed2 Portal).
Maybe
this could help finding a solution.
That's the Javascript function:
function onclickFunction(evt)
{
seat = evt.getTarget();
document.SVGdata.elements['SeatNr'].value=seat.getAttribute
(id);document.SVGdata.submit();
}
(I also tried 'document.SVGdata.SeatNr.value',
'document.forms['SVGdata'}.elements['SeatNr'].value')
...and that's the HTML code:
form name=SVGdata id=SVGdata method=POST
action=http://localhost:8080/;
input type=hidden name=SeatNr value=
/form
embed src=http://localhost:8080/HelloWorld/Test.svg;
type=image/svg-xml width=100px height=100px/
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Re: [svg-developers] The Future of SVG
On 6/29/05, Holger Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug Schepers schrieb: Rick Bullotta wrote: | | I'll check it out tonight (with a beer in my hand)! Thanks | for the heads up. Is browser-SVG scripting support enabled? I'm not sure if it is enabled in the same way that it is for ASV+IE... yes it is, on embed you got the getSVGDocument() method, and on object you can use contentDocument and contentWindow. as far as i can tell the only missing part is the getWindow() method on embed. so if you need to have functions defiend in your SVG and you want to access them from your html, youll have to use object. Actually you can use embed. You can then use the W3C standard property 'defaultView' on the SVGDocument object to access the SVG document's 'window' object (and hence the scripts defined in it). So you can do all types of cross-document scripting in Firefox, but just in a different (i.e. W3C standard) way. I've put up heavily commented demos showing how to script from HTML to an embedded SVG document and it's scripts here: http://jwatt.org/svg/demos/scripting-across-embed.html http://jwatt.org/svg/demos/scripting-across-object.html - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] SVG turned on in mozilla nightly builds
On 4/27/05, Holger Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone according to http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/chase/archives/2005/04/svg_here_we_com.html SVG is now available in all nightly builds of mozilla / firefox ( at least for Win and Mac builds) thats great news, i think, and i want to take the opportunity to once again thank all mozilla hackers especially the SVG Team. cheers Holger Cheers, Holger. But note that although SVG is built into the nightlies, it isn't quite turned on as such. You still need to set a configuration preference to turn it on (see http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/tor/archives/2005/02/important_svg_b.html ). Having said that this should change shortly - keep an eye on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=292160 - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Help regarding evt event
On 4/15/05, callyourshiva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
When i run my SVG (.svg file) in my browser it's running fine.
when i load the same file on to Citrix machine and some other machines
it's giving an Jscript error:evt is undefined.Please let me know why it
is giving this error .I'm falling short of time.In both the machines we
have Adobe SVG Viewer Installed.
I think in ASV3 evt was a global object, but that in ASV6 this has
been fixed. I'm not sure if that's correct or not since I haven't got
round to testing it properly yet. Anyone else know for sure?
In any case, make sure that you are passing evt _explicitly_ in your
event attribute like this:
svg onload=init(evt)
and that you have an explicit parameter in your function 'init' to
enable you to reference the event object:
function init(evt) {
alert(evt);
}
Don't have onload=init() and function init() { ... } since this
won't work in other browsers, and doesn't seem to work in ASV6.
Another one: Could we add scrolling features to an SVG document.
I added zooming features but it is not seeming nice.Help me out in this
aspect.
Waiting for all your valuable replies.
Regards,
Shiva Kumar Soma
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Re: [svg-developers] Re: Help regarding evt event
On 4/15/05, welkerpaul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Watt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I think in ASV3 evt was a global object, but that in ASV6 this has
been fixed. I'm not sure if that's correct or not since I haven't
got
round to testing it properly yet. Anyone else know for sure?
In any case, make sure that you are passing evt _explicitly_ in
your
event attribute like this:
svg onload=init(evt)
and that you have an explicit parameter in your function 'init' to
enable you to reference the event object:
function init(evt) {
alert(evt);
}
Don't have onload=init() and function init() { ... } since this
won't work in other browsers, and doesn't seem to work in ASV6.
Jonathan,
IMOSHO your know-it-all attitude isn't accurate this time;-)
AFAIUI svg onload=init(evt) cannot work if evt isn't a global
attribute.
AAMOF, if there's no event, there's no evt object (window.evt attrib
=null).
Well I haven't a clue what those acronyms mean, so clearly I don't
know it all. ;-) Seriously though, if I come across as being a bit
arrogant, I appologise. I don't know half the stuff that some of the
people on this list know so I certainly don't want to seem to be a
know it all. I'm aware my contributions can be a bit curt, but
that's more to do with time constraints than attitude. I simply want
to help ensure the SVG out there is portable by correcting some of the
errors I see posted to the list that will cause things to break in
implementations other than ASV. I hope others on the list would point
out any mistakes I make (both those that would cause portability
problems, and any others).
Anyway, back to the question in hand. I seem to recall the DOM 2
Events spec says something about event objects being passed as an
argument to the first parameter of the event handler. The implication
of this is that you need to make sure the handler has at least one
parameter, and that it's that parameter that you use to refer to the
event object.
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Re: [svg-developers] Re: Help regarding evt event
Thanks Kerry, I appreciate you saying so. :-) On 4/15/05, Kerry Coffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan, You are not arrogant at all. You're comments and advice are worth reading. Keep them coming. Kerry - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] set width and height from svg with javascript
On Apr 12, 2005 4:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is not so complicated as you tried to make it.
svg onload=init(evt)
Please make that:
svg onload=init(evt)
xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg;
xmlns:xlink=http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink;
So that your SVG will work in Mozilla.
script type=text/javascript
Please remove the 'type' attribute so your SVG will work in Batik.
function init(evt)
{
var elem = evt.target;
elem.setAttribute('width',window.innerWidth);
elem.setAttribute('height',window.innerHeight);
}
/script
/svg
That will set the width/height of your SVG to the size of the browser
window, I think that is what you were trying to do.
Regards,
Keir Gordon
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Re: [svg-developers] Re: MHTML (web Archive) / SVG / Javascript problem
On Apr 12, 2005 5:29 PM, Jonathan Watt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 12, 2005 5:14 PM, riverside6 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
While window.document.embeds('FP').window is undefined,
window.document.embeds('FP') is defined, so the embed does exist.
I have to think this is some setting on my machine, but at this point
I'm both helpless and clueless. Please help!
BTW, a more portable way to get the SVG document and it's global
window object is to use a function like the one below from your
HTML. Your HTML scripts should then be able to access your SVG in
Mozilla as well, and hopefully also in Batik.
function setSVGVars()
{
// create two global variables that should point to the SVG document
// and its window
window.svgdoc = null;
window.svgwin = null;
// get the embed object using getElementById!
var embed = document.getElementById('embed_id');
try {
// ASV doesn't allow us to test for getSVGDocument so we just have
to call it.
// We should catch exceptions thrown by browers that don't support it.
window.svgdoc = embed.contentDocument || embed.getSVGDocument();
}
catch (e) {
// ignore exception and check whether svgdoc == null later
}
window.svgwin = svgdoc svgdoc.defaultView || embed.window || null;
}
After calling this function you should be able to access your SVG
document using svgdoc, and access functions and variables defined in
scripts in your SVG document using svgwin.functionOrVariableName.
If the SVG document couldn't be accessed then svgdoc will be set to
null. If the SVG document's global window object couldn't be
accessed then svgwin will be set to null.
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Re: [svg-developers] Firefox crashes on Refresh
Probably you should read: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/svg/faq.html#asv On Apr 12, 2005 6:15 PM, Shopana Periasamy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am struggling with this problem. Firefox browser crashes when ever I tried to reload a SVG File. The same file is not crashing in IE. I have the SVG File embedded in HTML using embed tag. But it doesn't matter. Because it crashes even if it is not embedded. I am having Adobe SVG Viewer as the plug-in for Firefox. Any idea or work around for this problem? Thanks a lot Regards, Shopana. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: HTML to SVG communication
On Apr 8, 2005 9:47 AM, Holger Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: unfortunately that won't work. With the current Adobe SVG viewer and web browsers you can only use Internet-Explorer to do such things. since 2005-03-23 mozillaSVG implements the getSVGDocument() method on html embed elements. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=281741 Since the 22nd actually. ;-) so you can make inter document communication work in both IE+ASV3/6 and Mozilla with native SVG support. see: http://www.treebuilder.de/svg/interdoc/interdoccom2.html in order to get things going in FF+ASV maybe some votes on this bug could help: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115528 I doubt it. That bug isn't assigned to anyone. regards Holger - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] DTD declaration, was:Re: google and SVG
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:53:40 +0200, Robin Berjon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [sorry if you get this twice, email problems being solved...] Andreas Neumann wrote: The DOCTYPE is totally irrelevant well, but the DTD is necessary to validate the SVG. If you use a XML validator you have to reference the DTD. No you don't. You can validate the SVG using the DTD with an XML processor without having to reference the DTD in the DOCTYPE. In fact it's better that way as you can choose various DTDs. Use DTDs for validation if you want (they won't validate much but it's a start) but don't use DOCTYPE. It's useless. The most accessible validator is the one provided at validator.w3.org - it doesn't allow you to specify the DTD that should be used. It may allow you to select a Doctype, but SVG isn't on the list that's provided. It seems to me that it's still useful to include a DOCTYPE in this case. Furthermore, for those of us who get emails saying this page doesn't work in your SVG implementation it would be useful to be able to throw the URL into the W3C validator to help in debugging without having to manually choose/type an SVG DTD URL as well. Even if DOCTYPEs don't have clear uses to you, why so strongly discourage their use unless they are actively harmful? -- Robin Berjon Research Scientist Expway, http://expway.com/ - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Old Viewer SVG 3.01 with mozilla
If the builds you are using have native SVG support, then the plug-in will be ignored. It sounds like this may be the case, and that you're experiencing the problem described here: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/svg/faq.html#source I've got to ask though, why aren't you using Mozilla 1.7.5? Also note: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/svg/faq.html#iasv On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:51:01 -, racapi02 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. I am trying to run SVG files by using mozilla. Since mozilla native svg implemtation do not have implemented the animations yet I would like to use the old way: install ASVG plugin in mozilla. I have done it but I am having some problems: although the mozilla plugins information page say that the plugin is installed I can not see anything on the screen when I try to open a SVG file (even a simple one). Of course, I can see the source but not the image :S. Any idea? I have tried with several mozilla builds since 1.4.1 till 1.6 (which incrediblely is running in other computer and allows to view SVG files). I'm running Suse 9.2 (and Suse 9.1 in the computer that allows to view the files) Am I missing something? Thanks in advance. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] controls of HTML
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:35:47 +0100, Philippe Lhoste [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MARCIO RIBEIRO wrote: Personal good night... I am finding very good to study SVG and he/she would like to know if it is possible to use controls of HTML in SVG. Example. Form, Input text, textarea, checkbox,radio group ... If somebody to pass examples I am thanked. It seems that nobody answered your message, at least publicly. The answer to your question is: NO. You can't use HTML controls in SVG. Sure you can, this works in Mozilla's native SVG implementation: :-) http://jwatt.org/svg/demos/button-demo.svg Now, on IE with ASV, you can embed a SVG into an HTML with controls, and interact with it. It won't work with Mozilla though. I think probably half my posts to this list have been regarding how to do it with Mozilla's native implementation. It works perfectly. If you meant it doesn't work for *ASV* in Mozilla, then you are correct. SVG 1.1 has no concept of GUI controls as native component. But in GUI (graphical user interface), there is G, a domain where SVG shines. So many SVG developers drawn UI widgets and used JavaScript to control the interaction with the user. So you can have text edit widgets, sliders and scroll bars, combo boxes and lists, various buttons of course, etc. I believe that if you google around for SVG and GUI, you will find useful links. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Cannot get Firefox w/ Native SVG to work
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:07:20 -, Jan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Watt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - first, since Feb 21, they introduce an option to enable/disable SVG and it is disable by default (check http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/tor/archives/2005/02/important_svg_b.ht ml) Yes, this is an important announcement, and it's probably the reason. Be sure to read it if you're using Mozilla Suite/Mozilla Firefox with native SVG support built in. I set the svg.enabled preference and that made a difference, however, now I'm getting my svg code displayed instead of my svg image. I know I read somewhere that someone else had that same problem, but can't remember what the fix was for that. Can anyone help? Read: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/svg/faq.html#source and also check whether the version you downloaded works with: http://jwatt.org/moz/circles1.svgz since I know that should work in Moz. I suspect that you were testing by trying to view SVG files from a misconfigures server, but if that doesn't work let me know. Check out the rest of the FAQ since that might answer some of the questions you don't even realise you have yet. -Jonathan - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] General web svg architecture
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:17:26 -, Jan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm developing a web site using svg, php, Javascript, and html. It is a traffic map application that has layer controls, zooming, panning, etc. The svg for the map is generated by php code and then displayed and is embedded within the html. The map will also display icons for traffic incidents. The page will also allow for a textual listing of the traffic incidents by clicking on an html link. The problem I have right now is that the traffic incident data will be stored within a Javascript array within the svg for the map and is not available to the containing html parent. I found a solution for communicating between html and svg that works in IE, but I don't believe it will work in Netscape or Mozilla. This depends on whether you're talking about Mozilla with native SVG support, or Mozilla with the ASV 6 alpha installed. ASV does not support scripting to and from Mozilla, and I guess they will wait until they finalise ASV 6 before adding that support, so forget about scripting between the two documents in this case. At the moment if you want to embed SVG by reference into an HTML file, Mozilla with native SVG will support direct script access from the HTML to the SVG if you use the object or iframe tags. Currently the embed tag does not allow you to script from the HTML to the SVG document directly. (I plan to write a patch to add a contentDocument attribute or getSVGDocument method to the 'embed' object, but unfortunately I'm unlikely to get to this before SVG is built into the official Mozilla 1.8 (hopefully) builds.) If you want to script across embed you will need to push a reference to the SVG document up to the HTML document first. Since ASV has removed the script link between itself and IE if the SVG is embeded using the object tag I would imagine that you are using the embed or iframe tag. To create a link between the HTML and SVG document for Mozilla put something like the following in a script in your SVG document. top.svgDoc = document; // creates a reference in the HTML to the SVG document top.svgWin = window; // creates a reference in the HTML to the SVG document's 'window' Scripts in your HTML document can then check for window.svgDoc and window.svgWin and use them once they've been set. My question is: how are most people developing their svg sites, especially map sites? Are most people doing everything in svg and are most people using a combination of svg and html? If so, how is the communication between the two done so that things work in both browsers? Should I be developing my map controls and links in svg as well instead of trying to communicate between html and svg? Jan - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Mozilla/Firefox Issue, Please Help
On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:19:17 -, academyhtml [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm using an embed along with a getsvgdocument() to access SVG elements from an HTML file (see below). embed name=svgFile1... (in the html) svgdoc = svgFile1.getSVGDocument(); (in the js) This doesn't work in Mozilla's native SVG implementation or in Mozilla + ASV since Mozilla's native SVG implementation doesn't implement the GetSVGDocument interface (yet), and neither does ASV when run in Mozilla. After pouring through the messages here I realize why this doesn't work in FF/Moz, but I wasn't able to find an alternative way of accessing the SVG DOM from the html. In Mozilla there is no way for scripts in an HTML document to access an SVG document embeded by reference if it's embeded using the embed tag. The only way you will be able to access an embeded SVG document is if you embed it using the object tag. If you use object then you can access the SVG document using .getSVGDocument() in IE+ASV and .contentDocument in Mozilla with *native* SVG. Can anyone provide me with an alt. way I can implement this, not using getsvgdocument that will work on both IE and FF/Moz? TIA - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Mozilla/Firefox Issue, Please Help
Not at this point in time. You need the native SVG support in FF/Moz. This may change with a future release of ASV. On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 19:28:12 -, academyhtml [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So even with the use of the object tag, with ASV there is no way to access the svg from scripts in the html through FF/Moz then? --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Watt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 22:04:34 -, academyhtml [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would somebody be able to provide an example of what was suggested previously within the framework of the code I posted earlier: embed name=svgFile1... (in the html) svgdoc = svgFile1.getSVGDocument(); (in the js) Thx. As I said, you can't access the SVG document if you use embed. You need to use object. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Mozilla/Firefox Issue, Please Help
That shouldn't be too difficult to do, but I'd be interested nonetheless. On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 13:15:02 -0700, Rerun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a php solution that works for both IE and Mozilla if anyone is interested. It only requires one HTML/XHTML doc. They are the same, but I create them slightly different depending on browser type. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Mozilla/Firefox Issue, Please Help
On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 04:20:12 -, tcorbet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, academyhtml
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Would somebody be able to provide an example of what was suggested
previously within the framework of the code I posted earlier:
embed name=svgFile1... (in the html)
svgdoc = svgFile1.getSVGDocument(); (in the js)
01. Jonathon's helpful suggestion means you have to code something
like this:
object name=yourSVGName data=yourSVGFile type=image/svg+xml
width=400 height=300
embed name = yourSVGName src=yourSVGFile type=image/svg+xml
width=400 height=300 /
/object
Well, in so far as I only talked about the 'object' element.
I realize that even this snippet only adds to the confusion, but see
http://wiki.svg.org/index.php/EmbedingSvgInHTML for a thoughtful
discussion about why the method of embedding the svg is client agent
peculiar.
Then, in your JavaScript, you would replace your:
var svgDoc = svgFile1.getSVGDocument();
with
var svgDoc = HTMLObjectElement.contentDocument.defaultView;
Unfortunately Jonathon's suggestion does not fix our problem. When you
open the Firfox JavaScript Console instead of seeing:
Error: SVGObject is not defined
you will see:
Error: HTMLObjectElement.contentDocument has no properties
I hope you didn't literally use HTMLObjectElement. HTMLObjectElement
is an interface that should be implemented by the object that
corresponds to the object tag. You should be doing something like:
document.getElementById('myObjectElementsID').contentDocument.defaultView;
If you're using a Mozilla based browser with native SVG support, the
object returned by the getElementById call should implement the
HTMLObjectElement interface, and so you can use .contentDocument on
it. If it doesn't implement this interface you're probably not using
native SVG support, and yes, you will probably get an error something
like
Error: document.getElementById('myObjectElementsID').contentDocument
has no properties
02. Now for the really bad news. Even if you had coded the way Adobe
recommended at http://www.adobe.com/svg/demos/colorpicker/colorpicker.html
var svgDoc = document.svgFile1.getSVGDocument();
you would have seen:
Error: document.SVGObject.getSVGDocument is not a function
That might have caused you to find recommendations like:
var svgDoc = document.embeds[svgFile1].getSVGDocument();
or
var svgDoc = document.embeds[0].getSVGDocument();
but don't waste your time. There is NO documented way to gain a
proper reference to the svg tag content from the html script
engine when using ASV6 with Firefox.
To be more precise, there is no way to access your SVG document from
your embeding HTML document in Mozilla/Mozilla Firefox + ASV --
documented _or_ undocumented.
03. I do not know what the problem is. I have posted to every
reputable site and filed a bug with Adobe. For some reason, unknown
to me, there is a purposeful hiding of the svg elements from the
DOM. If, instead of relying on the JavaScript Console, you use the
wonderful DOM Inspector, it becomes clear. Where a node ought to have
content, there is merely #text. That is what is preventing us from
being able to use html controls to work with svg content.
I doubt it's a case of hiding it. It's probably simply that there
isn't any code in ASV to connect up code running in a Gecko (Mozilla)
based browser with code running in ASV or visa versa.
What is especially maddening is that what you want to do is possible
when using the ASV with the dreaded IE. It's almost as if the most
esteemed members of the Open Source world -- Mozilla and Adobe -- are
sitting by while the Microsoft juggernaut moves forward on all the
fronts necessary for creating rich clients.
Adobe is a esteemed member of the Open Source world? Regardless, the
contributors to the Mozilla SVG project aren't sitting by.
Mozzila's native SVG
scripting engine promises to open up the svg DOM to the parent
scripting engine, but just go to the W3C pages for SVG compliance and
you see Mozilla sitting way way to the right with a lot of red colors.
And when was that page last updated? See
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/svg/status.html for a more accurate
reflection of what has been implemented to date.
Adobe obviously has a good implementation, but what reason can there
be for beta code that is two years old. Where is the commitment to
the need for implementing svg and xform solutions today.
As I understand it they are waiting for SVG1.2 to be finalised.
Personally I'd quite like them to wait and not add stuff that may be
removed/changed from the spec and introduce even more
incompatibilities between SVG implementations.
04. Finally, you will find in the those wonderful examples from the
books in 2002 the suggestion that you 'push' a reference from svg up
to html since, as we
Re: [svg-developers] Mozilla getStyle GetStyleData JavaScript etc
When using html:object in Mozilla you *can* access the SVGDocument object by using the HTMLObjectElement.contentDocument attribute. http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-2-HTML/html.html#ID-9893177 If you need to access the 'window' of the SVG document from a script in the HTML document you can access it via the defaultView attribute on the SVGDocument object. http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-2-Views/views.html#Views-DocumentView Hence to access a function called mySVGFunc in the SVG document from a script in the HTML document you would use: HTMLObjectElement.contentDocument.defaultView.mySVGFunc() On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 13:49:33 -0700, Rerun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That worked great, and the code is even a bit cleaner. While I'm on the subject of Mozilla implementations, I have another question regarding scripting. Mozilla has implemented the embed tag reluctantly I see, but still advocates the object tag. This is all all well and good, but the object tag doesn't allow the use of JavaScript, neither does the embed tag in a Mozilla browser. Am I up a creek with this, or is there another way to add interactivity with js? - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Mozilla getStyle GetStyleData JavaScript etc
On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 01:35:03 -, couloir007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Code below apparently is an Adobe specific way of setting fill
color. I believe GetStyleData would be the Mozilla equivalent. Not
sure though since I can't get it to work. Does anyone know how to do
this in Mozilla? I've had some limited success altering CSS
attributes, but would like to avoind it if possible. Thank you.
svgobj = document.getElementById(id);
svgstyle = svgobj.getStyle();
svgstyle.setProperty('fill', 'yellow');
The DOM interface to use is CSSStyleDeclaration, see
http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-2-Style/css.html#CSS-CSSStyleDeclaration
Note that setProperty takes *three* arguments. It may be that in ASV
you don't need to provide the last one, but in Mozilla you will so
best to get in the habit of including all three. Normally the third
argument is simply null. In Mozilla your code should look like this:
svgobj = document.getElementById(id);
svgstyle = svgobj.style;
svgstyle.setProperty('fill', 'yellow', null);
And if that doesn't work in ASV then this probably will:
svgobj = document.getElementById(id);
svgstyle = svgobj.style || svgobj.getStyle();
svgstyle.setProperty('fill', 'yellow', null);
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