[swinog] New list for jobs
Dear all, As per SwiNOG Organisation board decision, a new mailing list has been opened, swinog-j...@lists.swinog.ch Topics are: - Jobs offering - Jobs seeking - Discussions about the job market At least one company, Oprandi Partner, will be pushing SwiNOG relevant job offers. SwiNOG Relevant = Networking, Programming (WebDev is here too), System Administration and Helpdesk (starting at 2nd level helpdesk). Rules: - swinog@: Jobs topics will no more be tolerated on the main list (no sanctions are planned for trespassers, feel free to self-regulate this by pointing the jobs list to the trespassers :P) - swinog-jobs@: No archive of the list. - swinog-jobs@: Member list is strictly private (to ensure no email harvesting will be done). - swinog-jobs@: No huge postings, offers must be linked (max email size = 40kb) - swinog-jobs@: accepted-languages: en, de, fr, it; prefered-language: en;\n\n If you're interested in the new list (it doesn't matter if you're looking for a jobs or not, you might just be interested to know what's going on), please subscribe here: -- http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog-jobs -- See you, Pascal ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] New list for jobs
We have a SwiNOG list for anti-spam, for lawful interception and now for jobs...? What's next? Lists for hardware offerings, IPv6, events...? I'm a little concerned, that we'll lose overview. Care to explain, why the board thinks, that this is necessary? A job offer once in a while doesn't hurt. SwiNOG is not a very noisy list IMHO. Kind regards, Viktor On 22.08.2011 13:35, Pascal Gloor wrote: Dear all, As per SwiNOG Organisation board decision, a new mailing list has been opened, swinog-j...@lists.swinog.ch mailto:swinog-j...@swinog.ch Topics are: - Jobs offering - Jobs seeking - Discussions about the job market At least one company, Oprandi Partner, will be pushing SwiNOG relevant job offers. SwiNOG Relevant = Networking, Programming (WebDev is here too), System Administration and Helpdesk (starting at 2nd level helpdesk). Rules: - swinog@: Jobs topics will no more be tolerated on the main list (no sanctions are planned for trespassers, feel free to self-regulate this by pointing the jobs list to the trespassers :P) - swinog-jobs@: No archive of the list. - swinog-jobs@: Member list is strictly private (to ensure no email harvesting will be done). - swinog-jobs@: No huge postings, offers must be linked (max email size = 40kb) - swinog-jobs@: accepted-languages: en, de, fr, it; prefered-language: en;\n\n If you're interested in the new list (it doesn't matter if you're looking for a jobs or not, you might just be interested to know what's going on), please subscribe here: *-- http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog-jobs --* See you, Pascal ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] New list for jobs
well a list doesn't cost anything. I think as well a software developer doesn't like his inbox filled up with law or ciso tips but maybe is interessted to job offers .. and some Tie addicted managers maybe like to offer jobs without read tech messages ;) i would say its a enrichment to have that list. Roger Date sent: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 14:24:43 +0200 From: Viktor Steinmann st...@stony.com To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject:Re: [swinog] New list for jobs We have a SwiNOG list for anti-spam, for lawful interception and now for jobs...? What's next? Lists for hardware offerings, IPv6, events...? I'm a little concerned, that we'll lose overview. Care to explain, why the board thinks, that this is necessary? A job offer once in a while doesn't hurt. SwiNOG is not a very noisy list IMHO. Kind regards, Viktor On 22.08.2011 13:35, Pascal Gloor wrote: Dear all, As per SwiNOG Organisation board decision, a new mailing list has been opened, swinog-j...@lists.swinog.ch Topics are: - Jobs offering - Jobs seeking - Discussions about the job market At least one company, Oprandi Partner, will be pushing SwiNOG relevant job offers. SwiNOG Relevant = Networking, Programming (WebDev is here too), System Administration and Helpdesk (starting at 2nd level helpdesk). Rules: - swinog@:Jobs topics will no more be tolerated on the main list(no sanctions are planned for trespassers, feel free to self-regulate this by pointing the jobs list to the trespassers :P) - swinog-jobs@:No archive of the list. - swinog-jobs@:Member list is strictly private (to ensure no email harvesting will be done). - swinog-jobs@: No huge postings, offers must be linked (max email size = 40kb) - swinog-jobs@: accepted-languages: en, de, fr, it; prefered-language: en;\n\n If you're interested in the new list (it doesn't matter if you're looking for a jobs or not, you might just be interested to know what's going on), please subscribe here: -- http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog-jobs-- See you, Pascal ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog MGZ Online Networking - Telecomunication - Radio Roger Schmid Delmiro Leao,21A Renato Souza Pinto1 Bairo: Cidade Nova 1 69090-640 Manaus Swiss: +41 32 511 0858 Brazil: +55 92 38774352 Cell: +55 92 81691488 ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] New list for jobs
ro...@mgz.ch wrote: well a list doesn't cost anything. I think as well a software developer doesn't like his inbox filled up with law or ciso tips but maybe is interessted to job offers .. and some Tie addicted managers maybe like to offer jobs without read tech messages ;) i would say its a enrichment to have that list. Lists may be cheap, but that is irrelevant. I second Viktors view - splitting the group too much only splits/destroys the group. Besides, a software developer who does not know how to filter SwiNOG mail into a separate folder, well ... :-) -- Per Jessen, Zürich (31.8°C) ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] New list for jobs
as far as I can recall, there were like 20 job-related messages in the past 12 months. So, what's the point in segregation? Also such a list without archives is quite useless for both parties, employers and employees. From: Pascal Gloor pascal.gl...@spale.com To: swi...@swinog.ch Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 1:35 PM Subject: [swinog] New list for jobs Dear all, As per SwiNOG Organisation board decision, a new mailing list has been opened, swinog-j...@lists.swinog.ch Topics are: - Jobs offering - Jobs seeking - Discussions about the job market At least one company, Oprandi Partner, will be pushing SwiNOG relevant job offers. SwiNOG Relevant = Networking, Programming (WebDev is here too), System Administration and Helpdesk (starting at 2nd level helpdesk). Rules: - swinog@: Jobs topics will no more be tolerated on the main list (no sanctions are planned for trespassers, feel free to self-regulate this by pointing the jobs list to the trespassers :P) - swinog-jobs@: No archive of the list. - swinog-jobs@: Member list is strictly private (to ensure no email harvesting will be done). - swinog-jobs@: No huge postings, offers must be linked (max email size = 40kb) - swinog-jobs@: accepted-languages: en, de, fr, it; prefered-language: en;\n\n If you're interested in the new list (it doesn't matter if you're looking for a jobs or not, you might just be interested to know what's going on), please subscribe here: -- http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog-jobs -- See you, Pascal ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] New list for jobs
To answer some little unhappyness from Viktor, Per and Stanislav, It is to allow more offers to be posted, especially from job-agencies. We have done this because we were asked by an agency to regularly post on the general list and we refused. If it's useless, we'll delete the list, we have done this in the past. And as for the prohibition to post offers here, nobody will ever complain if an ISP posts a job offer for himself but I definitely don't want to see agencies mass-posting here. Cheers, Pascal ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] New list for jobs
well, that's a different story. They simply want a free service instead of paying this: http://www.jobserve.com/Recruiter/JobCreditsSelect.aspx so, you can simply say no :) From: Pascal Gloor pascal.gl...@spale.com To: swi...@swinog.ch Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [swinog] New list for jobs To answer some little unhappyness from Viktor, Per and Stanislav, It is to allow more offers to be posted, especially from job-agencies. We have done this because we were asked by an agency to regularly post on the general list and we refused. If it's useless, we'll delete the list, we have done this in the past. And as for the prohibition to post offers here, nobody will ever complain if an ISP posts a job offer for himself but I definitely don't want to see agencies mass-posting here. Cheers, Pascal ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] New list for jobs
on 22.08.2011 22:52 Pascal Gloor wrote: To answer some little unhappyness from Viktor, Per and Stanislav, It is to allow more offers to be posted, especially from job-agencies. We have done this because we were asked by an agency to regularly post on the general list and we refused. If it's useless, we'll delete the list, we have done this in the past. And as for the prohibition to post offers here, nobody will ever complain if an ISP posts a job offer for himself but I definitely don't want to see agencies mass-posting here. I also do not want to see SPAM mails on the job's list, i.e. offers posted from head-hunters, job-agencies, you-name-them. But maybe I'm the only one ... B est regards, Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 5593407 2 mobile: +49 152 53717690 fax: +49 6224 5593407 9 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
