Re: [swinog] [swinog-antispam] Calling all stations!
Hello everybody! Its been a while since the last activity on this thread, it was holiday season. Im aware that this list is usually for admin purposes, nonetheless I see some importance in this topic nowadays. And we have something interesting to say about it. So Im taking the freedom to post another commercial message on this. I been in the hosting-market for 16 yrs now, mostly as an independent and with pretty good projects. I saw the market go from diversivied into a huge consolidation with a shrinking market volume. Nowadays I am the head of Tecnostore Group (http://www.tecnostore-group.com), a small company with about a dozen nerds in .ch and .in. TSgroup is selling its own SaaS products at http://www.dasprivacy.com, but also provides infrastructure, mostly as whitelabel to companies and some providers. About a week ago we launched this services for the public at http://www.cleartier.com (Our pages arent that gr8, but come on, v r techies not designers) The reason Im writing this is our cleartier architecture: We can run it zone-based in multiple locations. Currently we have three zones: One in Delhi, and two in Switzerland. Inside each zone we can put up small virtual datacenters for our customers (up to 50 hosts, virtual. Physical on Demand). This is very popular mostly with ISVs to run SaaS-Products. As our business is picking up speed, we are looking for partners, and like to present various business cases for people on this list. For Hosting-Providers that are pretty small, and have other main revenue streams (e.g. renting Broadcast Equipment): - Bring down your cost by moving into the ClearZones Virtual Datacenter. - Lower the administration footprint by leaving monitoring management to us. - Keep your brand and your customers by doing only first level billing. - With the Physical to Virtual migration techniques, you can even move your current setups into our virtual datacenter. - If you want to migrate to a newer infrastructure, we can provide you a up-to-date technology hosting setup (Ubuntu 12.04 based). For Line-Access Providers, Datacenter Owners and such: - As a Line-Access provider you can provide added value to your customers by running a ClearZone Inhouse. - We feature a lot of turnkey solutions and setups and we take over the management. - As a datacenter owner, you can provide a ClearZone with your overhead hardware. - We are looking to resell our services and some services of our ISV-Customers through the channels of current ISPs. So long story short: There are a lot of business opportunities also for smaller providers, theres no need to make a frown guys. You can reach us at: - serv...@tecnostore-group.com - 041 312 13 91 (Lukas Meyer, CEO) - 041 312 13 92 (Peter Hethely, System Engineering) We look forward to get in touch with you. Regards L. Meyer Am 02.08.12 13:26, schrieb Xaver Aerni: Hello, My office is two a small ISP. We have less than 50 Hostingclinets. If we would have to live them we would have a problem. I think that we will outsource somme service in the Future like e-Mail... etc. We have beginn with the ISP Services in Year 1996. At this time was the Price for a Hosting Fr. 80.-- or more. Today, you will pay for the same Service by a Serferfarm for Fr. 5.-- till 25.--. In fact. You make less money. And must pay more for the infrastructure. I would also calculate a my work, then the loss would be a lot higher. At the Moment we make the money with renting Broadcast Equipment. The ISP Part will financed whit this buissness. Thats is fact. And I don't think this will be better in the future. Greetings Xaver *Von:* swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] *Im Auftrag von *chris burri *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 2. August 2012 03:49 *An:* swi...@swinog.ch *Betreff:* [swinog] Calling all stations! To whom it may concern: Starting from zero and nowhere plus an old computer, I've spent the last few Months since September 2011 in St. Gallen, building a small but steady ISP operation supporting close to 30 active customers as of right now. At my business' core, a remarkable web of ideas. Entirely founded on a rather ingenious prepaid-everything-everywhere philosophy, aiming for no less than total evasion from last-mile stranglehold and reseller slavery in particular and other, potentially unhealthy dependencies in general while reaching far beyond just telecommunications, into financial services and more. Much of this glorious plan has been condensed down from my brains into a paper, covering 86 pages A4 already. Some people would literally kill to get their hands on those pages, they just don't know yet... But gladly, there's no need to send a hitman! I'll let you read the entire thing if you sign me an NDA or hire me on the spot.
Re: [swinog] [swinog-antispam] Calling all stations!
On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 12:47:09 +0200 Lukas Meyer (TSG Codebase) lu...@codebase.ch wrote: Its been a while since the last activity on this thread, it was holiday season. Im aware that this list is usually for admin purposes, [...] [...] but I think I'm a so awesome guy, that I can ignore the purpose of such a mailinglist and spam it. You can call me chuck norris. Best regards from my drug dealer Luke ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] [swinog-antispam] Calling all stations!
Dear Lukas I guess it's not a coincidence, that you're trying to sell something to this list, just after the call for sponsors for SwiNOG 25 has gone out. It's just that: Next time, please send your sponsoring application to swinog-core, not to the technical discussion lists. Kind regards, Viktor On 23.08.2012 12:47, Lukas Meyer (TSG Codebase) wrote: Hello everybody! Its been a while since the last activity on this thread, it was holiday season. Im aware that this list is usually for admin purposes, nonetheless I see some importance in this topic nowadays. And we have something interesting to say about it. So Im taking the freedom to post another commercial message on this. I been in the hosting-market for 16 yrs now, mostly as an independent and with pretty good projects. I saw the market go from diversivied into a huge consolidation with a shrinking market volume. Nowadays I am the head of Tecnostore Group (http://www.tecnostore-group.com), a small company with about a dozen nerds in .ch and .in. TSgroup is selling its own SaaS products at http://www.dasprivacy.com, but also provides infrastructure, mostly as whitelabel to companies and some providers. About a week ago we launched this services for the public at http://www.cleartier.com (Our pages arent that gr8, but come on, v r techies not designers) The reason Im writing this is our cleartier architecture: We can run it zone-based in multiple locations. Currently we have three zones: One in Delhi, and two in Switzerland. Inside each zone we can put up small virtual datacenters for our customers (up to 50 hosts, virtual. Physical on Demand). This is very popular mostly with ISVs to run SaaS-Products. As our business is picking up speed, we are looking for partners, and like to present various business cases for people on this list. For Hosting-Providers that are pretty small, and have other main revenue streams (e.g. renting Broadcast Equipment): - Bring down your cost by moving into the ClearZones Virtual Datacenter. - Lower the administration footprint by leaving monitoring management to us. - Keep your brand and your customers by doing only first level billing. - With the Physical to Virtual migration techniques, you can even move your current setups into our virtual datacenter. - If you want to migrate to a newer infrastructure, we can provide you a up-to-date technology hosting setup (Ubuntu 12.04 based). For Line-Access Providers, Datacenter Owners and such: - As a Line-Access provider you can provide added value to your customers by running a ClearZone Inhouse. - We feature a lot of turnkey solutions and setups and we take over the management. - As a datacenter owner, you can provide a ClearZone with your overhead hardware. - We are looking to resell our services and some services of our ISV-Customers through the channels of current ISPs. So long story short: There are a lot of business opportunities also for smaller providers, theres no need to make a frown guys. You can reach us at: - serv...@tecnostore-group.com - 041 312 13 91 (Lukas Meyer, CEO) - 041 312 13 92 (Peter Hethely, System Engineering) We look forward to get in touch with you. Regards L. Meyer Am 02.08.12 13:26, schrieb Xaver Aerni: Hello, My office is two a small ISP. We have less than 50 Hostingclinets. If we would have to live them we would have a problem. I think that we will outsource somme service in the Future like e-Mail... etc. We have beginn with the ISP Services in Year 1996. At this time was the Price for a Hosting Fr. 80.-- or more. Today, you will pay for the same Service by a Serferfarm for Fr. 5.-- till 25.--. In fact. You make less money. And must pay more for the infrastructure. I would also calculate a my work, then the loss would be a lot higher. At the Moment we make the money with renting Broadcast Equipment. The ISP Part will financed whit this buissness. Thats is fact. And I don't think this will be better in the future. Greetings Xaver *Von:* swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] *Im Auftrag von *chris burri *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 2. August 2012 03:49 *An:* swi...@swinog.ch *Betreff:* [swinog] Calling all stations! To whom it may concern: Starting from zero and nowhere plus an old computer, I've spent the last few Months since September 2011 in St. Gallen, building a small but steady ISP operation supporting close to 30 active customers as of right now. At my business' core, a remarkable web of ideas. Entirely founded on a rather ingenious prepaid-everything-everywhere philosophy, aiming for no less than total evasion from last-mile stranglehold and reseller slavery in particular and other, potentially unhealthy dependencies in general while reaching far beyond just telecommunications, into financial services
Re: [swinog] [swinog-antispam] Calling all stations!
Dear Viktor, 1. I didnt want to sell something, i rather considered it an offer for collaboration. 2. I only get the digest version of the mailing list, somebody else did forward your msg to me. Usually I dont even have time to read them. 3. I know i fucked up sending the mail (it went to antispam too btw). No need for RBL. The problem seems to sit in front of the machine today ;-) About the sponsoring request: I honestly didnt hv a clue about that one. But we consider swinog a good thing, and i will definitely look into it. So thanks for the information, and please accept my apologies in case anybody feels offended. Regards Lukas ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] BOFh - Richard from the Shadowserver Foundation in Berne
Hi there Richard, one of the directors of the Shadowserver Foundation, will be in Berne for a few days. Since that sounds like a great opportunity to meet Richard and to learn more about Shadowserver (and to have another beer), I am organising a Beer on Friday, hellyes (BOFh) in the evening of Friday the 31st of August in Berne If you are interested in joining the fun, please drop me a note. I will then try to find a place with enough space and let you know when and where you can find us. If you are quick I also still take suggestions on where you think we should head to. I know this is on short notice, but if there is enough interest, we could do some session(s) during Friday and then together head to the BOFh. For that we would need a room somewhere in the center of Berne. Richard could give a presentation introducing Shadowserver and we could then go from there with what they do, what you have that they need and what they offer in return. Just an idea... Looking forward to your feedback and comments. Cheers, Adrian ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
