Re: [swinog] IPv4 already exhausted at IANA ?

2010-12-03 Diskussionsfäden Guillaume Leclanche
2010/12/3 Manfredo Miserocchi m...@wari.net:

Hi Manfredo,

 But we're working on Ipv6 from 10 years, previewing this moment. If operators 
 are not ready yet, this is not because
 nobody had care of it. In other words, I'm not seeing anything strange in the 
 fact that IPv4 are in effect finished. If
 NRO decided to distribute last /8s in such way, or in another, doesn't 
 matter. The fact is that the D-day is near us and
 we cannot continue to surprise ourselves every time if this happens.

I agree with you, it's not a surprise. I wanted to send a
well-argumented reminder for those who still think that the counter is
just a counter.

Given the audience of the list in Switzerland and outside, it's always
good to tickle people who missed the event, especially when they're
planning their budget for the year to come.

Normally Freddy or Jeroen would do that but for once they were maybe
exhausted ;)

Guillaume


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[swinog] IPv4 already exhausted at IANA ?

2010-12-02 Diskussionsfäden Guillaume Leclanche
Hello,

I noticed on this list no special reaction to the fact that IANA has
only 7*/8 left after the allocations on Nov. 30th. So I thought I'd
start a thread to share my thoughts on the fact that IPv4 is in
reality _already_ exhausted at IANA.

If you read IANA policies, you know that among the 7 /8 (some here
will know a /8 as class A even though it's incorrect), 5 are
reserved (1 per RIR) and will be allocated when they are the only ones
left. That leaves IANA with only 2 /8. But APNIC is _already_
entitled to get these addresses, as per IANA policy (they don't have
enough left to hold 9 months at their average alloc rate). And when
they will in reality request these addresses, it will trigger the
allocation of the last 5, and, well, the end.

The request from APNIC could come tomorrow, or next week, or in 3/4
months. They can do it whenever they want. It doesn't matter, the way
the movie ends is already known : APNIC will get 3 more /8, our
beloved RIPE will get 1 more, as well as ARIN, LACNIC, and AFRINIC.

If you have another understanding of the situation, please share, I
didn't find a lot of real analysis on the current situation, mainly
refs to potaroo, so I'd be happy to discuss.

Now if you have not thought yet about how your network will reach the
networks that will be IPv6-only starting middle of next year, well ...
I'm sure a lot of people on the list are ready to help :)

Guillaume


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