[swinog] looking for a 7200VXR300/400
Hi SwiNOG'ers I'm looking for a 7200-VXR300 or 400 for a good price indeed :-) No need to send me URLs of ebay, I know where it is :-P I write here to ask you if you have such a router, not to ask about URLs :-) Pascal smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [swinog] looking for a 7200VXR300/400
Pascal Gloor wrote: I'm looking for a 7200-VXR300 or 400 for a good price indeed :-) No need to send me URLs of ebay, I know where it is :-P I write here to ask you if you have such a router, not to ask about URLs :-) what is a good price ... ;-) F. ___ swinog mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.init7.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] looking for a 7200VXR300/400
Since Swisscom is replacing all Ciscos in the BBCS backbone with Junipers, maybe they'll have to sell some used Ciscos soon? Does anybody know, what they are doing with the old stuff? Just because it's too weak/small/old for Swisscom, doesn't mean it's crap... On Donnerstag 18 November 2004 11.45, Pascal Gloor wrote: Hi SwiNOG'ers I'm looking for a 7200-VXR300 or 400 for a good price indeed :-) No need to send me URLs of ebay, I know where it is :-P I write here to ask you if you have such a router, not to ask about URLs :-) Pascal ___ swinog mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.init7.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] looking for a 7200VXR300/400
Title: RE: [swinog] looking for a 7200VXR300/400 Since Swisscom is replacing all Ciscos in the BBCS backbone with Junipers, maybe they'll have to sell some used Ciscos soon? Does anybody know, what they are doing with the old stuff? Just because it's too weak/small/old for Swisscom, doesn't mean it's crap... They replace the Cisco 6400 LAC's with (now Juniper) ERX... Unfortunatly, nobody else at the moment besides Swisscom can really use this stuff... besides that, the 6400's are quite crappy ;-) Cheers Christian
Re: [swinog] looking for a 7200VXR300/400
Pascal Gloor wrote: what is a good price ... ;-) A good price is when you are happy to sell and I am happy to buy... :) These boxes still go for CHF 6000 + (with NPE-300) according to Ebay, and I expect you're not willing to pay that much. And since there is no bankrupcy in sight of a large player, I don't think there will be soon a nice network to be devided ;-) F. ___ swinog mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.init7.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] ITU wants to clog routers
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/53394 The ITU would like to delegate IPv6-addressblocks to states, most probably resulting in huge routing-tables. Here's the document, take a look at section 4.2b http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/tsb-director/itut-wsis/files/zhao-netgov01.pdf Here's what the NRO thinks about it: http://www.nro.net/documents/pdf/nro17.pdf Seegras -- Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin ___ swinog mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.init7.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] ITU wants to clog routers
Interesting It's clear, that the NRO doesn't like the idea... but it would definitely solve many problems, if IP space was assigned per country... (yes, I know, that the RIRs would still exist, but let's assume, that ALL IP-Space would only be assigned by countries) - Webshops who may not sell to certain countries could simply block some ranges - You could block mail with IPs from nigeria in them to never again receive mails from people who want to give you millions of $$$ - Route aggregation would be easy On the other hand there are also some negatives: - Countries like China could easily filter out traffic from US sites or any other country they don't like - International provides would have to get netblocks in each country they operate in, not only one large block at a cenral location But since IPv6 is never going into large-scale production, this discussion is maculature anyway :-) Cheers, Viktor On Donnerstag 18 November 2004 15.20, Peter Keel wrote: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/53394 The ITU would like to delegate IPv6-addressblocks to states, most probably resulting in huge routing-tables. Here's the document, take a look at section 4.2b http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/tsb-director/itut-wsis/files/zhao-netgov01.pdf Here's what the NRO thinks about it: http://www.nro.net/documents/pdf/nro17.pdf Seegras ___ swinog mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.init7.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
AW: [swinog] ITU wants to clog routers
Hi Christian, But IPv6 is done in China, ther are Starting now with IPv9 Mit freundlichen Grüssen Marcel Stutz Netzwerk Unix Administrator -- | Genotec Internet Consulting AG | E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hegenheimermattweg 119a | Website : http://www.genotec.ch CH - 4123 Allschwil | Schweiz | | Zentrale: +41 61 487 99 99 --- | Fax : +41 61 487 99 98 | Support : 0848 321 123 easy[hosting] | 500 MB, unl.Pointings, | Subdomains und E-mails,| Supportanfragen bitte immer an Internetzugang und mehr| [EMAIL PROTECTED] SFr. 150/Jahr | Web: http://support.genotec.ch | -- -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Kuster, Christian Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. November 2004 16:00 An: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Betreff: RE: [swinog] ITU wants to clog routers But since IPv6 is never going into large-scale production, this discussion is maculature anyway :-) Hmm, all new Backbones in China run IPv6 due to the lack of IPv4 addresses ... So it IS already in production Christian ___ swinog mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.init7.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] ITU wants to clog routers
Viktor Steinmann wrote: It's clear, that the NRO doesn't like the idea... but it would definitely solve many problems, if IP space was assigned per country... (yes, I know, that the RIRs would still exist, but let's assume, that ALL IP-Space would only be assigned by countries) - Webshops who may not sell to certain countries could simply block some ranges Is this desirable? Remember the Internet routes around damage? I'd rather phrase it as it would 'solve' many 'problems'... :) -John ___ swinog mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.init7.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
