[SyncEvolution] Re: moving SyncEvolution infrastructure
> In fact, this would be a perfect opportunity for someone with spare time > to help out. Any volunteers? Hello Patrick, I do have some time to help you. Please let me know, what should be done. Best regards. Robert. ___ SyncEvolution mailing list -- syncevolution@syncevolution.org To unsubscribe send an email to syncevolution-le...@syncevolution.org %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s
[SyncEvolution] Re: moving SyncEvolution infrastructure
Milan Crha writes: > On Thu, 2022-03-31 at 13:12 +0200, Patrick Ohly wrote: >> I'm not sure. We can try. I created >> https://groups.google.com/g/syncevolution and sent you an invitation >> to your Red Hat email address. Can you join? > > Hi, > first of all, the invitation was in German, kinda challenging for me > ;) Good feedback! I wasn't asked in which language it should send out the invitation ;-} > After clicking the only blue button there, "Diese Einladung annehmen", > it opened a page, which says "404 Not Found" when I'm not logged to the > Google site. When I am logged to the Google site, I'm told that I just > subscribed to the group. From that I suppose a Google account is needed > to subscribe to the Google group. IMHO that makes freedesktop.org the first choice for the mailing list. I don't want to force people to have a Google account. -- Best Regards Patrick Ohly ___ SyncEvolution mailing list -- syncevolution@syncevolution.org To unsubscribe send an email to syncevolution-le...@syncevolution.org %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s
[SyncEvolution] Re: moving SyncEvolution infrastructure
On Thu, 2022-03-31 at 13:12 +0200, Patrick Ohly wrote: > I'm not sure. We can try. I created > https://groups.google.com/g/syncevolution and sent you an invitation > to your Red Hat email address. Can you join? Hi, first of all, the invitation was in German, kinda challenging for me ;) After clicking the only blue button there, "Diese Einladung annehmen", it opened a page, which says "404 Not Found" when I'm not logged to the Google site. When I am logged to the Google site, I'm told that I just subscribed to the group. From that I suppose a Google account is needed to subscribe to the Google group. Bye, Milan ___ SyncEvolution mailing list -- syncevolution@syncevolution.org To unsubscribe send an email to syncevolution-le...@syncevolution.org %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s
[SyncEvolution] Re: moving SyncEvolution infrastructure
Milan Crha writes: > On Thu, 2022-03-31 at 09:36 +0200, Patrick Ohly wrote: >> Moving it elsewhere is an opportunity to clean this up. I would >> try to keep links valid as much as possible or at least have >> redirects. However, I only intend to copy page content, not comments. >> My plan is to export the original content (usually plain text with >> some Markdown and HTML), clean it up and then run a static page >> generator to recreate the HTML site. > > Hi, > even I do not see it on the gitlab.freedesktop.org instance when not > logged in, the GitLab itself supports Wiki pages, like the GNOME's > instance have it here: > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-data-server/-/wikis/home > (there's no wiki page set in this project). A wiki would be a bit different. > The GitLab seems to have a way to provide static pages as well: > https://gitlab.gnome.org/help/user/project/pages/index > https://gitlab.com/pages Good point, I hadn't considered that options. I tried it out and it is enabled on freedesktop.org: https://pohly.pages.freedesktop.org/syncevolution/ > I do not have any opinion on the mailing list part. If a Google group > accepts non-Google addresses then it's probably fine. Otherwise I'd go > with a service not that restricting myself. I'm not sure. We can try. I created https://groups.google.com/g/syncevolution and sent you an invitation to your Red Hat email address. Can you join? -- Best Regards Patrick Ohly ___ SyncEvolution mailing list -- syncevolution@syncevolution.org To unsubscribe send an email to syncevolution-le...@syncevolution.org %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s
[SyncEvolution] Re: moving SyncEvolution infrastructure
On Thu, 2022-03-31 at 09:36 +0200, Patrick Ohly wrote: > Moving it elsewhere is an opportunity to clean this up. I would > try to keep links valid as much as possible or at least have > redirects. However, I only intend to copy page content, not comments. > My plan is to export the original content (usually plain text with > some Markdown and HTML), clean it up and then run a static page > generator to recreate the HTML site. Hi, even I do not see it on the gitlab.freedesktop.org instance when not logged in, the GitLab itself supports Wiki pages, like the GNOME's instance have it here: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-data-server/-/wikis/home (there's no wiki page set in this project). The GitLab seems to have a way to provide static pages as well: https://gitlab.gnome.org/help/user/project/pages/index https://gitlab.com/pages And when you've .md files in the repo, they can be viewed as HTML too, all done by the GitLab. As an example, see how it catches README.md at the bottom of the: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/ I know it's not the same as full static pages/markdown files. I mean, you can have everything served by the GitLab, including releases: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/releases at least if the relevant parts are enabled by the respective GitLab instance. The GNOME's instance allows user projects as well, or filled under https://gitlab.gnome.org/World . Check the linked rules there, for a project inclusion. I do not have any opinion on the mailing list part. If a Google group accepts non-Google addresses then it's probably fine. Otherwise I'd go with a service not that restricting myself. Bye, Milan ___ SyncEvolution mailing list -- syncevolution@syncevolution.org To unsubscribe send an email to syncevolution-le...@syncevolution.org %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s
[SyncEvolution] moving SyncEvolution infrastructure
Hello! Intel has graciously supported SyncEvolution for a long time, even after it became a spare time project again. But now I really should consider how to continue with the project without relying on infrastructure provided by Intel. This includes: - syncevolution.org domain - web hosting (syncevolution.org, downloads.syncevolution.org) - mailing list (syncevolution@syncevolution.org) - mailing list archive (https://lists.syncevolution.org/hyperkitty/list/syncevolution@syncevolution.org) - build server Outside of Intel we already have: - git repo + issue tracker (https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/SyncEvolution) For the mailing list, https://lists.freedesktop.org may be a viable alternative. I have a full copy of old emails that could be imported. This may be more relevant for hosting a public archive of those emails than it is for actual, on-going discussions, though ;-) Will users on this list re-subscribe on another mailing list or should I to try to add current subscribers automatically? Would a Google Groups be better? It looks like I can do most of the setup there myself instead of having to rely on freedesktop.org admins, including sending out invitations to current subscribers. The current content on https://syncevolution.org has aged badly. Not only is some of it stale, rendering also suffered from multiple Drupal updates. Moving it elsewhere is an opportunity to clean this up. I would try to keep links valid as much as possible or at least have redirects. However, I only intend to copy page content, not comments. My plan is to export the original content (usually plain text with some Markdown and HTML), clean it up and then run a static page generator to recreate the HTML site. I have some experience with Sphinx, but not a whole lot. In fact, this would be a perfect opportunity for someone with spare time to help out. Any volunteers? The source code for the web site could be in a new "web" repo. I don't think freedesktop.org supports hosting of static pages, so perhaps GitHub would be a better place for such a "web" repo? Then the rendering can be done by a GitHub action and the result be exposed as a GitHub page. This is a pragmatic compromise between free software purism (GitHub is only a free service, but not free software!) and ease of use. It could also be that it encourages drive-by contributions because the barrier for contributions would be lower, although that doesn't seem that likely. The downloads.syncevolution.org content is something that I would maintain and host myself somewhere. I would also run the builds on my own machine. I'm leaning towards moving the domain to CloudFlare and then configure syncevolution.org so that it becomes a frontend for the web pages and downloads. -- Best Regards Patrick Ohly ___ SyncEvolution mailing list -- syncevolution@syncevolution.org To unsubscribe send an email to syncevolution-le...@syncevolution.org %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s
