RE: t-and-f: speaking of AOYs......
As much as I would like to see a pure roadie -- none of this moonlighting on the track or cross-country ! - be AOY, Khannouchi's non-marathon racing this year detracts from his 2 stellar marathons. Good wins at San Blas and Kyoto Half-Marathons, but a horrendous 60th place at Sapporo and a 4th place at Philly is not the kind of performance you expect from an AOY. Throw in a 3rd at Falmouth, a 4th at an Italian 10-K and a 13th at another 10-K in Puerto Rico, and that's just four wins in 10 races. If anyone beats out Sanchez it ought to be the yet another undefeated year, yet another leading the world lists at 1500m/mile, yet another Golden League jackpotter, etc. El Guerrouj. -Original Message- From: ghill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:51 AM To: track list Subject: t-and-f: speaking of AOYs.. I think a decent case for men's Athlete Of The Year can now be made for Khannouchi, although I continue to lean towards Sánchez myself. gh
Re: t-and-f: speaking of AOYs......
Did he actually key on any of those races? It's the nature of the marathon beast. I'm not saying that he deserves it. Just saying that I don't think all of his performances can be evaluated the way they are in other events. Regards, Martin Post, Marty wrote: As much as I would like to see a pure roadie -- none of this moonlighting on the track or cross-country ! - be AOY, Khannouchi's non-marathon racing this year detracts from his 2 stellar marathons. Good wins at San Blas and Kyoto Half-Marathons, but a horrendous 60th place at Sapporo and a 4th place at Philly is not the kind of performance you expect from an AOY. Throw in a 3rd at Falmouth, a 4th at an Italian 10-K and a 13th at another 10-K in Puerto Rico, and that's just four wins in 10 races. If anyone beats out Sanchez it ought to be the yet another undefeated year, yet another leading the world lists at 1500m/mile, yet another Golden League jackpotter, etc. El Guerrouj. -Original Message- From: ghill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:51 AM To: track list Subject: t-and-f: speaking of AOYs.. I think a decent case for men's Athlete Of The Year can now be made for Khannouchi, although I continue to lean towards Sánchez myself. gh
Re: t-and-f: speaking of AOYs......
From: Post, Marty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 16:19:20 -0400 To: 'ghill' [EMAIL PROTECTED], track list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: speaking of AOYs.. As much as I would like to see a pure roadie -- none of this moonlighting on the track or cross-country ! - be AOY, Khannouchi's non-marathon racing this year detracts from his 2 stellar marathons. In a TFN sense, KK gets lucky. In voting for AOY we don't consider any non-track performances other than in the marathon, so KK will have a perfect slate. (if we were RUNNING News we'd consider it, but please remember we're TRACK FIELD News--we're concerned with the elite Olympic sport, not all those tangential things that runners might choose to do in their spare time) If anyone beats out Sanchez it ought to be the yet another undefeated year, yet another leading the world lists at 1500m/mile, yet another Golden League jackpotter, etc. El Guerrouj. As always, I have trouble getting excited over another undefeated El G season based on a series of set up races. Let's talk about '96 and '00, where he didn't get a perfect place on the grid and didn't have preordained rabbits going out at a pace he requested. Oh yeah, he lost the biggest race in both of those years, didn't he? gh
Re: t-and-f: speaking of AOYs......
ghill wrote: As always, I have trouble getting excited over another undefeated El G season based on a series of set up races. Let's talk about '96 and '00, where he didn't get a perfect place on the grid and didn't have preordained rabbits going out at a pace he requested. Oh yeah, he lost the biggest race in both of those years, didn't he? Well said, but still sad, given the talent of El G and Bernard Lagat. After the Seneca Lassiter debacle, I think we're all getting fed up with rabbited races, week after week after week, where the only thing that matters is another record. bob
