Re: [Tagging] Sports_centre, gym, dojo

2011-04-10 Thread Alan Mintz

At 2011-04-09 20:41, Brad Neuhauser wrote:
PS--To me, fitness centre would eliminate any possible confusion with 
other usages of gym or gymnasium, but if gym has already been in wide 
usage, it'll do.


+1 Not that I spend any time there myself :-|, but people that do almost 
universally call them gym(s).


PPS--In the US, gymnasium is definitely not limited to places where 
people do gymnastics, as mike said it's a large indoor room for a variety 
of sports--like basketball and volleyball--and also sometimes events like 
assemblies or dances.


... at a school. The long form of the word would normally cause one to 
think about such a multi-purpose building at a high school or elementary 
school. Colleges and universities generally have separate facilities for 
some of those things and name them more specifically. I never hear someone 
refer to one of the commercial fitness centers as a gymnasium.


I noticed a note on the bottom of the page that a bot changed ~1500 gyms 
to sport=gymnastics!?


If so, that was almost certainly wrong if people have been using the term 
as per US common usage.


--
Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net


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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking (redux)

2011-04-10 Thread Flaimo
since there haven't been any new comments over the last couple of days
i would like to start the voting for the proposal next weekend. here's
the link again in case you haven't read it yet:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/parking

regards,
flaimo

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking (redux)

2011-04-10 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/4/10 Flaimo fla...@gmail.com:
 since there haven't been any new comments over the last couple of days
 i would like to start the voting for the proposal next weekend. here's
 the link again in case you haven't read it yet:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/parking


I am not sure if it is a good idea to put all these new tags into the
amenity namespace. Amenities are general features (e.g. mapnik tries
to render all of them) and the proposed tags like parking_space would
in a complete mapping state clutter the map.

If I get this right you suggest to consider amenity=parking as
preliminary and to replace it with amenity=parking_space for single
parking lots or groups of them, connected with relations?

I think this is too complicated for most cases. I suggest to continue
the use of an area with amenity=parking for outline of the whole
facility and optionally parking=parking_space for single or groups of
actual parking spaces (plus optionally all subtags for all kind of
details as suggested).

from your proposal:

* Parking spaces always have to be grouped together in a relation.
In rare situations where there’s really only one single parking space
that is not somehow connected to any other spaces nearby,
amenity=parking should be applied.
* A parking space should preferably be mapped as an area, but it
is also possible to use a node.
* Each single space should be mapped as a separate area.
Exceptions for using one area to represent more than one space:
  o A lot of similar parking spaces side by side without any
differing attributes and you don't want to put that much afford into
it.
  o Spaces are just too small to map (for example for bicycle parking)
  o Satellite images aren't good enough and don’t allow the
mapping of single parking spaces, but you can still make out separate
groups of spaces.
* It should not be used as a representation of one big single
parking area. Highways should not cross this areas.


maybe it would be easier to split this up in 2 proposals: one for
parking_spaces and one for complex parking relations.

cheers
Martin

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