Re: Taglibs, log tags for log4j

[Ceki Gülcü]

Hi James,

At 14:50 13.07.2001 +0100, James Strachan wrote:
Hi Ceki

 From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

 FYI, Jochen Hiller has written logs tags based on log4j. The code seems
 pretty complete but I am not necessarily a good judge. I have also
 noticed his code resides under the org.apache.log4j.taglib namespace
 which hints that the code may be distributed along with standard log4j
 distribution, i.e. log4j.jar.

 As far as I know, there are now 3 logging taglibs based on
 log4j.


Actually the log taglib in jakarta-taglibs started life as Joseph Ottinger's
logging taglib - which may be one of the 3 you are thinking of.
Joe donated his taglib to the taglibs project some time back.

If I understand correctly, http://www.adjacency.org/logtags.jsp is 
no longer pertinent...

 Considering competition is good then there is nothing wrong
 with this state of affairs. However, this also means that there is
 wasted development effort.

Agreed.

If Jochen merges his work with the log taglib in jakarata taglibs (which
seems likely) then we'll have only one.


 How about closer coopreation between the taglibs project and
 and the log4j project? Do you think we could work together to
 incorporate jakarta-taglib's log tag in log4j? I welcome your
 suggestions and comments.


I think the jakarta-taglib project is a better place for the log taglib
since it is a taglib. e.g. it can share work on common build formats,
generation of HTML documentation and JSP 1.1, 1.2 TLDs and so on.

Whatever you deem most appropriate is fine with me. IMHO, 
pre-packaging log taglib in log4j will give the former a serious 
boost. This may seem like a silly marketing detail but it can make 
a real difference for the log taglib. Regards, Ceki


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Fwd: Taglibs, log tags for log4j

[Ceki Gülcü]

FYI, Jochen Hiller has written logs tags based on log4j. The code seems
pretty complete but I am not necessarily a good judge. I have also
noticed his code resides under the org.apache.log4j.taglib namespace
which hints that the code may be distributed along with standard log4j
distribution, i.e. log4j.jar.

As far as I know, there are now 3 logging taglibs based on
log4j. Considering competition is good then there is nothing wrong
with this state of affairs. However, this also means that there is
wasted development effort.

How about closer coopreation between the taglibs project and
and the log4j project? Do you think we could work together to
incorporate jakarta-taglib's log tag in log4j? I welcome your
suggestions and comments.

Jochen, I strongly encourage you work with the taglibs group in order
to incorporate your ideas into taglibs/log.

By the way, I have noticed the assert tag. Since assert is a
language-reserved word in JDK 1.4, lacking a better solution, log4j
will simply drop support for the Category.assert method. This is
already the case in the code contained in the log4j CVS rep. I
apologize for the inconvenience.

Regards, Ceki

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Hi Joseph, hi James,

I recognized this week, that you did the first implementation of a jsp tag
library for usage of log4j.

We did the same in our company, using additional tags, to make it possible,
to log in JSP's. I want to send to my code, which I like to make also
OpenSource. Would you have a look inside ? I wrote a short documentation
about the contents of the distribution, and the difference to yours.

I am just using a package scope of org.apache.log4j.taglib, but I would be
happy to change it to org.apache.taglibs.log. Any, also critical comments
always welcome.

I am a regular user of log4j, I think it is the most complete and flexible
solution at the moment. Ceki, for your information.

I am looking forward, Jochen

PS: I will be online again beginning of next week.

Jochen Hiller
Head of Research
Bauer  Partner AG
Esslenstr. 3
CH-8280 Kreuzlingen
Phone +41 71 67718 00
Mobile +49 171 3396054
Fax +41 71 67718 44
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