[talk-ph] [IMAGERY] Samar Landsat 8, 2013-11-14
Hi, A post-disaster Landsat 8 image taken on 2013-11-14 over Samar, Daanbantayan, northern parts of Cebu and Leyte is online. Resolution is 15 m. It is fairly cloudy, but some parts of the coasts and smaller islands are visible. It is available as a WMS service. Use the following URL to add it as a layer into JOSM: http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/cgi-bin/mapserv?map=/etc/mapserver/wms.map Use source=Landsat 8, NASA, USGS, 2013-11-14 Best wishes, Jean-Guilhem ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Yolanda Mapathon at UP Geography Dept.
What happened to the mapping party Maning? Hope it went well. Im here in Tacloban since Monday for coverage. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:07 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, We are planning a short mapathon to train a few people of the UPD Geography Department to edit OSM. Initial plan will be on Friday Nov 15, 6:00 PM. If anyone is near UP Diliman, please join. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- Rem Zamora Photojournalist +63-917-592-74-33 -link to my photos-http://www.googleplussuomi.com/photobox/?googleid=110367850779921090576 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Typhoon Haiyan Mapping Progress
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Totor, The best thing to do with these kind of issues is after the people have stopped working in the area, just have 1 single person download the whole area and look through it. Even for a very large city like Tacloban, you can look over the whole thing in a couple of hours (assuming everything is done). Filling in the missing bits and double checking the tagging is a very useful thing to do. For anyone interested in seeing how to do this I can show you via skype screenshare, contact me at andrewbuck40 on skype if you are interested. The short version of how to do this, is use either the mirrored download plugin for josm to download the area or for smaller towns just a normal api download or two will be enough. Then enable the typhoon josm paint style available on the wiki so you can see the building damage tags. - -AndrwBuck On 11/15/2013 09:27 PM, Totor wrote: Hi, On the hotosm tasks I participated in (342 and 347 mainly), I noticed many tiles marked as finished and even validated, when several buildings and sometimes whole areas have not been traced yet. What could be done to avoid this ? * I think a clearer Unlock it!. button might help for those who want to stop and only see the Mark Task as Done button. * For new tasks, the introduction and workflow could maybe add a note to only click Done if you are 100% sure ALL has been traced. * It seems impossible to invalidate a tile that is already validated. Another solution could be to restart a new task for the same area once the initial one is validated to check for missed parts. Task 360 kind of does this, but mixes adding lacking buildings and evaluating damage. This seems logical, but the result is that some mark a task as done just after adding the buildings, and some omly after assessing the damage (without adding new buildings). I'm not complaining ! It is really great to see so many persons involved, and I'm sure it is very helpful. The problems mentionned above are really small compared to the benefits. Happy mapping, and thanks to all. Totor -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSh4cgAAoJEK7RwIfxHSXb9hEQAIKwkAH719lRsycfytVUiNwS 4nEe6ICqYTOdliw+MBpUf0w0rkQzAjJWhKRQKSJQQoGnIbJhE1F6pmfiTcqylxNy UZKKdJ4t3sIpNWKsF8u+JbXDm0fqH6jGvAScQLJsyKnQOKgNlr2IMwuhtCEeHav5 MV7d4C6gjCFjV+q2SGVyI/dGCnZ5/fiLyX9Dt106LnZPvs+sGdZwWXruB/4CrMCA e8zS4ZSpa1ERCyUH8s2Vqci5Vngd161zcKJzYWEJrR7G6YCM/FVfR8wT0ZsOYXs/ 4z04qAcuFYTGC1VGuUCGuHUIwQ9PUVJaFAPCWdUS9rKdqTe/i8mxnbYhFN+p2nqh 0AXtaAGB1f/Xa8EZedPp9rY82oJaFFoRVmGk/AmwdrbmLfuoIESVh0ABYJN3W/Uf RmAS6+BhO2/ADjBzXIOOk0MXxUu5qLD+6Xf2awpK9hkrgrdk5QK7NGBR0Io506On +Oqq3M60eQNN7CUxhUV4ETkLt6HYBxvb40nM/j2vtxl4MEni8Lx9IG4EYm7Ll5n3 pObNjM5qn2JuB+uslTvMTC0Jmyqy7f0fhjGTMRX8YiuJ4VgUreiIBQhdg3hFNwzr 298UVsKjDioO6GlqGjN0ng18RImunrOhJsIcFG607iUO3iwRDQ0YtsyC4atkgScL TWJ6kRDBj+m5Q3rRWvaK =yiLw -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] Typhoon Haiyan Mapping Progress
I concur. I myself did not notice the unlock the first time I used the Tasker. I thought it was a touch-move thing in chess. Ervin Malicdem Sent using Sony Xperia Z for Schadow1 Expeditions - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own motherland. http://www.s1expeditions.com On Nov 16, 2013 11:29 PM, Dan Marsh danrok.g...@gmail.com wrote: If the Unlock it! link was changed to a blue button, it could help a bit. I get the impression, in some cases, that people are missing this. On 16 November 2013 14:54, Andrew Buck andrew.r.b...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Totor, The best thing to do with these kind of issues is after the people have stopped working in the area, just have 1 single person download the whole area and look through it. Even for a very large city like Tacloban, you can look over the whole thing in a couple of hours (assuming everything is done). Filling in the missing bits and double checking the tagging is a very useful thing to do. For anyone interested in seeing how to do this I can show you via skype screenshare, contact me at andrewbuck40 on skype if you are interested. The short version of how to do this, is use either the mirrored download plugin for josm to download the area or for smaller towns just a normal api download or two will be enough. Then enable the typhoon josm paint style available on the wiki so you can see the building damage tags. - -AndrwBuck On 11/15/2013 09:27 PM, Totor wrote: Hi, On the hotosm tasks I participated in (342 and 347 mainly), I noticed many tiles marked as finished and even validated, when several buildings and sometimes whole areas have not been traced yet. What could be done to avoid this ? * I think a clearer Unlock it!. button might help for those who want to stop and only see the Mark Task as Done button. * For new tasks, the introduction and workflow could maybe add a note to only click Done if you are 100% sure ALL has been traced. * It seems impossible to invalidate a tile that is already validated. Another solution could be to restart a new task for the same area once the initial one is validated to check for missed parts. Task 360 kind of does this, but mixes adding lacking buildings and evaluating damage. This seems logical, but the result is that some mark a task as done just after adding the buildings, and some omly after assessing the damage (without adding new buildings). I'm not complaining ! It is really great to see so many persons involved, and I'm sure it is very helpful. The problems mentionned above are really small compared to the benefits. Happy mapping, and thanks to all. Totor -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSh4cgAAoJEK7RwIfxHSXb9hEQAIKwkAH719lRsycfytVUiNwS 4nEe6ICqYTOdliw+MBpUf0w0rkQzAjJWhKRQKSJQQoGnIbJhE1F6pmfiTcqylxNy UZKKdJ4t3sIpNWKsF8u+JbXDm0fqH6jGvAScQLJsyKnQOKgNlr2IMwuhtCEeHav5 MV7d4C6gjCFjV+q2SGVyI/dGCnZ5/fiLyX9Dt106LnZPvs+sGdZwWXruB/4CrMCA e8zS4ZSpa1ERCyUH8s2Vqci5Vngd161zcKJzYWEJrR7G6YCM/FVfR8wT0ZsOYXs/ 4z04qAcuFYTGC1VGuUCGuHUIwQ9PUVJaFAPCWdUS9rKdqTe/i8mxnbYhFN+p2nqh 0AXtaAGB1f/Xa8EZedPp9rY82oJaFFoRVmGk/AmwdrbmLfuoIESVh0ABYJN3W/Uf RmAS6+BhO2/ADjBzXIOOk0MXxUu5qLD+6Xf2awpK9hkrgrdk5QK7NGBR0Io506On +Oqq3M60eQNN7CUxhUV4ETkLt6HYBxvb40nM/j2vtxl4MEni8Lx9IG4EYm7Ll5n3 pObNjM5qn2JuB+uslTvMTC0Jmyqy7f0fhjGTMRX8YiuJ4VgUreiIBQhdg3hFNwzr 298UVsKjDioO6GlqGjN0ng18RImunrOhJsIcFG607iUO3iwRDQ0YtsyC4atkgScL TWJ6kRDBj+m5Q3rRWvaK =yiLw -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ HOT mailing list h...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- Dan Marsh http://www.dm-photographics.com ___ HOT mailing list h...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] 2013 OSMPH data stats so far
Hello everyone, There's been a significant amount of mapping in the country since the start of October and I would like to present the basic OSMPH data stats as of November 14. The % increase is in comparison to the start of 2013: OSM XML file size: 1324 MB (63% increase) No. of Nodes: 6,721,528 (62% increase) No. of Ways: 768,989 (85% increase) No. of Relations: 3,974 (39% increase) Total length of highways: 151,805 Km (19% increase) And here is the updated data growth graph showing a huge uptick in growth: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:OSMPH_data_growth_graph.png Thank you to everyone, most especially to the 1000+ contributors who have responded to the call to map the areas affected by Typhoon Haiyan and have uploaded more than 2.3 million object changes: http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-typhoon-haiyan-2013-contributors On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: Hi guys, Here's a 3rd-quarter update of the basic OSMPH data stats (as of the September 30, 2013 Philippine extract). The % increase is in comparison to the start of 2013: OSM XML file size: 966 MB (19.1% increase) # Nodes: 4,970,120 (20.0% increase) # Ways: 483,768 (16.1% increase) # Relations: 3,442 (20.6% increase) Total length of highways: 143,024 Km (12.2% increase) And here is the updated data growth graph: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:OSMPH_data_growth_graph.png Keep on mapping! Eugene On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: Hi guys, Here's a mid-year update of the basic OSMPH data stats (as of the June 30, 2013 Philippine extract). The % increase is in comparison to the start of 2013: OSM XML file size: 891 MB (9.9% increase) # Nodes: 4,574,470 (10.4% increase) # Ways: 451,745 (8.4% increase) # Relations: 3,311 (16.0% increase) Total length of highways: 139,545 Km (9.5% increase) And here is the updated data growth graph: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:OSMPH_data_growth_graph.png Keep on mapping! Eugene On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 6:00 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: Hi guys, Here's a 1st quarter update of the basic OSMPH data stats (as of the April 1, 2013 Philippine extract). The % increase is in comparison to the start of 2013: OSM XML file size: 857 MB(5.7% increase) # Nodes: 4,400,022(6.2% increase) # Ways: 436,511(4.8% increase) # Relations: 2,921(2.3% increase) Total length of highways: 133,692 Km (4.9% increase) Keep it up guys! On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: Hi guys, Here's a new year update of the basic OSMPH data stats (as of the January 1, 2013 Philippine extract). The % increase is in comparison to the start of 2012: OSM XML file size: 811 MB(47% increase) # Nodes: 4,143,313(49% increase) # Ways: 416,626(47% increase) # Relations: 2,855(61% increase) Total length of highways: 127,489 Km (47% increase) And the following is a comparison of the increase in amount of data within 2011, and the increase within 2012: 2011 2012 OSM XML file size:+226 MB +261 MB # Nodes: +1,251,032+1,363,521 # Ways:+156,718 +132,364 # Relations: +1,131 +1,079 Total length of highways: +26,825 Km +40,695 Km Keep it up guys! ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Fwd: [HOT] DigitalGlobe public imagery available now
FYI, Post-typhoon imagery ready for tracing. Coverage availbale in anew TM server: http://54.204.112.160/ Photo in FB: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151999838842597set=a.10151999838717597.1073741830.345455082596type=1theater -- Forwarded message -- From: Andrew Buck andrew.r.b...@gmail.com Date: Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [HOT] DigitalGlobe public imagery available now To: h...@openstreetmap.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wow, this is an amazing contribution to our effort here. This area covers many areas in which we had no prvious high resolution imagery, and it also offers post disaster imagery for many places which we have already mapped allowing us to update our map to reflect the new situation in the area. I have already created a tasking manager job for the areas where we did not have any imagery before. Filling in these blank spots will greatly improve our map for routing in the area, a crucial requirement for the logistics of moving aid into the affected areas. http://54.204.112.160/job/1001 You will notice that the url for the tile manage is a bit different for this job. We have set up a second tasking manager to help handle the load by splitting up some of the jobs across the two managers. This way we put some people on each machine so they handle the load better. Thank you to pierregiraud and dodbas for setting up this new server to help us handle the huge number of volunteers we have been getting for these jobs. - -AndrewBuck -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSiCY/AAoJEK7RwIfxHSXb5zAQAMJDL+4DgWQ+p+8UY5Q6lpuK 7sUtdT/0AeLgQnyJNuhSlybNUuz6LE3H4UVl5PbzxmevkD1uE/IGE9UR9aBaY885 1lzzTRlFLooGcUN3b01Brm1domfbTXMuQX59PyoF4eqM2DfkxKWZR56y8UC0FVnj hbF5qwl06mYLSImH9vH2c+gmCyu7jPbxYOdn4ZTWx7qDB1x1PQJNHfHw++IgYlQ6 GW+7n5EAqMiIaBYa8hZEvUJdSrChFlne1B0tUaK36+Rmt9ZPhgm1jG/yvhXBvEgn XrS3JdVQ7OqeUA7D9kVd7rVStJerQySGhLBELPY4azGrJSwPPyA/1B2HGuagE1F6 pp9M87Kc4iaUUOCLhcUu6jcLAESa7/dbMolhe31wa90WslbZjKW71lDenUzDFezo 8N5eaDESRkrjrTt2nJumKP1YDeXsB8Okvi1SUsRw4PwUGdIz5qMdx4JY+KpbASx2 NyttZQv1lQS5ad8xWgGwcnTb8bWE1+aa8EcZWUx+fPnXKlE25EihPkBgGhXRTVxx 6M+n6xsF2Si9NWVkov3mzoxdDVIdCQfm8N0t0uEiWgIF5q/6ZALRiuDrf2T4DAIV nBFF/M2mfIOU4e6IG+hoI/qhKsIpPuNoe3UKDDVP4cSyn12ubUc1FMiJPk9ITYPc QtpmDvU65yztKyHKJvTa =duSz -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ HOT mailing list h...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] DigitalGlobe public imagery available now
Guiuan and Hernani looks really bad. :( On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 11:05 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: FYI, Post-typhoon imagery ready for tracing. Coverage availbale in anew TM server: http://54.204.112.160/ Photo in FB: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151999838842597set=a.10151999838717597.1073741830.345455082596type=1theater -- Forwarded message -- From: Andrew Buck andrew.r.b...@gmail.com Date: Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [HOT] DigitalGlobe public imagery available now To: h...@openstreetmap.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wow, this is an amazing contribution to our effort here. This area covers many areas in which we had no prvious high resolution imagery, and it also offers post disaster imagery for many places which we have already mapped allowing us to update our map to reflect the new situation in the area. I have already created a tasking manager job for the areas where we did not have any imagery before. Filling in these blank spots will greatly improve our map for routing in the area, a crucial requirement for the logistics of moving aid into the affected areas. http://54.204.112.160/job/1001 You will notice that the url for the tile manage is a bit different for this job. We have set up a second tasking manager to help handle the load by splitting up some of the jobs across the two managers. This way we put some people on each machine so they handle the load better. Thank you to pierregiraud and dodbas for setting up this new server to help us handle the huge number of volunteers we have been getting for these jobs. - -AndrewBuck -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSiCY/AAoJEK7RwIfxHSXb5zAQAMJDL+4DgWQ+p+8UY5Q6lpuK 7sUtdT/0AeLgQnyJNuhSlybNUuz6LE3H4UVl5PbzxmevkD1uE/IGE9UR9aBaY885 1lzzTRlFLooGcUN3b01Brm1domfbTXMuQX59PyoF4eqM2DfkxKWZR56y8UC0FVnj hbF5qwl06mYLSImH9vH2c+gmCyu7jPbxYOdn4ZTWx7qDB1x1PQJNHfHw++IgYlQ6 GW+7n5EAqMiIaBYa8hZEvUJdSrChFlne1B0tUaK36+Rmt9ZPhgm1jG/yvhXBvEgn XrS3JdVQ7OqeUA7D9kVd7rVStJerQySGhLBELPY4azGrJSwPPyA/1B2HGuagE1F6 pp9M87Kc4iaUUOCLhcUu6jcLAESa7/dbMolhe31wa90WslbZjKW71lDenUzDFezo 8N5eaDESRkrjrTt2nJumKP1YDeXsB8Okvi1SUsRw4PwUGdIz5qMdx4JY+KpbASx2 NyttZQv1lQS5ad8xWgGwcnTb8bWE1+aa8EcZWUx+fPnXKlE25EihPkBgGhXRTVxx 6M+n6xsF2Si9NWVkov3mzoxdDVIdCQfm8N0t0uEiWgIF5q/6ZALRiuDrf2T4DAIV nBFF/M2mfIOU4e6IG+hoI/qhKsIpPuNoe3UKDDVP4cSyn12ubUc1FMiJPk9ITYPc QtpmDvU65yztKyHKJvTa =duSz -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ HOT mailing list h...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Update imagery index
Can somebody update our Imagery Index coverage: http://osmph.github.io/Imagery_Coverage_Map/ We need to identify what areas needs more imagery (pre or post). Code and instructions here: https://github.com/OSMPH/Imagery_Coverage_Map I can merge any pull requests, I just don't have good bandwidth to check all areas. A list of avalibale imgery here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Typhoon_Haiyan#Mapping_response Thanks! -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [OSM-talk-be] My Mapproxy Web page (was: WMS for OSM using EPSG:31370)
Thanks a lot for investigating, explaining and documenting this on the Wiki, André m On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 5:57 AM, André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.comwrote: On 2013-11-15 22:03, André Pirard wrote : Anyway, I decided to stop speaking of Mapproxy repeatedly and to write a Web page instead. I hope to finish it tonight and it will contain a super simple procedure with a guaranteed-to-work simple configuration for OSM (I have doubts about the config in the OSM wiki page). There you are (meaning here it is)http://www.papou.byethost9.com/maps/mapproxy/. But there's a hitch. If I display Mapproxy's Lambert72 on JOSM, there's a nasty offset with OSM data (which JOSM reprojects 4326 - Lambert72). That should be due to a difference between the proj4 definitions in Ubuntu (used by Mapproxy) and in JOSM. If I use Lambert08, it's correct. Most probably a JOSM bug again: I've had to upgrade it because Lambert was no longer working in the first place. I will investigate. Tell me if you meet that problem, if it's annoying for you and it you find which is the culprit. Any feedback appreciated, especially what would be missing for the first steps while still keeping it simple. All this said, I find it very strange from AGIV, as well as SPW, to work exclusively in 31370, because all servers in the world serve 4326, maybe in addition to a local EPSG, and BTW, if you want the Mapproxy documentation in any other language, switch my page to that language and then click the Mappproxy link. Who did you call Polyglot? ;-) BTW2, I was surprised that the Dutch translation looks better to me than the French one. I expected exactly the opposite. But, of course, I'm more demanding in French. I read Introductie and my amazement abruptly turned to laughter with the last two words: Mapproxy terrein :-) Cheers, André. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk] Upcoming changes - a reply to your feedback
Hi All, Thank you for all the comments about the proposed redesign of OpenStreetMap.org website. I fed these back to the developers on the github pull request [1]. John has written a reply to the ideas, which I have copied below. In summary changes have been made to the Welcome text and urban centric About text. The contrast of the top links has also been increased slightly. The idea of expanding the export functionality to link people to other ways of getting OSM data was well received but falls outside of the scope of this redesign (hopefully it will come in the future). If you spot anything else, feel free to reply with your constructive feedback and I'm sure John will be happy to answer in due course. Best regards, Rob [1] https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/498#issuecomment-28603439 --- REPLY FROM JOHN --- @RobJN Thanks for the summary of the mailing list comments. text attributs for the top menus. I've increased the contrast on the secondary navigation links. The documentation behind Help feels like it is too many clicks away (desire to keep it on the home page). A main goal of the redesign was to make the experience more focused and not overwhelm a user who's looking for Help with multiple links (forum, wiki, etc) but with a single clear option - Help. The help page itself should be improved in the future, but it is conceptually sound and better than what we have today. It was also suggested that Help was given higher priority and the export feature lower priority (e.g. by switching there positions). Others pointed out that the ability to export is what makes OSM different and as such if we want to promote this (i.e. the Export feature), we need a description page with links to the planet file, country excerpts, small exports (from the osm-server) and to larger exports via the overpass API or overpass turbo page. I chose the current grouping for two reasons. Conceptually it makes sense: Edit, History, Export are all about providing access to OSM's data, which is one of the primary purposes of the website, while Help and About provide auxiliary information about the project itself. It also makes things that behave similarly, look similar: Edit, History, and Export all provide a map-centric view, while the other links go to interior pages of the site which do not feature a map. Saman and I both talked about bigger changes to OSM.org's information architecture at the respective State of the Maps, and I think there will be opportunities to reorganize the navigation elements with the goal of better aligning them to the primary purposes for which OSM.org is used (as a map, as an app for maintaining a geodatabase, as a social platform, as a data resource for 3rd parties). But that's too wide of a goal for this effort. Similarly I'd like to table the second request on expanded Export functionality -- those sound like good ideas, but are outside the scope of this effort. the About first sentence is very urban-centric... the community driven section is talking about engineers and HOT team but the average contributor ... is not mentioned even though it is the main part of the community. I'm working on some copy adjustments to better balance this. Imho there should be a way to remove the Welcome-textbox, too. (for non-logged in users) I think it provides a nice impetus to create an account. :) --- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes - a reply to your feedback
First of all, thanks for the nice redesign. Imho there should be a way to remove the Welcome-textbox, too. (for non-logged in users) I think it provides a nice impetus to create an account. :) To be honest, the welcome box annoys me as well, as a frequent JOSM-editor, and I think it would also annoy me as a new user. Is the way to attract new users really to annoy them? I have other companies seen doing that, but I doubt Openstreetmap needs such a thing. I don't know what are the opinions of other users, but as far as I'm concerned, the website would be better if the box could be hidden. -- Matthijs ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes - a reply to your feedback
On 16/11/2013 13:18, Rob Nickerson wrote: Hi All, Thank you for all the comments about the proposed redesign of OpenStreetMap.org website. I fed these back to the developers on the github pull request [1]. I realise I'm late to the party, but I think the Help should be a pop down menu instead of going directly to a separate page include the About page in that pop down. The GPS traces button should display the users traces, instead of All traces. Does anybody have a use for this disparate list? Are there any plans to introduce the OWL History into the main map? When it works it's much more helpful than the current one. Would its stability be increased by running it on the OSM servers? Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes - a reply to your feedback
On 16/11/13 13:56, Dave F. wrote: I realise I'm late to the party, but I think the Help should be a pop down menu instead of going directly to a separate page include the About page in that pop down. Well the intention is that the help page will be fleshed out with a lot more information in due course - more than would fit in a popup. The GPS traces button should display the users traces, instead of All traces. Does anybody have a use for this disparate list? This PR is mostly about exactly what the title says - redesigning what we have. It is generally not about adding new features or changing what things we already have do. Those are things that can be addressed later. Are there any plans to introduce the OWL History into the main map? When it works it's much more helpful than the current one. Would its stability be increased by running it on the OSM servers? There have been plans to do this ever since it was created. As soon as the people maintaining and running OWL have something stable for us to use it will happen. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes - a reply to your feedback
On 11/16/2013 02:48 PM, Matthijs Melissen wrote: Imho there should be a way to remove the Welcome-textbox, too. (for non-logged in users) I think it provides a nice impetus to create an account. :) To be honest, the welcome box annoys me as well, I disagree here: The welcome box explain what is Openstreetmap. Without it, you just see the slippy map, that would not be enough ! My regret is that there is no welcome box on the small screen version. Yves ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes - a reply to your feedback
2013/11/16 Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu I realise I'm late to the party, but I think the Help should be a pop down menu instead of going directly to a separate page include the About page in that pop down. Well the intention is that the help page will be fleshed out with a lot more information in due course - more than would fit in a popup. maybe there could be both? A direct link to the wiki on the map and a help-link to a page with more verbose help information acting as a distributor page for the forum, wiki, stackexchange etc.? cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-br] Orchard vs farmland
Como eles classificam cana-de-açúcar? É uma lavoura com ciclo maior que um ano, mas deve ser farmland. Erva-mate deve ser considerada forest, da mesma forma que seringueira, eucalipto ou pinus. Já o café é orchard, como a laranja, a menos que haja uma categoria específica para ele, como vineyard para uva. O manejo de uma plantação de café é intenso como outros pomares. Em 09/11/2013 16:10, Fernando Trebien fernando.treb...@gmail.com escreveu: Hm pois é, seringueira deveria ser landuse=forest porque é uma plantação (=manejada) de árvores usadas para o extrativismo (do látex) e não para a alimentação. Por outro lado, ninguém marcaria uma plantação de café ou de chá como pomar, embora caiam na definição de orchard do OSM. Mas enfim, pomar parece ser a tradução mais aproximada mesmo. 2013/11/9 Nelson A. de Oliveira nao...@gmail.com Pra deixar mais claro: não pode levar a classificar plantações permanentes de plantas não-frutíferas como orchard? ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br -- Fernando Trebien +55 (51) 9962-5409 The speed of computer chips doubles every 18 months. (Moore's law) The speed of software halves every 18 months. (Gates' law) ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] Orchard vs farmland
Eis o problema. Se traduzirmos orchard como pomar, ninguém usando o programa traduzido vai marcar uma plantação de café como orchard porque ninguém pensa em pomares de café. Se a erva-mate produz um produto com fim alimentício, então o texto do wiki em inglês sugere que deveria ser farmland ou orchard. Sendo uma planta arbustiva, seria orchard. Eu vejo só duas soluções pra isso: ou achamos uma tradução melhor, ou mudamos esses conceitos um pouco pra uso aqui no Brasil (que poderia ser simplesmente aceitar a tradução atual). On Nov 16, 2013 7:17 AM, Flavio Bello Fialho bello.fla...@gmail.com wrote: Como eles classificam cana-de-açúcar? É uma lavoura com ciclo maior que um ano, mas deve ser farmland. Erva-mate deve ser considerada forest, da mesma forma que seringueira, eucalipto ou pinus. Já o café é orchard, como a laranja, a menos que haja uma categoria específica para ele, como vineyard para uva. O manejo de uma plantação de café é intenso como outros pomares. Em 09/11/2013 16:10, Fernando Trebien fernando.treb...@gmail.com escreveu: Hm pois é, seringueira deveria ser landuse=forest porque é uma plantação (=manejada) de árvores usadas para o extrativismo (do látex) e não para a alimentação. Por outro lado, ninguém marcaria uma plantação de café ou de chá como pomar, embora caiam na definição de orchard do OSM. Mas enfim, pomar parece ser a tradução mais aproximada mesmo. 2013/11/9 Nelson A. de Oliveira nao...@gmail.com Pra deixar mais claro: não pode levar a classificar plantações permanentes de plantas não-frutíferas como orchard? ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br -- Fernando Trebien +55 (51) 9962-5409 The speed of computer chips doubles every 18 months. (Moore's law) The speed of software halves every 18 months. (Gates' law) ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] ICMBio
Sobre a atrubuição, eu mencionei explicitamente a página de contribuidores da wiki, então acho que não tem dúvida. Criei uma descrição dos meu planos na wiki. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ICMBio_Import Sobre as áreas que já estão no mapa, eu não pretendo alterá-las, mas pretendo uniformizar as suas tags com o esquema usado na importação. On Sat, 2013-11-16 at 00:05 -0200, Fernando Trebien wrote: Certamente é um sinal muito positivo, pelo que eu entendo isso significa que podemos continuar com a importação usando pelo menos a tag source=ICMBio. Mas quando a Carla disse, Recomendamos a inclusão do ICMBio como colaborador do projeto OpenStreetMap, teria que confirmar se o que ela quis dizer foi que ela gostaria/exigiria crédito naquela página de copyright do site principal. O pessoal da lista legal não respondeu meu último e-mail ainda (sobre o LABGEO). 2013/11/15 Augusto Stoffel arstof...@yahoo.com.br Contatei o ICMBio explicando que os dados no OSM podem ser usados em trabalhos derivados e comerciais, e também que a atribuição de autoria se daria através de uma tag source que é facilmente visível apenas em modo de edição, bem como uma referência na página de contribuidores da wiki. A reposta do ICMBio, anexada abaixo, parece indicar que o uso é possível, e quiças visto com certo entusiasmo. === Original Message Subject:Fwd: Uso de dados geográficos Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 09:11:46 -0200 From: Ascom ICMBio ascomchicomen...@icmbio.gov.br To: arstoffel@XXX Augusto, segue a resposta acerca de sua demanda sobre o uso dos dados do portal ICMBio. Contamos com vc no sentido de garantir os créditos de tais dados ao ICMBio. Sandra Tavares Comunicação ICMBio 61-3341-9290 -- Mensagem encaminhada -- De: *Fabiana Hessel* fabiana.hes...@icmbio.gov.br mailto:fabiana.hes...@icmbio.gov.br Data: 12 de novembro de 2013 11:58 Assunto: Re: Uso de dados geográficos Para: Carla Lessa caule...@gmail.com mailto:caule...@gmail.com, ICMBio Instituto Chico Mendes de Conservação da Biodiversidade ascomchicomen...@icmbio.gov.br mailto:ascomchicomen...@icmbio.gov.br Prezada Sandra, Informamos por meio do Sistema de Acesso à Informação que os dados dos limites das UCs são públicos e podem ser utilizados. Interessante saber que os dados serão incorporados ao OpenStreetMap, com o atributo ICMBio para cada dado. Recomendamos a inclusão do ICMBio como colaborador do projeto OpenStreetMap. Ressaltamos a necessidade de atualização dos dados referentes aos limites das UCs federais para alimentação do OpenStreetMap, pois os mesmos estão sendo revisados/refinados para bases cartográficas de melhor escala, sendo atualizados trimestralmente no site do ICMBio na aba Serviços Geoprocessamento Mapa temático e dados geoestatísticos das UCs. Por fim, informa-se que a DCOL trata especificamente dos limites das unidades de conservação federais, e que acerca dos dados das RPPN´s é necessário contactar o responsável, que se não me engano é o Luciano de Souza, da Coordenação de Criação. Atenciosamente, Em 12 de novembro de 2013 11:38, Carla Lessa caule...@gmail.com mailto:caule...@gmail.com escreveu: *Carla Michelle Lessa* Chefe da Divisão de Consolidação de Limites - DCOL Coordenação Geral de Consolidação Territorial - CGTER/DISAT Instituto Chico Mendes de Conservação da Biodiversidade - ICMBio Skype: caulessa (61) 33419093/85295343 -- Mensagem encaminhada -- De: *Ascom ICMBio* ascomchicomen...@icmbio.gov.br mailto:ascomchicomen...@icmbio.gov.br Data: 11 de novembro de 2013 16:46 Assunto: Fwd: Uso de dados geográficos Para: carla.le...@icmbio.gov.br mailto:carla.le...@icmbio.gov.br Carla, segue email pedindo para usar arquivos em shape fale das
Re: [Talk-de] Voting man_made=lamp
Servus, mich wundert die hohe Ablehnung. Speziell im deutschen Bereich (hier) wird wenig darüber diskutiert. Schade Lg Jimmy On Sunday 10 November 2013 10:47:37 chris66 wrote: Moin, die Abstimmung zum Proposal man_made=lamp hat begonnen. Bis zum 23. November habt Ihr noch Zeit über das Detailmapping von Glühlampen abzustimmen. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/lamp Grüße Chris ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Voting man_made=lamp
Hallo Jimmy, Die Kommentare sind aber doch recht einheitlich. Letztlich läuft es bei den meisten Opposern darauf hinaus, dass ein einfaches ein-Tag-Objekt für Straßenlaternen notwendig ist, das Proposal aber genau das abschaffen will. Ich würde den Leuten recht geben an der Stelle, zumal das Proposal schon jetzt vorsieht, die Street_lamps zu ersetzen. Gruß Peter Am 16.11.2013 10:25, schrieb Jimmy K: Servus, mich wundert die hohe Ablehnung. Speziell im deutschen Bereich (hier) wird wenig darüber diskutiert. Schade Lg Jimmy On Sunday 10 November 2013 10:47:37 chris66 wrote: Moin, die Abstimmung zum Proposal man_made=lamp hat begonnen. Bis zum 23. November habt Ihr noch Zeit über das Detailmapping von Glühlampen abzustimmen. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/lamp Grüße Chris ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] 1. Tag - 10.000 Nummern ?? Kölner Mappingevent, So. 17. November
Hallo Johannes, ist die Erfassung morgen auch von 10-20h beschränkt oder geht es remote schon um 0h (ok, realistisch früh am morgen) los? Viele Grüße Dietmar Am 08.11.2013 06:48, schrieb jotpe: So hier der Nachtrag, der Link zum Taskmanager ist: http://tasks.poole.ch/job/63 Viele Grüße Johannes Am 26. Oktober 2013 22:09 schrieb jotpe jotpe@gmail.com: Hallo Liste, wir planen am 17. November ein Kölner Mappingevent um Häuser zu malen und die Adressdaten der Stadt Köln [1] dabei mit zu verwurschten. 10.000 Hausnummern ist zwar ambitioniert, aber mit der Liegenschaftskarte des NRW-Atlas haben wir eine schicke Ausgangslage... Nochmal danke an Joachim. Wer uns helfen möchte, ist dazu herzlich eingeladen!!! Stattfinden soll das ganze in Köln-Westhoven [2]: Gastwerk im Engelshof [3] (KVB Linie 7, Haltestelle Westhoven, Berliner Str.) von 10:00 bis 20:00 Uhr. Nur Kleingeld fürs Essen/Trinken und Laptop mitbringen. Steckdosen, WLAN und Heizung, alles da. Haha. Wenn noch *jemand dazu kommen möchte*, dann mir bitte bescheid geben (wg. Tischreservierung). Anwesenheit ist nicht zwingend erforderlich; Kommunikation über IRC [4] und Organisation über einen Taskmanager (genauer Link kommt noch) Freue mich, bis dahin! Gruß Johannes [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cologne/Adressimport [2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/159088258 [3] http://www.gastwerk-im-engelshof.de/ [4] irc://irc.freenode.net/#Koeln_Adressimport ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] 1. Tag - 10.000 Nummern ?? Kölner Mappingevent, So. 17. November
Kein Problem... Der Auswertung dürfte deswegen nicht scheitern. Gruß Johannes Am 16. November 2013 15:35 schrieb Dietmar ostr...@diesei.de: Hallo Johannes, ist die Erfassung morgen auch von 10-20h beschränkt oder geht es remote schon um 0h (ok, realistisch früh am morgen) los? Viele Grüße Dietmar Am 08.11.2013 06:48, schrieb jotpe: So hier der Nachtrag, der Link zum Taskmanager ist: http://tasks.poole.ch/job/63 Viele Grüße Johannes Am 26. Oktober 2013 22:09 schrieb jotpe jotpe@gmail.com: Hallo Liste, wir planen am 17. November ein Kölner Mappingevent um Häuser zu malen und die Adressdaten der Stadt Köln [1] dabei mit zu verwurschten. 10.000 Hausnummern ist zwar ambitioniert, aber mit der Liegenschaftskarte des NRW-Atlas haben wir eine schicke Ausgangslage... Nochmal danke an Joachim. Wer uns helfen möchte, ist dazu herzlich eingeladen!!! Stattfinden soll das ganze in Köln-Westhoven [2]: Gastwerk im Engelshof [3] (KVB Linie 7, Haltestelle Westhoven, Berliner Str.) von 10:00 bis 20:00 Uhr. Nur Kleingeld fürs Essen/Trinken und Laptop mitbringen. Steckdosen, WLAN und Heizung, alles da. Haha. Wenn noch *jemand dazu kommen möchte*, dann mir bitte bescheid geben (wg. Tischreservierung). Anwesenheit ist nicht zwingend erforderlich; Kommunikation über IRC [4] und Organisation über einen Taskmanager (genauer Link kommt noch) Freue mich, bis dahin! Gruß Johannes [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cologne/Adressimport [2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/159088258 [3] http://www.gastwerk-im-engelshof.de/ [4] irc://irc.freenode.net/#Koeln_Adressimport ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] RadioOSM: OSMDE024 Hörergemurmel
Hallo liebe OpenStreetMapper, die neuste Folge von RadioOSM - OSMDE024 Hörergemurmel - ist verfügbar und sollte in Kürze in euren Podcatchern auftauchen. Natürlich könnt ihr diese Folge auch in unserem Blog hören: http://podcast.openstreetmap.de/2013/11/17/osmde024-hoerergemurmel/ Dort findet ihr auch Links zu allen Themen, über die wir gespochen haben. Viel Spaß damit und Liebe Grüße, euer RadioOSM Team - Andi, Marc und Peter ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-it] Area Pic-Nic
Ok, ma per non inventarmi una direttiva tu cosa fai di solito? Rileggendo bene la bibbia qui: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dpicnic_site dice che è un'area che *potrebbe* avere anche delle strutture di servizio come fuochi panchine ecc. ma potrebbe anche essere soltanto un prato solitamente utilizzato per farci il pic-nic...! Boh! -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Area-Pic-Nic-tp5785346p5785651.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Inabissata Filicudi
E pure Alicudi sulla mappa osm.org. Sono stato via un po'. Sapete se è già stato risolto? ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Quesiti vari...
Vorrei sapere gentilmente se ed eventualmente come il letto di un fiume in prossimita della foce, è quasi del tutto secco... Secondo cosa, gli scogli, come sopra, si mappano ed in caso come? Il mio dubbio principale è se considerare OSM come una fotocopia di immagini satellitari o no??? Saluti e grazie -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Quesiti-vari-tp5785662.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Quesiti vari...
Per il letto del fiume, dipende se lo stato è permanente o meno. Se la condizione lo consente aggiungerei intermittent=yes. Per gli scogli puoi usare natural=rock [1]. Puoi usare sia nodi che aree. FabC [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Drock Il giorno 16 novembre 2013 14:31, ramon saxe...@libero.it ha scritto: Vorrei sapere gentilmente se ed eventualmente come il letto di un fiume in prossimita della foce, è quasi del tutto secco... Secondo cosa, gli scogli, come sopra, si mappano ed in caso come? Il mio dubbio principale è se considerare OSM come una fotocopia di immagini satellitari o no??? Saluti e grazie -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Quesiti-vari-tp5785662.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Quesiti vari...
Grazie, ma l'aerea del letto come la dovrei mappare? -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Quesiti-vari-tp5785662p5785669.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Quesiti vari...
Ok, grazie, per il letto ho trovato: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:waterway%3Dwadi giusto? -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Quesiti-vari-tp5785662p5785672.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Inabissata Filicudi
credo sia stato un errore mio...selezionando la way perimetrale ho creato un multipoligono tramite josm che mi ha trasferito in automatico tutti i tag associati alla way sulla relation, incluso natural=coastline. me ne sono accorto purtroppo solo un paio di giorni fa. ho già ritrasferito il tag sulla way quindi dovrebbe essere corretto me gradirei che qualcuno un po' più competente faccia una verifica. chiedo scusa a tutta la community per il danno :( - Ciao, Aury -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Inabissata-Filicudi-tp5785653p5785674.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Quesiti vari...
ramon wrote Ok, grazie, per il letto ho trovato: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:waterway%3Dwadi giusto? -1 Non credo sia il tag adatto, infatti è in corso una discussione sull'uso di questo tag. Da quel che capisco sembra sia riferito ai fiumi africani. Il tag intermittent=yes è da aggiungere al waterway=river o quello più adatto. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Quesiti-vari-tp5785662p5785675.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] liberi di muoversi
http://www.liberidimuoversi.it/map/ qualcuno li conosce? li si contatta per segnalare OSM e wheelmap? -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] liberi di muoversi
+1, non li conosco ma penso valga la pena. Matteo Il 16/nov/2013 15:45 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com ha scritto: http://www.liberidimuoversi.it/map/ qualcuno li conosce? li si contatta per segnalare OSM e wheelmap? -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Quesiti vari...
Am 16/nov/2013 um 15:00 schrieb ramon saxe...@libero.it: Ok, grazie, per il letto ho trovato: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:waterway%3Dwadi giusto? wadi mi sembra un feature specifico non so se va bene per il tuo caso. userei qualcosa come riverbed, per esempio http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=natural%3Driverbed ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Questa cosa fa impazzire il mio Garmin
premetto che non posso aiutarti, ma.. 1) Che navigatore hai? 2) Quali mappe hai installate? dal josm e con l'intellegenza dell'uomo sembra tutto a posto, ti posso dare ragione che ci sono trooope vie e che magari il navigatore non capisce dove è e di consequenza non sa come continuare -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Questa-cosa-fa-impazzire-il-mio-Garmin-tp5785632p5785709.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Inabissata Filicudi
2013/11/16 Aury88 spacedrive...@gmail.com credo sia stato un errore mio...selezionando la way perimetrale ho creato un multipoligono tramite josm che mi ha trasferito in automatico tutti i tag associati alla way sulla relation, incluso natural=coastline. c'era un bug (o cambiamento del default) che JOSM faceva questo (per poco tempo se ricordo bene), avevo segnalato il problema e credo di ricordare che era stato risolto dopo poco. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Questa cosa fa impazzire il mio Garmin
Il giorno 16 novembre 2013 00:42, Stefano Droghetti stefano.droghe...@gmail.com ha scritto: Oggi passando di qua: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/45.34946/9.30895 ho dovuto impostare la mappa proprietaria perché da questo punto il dispositivo non ce la fa a capire nulla. Non so se è corretto mappare così un casello o se occorre fare qualcosa a livello di render con mkgmap, ma se impostate un percorso che passa di qua, col Garmin non arrivate da nessuna parte. Non sei l'unico ad aver avuto problemi con quel casello... https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2013-October/068393.html Ciao, Stefano ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Questa cosa fa impazzire il mio Garmin
Il 16/11/2013 20:51, noperante ha scritto: premetto che non posso aiutarti, ma.. 1) Che navigatore hai? 2) Quali mappe hai installate? 1) Garmin Nuvi. Provato su almeno tre modelli Nuvi. 2) mappa OSM dell'Italia generata con mkgmaps dal josm e con l'intellegenza dell'uomo sembra tutto a posto, ti posso dare ragione che ci sono trooope vie e che magari il navigatore non capisce dove è e di consequenza non sa come continuare Crea un comportamento stranissimo: se un tragitto lungo (tipo: Bologna - parcheggio San Donato via autostrade) deve passare di lì, il navigatore ti fa uscire al casello prima, poi si perde in campagna e mentre gira a casaccio per stradine di campagna sostiene che sei ancora sull'A1, proferendo ricalcolo ogni 10 secondi. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Questa cosa fa impazzire il mio Garmin
Il 16/11/2013 23:07, sabas88 ha scritto: Non sei l'unico ad aver avuto problemi con quel casello... https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2013-October/068393.html Effettivamente, sono piuttosto d'accordo. Silly è il minimo che si possa dire per una mappatura così. Ha scatenato le risate di più di una persona a cui l'ho mostrata. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Update shops, pubs and restaurants
Dear all, All Birmingham shops, pubs and restaurants within the Queensway are now on the map (except if I overlooked any, of course). Most of the shops, pubs and restaurant had already been mapped by brianboru and pigsonthewing (thanks for that!). I made a new complete survey, and added everything that we didn't have yet (mainly in malls/arcades, and a couple of places that changed since the last survey). I also added the shops in the Bullring. Maybe it would be an idea to set up some kind of page in which we track in which parts of Birmingham the shops still need to be surveyed? What would be the best way to set this up? Kind regards, Matthijs ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-es] Debate con topónimo catalán (Sant Quirze del Vallès)
El problema de los topónimos en castellano es que algunos no han sido traducidos de forma histórica o con un proceso correcto.Por poner un ejemplo, mientras que nos estamos poniendo las manos en la cabeza por San Cucufato (Sant Cugat) o San Baudilio (Sant Boi) otros que tenían traducción más evidente recibieron un trato diferencial. Imaginaos una historia así.Soy Caudillo de España - o de su confianza - y castellanizo todo lo que pillo y llego a Sant Sadurní d'Anoia.Pregunto cómo se llama el lugar,y lo que me dicen me recuerda a mi lugar de nacimiento: Galicia (la ría de Muros y Noia) .¡Ah! ¡como mi pueblo! Bueno, pues vamos a escribirlo bien: San Sadurní de Noya (nada de Saturninos - esta traducción es más evidente que otras peores). La población catalana ha acabado teniendo esta sensación . En Catalunya los topónimos castellanos recuerdan a lo peor de nuestra historia reciente.Aunque algunos sean el topónimo correcto en castellano, dado que el catalán es el único oficial y que lo otro nos retrotrae al blanco y negro y NODO es doloroso y casi un insulto ver ciertos mapas internacionales con denominaciones que por suerte, hace 40 años que no se usan, (por eso las discusiones en Wikipedia y ahora aquí).Habría que hacer una actualización de los topónimos catalanes al castellano, probablemente con la adecuación de la ortografía castellana a la fonética catalana y poco más (no es lo mismo Vilanova y la Geltrú que Villanueva y Geltrú o San Cugat o San Boi que San Cucufato o San Baudilio). Salud y mapas yopaseopor ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
[Talk-ar] colaborar con el osm
Hola me compre un garmin etrex legend hcx hoy y el proximo lunes estaremos trabajando desde Piedra Buena hasta el Lago San Martin en la provincia Santa Cruz.. La idea es mapear toda ese circuito desde la costa hasta la montaña y me gustaria hacerlo sobre osm para que quede registrado.. Vamos a mapear tambien 15 estancias durante ese recorrido.. Exactamente Alguien me puede decir que tengo que hacer debo bajar el mapa de osm, de donde y que mas necesito.. gracias gus ___ Talk-ar mailing list Talk-ar@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ar
Re: [Talk-at] Mappen von Stiegen (als Teil der Adresse)
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. November 2013 um 16:20 Uhr Von: Christian Aigner openstreet...@sys-admin.at An: talk-at@openstreetmap.org Betreff: Re: [Talk-at] Mappen von Stiegen (als Teil der Adresse) Am 14.11.2013 15:48, schrieb Stefan Tauner: Dann fork dir Nominatim, implementier die addr:unit-Suche und schau, daß es bald integriert wird. :) In Anlehnung an Dr. Leonard McCoy: Dammit, Jim! I'm a mapper, not a programmer! Good one, den merk ich mir! ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] Mappen von Stiegen (als Teil der Adresse)
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. November 2013 um 20:37 Uhr Von: Hermann Moser hermann.mo...@kirchfeld50.com An: 'OpenStreetMap AT' talk-at@openstreetmap.org Betreff: Re: [Talk-at] Mappen von Stiegen (als Teil der Adresse) Herr Volkmann, ich kenne Sie auch nicht persönlich. Gehe davon aus, dass ich nun auch Ihre Kommentare ungefragt löschen kann. Hermann (angepisst WIE hier Einzelne kommunizieren). Dankeschön, dacht schon ich sei der einzige dem es auffällt! -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Friedrich Volkmann [mailto:b...@volki.at] Gesendet: Tuesday, 12. November 2013 00:21 An: talk-at@openstreetmap.org Betreff: Re: [Talk-at] Mappen von Stiegen (als Teil der Adresse) On 11.11.2013 13:14, Markus Straub wrote: wie mappt ihr zurzeit Stiegen? Also z.B: Beispielstraße 15/2 (Hausnr 15, Stiege 2) Ich mappe sie meistens überhaupt nicht, weil sie mich nicht interessieren. Aber wenn ich sie mappe, dann addr:unit (ohne weitere Tags) auf Nodes (innerhalb des Gebäudes oder auf einen Eingang) und addr:housenumber, addr:street usw. auf das Gebäude. Wenn ein Gebäude 20 Stiegen hat, dann wäre es absurd, 20x die Hausnummer und die Straße zu taggen. Das gilt um so mehr für Gebäude mit mehreren äquivalenten Straße/Hausnummer- Kombinationen. Im Wiki findet sich addr:unit [1] - das wird auch schon verwendet (laut taginfo), ist aber nur proposed? Nein, das wurde schon durch Voting angenommen. Obwohl ich addr:unit blöd finde, weil das zu unscharf ist. addr:staircase wäre besser. In der damaligen Diskussion hat glaube ich irgendwer addr:unit vorgeschlagen, und der Proposalautor hat das gleich eingebaut, und keiner hat so richtig drüber nachgedacht. Aber addr:unit ist allemal noch besser als die Stiege mit der Hausnummer zu vermantschen. Und im WikiProjekt Austria [2] findet sich diese Behauptung - die ich nicht sehr sinnvoll finde (Adressen kann man ja beim Ausgeben formatieren wie man will, aber das darunterliegende Datenformat sollte schon einheitlich sein - also wenn addr:unit dann überall): Die Nummer der Stiege gehört in Österreich zur Hausnummer dazu (wird also als Teil von addr:housenumber=* und nicht via addr:unit=* getaggt). 16-26/68 ist also eine gültige Hausnummer (und bedeutet Hausnummern 16 bis 26, Stiege 68). Über die History lässt sich leicht eruieren, wo diese Behauptung herkommt: Die hat am 17. September 2013 ein gewisser RavuAlHemio, den keiner kennt, ins Wiki hineingeschrieben. = Kann man getrost wieder rauslöschen. -- Friedrich K. Volkmann http://www.volki.at/ Adr.: Davidgasse 76-80/14/10, 1100 Wien, Austria ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
[Talk-lv] Amatciems
Saprotu, ka OSM nav baigi aktuāli, kas Googles satelītbildēs, bet man patī, ka Amatciems nav vairs satelīts, bet gan aero foto, cik var saprast. Nez, kurš šito pasūtījis un sponsorējis? -- Instigater Serveru noma Eiropas Savienības datu centrā - sākot no 9.50 Ls/mēn www.projektam.lv ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv
Re: [Talk-lv] Amatciems
Njā, interesanti. Moš kāds google maps developeris tur dzīvo? 2013/11/16 Instigater instiga...@projektam.lv Saprotu, ka OSM nav baigi aktuāli, kas Googles satelītbildēs, bet man patī, ka Amatciems nav vairs satelīts, bet gan aero foto, cik var saprast. Nez, kurš šito pasūtījis un sponsorējis? -- Instigater Serveru noma Eiropas Savienības datu centrā - sākot no 9.50 Ls/mēn www.projektam.lv ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv
Re: [Talk-lv] Amatciems
Tad viņiem varbūt var ierosināt šīs bildes nošārēt OSM kartēšanai. Būs labi kartēts Amatciems OSM kartē. 2013/11/16 Raitis U. rait...@gmail.com Amatciema attīstītāji pasūtīja, Metrum nolidoja un aizsūtīja Google. 2013/11/16 Viesturs Zarins viest...@gmail.com Njā, interesanti. Moš kāds google maps developeris tur dzīvo? 2013/11/16 Instigater instiga...@projektam.lv Saprotu, ka OSM nav baigi aktuāli, kas Googles satelītbildēs, bet man patī, ka Amatciems nav vairs satelīts, bet gan aero foto, cik var saprast. Nez, kurš šito pasūtījis un sponsorējis? -- Instigater Serveru noma Eiropas Savienības datu centrā - sākot no 9.50 Ls/mēn www.projektam.lv ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv -- pb ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv
Re: [Talk-lv] Amatciems
http://www.amatciems.lv/lat/kontakti/ tur ir atsaucīgi cilvēki. 2013/11/16 Pēteris Brūns peteris.br...@gmail.com Tad viņiem varbūt var ierosināt šīs bildes nošārēt OSM kartēšanai. Būs labi kartēts Amatciems OSM kartē. 2013/11/16 Raitis U. rait...@gmail.com Amatciema attīstītāji pasūtīja, Metrum nolidoja un aizsūtīja Google. 2013/11/16 Viesturs Zarins viest...@gmail.com Njā, interesanti. Moš kāds google maps developeris tur dzīvo? 2013/11/16 Instigater instiga...@projektam.lv Saprotu, ka OSM nav baigi aktuāli, kas Googles satelītbildēs, bet man patī, ka Amatciems nav vairs satelīts, bet gan aero foto, cik var saprast. Nez, kurš šito pasūtījis un sponsorējis? -- Instigater Serveru noma Eiropas Savienības datu centrā - sākot no 9.50 Ls/mēn www.projektam.lv ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv -- pb ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv
[Talk-ca] Ottawa event today?
Looks like somebody is getting some new mappers started today in Ottawa. A bunch of new accounts showed up on #osm-ca . I've sent welcome notes to some of them. Nice to see some activity in Ottawa. :-) Who is running the class? ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Do we tag addresses on buildings or on separate nodes?
Sometimes retaining the address-numbering ways improves clarity, even when every node has an address. For example, Wildwood Park in Winnipeg has a numbering logic that is almost impossible to discern on the ground, even for long-time residents of the neighbourhood. Seeing the ways rendered on the map makes it evident. http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/49.84682/-97.13276 Michael Z. -- Michael Zajac http://zajac.ca/ +1-204-943-6596 Interpolations are generally regarded as approximations until we can get individual addresses mapped. The post in case was about if was more common to map a building with an address as one way with a building tag and address tags or as one way with a building tag and a node with address tags. It is more common to use a way with both a building tag and address tags by at least 10:3. From: Bruno Remy [mailto: bremy.qc.ca at gmail.com ] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 7:34 PM To: talk-ca at openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca] Do we tag addresses on buildings or on separate nodes? Hi, What do you think of this blog? Adress nodes versus interpolations? That's quite confusing :-/ What is the OpenStreetMap convention? Do we tag addresses on buildings or on separate nodes? http://t.co/tjRiwYSXLF Bruno ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Hosting an HOT mapping meetup this Saturday in Ottawa
Ah. This was stuck in the filter. Sorry 'bout that. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Récuperer fond de carte Openstreet map et compléter avec ses données
Le 15.11.13 00:03, Christian Quest a écrit : manipuler LES données OSM ? Lesquelles ? Toutes sur une grande zone ? C'est ingérable. Il faut vraiment extraire ce dont on a besoin et rien que ça et le faire avant des les ouvrir dans QGis qui n'est pas adapté à faire le tri sur un si gros volume. je n'ai pas compris comment on faisait pour extraire juste une fraction des données... -- Maïeul http://blog.maieul.net http://geekographie.maieul.net ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Récuperer fond de carte Openstreet map et compléter avec ses données
OSM contient des données d'usage très différent. Pour ton projet, je doute par exemple que les bâtiments ou les cabines téléphoniques soient utiles. Il faut donc partir plutôt dans l'autre sens... quelles données présentes dans OSM me sont utiles, comment les récupérer (les extraire) et ensuite les utiliser. Il faut donc filtrer pour ne récupérer que ce qui te sera nécessaire. Je vois 2 méthodes principales: - tout importer dans une base de données et ensuite piocher dedans - long et lourd à mon avis - filtrer les données OSM brute pour ne garder que ce que tu veux - sûrement plus rapide et simple Regarde osmosis ou osmfilter (voir sur le wiki) qui sont deux outils qui permettent de prendre un gros dump OSM complet et de n'en extraire que ce que l'on veut. Ensuite, QGis pourra manipuler ça. Le 16 novembre 2013 10:10, Maïeul mai...@maieul.net a écrit : Le 15.11.13 00:03, Christian Quest a écrit : manipuler LES données OSM ? Lesquelles ? Toutes sur une grande zone ? C'est ingérable. Il faut vraiment extraire ce dont on a besoin et rien que ça et le faire avant des les ouvrir dans QGis qui n'est pas adapté à faire le tri sur un si gros volume. je n'ai pas compris comment on faisait pour extraire juste une fraction des données... -- Maïeul http://blog.maieul.net http://geekographie.maieul.net ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France Un nouveau serveur pour OSM... http://donate.osm.org/server2013/ ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Récuperer fond de carte Openstreet map et compléter avec ses données
Le 16.11.13 12:17, Christian Quest a écrit : OSM contient des données d'usage très différent. Pour ton projet, je doute par exemple que les bâtiments ou les cabines téléphoniques soient utiles. Il faut donc partir plutôt dans l'autre sens... quelles données présentes dans OSM me sont utiles, comment les récupérer (les extraire) et ensuite les utiliser. Il faut donc filtrer pour ne récupérer que ce qui te sera nécessaire. Je vois 2 méthodes principales: - tout importer dans une base de données et ensuite piocher dedans - long et lourd à mon avis - filtrer les données OSM brute pour ne garder que ce que tu veux - sûrement plus rapide et simple Regarde osmosis ou osmfilter (voir sur le wiki) qui sont deux outils qui permettent de prendre un gros dump OSM complet et de n'en extraire que ce que l'on veut. ok, je crois comprendre. Mais il n'y a pas un outils en ligne du style : je vais sur http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=5/38.013/29.971, je clique sur exporter uniquement les polygones et paf ca le fait ? -- Maïeul http://blog.maieul.net http://geekographie.maieul.net ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Suivi cours d'eau
Salut, Merci pour ton outil :-) J’ai remarqué un petit « bug » : il y a un lien vers la page Sandre sur la « flèche » qui permet de fermer la liste des villes traversées Un petit moteur de recherche serait pratique (par rivière, code Sandre, pourquoi pas par commune) — Yves Le 15 nov. 2013 à 16:03, claude marani claude.mar...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour le résultat généré par l'outil d'Arnaud Renevier modifié pour la France entière est visible ici http://marani.claude.free.fr/courdo j'essairai de mettre à jour régulièrement cordialement Claude ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Récuperer fond de carte Openstreet map et compléter avec ses données
Il y a quelque chose de ce type: l'overpass-API. Tu peux n'extraire que certains type de données, sur certaines zones. Par contre, c'est adapté à des zones limitées ou des objets relativement peu fréquents. Exemple: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1wB - ligne RER C au complet Le 16 novembre 2013 14:11, Maïeul mai...@maieul.net a écrit : Le 16.11.13 12:17, Christian Quest a écrit : OSM contient des données d'usage très différent. Pour ton projet, je doute par exemple que les bâtiments ou les cabines téléphoniques soient utiles. Il faut donc partir plutôt dans l'autre sens... quelles données présentes dans OSM me sont utiles, comment les récupérer (les extraire) et ensuite les utiliser. Il faut donc filtrer pour ne récupérer que ce qui te sera nécessaire. Je vois 2 méthodes principales: - tout importer dans une base de données et ensuite piocher dedans - long et lourd à mon avis - filtrer les données OSM brute pour ne garder que ce que tu veux - sûrement plus rapide et simple Regarde osmosis ou osmfilter (voir sur le wiki) qui sont deux outils qui permettent de prendre un gros dump OSM complet et de n'en extraire que ce que l'on veut. ok, je crois comprendre. Mais il n'y a pas un outils en ligne du style : je vais sur http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=5/38.013/29.971, je clique sur exporter uniquement les polygones et paf ca le fait ? -- Maïeul http://blog.maieul.net http://geekographie.maieul.net ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France Un nouveau serveur pour OSM... http://donate.osm.org/server2013/ ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Interview Gaël sur TV5
Gäel devrait passer vers 18h30 sur TV5 pour parler du mapping OSM aux Philippines. Si quelqu'un pouvait enregistré ça serait cool pour nos archives ! -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France Un nouveau serveur pour OSM... http://donate.osm.org/server2013/ ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Récuperer fond de carte Openstreet map et compléter avec ses données
Le 16.11.13 15:47, Christian Quest a écrit : Il y a quelque chose de ce type: l'overpass-API. Tu peux n'extraire que certains type de données, sur certaines zones. Par contre, c'est adapté à des zones limitées ou des objets relativement peu fréquents. Exemple: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1wB - ligne RER C au complet disons que là, la seule chose que je veux extraire ce sont ... les polygones... -- Maïeul http://blog.maieul.net http://geekographie.maieul.net ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Récuperer fond de carte Openstreet map et compléter avec ses données
Le 16/11/2013 16:02, Maïeul a écrit : Le 16.11.13 15:47, Christian Quest a écrit : Il y a quelque chose de ce type: l'overpass-API. Tu peux n'extraire que certains type de données, sur certaines zones. Par contre, c'est adapté à des zones limitées ou des objets relativement peu fréquents. Exemple: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1wB - ligne RER C au complet disons que là, la seule chose que je veux extraire ce sont ... les polygones... Il y énormément de polygones dans OSM. Ça n'a pas trop de sens de vouloir les polygones, des objets peuvent à la fois être modélisé comme des polygones ou des points (ou des relations) suivant le cas. Par exemple des écoles, des lacs, des cour d'eau, des limites de communes, des forêts, des pays, les bâtiments... peuvent être représenté sous formes de polygones (ou d'une autre façon). ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Récuperer fond de carte Openstreet map et compléter avec ses données
Le 16 nov. 2013 à 18:25, Frédéric Rodrigo fred.rodr...@gmail.com a écrit : Le 16/11/2013 16:02, Maïeul a écrit : Le 16.11.13 15:47, Christian Quest a écrit : Il y a quelque chose de ce type: l'overpass-API. Tu peux n'extraire que certains type de données, sur certaines zones. Par contre, c'est adapté à des zones limitées ou des objets relativement peu fréquents. Exemple: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1wB - ligne RER C au complet disons que là, la seule chose que je veux extraire ce sont ... les polygones... je veux un truc SIMPLE : juste le fond de carte du bassin méditérannéen… veux pas de donnée supplémentaire… ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Interview Gaël sur TV5
Je l'ai enregistré. Si tu veux, je le mets sur la Dropbox. Am 16.11.2013 15:50, schrieb Christian Quest: Gäel devrait passer vers 18h30 sur TV5 pour parler du mapping OSM aux Philippines. Si quelqu'un pouvait enregistré ça serait cool pour nos archives ! -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France Un nouveau serveur pour OSM... http://donate.osm.org/server2013/ ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Interview Gaël sur TV5
Voici le passage de Gael http://dai.ly/x179qzn http://dai.ly/x179qzn -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Interview-Gael-sur-TV5-tp5785683p5785700.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Interview Gaël sur TV5
C'est juste moi ou tu as oublié de coder le son dans cette vidéo? 2013/11/16 PierreV belett...@hotmail.fr Voici le passage de Gael http://dai.ly/x179qzn http://dai.ly/x179qzn -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Interview-Gael-sur-TV5-tp5785683p5785700.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Interview Gaël sur TV5
mince... j'ai pas vérifié avant d'envoyer... étant donné que je regardais le rugby j'ai pas pris le tps de vérifier le son... -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Interview-Gael-sur-TV5-tp5785683p5785702.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Interview Gaël sur TV5
Le 17/11/2013 à 05:05:57 +1100 rainerU ra...@sfr.fr a écrit Objet: [OSM-talk-fr] Interview Gaël sur TV5 : Am 16.11.2013 15:50, schrieb Christian Quest: Gäel devrait passer vers 18h30 sur TV5 pour parler du mapping OSM aux Philippines. Si quelqu'un pouvait enregistré ça serait cool pour nos archives ! Je l'ai enregistré. Si tu veux, je le mets sur la Dropbox. Moi je veux bien. (en Dropbox ou ailleurs) -- Cordialement Hendrik Oesterlin - Nouvelle-Calédonie ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Interview Gaël sur TV5
la voici avec le son ;-) http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x179twq -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Interview-Gael-sur-TV5-tp5785683p5785712.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Interview Gaël sur TV5
Am 16.11.2013 20:10, schrieb Hendrik Oesterlin: Moi je veux bien. (en Dropbox ou ailleurs) https://www.dropbox.com/s/vsjxvx60fvisi3x/2013-11-16-TV5-720x576.mp4 (720p, 100MB) https://www.dropbox.com/s/61gus9jiw324uqv/2013-11-16-TV5-480x384.mp4 (480p, 50 MB) ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Problème avec des contributions sur Bordeaux
Bonjour, Lors d'une carto-partie au début de l'été à Bordeaux j'ai initié une nouvelle contributrice. Elle c'est mise il n'y a pas long temps à beaucoup contribuer. Elle a aujourd'hui fait 270 changeset avec Potlach. Malheureusement ces contributions sont de qualité assez discutable. Bien que tout ne soit pas à jeter il y beaucoup d'erreur. Notamment elle ne crée pas d'objet et réutilise des nœuds qu'elle trouve. Il y ainsi des arbre-bancs, des arbres-toilettes, des arbres recycle-verres... Elle supprime aussi par mégarde des objets, mais il y aussi des suppressions d'objets qui ont réellement disparu. Sur des zones ou les adresses ont été importé sur un point en façade elle a ajouté le nom de la rue (pas avec la même typo que sur la rue et sur la relation), le code postal, des addr:housename à la place de name ou en plus (avec des typo différentes) et surtout les tags building=*. Elle a tout de même ajouté pas mal de commerces et d'autres POI (sur le point adresse). Parfois un peu trop, elle a aussi crée pas mal de doublon. Malgré mes mails je pense ne pas avoir réussit à lui faire comprendre certaines choses. Je pense qu'elle a toujours du mal avec les concepts de tags et de ways. Elle a arrêté de contribuer jusqu'a la prochaine carto-partie, le semaine prochaine. Il n'en reste pas moins ces 270 changesets, que l'on ne peut pas raisonnablement lui demander de reprendre. J'ai extrait et consolidé tous ces changesets dans un .osc (osm-change), mais il y a trop de chose dedans. Bref, je ne sais pas quoi faire de tout ça. Frédéric (un peu perdu). ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Interview Gaël sur TV5
720x576 c'est pas du 720p... c'est du SD, le 720p c'est 1280x720 ;) 2013/11/16 rainerU ra...@sfr.fr Am 16.11.2013 20:10, schrieb Hendrik Oesterlin: Moi je veux bien. (en Dropbox ou ailleurs) https://www.dropbox.com/s/vsjxvx60fvisi3x/2013-11-16-TV5-720x576.mp4(720p, 100MB) https://www.dropbox.com/s/61gus9jiw324uqv/2013-11-16-TV5-480x384.mp4(480p, 50 MB) ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France Un nouveau serveur pour OSM... http://donate.osm.org/server2013/ ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Problème avec des contributions sur Bordeaux
Sans avoir regardé... si le ratio positif/négatif est franchement négatif je serait plutôt de l'avis de faire un revert et de lui montrer comment contribuer comme il faut. Au final ça sera sûrement pus rapide pour tout le monde, non ? Le 16 novembre 2013 22:29, Frédéric Rodrigo fred.rodr...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour, Lors d'une carto-partie au début de l'été à Bordeaux j'ai initié une nouvelle contributrice. Elle c'est mise il n'y a pas long temps à beaucoup contribuer. Elle a aujourd'hui fait 270 changeset avec Potlach. Malheureusement ces contributions sont de qualité assez discutable. Bien que tout ne soit pas à jeter il y beaucoup d'erreur. Notamment elle ne crée pas d'objet et réutilise des nœuds qu'elle trouve. Il y ainsi des arbre-bancs, des arbres-toilettes, des arbres recycle-verres... Elle supprime aussi par mégarde des objets, mais il y aussi des suppressions d'objets qui ont réellement disparu. Sur des zones ou les adresses ont été importé sur un point en façade elle a ajouté le nom de la rue (pas avec la même typo que sur la rue et sur la relation), le code postal, des addr:housename à la place de name ou en plus (avec des typo différentes) et surtout les tags building=*. Elle a tout de même ajouté pas mal de commerces et d'autres POI (sur le point adresse). Parfois un peu trop, elle a aussi crée pas mal de doublon. Malgré mes mails je pense ne pas avoir réussit à lui faire comprendre certaines choses. Je pense qu'elle a toujours du mal avec les concepts de tags et de ways. Elle a arrêté de contribuer jusqu'a la prochaine carto-partie, le semaine prochaine. Il n'en reste pas moins ces 270 changesets, que l'on ne peut pas raisonnablement lui demander de reprendre. J'ai extrait et consolidé tous ces changesets dans un .osc (osm-change), mais il y a trop de chose dedans. Bref, je ne sais pas quoi faire de tout ça. Frédéric (un peu perdu). ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France Un nouveau serveur pour OSM... http://donate.osm.org/server2013/ ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSRM-talk] Future distance matrix api?
Dennis, To jump on these questions and add on. I know that I would be willing to purchase the distance matrix code as a plugin at this point. A distance matrix would save me a ton of time with what I use OSRM for and my company man hours. If not available for purchase maybe a fund for development time could be arranged. This is my #1 sought after upgrade in the future and so I am sure that I can free up some funds for this if that is the sticking point. Thank you very much, Jacob On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Stephen Woodbridge wood...@swoodbridge.com wrote: Dennis, I know there is a ticket open for the distance matrix functionality and that you have a proprietary implementation. The chatter also seems to indicate that you are working a version for inclusion into Project-OSRM. I have a couple of questions related to this. 1. Do you have a timeframe for when this might get checked into a branch that people can access? 2. Can you share what the server API will look like? This is important for the work I am doing now to integrate OSRM into postgresql because ideally I would like to make my API align with yours so when you release it I can sync up my code with yours in a transparent way. Thanks, -Steve ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk
Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
On 15/11/2013 20:15, Rob Nickerson wrote: (The aim of this email is to provide prior knowledge of an upcoming change to the OSM website and to give you an opportunity to provide constructive feedback) I very much like the fact it is responsive on small screens. Would it be possible to have a dismiss button on the Welcome to OpenStreetMap box (including Learn More and Sign Up, but not including search)? Just like the x on the panels that replace it, e.g. when you search. Perhaps if you dismiss it it could join the green buttons as 'Welcome' to get it back. On iPad and netbooks, this box takes up a substantial part of the screen obscuring the map. Less of a problem on larger screens, but still intrusive if you want to see the whole map. Clearly it is a very important part of the page when the whole point is to promote OSM, but being able to make it go away would be helpful when you're just trying to make use of the map. Why do some of the links in the header have boxes round them and others don't? David ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
On 15/11/2013 20:15, Rob Nickerson wrote: (The aim of this email is to provide prior knowledge of an upcoming change to the OSM website and to give you an opportunity to provide constructive feedback) One other thing... notes are really helpful, and not immediately new though they were introduced on the way to these changes. I have a feed on the whole of my area, but in dealing with these I've seen two problems which I imagine others have too... 1. Some people think they are adding a personal note, not making feedback. (this is kind of analogous to the pervasive problem with Potlatch earlier on where people didn't realise they were live editing the database). I think this would largely go away if the button (on hover, layer toggle caption, and the headline in the new panel) were labelled 'Feedback' or 'Report a problem' 2. Many reports are of 'missing' things, which are already on the map. Many times they haven't zoomed in enough to see the feature (e.g. a 'missing' pub); others it really is missing in the rendering, but not in the data because of the way the renderer randomly drops POIs and captions if they clash with others. Latter is beyond scope of this, but could the text in the salmon box ask them to please zoom in to maximum to make sure it isn't already there? David ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
I wondered when the SOTM-suggested redesign would surface :) For me (regarding the redesigned version): - The mobile website looks better (menus hidden in the typical menu section), though the top title bar could be shrunk a little IMO. - The regular website is better on my little netbook screen a) the wider/shorter search/welcome piece is an improvement, even if simply due to the absence of a vertical scroll bar due to the height of the previous left-hand sidebar. b) I would second (third?) the comment re the ability to 'X' or drop down/up the welcome piece, though when to have it (re)display by default (new window/tab, new session, cookie/duration) isn't clear. c) Another thing is that the Edit box requires log-in, so... is there a reason that the 'log in' isn't the main route to editing, or should it really be greyed out until the user is logged-in (with a hover-tip)? I suppose this is about making people aware that it can be edited (online)? d) Lastly, the same point applies as per the mobile website, that the top white bar is higher/deeper now; it may be more aesthetically pleasing, but for those of us with tiny screens it's a little frustrating? Do we need to forward our comments to the talk list, or is there some other official channel to make comments to? -- Neil On 16 November 2013 18:01, ael law_ence@ntlworld.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 01:36:40PM +, David Earl wrote: On 15/11/2013 20:15, Rob Nickerson wrote: (The aim of this email is to provide prior knowledge of an upcoming change to the OSM website and to give you an opportunity to provide constructive feedback) Would it be possible to have a dismiss button on the Welcome to OpenStreetMap box (including Learn More and Sign Up, but not including search)? Just like the x on the panels that replace it, e.g. when you search. Perhaps if you dismiss it it could join the green buttons as 'Welcome' to get it back. On iPad and netbooks, this box takes up a substantial part of the screen obscuring the map. Less of a problem on larger screens, but still intrusive if you want to see the whole map. Clearly it is a very important part of the page when the whole point is to promote OSM, but being able to make it go away would be helpful when you're just trying to make use of the map. +1 ael ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
+2 Regards Nick On 16/11/13 18:01, ael wrote: On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 01:36:40PM +, David Earl wrote: On 15/11/2013 20:15, Rob Nickerson wrote: (The aim of this email is to provide prior knowledge of an upcoming change to the OSM website and to give you an opportunity to provide constructive feedback) Would it be possible to have a dismiss button on the Welcome to OpenStreetMap box (including Learn More and Sign Up, but not including search)? Just like the x on the panels that replace it, e.g. when you search. Perhaps if you dismiss it it could join the green buttons as 'Welcome' to get it back. On iPad and netbooks, this box takes up a substantial part of the screen obscuring the map. Less of a problem on larger screens, but still intrusive if you want to see the whole map. Clearly it is a very important part of the page when the whole point is to promote OSM, but being able to make it go away would be helpful when you're just trying to make use of the map. +1 ael ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
The Welcome box doesn't linger once you've logged in, so in a way having it in the way may encourage some to join and login? Jonathan http://bigfatfrog67.me On 16/11/2013 18:01, ael wrote: On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 01:36:40PM +, David Earl wrote: On 15/11/2013 20:15, Rob Nickerson wrote: (The aim of this email is to provide prior knowledge of an upcoming change to the OSM website and to give you an opportunity to provide constructive feedback) Would it be possible to have a dismiss button on the Welcome to OpenStreetMap box (including Learn More and Sign Up, but not including search)? Just like the x on the panels that replace it, e.g. when you search. Perhaps if you dismiss it it could join the green buttons as 'Welcome' to get it back. On iPad and netbooks, this box takes up a substantial part of the screen obscuring the map. Less of a problem on larger screens, but still intrusive if you want to see the whole map. Clearly it is a very important part of the page when the whole point is to promote OSM, but being able to make it go away would be helpful when you're just trying to make use of the map. +1 ael ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
Thanks for all the comments so far. I will communicate them back to the github pull request [1] on your behalf. In regards to the comment about wanting a [x] button on the welcome text, it does disappear for logged in users and small screen devices. As for non logged in users this request has been raised already. I will mention that it has been brought up again, but I wouldn't hold out much hope for this one to change. The previous response was that it provides a nice impetus to create an account. :) Regards, Rob [1] https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/498#issuecomment-28309700 ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 09:45:57PM +, Rob Nickerson wrote: In regards to the comment about wanting a [x] button on the welcome text, it does disappear for logged in users and small screen devices. As for non logged in users this request has been raised already. I will mention that it has been brought up again, but I wouldn't hold out much hope for this one to change. The previous response was that it provides a nice impetus to create an account. :) That's just silly - the previous response. Why should one waste time logging in even if already a contributor when just wanting to *use* the map? Potential contributors will want to be convinced that the map is useful before being motivated to join. ael ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
On 16/11/13 19:01, Neil Pilgrim wrote: c) Another thing is that the Edit box requires log-in, so... is there a reason that the 'log in' isn't the main route to editing, or should it really be greyed out until the user is logged-in (with a hover-tip)? I suppose this is about making people aware that it can be edited (online)? There's no change in behaviour here is there? The edit link presumably still takes you to the login screen if you're note already logged in just as it does now. Surely that is more user friendly than disabling it and making people guess that they need to login to enable it? In any case, if it isn't a regression then it's out of scope as a bug report against the redesign. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
On 16/11/13 23:19, ael wrote: On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 09:45:57PM +, Rob Nickerson wrote: In regards to the comment about wanting a [x] button on the welcome text, it does disappear for logged in users and small screen devices. As for non logged in users this request has been raised already. I will mention that it has been brought up again, but I wouldn't hold out much hope for this one to change. The previous response was that it provides a nice impetus to create an account. :) That's just silly - the previous response. Why should one waste time logging in even if already a contributor when just wanting to *use* the map? The point is that just using the map is not our target audience. As has been said many times, we are not trying to be an end user mapping site that offers a Google Maps alternative for the masses. Our target audience is people that want to signup and contribute. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-us] OSM passion gush
A center of my universe right now are national bicycle routes. Check the simply poppin' status table at our WikiProject page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_U.S._Bicycle_Route_System#Proposed_USBRs_in_OSM Especially with our local connection of a new bike bridge shovel-begun yesterday. You know, one of those photo opportunities with the grinning council members in hard hats, steam-shovel in the background (but not the black clad, sign carrying, otherwise silent bye bye greenbelt folks). There IS always lively conversation around here. Seriously, national bike routes are totally charged with electric lightning right now. New routes seed, grow and visually feed back. This is truly a wide (national, statewide, locally) visual conversation done partly geographically. So far, so good. Useful map we have here! SteveA California ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Advice On Data Removal Problem
So there is a fairly new mapper in the Phoenix area removing valid data. I would like advice on what to do. I don't to want dampen this mapper's efforts. However, another mapper has complained to me about the problem as this mapper has removed both of our work. Change set http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/18867333 is an example where CartoCrazy even uses a change set description of Cleaned up clutter of pedestrian crossing markers,... I am all for data revisions but this is an example of vandalism where the mapper doesn't realize that highway crossings are valid map data. The damage isn't limited to highway crossings. I could go and revert all of his change sets but that would start other problems. Please Advise, Greg ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Advice On Data Removal Problem
Have you spoken with the offending mapper about your concerns? In particular, I'd remind him of the maxim of Don't torque the data for a specific renderer. On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Greg Morgan dr.kludge...@gmail.com wrote: So there is a fairly new mapper in the Phoenix area removing valid data. I would like advice on what to do. I don't to want dampen this mapper's efforts. However, another mapper has complained to me about the problem as this mapper has removed both of our work. Change set http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/18867333 is an example where CartoCrazy even uses a change set description of Cleaned up clutter of pedestrian crossing markers,... I am all for data revisions but this is an example of vandalism where the mapper doesn't realize that highway crossings are valid map data. The damage isn't limited to highway crossings. I could go and revert all of his change sets but that would start other problems. Please Advise, Greg ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Advice On Data Removal Problem
I sent him a note back at the beginning of September concerning the problem. I don't think he's even worried about map rendering. I am guessing it is more about what he feels should be in the map. As a by product, I've seen landuses being removed too. On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: Have you spoken with the offending mapper about your concerns? In particular, I'd remind him of the maxim of Don't torque the data for a specific renderer. On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Greg Morgan dr.kludge...@gmail.comwrote: So there is a fairly new mapper in the Phoenix area removing valid data. I would like advice on what to do. I don't to want dampen this mapper's efforts. However, another mapper has complained to me about the problem as this mapper has removed both of our work. Change set http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/18867333 is an example where CartoCrazy even uses a change set description of Cleaned up clutter of pedestrian crossing markers,... I am all for data revisions but this is an example of vandalism where the mapper doesn't realize that highway crossings are valid map data. The damage isn't limited to highway crossings. I could go and revert all of his change sets but that would start other problems. Please Advise, Greg ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
