Re: [talk-au] TMR Road Centerlines dataset
Yay! -Original Message- From: Andrew Harvey Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2018 9:26 PM To: OSM Australian Talk List Subject: [talk-au] TMR Road Centerlines dataset I just got the permission waiver for the QLD Transport and Main Roads surveyed centerline dataset, *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] A question about the license that applies to a product from OSM data
Hello all, I have a question about applying the ODbL. I can take this to the legal list, but I am hoping there is a quick and easy answer. Some contractors working for my organisation are building a network model for Queensland using OSM data. The model is for routing, and has value-added attributes, for example, weighting of particular routes. My question is, does the ODbL apply to this result? Or is attribution "raw data was sourced from OpenStreetMap" sufficient? Thanks, Nick Lawrence Senior Spatial Science Officer Geospatial Technologies 07 3066 7977 *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Ozie windmills
>Navel glazing ? >Are not windmills bores? Simply powered by the wind. Some windmills might actually be mills? Which means they mill grain? (grind into flour) Cheers, Nick Lawrence *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Making the case for ODbL licensing of state government open data
Hello Australia OSM, I am a spatial science officer in Qld Transport and Main Roads, involved in the provision of Open Data for public consumption. Our data is generally released under a CC-BY license, but I have an opportunity to make a case for the ODbL to be a license option. Currently data custodians choose a license from a list of pre-approved licenses, and I am hoping to add ODbL to that list. But first I have to put forward a clear case why this should be considered. Is there a clear argument written down somewhere I can refer to? Also, I am not clear on the incompatibilities between ODbL and specific types of CC licenses. For example, is CC-BY compatible whilst CC-BY-SA not compatible? How about CC-0? Thanks, Nick Lawrence *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites
Whilst the provision of tea & coffee is certainly temporary, the off-road parking, picnic tables, and so on... are most likely permanent and count as a Rest Area. Cheers, Nick Lawrence -Original Message- From: Warin [mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 24 April 2017 11:33 AM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites On 24-Apr-17 09:47 AM, Nicholas G Lawrence wrote: > > There are also Driver Reviver spots which may also be useful to capture? > > Cheers, > Nick Lawrence > > I see 'Driver Reviver' as temporary - usually a holiday peak thing manned by a local charity (Rotary etc). They also appear in 'rest areas'. Don't know that they would be seen as 'permanent' enough for OSM? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites
Following on, I should point out that Qld TMR's view of Rest Areas is that they are a safety feature of the roads, specifically to combat fatigue, which makes them different to camp sites. Cheers, Nick Lawrence -Original Message- From: Nicholas G Lawrence [mailto:nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au] Sent: Monday, 24 April 2017 9:48 AM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites Quoting from the "Guide to Queensland Roads" by Queensland Department of Transport and Main Roads. "Motorist Rest Areas - Rest areas are there for you to stop and rest, making your trip safer and more enjoyable. - Rest areas are not long-term camping sites. However motorists are able to take extended rest breaks at some sites. - Rules on the length of stay at rest areas vary between controlling authorities - Motorists can stay up to 20 hours, including overnight, at some Transport and Main Roads rest areas shown in blue. - Caravans and motorhomes are not considered heavy vehicles, and should not stop at heavy vehicle locations. - Motorists cannot stay overnight at Transport and Main Roads rest areas shown in red." I should also point out that some rest areas are for Motorists, some for Heavy Vehicles, and some cater for both. There are also Driver Reviver spots which may also be useful to capture? Cheers, Nick Lawrence -Original Message- From: cleary [mailto:o...@97k.com] Sent: Saturday, 22 April 2017 10:28 AM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites I draw a parallel with other amenities. Some cafes are licensed to sell limited alcohol but that does not make them pubs; and some pubs serve coffee but that does not make them cafes. And both cafes and pubs often serve food. While there can be overlap in services provided by amenities, map users are best served by the use of terms that help them understand the main purpose of the amenity. I share the concern about confusing rest areas and camping sites. To the average person, "rest areas" are for relatively shorter stays, perhaps just half an hour or sometimes overnight but not for longer periods. In contrast "camping sites" can be for just one night but are more commonly used for longer stays. Areas by the side of roads are "rest areas" and are usually signposted as such. I think it better that roadside rest areas be labelled as "rest area" in OSM with additional tags used to add detail about specific facilities etc available at the rest area. On Fri, Apr 21, 2017, at 09:50 PM, Warin wrote: > On 21-Apr-17 07:40 PM, David Bannon wrote: > > On 20/04/17 19:50, Warin wrote: > >> > >> Thanks. Sometimes my 'plain English' understanding gets the better > >> of the 'OSM meanings'! > > Hmm, I think people in caravans do think they are camping. If there > > is a sign, "no camping" we assume it means no caravans too. > > True. > The 'officials' seam to be thinking that a single over night 'rest' is > fine, but multiple nights = camping and that is not fine.. at least > that is my impression from the grey nomads site. > Anyone trying to turf someone 'resting due to fatigue' - even > overnight > - would be on thin ground before a reasonable court as we are advised > to 'rest' when tired. > > > >> a) I do think that 'rest areas' should be tagged using the rest > >> area tag. > > Honestly, I have never tagged a rest area. I go straight to thinking > > of it as a potential camp site, if not, I don't bother. Sorry > > So I just read the rest_area key and I must say, its not really very > > useful IMHO. As its a key to highway= it needs to be applied to a > > way and not the surrounding area perhaps ? Generally people don't > > camp on the drive through part but off the side. Mind you, have see > > a few people who have just stopped, closed the curtains and nod off ! > > Arr .. yes well the key has never been 'discussed', just put up by a > mapper. Presently it is shown as applying to nodes and areas, not ways > .. but if you go to the talk page you'll see some comments there > (including mine). > Better include a link for those that want a look > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Drest_area > > >> > >> b) Using the tag 'tourism=camp_site' to me implies that I should be > >> able to set up a tent there. > > Thats because you think "camp" means tent only. We've established > > that people camp using all sorts of infrastructure. Even truckies > > talk about 'camping' at some place or another. > > > You have made your point there. But I would find it strange to go to a > 'camp site' and be unable
Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites
Quoting from the "Guide to Queensland Roads" by Queensland Department of Transport and Main Roads. "Motorist Rest Areas - Rest areas are there for you to stop and rest, making your trip safer and more enjoyable. - Rest areas are not long-term camping sites. However motorists are able to take extended rest breaks at some sites. - Rules on the length of stay at rest areas vary between controlling authorities - Motorists can stay up to 20 hours, including overnight, at some Transport and Main Roads rest areas shown in blue. - Caravans and motorhomes are not considered heavy vehicles, and should not stop at heavy vehicle locations. - Motorists cannot stay overnight at Transport and Main Roads rest areas shown in red." I should also point out that some rest areas are for Motorists, some for Heavy Vehicles, and some cater for both. There are also Driver Reviver spots which may also be useful to capture? Cheers, Nick Lawrence -Original Message- From: cleary [mailto:o...@97k.com] Sent: Saturday, 22 April 2017 10:28 AM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites I draw a parallel with other amenities. Some cafes are licensed to sell limited alcohol but that does not make them pubs; and some pubs serve coffee but that does not make them cafes. And both cafes and pubs often serve food. While there can be overlap in services provided by amenities, map users are best served by the use of terms that help them understand the main purpose of the amenity. I share the concern about confusing rest areas and camping sites. To the average person, "rest areas" are for relatively shorter stays, perhaps just half an hour or sometimes overnight but not for longer periods. In contrast "camping sites" can be for just one night but are more commonly used for longer stays. Areas by the side of roads are "rest areas" and are usually signposted as such. I think it better that roadside rest areas be labelled as "rest area" in OSM with additional tags used to add detail about specific facilities etc available at the rest area. On Fri, Apr 21, 2017, at 09:50 PM, Warin wrote: > On 21-Apr-17 07:40 PM, David Bannon wrote: > > On 20/04/17 19:50, Warin wrote: > >> > >> Thanks. Sometimes my 'plain English' understanding gets the better > >> of the 'OSM meanings'! > > Hmm, I think people in caravans do think they are camping. If there > > is a sign, "no camping" we assume it means no caravans too. > > True. > The 'officials' seam to be thinking that a single over night 'rest' is > fine, but multiple nights = camping and that is not fine.. at least > that is my impression from the grey nomads site. > Anyone trying to turf someone 'resting due to fatigue' - even > overnight > - would be on thin ground before a reasonable court as we are advised > to 'rest' when tired. > > > >> a) I do think that 'rest areas' should be tagged using the rest > >> area tag. > > Honestly, I have never tagged a rest area. I go straight to thinking > > of it as a potential camp site, if not, I don't bother. Sorry > > So I just read the rest_area key and I must say, its not really very > > useful IMHO. As its a key to highway= it needs to be applied to a > > way and not the surrounding area perhaps ? Generally people don't > > camp on the drive through part but off the side. Mind you, have see > > a few people who have just stopped, closed the curtains and nod off ! > > Arr .. yes well the key has never been 'discussed', just put up by a > mapper. Presently it is shown as applying to nodes and areas, not ways > .. but if you go to the talk page you'll see some comments there > (including mine). > Better include a link for those that want a look > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Drest_area > > >> > >> b) Using the tag 'tourism=camp_site' to me implies that I should be > >> able to set up a tent there. > > Thats because you think "camp" means tent only. We've established > > that people camp using all sorts of infrastructure. Even truckies > > talk about 'camping' at some place or another. > > > You have made your point there. But I would find it strange to go to a > 'camp site' and be unable to pitch a tent because it was unsuitable. > Think you'd find it strange to go to a camp site that did not have > space for a caravan? :) Quite a few rest areas don't have suitable > tent areas. A caravan only needs a longer parking space. > > >> c) If they are appropriate for caravans/camper vans then there is > >> the caravan_site or caravan=yes tag that would better represent the > >> features facility? > > I don't use tourism=caravan_site because I consider =camp_site more > > appropriate there being so many similarities and little point in > > distinguishing. But I do use caravan=yes/no as a key to > > tourism=camp_site. In deference to your good self, I might use > > tent=yes/no a bit more often now :-) > Thanks ... I have
Re: [OSM-talk] Layers and landuse
-Original Message- From: Florian Lohoff [mailto:f...@zz.de] Sent: Tuesday, 30 June 2015 3:52 AM To: Lester Caine Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Layers and landuse On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 11:49:21AM +0100, Lester Caine wrote: On 29/06/15 10:59, Florian Lohoff wrote: I consider layer=* on landuse as beeing broken. If you need to cut out a part of an landuse thats what a multipolygon is for. For me landuses may not overlap. As a goal for the future, a 'plane' of data that has a single landuse classification for every point would be nice. This would be useful for the sea / land / coastline issues... Nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Howto tag a prominent dead tree?
Subject: [OSM-talk] Howto tag a prominent dead tree? Hi, this must have come up before... any ideas? What does prominent mean? If the dead tree has some cultural or historical significance, then it could be placed in the same category as, for example, a statue or other form of art for public consumption. nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[talk-au] street addressing city or suburb?
Hi all, What is the convention for tagging an address for a residential property in a suburb (Coorparoo) in a city (Brisbane)? addr:city = Brisbane Or addr:city = Coorparoo Or addr:suburb = Coorparoo Which is best for navigation and routing? Cheers Nick Lawrence Senior Spatial Science Officer (Geospatial Technologies) Engineering Technology | Department of Transport and Main Roads Floor 19 | 313 Adelaide Street | Brisbane Qld 4000 GPO Box 1412 | Brisbane Qld 4001 P: (07) 30667977 E: nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au W: www.tmr.qld.gov.auhttp://www.tmr.qld.gov.au *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Tagging natural or informal swimming holes?
Forgetting the tagging for a moment, is it not irresponsible to be mapping and thus being seen as encouraging such activities? Every year when there is hot weather there are warnings not to swim in lakes and rivers, and these are inevitably followed by reports in the media of a tragic loss of life. The last thing OSM needs is to be seen as contributing to such tragedies. Phil (trigpoint) If the swimming hole is a known local landmark, then it is a valid feature for navigation. Especially if an accident does occur and the ambulance or others need to dive quickly to the water hole. nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads
For example if a farm field was mapped this way then any barrier for it, such as hedge, gate etc, would appear to be on the road as well. So, for a polygon, the boundary can be tagged for a barrier that completely encircles the polygon? Is this all that common? In my experience the barrier is dependant upon the neighbouring polygon. Often a residential property will have fences on the rear and two sides, but no fence to the front. I guess in this case each side would have to be a separate line object? nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] NY times article about Google maps and OSM
I did not see this linked on this list, so here you go: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/15/magazine/googles-plan-for-global- domination-dont-ask-why-ask-where.html?_r=0 page 6 of 8, second paragraph The O.S.M. map data is free now - but using it comes with a catch. Any improvement, or any change at all, that a developer makes to O.S.M.'s map must be sent back to O.S.M. Is this an accurate description of OSM's licensing? The rest of the article is rather disparaging of OSM, implying that OSM is cheap, lacks detail and has a hidden agenda. nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Admin boundaries - data consumers
On 11/11/2013 06:02 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I think it is an interesting proposal to put an alternative mapstyle on osm.org without the admin boundaries. While a map without borders is quite a powerful philosophical statement, is it really part of Openstreetmap's core role ? As Christian said, let users answer their political and artistic urges through using the Openstreetmap data - let a thousand renders bloom ! A new map style as a core service would be yet another nitpicking topic, mired in mailing list discussions... Openstreetmap's strength is that only the data requires consensus - each user has the freedom to produce his ideal rendering of the data without having to ask anyone's permission... Let them take advantage of it ! So, someone could build a renderer for openbordermap? nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Admin borders/separate database
If we agree that borders are a problem, then what is the best solution? Do you mean borders are a problem in general, or are there specific problems related to specific borders like those mentioned in this thread? I'd argue that the GIS community has already decided that layers are the solution. QGIS, open source gis software, already handles layers much like ESRI. JOSM even handles layers. IMHO osm is post-layers ;-) This is quite a fascinating statement. Is there any content on the web describing the concept of a post-layer GIS in more detail? nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Converting OSM roads to GIS dataset (Queensland, Australia)
Hello all, I'm trying to convert the Queensland, Australia OSM roads into a GIS format (esri shape or mapinfo) using GDAL 1.10 I downloaded a .osm.pbf file for australia from http://download.geofabrik.de/australia-oceania/australia.html I'm only really after the geometry that represents roads. So I don't need the points or polygons. Does anyone have any suggestions about any arguments I can put into my GDAL command to restrict translation to only what I consider relevant? For example, the argument -spat 136 -31 156 should restrict import to a bounding box that approximately represents Qld. I would appreciate advice on; - what geometry layer suits my purposes - how to specify that in a GDAL argument Kind regards, Nick Lawrence Senior Spatial Science Officer| Geospatial, Road Design Competency Engineering Technology Branch| Department of Transport and Main Roads Floor 19 | Brisbane City - 313 Adelaide Street | 313 Adelaide Street | Brisbane City Qld 4000 GPO Box 1412 | Brisbane City Qld 4001 P: (07) 30667977 | F: (07) 30668998 E: nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au W: www.tmr.qld.gov.au *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[talk-au] Converting OSM roads to GIS dataset (Queensland, Australia)
Hello all, I'm trying to convert the Queensland, Australia OSM roads into a GIS format (esri shape or mapinfo) using GDAL 1.10 I downloaded a .osm.pbf file for australia from http://download.geofabrik.de/australia-oceania/australia.html I'm only really after the geometry that represents roads. So I don't need the points or polygons. Does anyone have any suggestions about any arguments I can put into my GDAL command to restrict translation to only what I consider relevant? For example, the argument -spat 136 -31 156 should restrict import to a bounding box that approximately represents Qld. I would appreciate advice on; - what geometry layer suits my purposes - how to specify that in a GDAL argument Kind regards, Nick Lawrence Senior Spatial Science Officer| Geospatial, Road Design Competency Engineering Technology Branch| Department of Transport and Main Roads Floor 19 | Brisbane City - 313 Adelaide Street | 313 Adelaide Street | Brisbane City Qld 4000 GPO Box 1412 | Brisbane City Qld 4001 P: (07) 30667977 | F: (07) 30668998 E: nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au W: www.tmr.qld.gov.au *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [OSM-talk] Double-clicking on OSM map does not centre the map
On 2013-07-22 06:33, John Firebaugh wrote: The rationale for making the change in Leaflet is to make it so that you can zoom in several levels on a given point without needing to reposition your cursor at each zoom level. For that reason, I prefer the new behavior. Zooming in by using the scroll-wheel did the same in the old framework. Basically the new framework removes functionality. I don't think that's a good idea. I hadn't noticed this yet, but IMHO it's a bad thing. There are occasions when I am looking for a particular point to be the map center. Dragging the map to the center is no solution because my sight is not absolute and I do not know what the center of my browserscreen is. So what you are really asking for is a centre the map on this point function? nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [talk-au] Newcastle Inner Bypass - Motorway or not ?
Any thoughts on whether the completed sections of the Newcastle Inner City Bypass (now being referred to by the RMS as A37 - Newcastle Outer Ring Road) should be classified as type Motorway …? If they're calling it A37 then they're not calling it a motorway. Could you just ask the relevant state authority? nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Historical rail lines
Abandoned makes it sounds like there are tracks in place for the length of the line, just no trains running on it. Is ruined a tag? nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [OSM-talk] What to call OSM data?
So for example crowdsourced infromation, volunteered geographic information, non-authoritative data, or something else? Crowdsourced non-authoritative geographic data ? I'm personally not sure I agree with the non-authoritative part. Instead of non-authoritative I prefer the term asserted It refers to how several people can assert that the data entered by someone else is correct. Nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Is CC0 data compatible with ODBL?
Trying to find this answer on the wiki, but I can't. Is CC0 data compatible with ODBL? Kind regards, Nick Lawrence Senior Spatial Science Officer| Geospatial, Road Design Competency Engineering Technology Branch| Department of Transport and Main Roads Floor 6 | Spring Hill Office Complex | 477 Boundary Street | Spring Hill Qld 4000 GPO Box 1412 | Brisbane Qld 4001 P: (07) 30667977 | F: (07) 30668998 E: nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au W: www.tmr.qld.gov.au *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Tagging of building footprints
I check out my place of work in openstreetmap. I am a bit confused that the building (a tower of offices) is represented twice. There is a large building footprint over the entire grounds that is tagged Offices and inside this is a smaller building footprint tagged Building. Now, the large footprint includes carparks and gardens, so I don't consider it to be a genuine building footprint. Would it be valid to get rid of the large, outer footprint? And, should the smaller footprint be tagged twice, as both a office and a building? Or does the tag Office imply that it is a Building anyway? Kind regards, Nick Lawrence Senior Spatial Science Officer| Geospatial, Road Design Competency Engineering Technology Branch| Department of Transport and Main Roads Floor 6 | Spring Hill Office Complex | 477 Boundary Street | Spring Hill Qld 4000 GPO Box 1412 | Brisbane Qld 4001 P: (07) 30667977 | F: (07) 30668998 E: nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au W: www.tmr.qld.gov.au *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging of building footprints
I check out my place of work in openstreetmap. I am a bit confused that the building (a tower of offices) is represented twice. There is a large building footprint over the entire grounds that is tagged Offices and inside this is a smaller building footprint tagged Building. Now, the large footprint includes carparks and gardens, so I don't consider it to be a genuine building footprint. Would it be valid to get rid of the large, outer footprint? And, should the smaller footprint be tagged twice, as both a office and a building? Or does the tag Office imply that it is a Building anyway? Offices and Building are the simplified representations of the real tagging some people think make things clearer for new people, but are actually causing confusion like here. Click on Advanced in the lower left corner or press T to see the real tagging. The big polygon Offices has the real tag landuse=commercial, so it is not a building outline. The smaller polygon Building has the tag building=yes. You can also specify what kind of building it is in the Basic tab. If you pick Office building the smaller polygon gets the real tag building=office. In other words don't delete the one off the polygons, as they map different concepts. Ah, I see that slightly to the north west is a school where the school grounds are one big polygon and the individual buildings are building footprints. So that's a good example. I look at the tags for the building footprint in the Basic tab, and I get the option of Building and Public Building but I don't see the tag Office Building So the tags for the smaller polygon are; building = yes amenity = public_building Which I suppose is correct, since the offices are government offices? Or is amenity = public_building reserved for stuff like museums, art galleries and libraries? Cheers, Nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 65, Issue 24
Hi all, Mike from TMR got in touch with me this morning reversing his statement about using tourist route information on local council maps, see below. I haven't used them to add anything to OSM anyway. Hi Wil, Unfortunately your posting on Open Street Map has caused me some grief! It seems I was not correct in thinking that the maps I provided as reference material in PDF form can be freely used. Those on my GIS section with a greater understanding of copyright matters have decreed that copyright does actually exists over this information and therefore it cannot be made available to Open Street Maps. name, one of my GIS associates, can provide more information on copyright matters pertaining to this data if you wish to discuss possibilities but it seems likely that it will not be possible to use this data in the way you envisaged in the short term at least. You can reach name on number. My apologies for the confusion, but would you please update your posting to withdraw the expectation that the route marking information I provided can be made available to Open Street Map Kind regards, Mike Just to clarify, I am the name that was redacted. :-) Cheers, Nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Aboriginal sacred sites
It is an interesting issue. Military bases and nuclear facilities are often fully mapped in OSM, but often the location of many Aboriginal carvings and sensitive areas etc, are not. It is my understanding that for some tribes even the location of sacred sites is only available to initiated members of the tribe and only recognisable to those initiates. This makes them rather difficult to map whereas military and nuclear sites are usually recognisable on remote sensing images. I was told that there is a real danger of aboriginal sacred sites being vandalised. Keeping their location a secret is an attempt to avoid them being destroyed. Nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, Maritime Safety Queensland or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[OSM-talk] map of impact of licence change on Australia and New Zealand
Hello all, I would like to generate a map showing the impact of the license change on Australia and New Zealand. Any advice on how to generate such a map? Kind regards, Nick Lawrence Senior Spatial Science Officer| Geospatial, Road Assets Design Engineering Technology| Department of Transport and Main Roads Floor 6 | Spring Hill Office Complex | 477 Boundary Street | Spring Hill Qld 4000 GPO Box 1412 | Brisbane Qld 4001 P: (07) 38342477 | F: (07) 38342998 E: nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au W: www.tmr.qld.gov.au *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, Maritime Safety Queensland or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] OSM Inspector is not working?
Is OSM Inspector working? There appears to a Layer problem error? Kind regards, Nick Lawrence Senior Spatial Science Officer| Geospatial, Road Assets Design Engineering Technology| Department of Transport and Main Roads Floor 6 | Spring Hill Office Complex | 477 Boundary Street | Spring Hill Qld 4000 GPO Box 1412 | Brisbane Qld 4001 P: (07) 38342477 | F: (07) 38342998 E: nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au W: www.tmr.qld.gov.au *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, Maritime Safety Queensland or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[talk-au] map of impact of licence change on Australia and New Zealand
Hello all, I would like to generate a map showing the impact of the license change on Australia and New Zealand. Any advice on how to generate such a map? Kind regards, Nick Lawrence Senior Spatial Science Officer| Geospatial, Road Assets Design Engineering Technology| Department of Transport and Main Roads Floor 6 | Spring Hill Office Complex | 477 Boundary Street | Spring Hill Qld 4000 GPO Box 1412 | Brisbane Qld 4001 P: (07) 38342477 | F: (07) 38342998 E: nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au W: www.tmr.qld.gov.au *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, Maritime Safety Queensland or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] OSM Inspector is not working?
Is OSM Inspector working? There appears to a Layer problem error? Kind regards, Nick Lawrence Senior Spatial Science Officer| Geospatial, Road Assets Design Engineering Technology| Department of Transport and Main Roads Floor 6 | Spring Hill Office Complex | 477 Boundary Street | Spring Hill Qld 4000 GPO Box 1412 | Brisbane Qld 4001 P: (07) 38342477 | F: (07) 38342998 E: nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au W: www.tmr.qld.gov.au *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, Maritime Safety Queensland or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] map of impact of licence change on Australia and New Zealand
It really depends on what you want to visualize. None of the available tools give an 100% exact picture (simply because that would have required setting up a clone of the main DB and essentially carrying out the redaction on it). The shape files from Frederiks OSMI layer are available, however I'm not quite sure if everything is working right now due to the couple of hiccups the redaction process has caused in the diff generation (the mechanism we use to sync with the main DB). I wasn't after anything too exact, just a quick summary. I thought OSM Inspector would be ideal, because it would show the bad spots in red. But the License Change option in the drop down view does not load the map, it just sits there churning. Is that the hiccups you refer to? nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, Maritime Safety Queensland or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [OSM-talk] New editors
But one newbie deleted about 300 streets, seemingly for a wedding-related event map :-( ... I couldn't help laughing, that's actually pretty funny. Did you contact the user? Yes, I sent a message, but got no reply. Perhaps they were too embarrassed, so the revert will be initiated. It would be funny to get the printed wedding invitation, containing just the remaining major streets! This kind of wedding map edit actually happened to my country in 2010. :-) http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2010-June/002314.html I wonder what the intent of the user was? It appears to me that they were attempting to create a certain type of map by altering the data. Here on the list we would argue that the issue the user is tackling is a rendering issue, not a data issue. Is this a clue to a different way of rendering? In the same way that streetmap and cyclemap have the same data but produce different looking maps? Perhaps a renderer could make a weddingmap :-D It could work by having the user center the map on their one point of interest, and then the rendering process would have high detail around that center point, but have the detail drop off successively the greater the distance from the center point. So minor streets around the wedding venue would be rendered because that is useful for navigation and parking. But minor streets further away from the venue would not be rendered, because the intent is to highlight only the chosen point of interest and major transportation routes to that point. nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, Maritime Safety Queensland or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Contact And Remap Campaign
Possibility of considering undecided as accepted (if they don't respond) Completely not going to happen. Anyone suggesting that needs to read some law. You absolutely cannot do that [1]. I accepted the license, and also ticked the box that said I was happy with my contributions to be considered public domain. Hypothetically, if some years in the future, OSMF proposed a switch to public domain, can they assume my acceptance from that? nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, Maritime Safety Queensland or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] problem with OSMAND UI
Hi, I've got a problem with the OSMAND UI on my HTC Legend. When I do a Search for a location, defined by a Lat/Long where I want to type in the co-ordinates, the number keypad completely obscures the entry fields for Lat and Long, so I can't even see what I'm typing. This prevents me from entering a Lat/Long co-ord and zooming to that location. Kind regards, Nicholas Lawrence Geographic Information Systems Coordinator | Geospatial, Road Assets Design Engineering Technology Division | Department of Transport and Main Roads Floor 6 | Spring Hill Office Complex | 477 Boundary Street | Spring Hill Qld 4000 GPO Box 1412 | Brisbane Qld 4001 P: (07) 38342477 | F: (07) 38342998 E: nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au W: www.tmr.qld.gov.au Tomorrow's Queensland: strong, green, smart, healthy and fair – www.towardQ2.qld.gov.au P| Please consider the environment before printing this email *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, Maritime Safety Queensland or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] raw osm data to GML
Hi, I'm looking at the wiki about converting osm raw data to GML format (for processing further into either shapefile or mapinfo table), and the wiki page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GML says that the software may be incompatible with API v0.6 from 2009? Is this still a problem? Has it been fixed? Kind regards, Nicholas Lawrence Senior Spatial Science Officer | Darling Downs Region / Toowoomba Office Assets Operations Division | Department of Transport and Main Roads Floor 1 | Toowoomba - Phillip Street | 1-5 Phillip Street (cnr Clopton Street) | Toowoomba Qld 4350 PO Box 645 | Toowoomba Qld 4350 P: (07) 46390764 | F: (07) 46390750 E: nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au W: www.tmr.qld.gov.au Tomorrow's Queensland: strong, green, smart, healthy and fair – www.towardQ2.qld.gov.au P| Please consider the environment before printing this email *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, Maritime Safety Queensland or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Satellite Sentinel Project Uses Commercial Satellite Imagery to Monitor Sudanese Conflict
I just got my edition of GIS Weekly Review, which highlights a mapping project using satellite imagery in southern Sudan, which is in the process of seccession. Is this anything for OSM to look at? There appears to be a huminitarian involvement in the effort of collecting imagery. Cheers, nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, Maritime Safety Queensland or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: collateral damage
Anthony wrote: After admitting to tracing from Google imagery, you refused to tell which objects were involved. Oh my God. How many times do I have to say this? NO OBJECTS WEREINVOLVED. I don't understand how you can both admit tracing from Google imagery and at the same time tell us that your actions did not impact OpenStreetMap data. I'm afraid that my communications skills are not up to the task - or maybe I'm just tired as it is way past bedtime for me. So I'm going to sleep and we'll see if others can meanwhile lead this discussion to some modicum of mutual understanding between you and the rest of the participants... Anthony, when you traced from google imagery, what went into OSM? was it nodes? tags? something else? nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, Maritime Safety Queensland or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: collateral damage
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 8:54 PM, nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au wrote: Anthony, when you traced from google imagery, what went into OSM? Nothing. So why did you say that you had traced from google imagery in the first place? (if nothing went into OSM) nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, Maritime Safety Queensland or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: collateral damage (was: What the license change is going to do to the map)
* Anthony goes on to have in his possession simultaneously tea and no tea, thereby solving one of the stickier puzzle in the Hitch-hiker's Guide to the Galaxy text adventure game[1]. Go Anthony! Was there ever a sequel to that text adventure? It kind of ended on a cliff-hanger ... nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, Maritime Safety Queensland or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: collateral damage (was: What the license change is going to do to the map)
On 11 February 2011 02:05, nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au wrote: Was there ever a sequel to that text adventure? It kind of ended on a cliff-hanger ... Well there was a crucial bit where the protagonist left the planet... Last bit I remember, the protagonist left the spaceship to go onto the planet ... what happened after that? nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, Maritime Safety Queensland or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New tool in Potlatch 2 for areas that share a way
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:13 PM, nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au wrote: Risk assessment and hazards are also relevant. The grassy area next to a steel mill might not be plain old grass, who knows what has been stored there and what kind of hazards, from chemicals to rusty nails are left behind? Certainly that information is of use to someone, but I don't think OSM should try and be all things to all people. For starters, we simply don't have the manpower. In the Australian context, it looks like we might be able to do better than Google Maps, but having more information than Melway/Brisway/... will be a real challenge. Adding on the difficulty of the kinds of things you're talking about (plus everyone else's pet interests, like accessibility, micromapping, ...) is essentially impossible without a massive influx of contributors. Steve What I meant was, by tagging the larger area as industrial and _not_ micro-mapping it as grass, you have a tag (industrial) that implies a certain amount of industrial activity, which in turn implies that it might not be as safe as your average grassy area. So, I was arguing in favour of tagging the larger block of land as industrial. nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, Maritime Safety Queensland or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New tool in Potlatch 2 for areas that share a way
For some purposes the 'landuse=industrial' information will be more important, for other 'surface=grass'. These are different kinds of information. Risk assessment and hazards are also relevant. The grassy area next to a steel mill might not be plain old grass, who knows what has been stored there and what kind of hazards, from chemicals to rusty nails are left behind? nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, Maritime Safety Queensland or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Is there an Android OS app for osm?
Is there an Android OS app for osm? nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, Maritime Safety Queensland or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [talk-au] cc-by not compatible with ODBL ?
Bureaucrats have their own agendas and are most unlikely to want to share property GIS knowledge is power, undiluted and building up your own GIS threatens many systems. I'm a bureaucrat, and whilst I can't speak for all bureaucrats, I'm keen to release data under a CC license simply to reduce my workload. Nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, Maritime Safety Queensland or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] Software goes on, brain goes off...
Another article on the same topic, http://searchengineland.com/woman-follows-google-maps-walking-directions-gets-hit-sues-43212 Kind Regards, Nicholas Lawrence Geographic Information Systems Coordinator | Geospatial Technologies Engineering Technology / Design, Environment Stewardship Division | Department of Transport and Main Roads Floor 6 | Spring Hill Office Complex | 477 Boundary Street | Spring Hill Qld 4000 GPO Box 1412 | Brisbane Qld 4001 P: (07) 38342477 | F: (07) 38342998 E: nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au W: www.tmr.qld.gov.au Tomorrow's Queensland: strong, green, smart, healthy and fair – www.towardQ2.qld.gov.au P| Please consider the environment before printing this email *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, Maritime Safety Queensland or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] US to spend $8bn upgrading GPS constellation
The United States is about to give the now nearly ubiquitous Global Positioning System an $8 billion overhaul. The improvements, which involve replacing each of the 24 aging GPS satellites, are estimated to take over a decade to complete, and will see the triangulation margin of error decrease from 20 feet to around 3 feet. The move comes as more and more devices, from phones to parking meters, are incorporating GPS units into their design. Why would a parking meter need a GPS? It doesn't move around. A surveyor could tell you its location to centimetre accuracy and that would be all you need. Nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, Maritime Safety Queensland or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[talk-au] Presentation in Brisbane
Hello Australian OSM, The Surveying and Spatial Sciences Institute and the Australian Computer Society have a joint group, the Spatial Information Technology Special Interest Group (SITSIG) which hosts a small event every few months in Brisbane. We were hoping to do a presentation on Open Street Map, with reference to either the local area of Brisbane, or the efforts in Haiti. Is there anyone in Brisbane that might be interested in standing up and giving a presentation? Kind Regards, Nicholas Lawrence Geographic Information Systems Coordinator | Geospatial Technologies Engineering Technology / Design, Environment Stewardship Division | Department of Transport and Main Roads Floor 6 | Spring Hill Office Complex | 477 Boundary Street | Spring Hill Qld 4000 GPO Box 1412 | Brisbane Qld 4001 P: (07) 38342477 | F: (07) 38342998 E: nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au W: www.tmr.qld.gov.au P| Please consider the environment before printing this email *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, Maritime Safety Queensland or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Presentation in Brisbane
On 22 March 2010 14:54, nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au wrote: Is there anyone in Brisbane that might be interested in standing up and giving a presentation? When and where is this going to take place? Have not chosen an exact date, it might be an evening session, or scheduled for around lunch-time. The venue would be the ACS offices, which is located in the city centre, near central railway station. They have a room which seats about 40 people, with AV equipment. Would non-speakers be welcome also? The plan is that entry would be free and anyone interested would be welcome. Regards, Nick Lawrence *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, Maritime Safety Queensland or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!
.. I'm still unclear how one is supposed to distinguish between a smooth, wide urban footpath and a hiking trail. A footpath can be traversed by a weelchair, perambulator or shopping trolley? Regards, Nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, Maritime Safety Queensland or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] putting Q150 survey marks on osm
Hello Mappers, It is Queensland's (Australia) 150th birthday, and to celebrate, the Surveying and Spatial Sciences Institute (SSSI) organised the placement of a number of commemorative permanent marks around the state. http://sssiq150.org/About-SSSI-Q150-Project.aspx These marks are part tourist attraction, part survey control. Most are located where a car with an in-built GPS can drive right up to it, so the driver can check the accuracy of their GPS signal. I would like to enter these into openstreetmap, as nodes, but I don't know what tag to use. I was thinking; name=Q150 man_made=survey_point website=sssiq150.org Any comments? Regards, Nick Lawrence *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, Maritime Safety Queensland or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[talk-au] putting Q150 survey marks on osm
Hello Mappers, It is Queensland's (Australia) 150th birthday, and to celebrate, the Surveying and Spatial Sciences Institute (SSSI) organised the placement of a number of commemorative permanent marks around the state. http://sssiq150.org/About-SSSI-Q150-Project.aspx These marks are part tourist attraction, part survey control. Most are located where a car with an in-built GPS can drive right up to it, so the driver can check the accuracy of their GPS signal. I would like to enter these into openstreetmap, as nodes, but I don't know what tag to use. I was thinking; name=Q150 man_made=survey_point website=sssiq150.org Any comments? Regards, Nick Lawrence *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, Maritime Safety Queensland or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Photographers face wider anti terror curbs news
http://www.amateurphotographer.co. uk/news/Photographers_face_wider_anti_terror_curbs_news_281398.html From a UK site, where they are reporting on training civilians to keep a watch on 'hostile reconnaissance'. This urges people to look out for 'overt/covert photography' as well as those in possession of 'photographs, maps, global positioning systems, photographic equipment, (cameras, zoom lenses, camcorders)'. These days, do not all mobile phones count as 'covert photography'? nick *** WARNING: This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this e-mail without appropriate authority. If this e-mail was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or e-mail me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this e-mail and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this e-mail is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this e-mail does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this e-mail do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Queensland Department of Main Roads, Queensland Transport or Maritime Safety Queensland, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [OSM-talk] Aerial Photographs (was: People's Map)
RC airplanes aren't cheaper for two reasons: 1. RC airplanes (and any civilian-operated UAV) has significant flight restrictions - distance and altitude. Flying at low altitude (under 500 feet MSL), you end up with a higher spatial resolution but you have to stitch together many more images to cover the same extent as a single image taken from an aircraft flying at, say, 2000 feet MSL. Selecting good shots and correcting the imagery for hundreds of images ends up costing more than the difference in operating an RC plane and a regular aircraft. Re: stitching together many images. Is not this a software and automation issue? In the future, can we expect this process to become completely automated and therefore cheap? nick *** WARNING: This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this e-mail without appropriate authority. If this e-mail was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or e-mail me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this e-mail and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this e-mail is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this e-mail does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this e-mail do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Queensland Department of Main Roads, Queensland Transport or Maritime Safety Queensland, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM license change: A license to kill? - How to make a nightmare come true!
How about the option of contributors transferring their copyright to OSM (the legal entity) which can then choose to release the data under an appropriate license? This is not a good idea because the OSMF can be bought out quite easily by a big company. I don't understand. Bought out how? nick *** WARNING: This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this e-mail without appropriate authority. If this e-mail was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or e-mail me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this e-mail and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this e-mail is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this e-mail does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this e-mail do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Queensland Department of Main Roads, Queensland Transport or Maritime Safety Queensland, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Parking aisle as boundary of car park not showing
My main problem with mapping areas to the centre line (I'm not really counting landuse here, its possibly an exception) is the farcical situations to which it leads. The buildings example is the best: it's not uncommon at all to have a road abutted on both sides by buildings. If we map them to the centreline then we possibly increase their size by 50%, and happily record that they share a wall. Obviously they don't, and if you somehow figure out there's also a road in there, you might be able to reconstruct the real situation given a road width (which very few people actually record). One option may be to differentiate between; - a road, represented by a line and - a corridor, represented by an area. The corridor would be that area of land over which the relevant road authority has responsibility and control. Ie the road authority is in charge of not only the bitumen, but also the grass verge, drains, signs, flower stalls, etc... The road would exist inside the corridor, in fact multiple roads can exist inside a single corridor (think of complex intersections). Or a corridor could have no roads at all (think of a road that is planned, but not yet constructed). The road line would still be used for routing, but the road corridor would be used to define that area which is exclusively road, and which neighbouring features butt up against. But now we are talking about a cadastre map, not a street map. nick *** WARNING: This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this e-mail without appropriate authority. If this e-mail was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or e-mail me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this e-mail and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this e-mail is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this e-mail does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this e-mail do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Queensland Department of Main Roads, Queensland Transport or Maritime Safety Queensland, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] NoName
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