Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Question about the license for the software that uses data derived from OSM's database

2008-11-11 Thread Hugh Hulme
Just a quick thank you to Jochen  Iván for the great responses to my
question :) I am now enlightened.
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[OSM-legal-talk] Question about the license for the software that uses data derived from OSM's database

2008-11-10 Thread Hugh Hulme
Hey guys, I've got some questions...

Let's say I've taken the OSM data and turned it - using software I've
written - into Shapefiles so that I can pass that through another piece of
software to create data for my (commercial) application to use.

The Shapefiles then inherit the same CC-BY-SA license, but do I have to
distribute them and/or make them available? Is it sufficient to inform my
customers that they may have the data under that license if they want it? Do
I even need to do that? The data at this point is only used within my
organisation. What about the data generated (Voronoid cells, junction map)
from the Shapefiles which is specifically formatted for the code I've
written to take advantage of that data? It's in the SQL Server database that
each customer has, so presumably I need to put a note somewhere to say
they're free to use it if they want to - but do I have to make it available
online somewhere? Presumably the code which reads from the database is
exempt because it's not part of the data - and the data, being in a SQL
Server database, is not an integral part of the software. (Indeed, the
software is perfectly capable of running without that data, or any data at
all.)

Thanks,
  - Hugh
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Question about the license for the software that uses data derived from OSM's database

2008-11-10 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Lunes, 10 de Noviembre de 2008, Hugh Hulme escribió:
 Let's say I've taken the OSM data and turned it [...] into Shapefiles [...] 
 to create data for my (commercial) application to use. 

 The Shapefiles then inherit the same CC-BY-SA license, but do I have to
 distribute them and/or make them available?

No. Distribution of the shapefiles is up to you. However, **if** you 
distribute the shapefiles, you have to do so according to the CC-by-sa 
license.

 Is it sufficient to inform my customers that they may have the data under 
 that license if they want it? Do I even need to do that?

If you are distributing the data to your clients, then the answer is yes.


 I need to put a note somewhere to say they're free to use it if they want 
 to

... yes ...

 - but do I have to make it available online somewhere? 

No. The CC-by-sa license tells you *how* you must redistribute things, **if** 
you choose to redistribute them.

You are not required to forcefully redistribute stuff.


The details about how the upcoming ODbL license will stand up against these 
use case are still not clear. Expect the same general stuff: you should not 
be forcefully made to publish anything, but if you use data from a 
ODbL-covered DB, you have to allow access to the derivative DB.


Cheers,
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